F-150 Lightning 1 Year Review: The Good, Bad, & Ugly

[@davidgiles9751]

"A different tool and a different fuel for a different kind of job" - AWESOME! I wish I would have come up with that, and I'm definitely using it.

[@boeing900]

What exactly is/was the "different kind of job"? If he said it I missed it. And I missed it because by two minutes into this video it became very obvious to me this is no "honest review," it's a sales pitch. That's when I stopped watching.

[@ChrisJayBee]

What an honest appraisal of this car - I for one cannot understand all the hate for EVs they are just cars powered in a different way. They offer some awesome benefits but they also have their drawbacks. Let’s stop politicising the issue - if it does the job better then buy it after you try it. If not then don’t- it’s as simple as that - keep up the good work 👍

[@KurtsRPMGarage]

Great update Mitchell. I work in construction and am rocking a lightning pro. Some of the other guys think I’m crazy but I absolutely love it. Gas just crested 5$ per gallons around here and with my solar set up I couldn’t care less.

[@htown148]

With the new subsidies you get 30% off solar

[@JonathanStewartMusic]

How often are you using it to plug in equipment? I’m considering it so I can get power out in corners of our farm without generators etc.

[@KurtsRPMGarage]

@JonathanStewartMusic That is actually one feature I am not really taking advantage of at the moment. Most of my current small tools are battery powered (Dewalt 20v) and my larger tools are gas powered. That will probably change in the future now that I have the lightning's power available to me but for now I'll use my current tools until they burn out.

[@816928]

And when the batteries need replacing?

[@quazaar]

I set up a solar system for mine as well. I haven't paid anything to get around for 4 months now. I won a local truck drag on dirt that almost paid for the electricity before the solar lol. I the same spec truck as this.. color and everything. 1 year and 9.6k miles. It's an amazing vehicle, especially for local driving

[@chriseberle8363]

Own a Lightning with a standard battery Lariat just drove from Central Oregon to Los Angeles and back and love it. It is a road trip warrior but even better around town. Thanks for spreading the word about this vehicle.

[@tywebb9879]

I guess I shouldn't comment while the video is playing, but now that it is finished you are spot on regarding costs of energy. I am spending about 42% of what I spent on my previous Audi SQ5 which got really good mileage. I only pay 12.6 cents in Central Indiana for my electricity so i am very pleased. I also bought the Ford Maintenance Package from Flood Ford and with 8 years, 100k mileage it cost a little over $800 dollars just as you explained in your oil change example. It is not for everyone, but great around town as you state, when we pull our 5th Wheel we use my F450 which is built for such tasks.

[@camaro02dk]

Nothing beat an ESP. good choice.

[@petemiller519]

Bro, I bet you're one hell of a salesman. My Tesla Model Y costs me 2 cents/km when charging at home. That is 1/8 th the price compared to my Ford Escape, which costs me 17 cents/km on fuel. I am keeping the Escape for the snow, cause everybody needs a rust bucket. Cheers from Canada.

[@Crakmonkey691]

I had a Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins. That when diesel is $3.90 a gallon I was paying about $12,000 in fuel a year right now I would be paying closer to 20000 a year in fuel costs my Tesla saves me a lot of money add no mechanics mechanics

[@ekaddo]

Got my '22 Lariat in January of this year. About 12,500 miles in to the truck and it's my 7th F150. Really love the truck, and great points covered in this video. Keep up the good content.

[@liamfirebird6922]

Impressive numbers Mitchell. When the lightning pro debuted for $39,995 I was very excited for the truck. (Not that you could actually get one at that price). The thing that turned me off was the fact that when the govt announced the $7,500 tax credit on these trucks Ford jacked up the price so high it completely negated the tax credit benefit for the consumer. I will stick with gas until it's no longer an option. Ford doesn't care about their customers, but I think that's true of all corporations these days.

[@PianoBoy99]

Have corporations ever done anything where they care about their customers more than shareholders? Ford raised the prices because they had significant demand (you know. That free market thing), and because the costs of producing it rose significant throughout the pandemic. As more production flows and the initial demand wave subsides, I guarantee you that they will lower the prices. Don't "not buy" something because a company raises the prices. You need to "not buy" it because the price/value isn't there anymore. If you would buy an electric car at 40k with a 7.5k rebate, would you buy it at 50k? 60k? Are you buying your gas truck for 32k? (or less if you factor in fuel costs).? Sticking with "gas until it is no longer an option" sounds like a political statement, not a consumer one. That's your choice of course, but don't pretend it isn't anything other than that.

[@liamfirebird6922]

@PianoBoy99 my current gas truck I paid $32,498 for. I bought it new. 2wd (I don't get that much snow where I live) and it does great. Also no I won't spend 50k on any vehicle electric, gas or otherwise.

[@PianoBoy99]

@@liamfirebird6922 Then that is good. You are waiting for the low-cost trucks to come on the market. Which will happen after the higher end is saturated first. No problem. Or perhaps when the used market kicks up. And that 60k lightening with 70k miles goes for 25k in the used market. That will happen eventually as well. The market just isn't where you need it to be yet. That's not a problem. I just hope it plays out the way you want it to. One thing I'm worried about is that between covid and electric vehicle transition auto makers will no longer make low-cost vehicles. They will just refuse to do it. In which case consumers like you will be in the lurch. That won't be fair, and I hope it doesn't happen.

[@liamfirebird6922]

@PianoBoy99 I hope so. Charging would be much cheaper than gas! I really was psyched for the Lightning. I'm an admin worker in a factory so I get the costs going up. But Ford literally announced their price increase the same week the tax credit hit. That just rubbed me the wrong way I guess.

[@scottyellis3442]

You're right, no corporation cares for their customers or employees these days, all they care about is profit.

[@ssmith2526]

“I drive it like it stole it” 😂 Great, engaging, informative video! Thanks

[@VishnuKamath]

This is going on the back of my Car.

[@AndySadler]

Excellent video. I have had my XLT Lightning since last year. 2 weeks after I got it, I took my daughter to college in Florida (from Michigan), so the cross-country thing done right away. Even the infrastructure has really improved since then, but looking forward to the Tesla network in 2024. Most of my charging is at home with my Ford Charging Station Pro that DTE helped me get hooked up. I really cannot tell if there is an increase in my electric bill. Feels like the charging cost is a wash, especially with the time-of-day plan they have me on now. I have the extended range battery and can see that I should get over 300 miles on a charge, but simply not reasonable. One thing I like that GM has done is give the expected range with something reasonable like 2.1 mi/kWh rather than expecting folks to drive so slowly (they estimated this on their Silverado EV). If you drive 500 miles of some city and some highway, you could come out to 2.0 or 2.1, but no way you're getting much better if you drive it like you stole it. I hope a standard is set like that and future vehicles get measured against it, instead of promising massive range, etc. I got the tax credit on mine last year, but that being said, comparing the loan remaining for me and the value of the truck on KBB, I am upside down a little on the loan to value after a year and a month. I don't have Blue Cruise, but I wish I did. Looks like you're enjoying it. The acceleration of the Lightning is my favorite thing. It's a rocket. I love it.

[@CompTechMike]

This is a great video and very informative. As a Rivian owner, I really like the extra outlets in the frunk and the fold-flat work surface. However the thumbnail and the "am I gonna sell it blah blah" are click-baitey and trite. A shame to turn away viewers so early in an otherwise informative video. Edit: on a personal note, where I live electricity is .05 cents per kWh. So I pay around $60/mo. to charge. Prior to that I was paying $200-$300 or more per month for gas. It's a huge savings, but most importantly being able to charge at home means less time driving to gas stations, waiting in line and pumping gas, which ultimately means being able to spend more time at home with my family. That is the ultimate value of an EV to me. 🙂

[@matthewputnam7486]

.05 per kWh?! that includes taxes, fees and everything?! That is 1/3 of my cost. That's almost free. What area do you live in?

[@CompTechMike]

@@matthewputnam7486 Northern Virginia. We have a really good electric co-op (NOVEC) which gets a lot of their power from biomass and other renewable sources (they even reclaim methane from the local dump to provide power). We signed up for their special EV rate which is .05 cents off-peak, .11 cents during peak hours. We charge our EV at night as well as schedule most major appliances, including running the AC at night (for sleeping). Keeps our electric bill low. 😊

[@Oilcruzer]

Fuel savings become $15,000 in 5 years in your case. Then you need compare charging set up, purchase pricing, and resale value in five years against an ICE F150. It’s not more affordable. It’s a lifestyle choice. Full disclosure: I am all in on this or the Silverado or the CyberTruck but I don’t sell snake oil. It’s more costly.

[@davidkelln9225]

@@Oilcruzer I agree with you. Also, EV owners saying they save all this time not pumping gas is a bit overblown. it isn't like it takes no time at all to plug and unplug your truck.

[@Trashed20659]

You will reap more benefits as well. Not having to schedule repairs and oil changes, flushes, spark plugs and wires, belts, brakes that last what seems like forever, having to go back in for badly done repairs, it can go on forever. You will get so used to not having those hassles, you won't ever want to go back.

[@Sluggo67]

Had the opportunity to take a lightning for a test this drive this past summer and absolutely loved it. No more ICE vehicles for this guy. Presently drive a Ranger, waiting for Ford to come with a smaller EV truck.😎

[@isaac198428]

I love the disclaimer at the ending. Yes! People are politicizing electric vehicle ownership instead of simply saying it’s not their cup of tea or inconvenient for their lifestyles. Personally, I cannot buy one because of range anxiety living in an apartment complex and don’t have free charging at work. Same for most people. But I understand how it works perfectly in your case since you can charge at your job all day long. It would be stupid for anyone to dismiss any new technology instead of embracing it like mobile phones, computers, drones, smart TVs, gas combustion vehicles and even airplanes were all once considered new technology but look at where we are now.

[@quazaar]

I have had the exact same spec as you for a year. I have 9.6k on it now. I keep an eye on it like a hawk. I drive conservative but you don't have to do much to be gone fast. Around town (25-45mph), 50+F, i see about 4.1-4.4 kwh averages. Winter i was at 2.4-2.7. Highway (55-65) summer 2.4, winter 2.0. Interstate (75) summer 2.0 winter 1.7. Absolute worst case we Christmas. 0 degrees, not able to preheat and it was windy on interstate and rock roads, i had able 180 miles of range out of 320.

[@andyfeimsternfei8408]

Makes you miss all that waste heat from an inefficient gas engine burning hundreds of dollars of gas from halfway around the world.

[@boeing900]

Where do you live, Europe? Oh wait, biden is "president." Yeah, it's very possible the oil, that was refined into gasoline, came from halfway around the world. Iran and Venezuela to be spacific. Yup, that's VERY possible, for sure.@@andyfeimsternfei8408

[@sharonb.9128]

Great video. You were one of the first reviewers I watched on this vehicle. You were AMAZED by its speed. You’re such a smart man! Instead of being influenced by ignorant people who hate EV’s you learned why EV’s are useful for you and your needs and when it is not. You clearly enjoyed skipping the $120 fill ups and 3000 mile oil changes and recognize if you don’t tow far this is a powerful, smooth workhorse. Thank you for your due diligence and understanding what this vehicle can and cannot do like any other truck you buy.

[@Superhunan]

Everybody knows a truck owners main concern is 0-60 time !

[@raemill4089]

This was a great video. I've been driving electric Taycan for about 3 years ago and been saying some of the same things. It may not be for everybody, but for me it's been amazing. I encourage folks just to try it for yourselves. Dont be so close minded, like listening to someone else tell you a food is nasty or good, you got to try it for yourself and for your tastes, you will find out. EVs are not for everyone's lifestyle right now and that's ok. You may drive one and hate it and that's ok too. You may tho drive one and say hey, this is kinda nice. I've got almost 50k in miles and trips from Huntsville to Orlando, New Orleans, Charlotte and lots in between as well as my daily driver. It works magnificently for me. Has it been perfect? No, but nothing that would make me switch back. Great job on this video!

[@mariomarez2223]

I’m rolling with same Lariat, except with a Four Wheel Camper Raven on it, with Recon Grapplers. Camp off road only and haven’t run out of Juice in the Eastern Sierras yet. 1.7 with that setup

[@robertdavenport7802]

That is excellent and useful data.

[@BlueCollarEV]

My year will be next month and I should have 36k miles by then. I would like to get the drive unit fluid changed and sent off for testing, can one of your locations handle that? My luck with local dealerships has been bad. My lightbar was full of water and shorting out the lights 3 months in and my dealership said that was normal, I had to go through 2 more to find one to replace it under warranty. I still love the truck.

[@colleenkadiyala406]

Thanks for posting this. My hubby and I need a new car and we want an EV but we need space for 3 kids. He is not a mini van guy. I think this is the car we need.

[@RobStevens64]

Thanks for the update, Mitchell! We love our Mach-E. I'm not a truck guy, but if we had room in our garage for it, I'd totally get the Lightning for its utility. I don't have toys to haul, so the towing drawbacks don't bother me.

[@davewilson8308]

We just bought the Mack E and love it. I also have the Powerboost only because we pull a camper and didn’t want the hassle of charging every 125 miles when pulling our camper.

[@keithcooke5066]

Nice balanced review. Too many people looking at it like its junk because it can't do everything perfect. It likely works great for the majority of truck users. If you can charge at home, don't tow really heavy stuff a long way, and don't do a tonne of long distance travel, this vehicle is amazing. And even the 'long distance' is fine if you're not in a hurry .

[@patrickcucco3449]

Spot on review!! I have my lighting pro sr for 1 year and 14,000 miles. Was gonna flip it but it’s so nice to drive I can’t let it go.

[@kld70]

Maybe you’ll be able to part with it in 8 years when the battery replacement cost makes you weep. If you try to sell it right before that replacement, you’ll get significantly les than “blue-book” value because any informed buyer of used vehicles factors “planned maintenance” into their offers and dealership won’t be touching them unless you buy an overpriced new one. Good luck.

[@Craigi123]

Nice review. It does summarize the most important factor for any vehicle purchase; use case. For the average person, their use case make these lightnings a great option for a lot of people but they listen to people who have never used one or who have a vastly different use case.

[@mikldude9376]

Fair to say , but it remains to be seen how these things will pan out as the years roll on , the range is only fair when the vehicle is brand new , how much will the range diminish in say 4 or 5 years , or 10 or 12: years , and if the range does get too bad , how much is that gigantic battery going to cost to replace ? And as we see these units , they are either very new or not old , and I don’t see any accessories on them like roll bars , driving lights , a winch , big chunky rims and tyres , etc. All these things where very common on conventional pick ups , how is the range going to when people stop using them like precious toys.

[@rodneylw10]

I really like the Lightning. I ended up with a 2022 Platinum Hybrid. I tow a camper so it seemed a better choice for my needs. I have been highly impressed with it too. I got 25.2 and then 25.4 mpg in a town driving around in the Helen Georgia area this summer- not towing of course. Towing I get about the same as my previous F150- 12mpg. (PS. These mpg figures are not from the truck computer but at the pump figures).

[@igorpiedade]

That's exacly my point. I'm driving EV cars for more than a yard ( Kia Niro EV and Tesla Model 3) and dude, I love it. It's not about saying the planet, it's not about saving money: It's all about convenience. I have the FPL Charver witch I pay $30/m and I can charger both cars as mutch I want and it's SO nice to get home, plug the car relax, enjoy family and next morning the car is ready to rock for another 300 miles. It's life changer. My next car gonna be a EV truck and F150 Lightning is on my radar. I'm and IT guy. I have no towing needs carry have stuff all the time, but I want the praticality of a Full Size truck when I need it and that's at least 50% of the truck market-share. In-town people that don't work with it, but whant a big, confort and pratical car to comute and pickup stuff that Cosco and The Home Depot.

[@mrcobbynot]

Its so weird that people that bash EVs never owned or driven one and people that owned one will never go back to Ice. I have driven the Lighting and its a sweet ride. I'm waiting 2 more years to buy because the charging infrastructure sucks for long distance road tripping but will fast improve over the next 24 months. I would charge mine mostly at home but don't want the charging anxiety issues going out of town. I'm sure when cars replaced horses people had similar complaints. I can feed my horse anywhere and those cars are BS because they cant pull a plow in a muddy field and try finding fuel. I will stick to grass fed transportation like God intended. LOL

[@pstoneking3418]

Even once they get enough chargers the cost is too high for me. I only charge at home and wouldn't have purchased it if I had to depend on public chargers.

[@mrcobbynot]

@@pstoneking3418 most charging is done at home. Most people put gas in there cars less than 5 miles from the house. Same thing really. Out of town super chargers cost the same or less than gas but not more than gas. The maintenance costs savings are a no brainer on EVs. No belts , oil changes , tune ups spark plugs , and many moving parts to go wrong.

[@la5150hi-lophoto]

I never quite understood why people in the south equate electric vehicles with being liberal...I laugh at those people shelling out money at the gas pumps and maintenance repair every day I've owned my EV. What's great is I never compete for charging spots in Alabama...but you travel to places like Florida or Atlanta...you see how popular they are because gas/diesel prices are much higher. But you're right...if you don't do a whole lot of city driving and/or don't have a home charger, this may not be for everyone.

[@Omnis2]

It's funny that "Kilowatts" is actually fewer syllables and easier to say than "kW," it's abbreviation. This is a fantastic video. Thanks for sharing.

[@valmiles]

Great video! We reluctantly bought an EV in 2021. Since then, drove about 25k mi in it and have been spending about $25/mo for charging. Not counting occasional DC fast charging. We pay $0.05sumner or $0.03 winter off peak per KW. Really cheap.

[@موسى_7]

What forced you to buy an EV? You were reluctant.

[@valmiles]

@@موسى_7 Desire to save some dough and also have fun driving it. It did deliver on both counts, I'm not going to lie...

[@uclamutt118]

Where do you live with electricity rates that cheap!?

[@valmiles]

@@uclamutt118 I was a bit off, only quoted generation cost. There are other fees the utility adds. So, it is closer to 7 cents winter and 10 cents summer when you add it all up. Arizona, APS, time advantage plan max. Most power here comes from the Palo Verde nuclear power plant.

[@AWDRIFTO]

Great video.. Awesome information. Too many people are trying to politicise everything. EVs are great under the right circumstances which 90+% of the population fall into.

[@buixote]

I don't see anything about V2H... the base battery on this thing is 7.5x Powerwall... that's almost the price of the Truck. Yes, it'll cost you a few more grand for the hardware to connect the Truck to the House, but if you're looking for battery backup, I think this is one of the best solutions. The rest is gravy.

[@quazaar]

Exactly why I put the $down when they announced it. I can't justify just spending a lot on just a car, but this is my back up generator, my mobile power back (powered my camper after towing it). And it's so much cheaper to operate.

[@foxlake6750]

A friend has a Lightning Lariat 1. Towing is a killer, less than half the range towing a 3,500 lb. boat/trailer. 2. The charging infrastructure is terrible, broken units and less than available charging speeds. It’s not so much range anxiety, it’s remote charging anxiety.

[@miguelzambrano2260]

Ford has now partnered with Tesla for supercharging

[@RichardYoungCF]

Greta video and review! I have a Mach E Premium XR now - love it - but I have also wanted the F150 Lightning - I just can't justify the huge $$ for it.

[@jeff96762]

I love the honesty, that this EV truck is not for everyone! And that it has drawbacks and benefits. I agree and have one on order. I understand the pros and cons. Good to go....thanks!!!!!

[@Show-me-how-now]

Wow $1200 for the entire year for charging cost is darn impressive. Even though my electric utility says $0.08/kw, my EV charging costs are technically $0.14/KW after I add the distribution fees and sales tax. To fill up an F150 in Ottawa Canada today is about $195 to $200. It’s $1.75/litre, and the big tank is 136 litres (36 US gallons). Assuming a 110 L fill up, it’s about $192 to fill it up. Thanks for making this video. My question is what kind of efficiency can a normal person get driving 120 km/h (70 mph)?

[@kadebishop6580]

I have seen plenty of other folks average 2.4 mi/kwh

[@pstoneking3418]

That still depends on your stop and go driving habits and the model. My platinum being heavier usually averages 2 mpk driving mostly 55 mph roads with a little 70 mph and a little stop & go city driving. I have gotten 2.4 mpk when driving a little slower than the speed limits. To be honest public chargers are very expensive. I believe the cheapest cost is around $.32/kwh and normally closer to $.43/kwh. I do believe even with the extended range battery a lariat or xlt will get better range than my platinum does. I only charge at home and only drive locally. Towing can nearly cut my range in half, but that also was the case with my gas F150. People just don't seem to pay much attention to that. We never get something for nothing, those that say differently about Towing anything are not telling the truth. Hauling, range isn't affected quit so much. I love my lightning but isn't a truck for long distance traveling or towing because you must depend on public chargers.

[@Show-me-how-now]

@@pstoneking3418 thanks for sharing. My Dad’s f150 ecoboost goes from 11 L/100 km, to 25 L/100 km while towing is very large 32 ft 5th wheeler trailer

[@Show-me-how-now]

@@kadebishop6580 Thank you for the information . 😀

[@mikestevenson2458]

I have a 22 Lariet Lightning. At 70mph, I get 340km in the summer and 220km in the winter with a standard range battery.

[@mattie3595]

Be interesting to see what the trade in/resale value will be down the road.

[@mikldude9376]

Indeed , especially if the battery gets tired , you could always buy one cheap and convert it to gas 😜.

[@justinwinslow310]

@effyourself3925 there is a video out there of a guy bought this same truck a 22 lightening and owned it for a year and a half. Carmax offered him 44,000 the ford dealership offered him 40,000.

[@tig50]

Finally a dealer that will tell you it looks like a truck but it's just a commuter vehicle at best/truth it's not a real truck it's a guy who wants to look like a man but really isn't kind of truck

[@HadrianSilver]

I am 20 seconds in and can already tell this video is going to be gold. Will report back when I have watched the whole thing!

[@HadrianSilver]

Bro, I am 6'3 too! haha

[@HadrianSilver]

Phone as a key... I am already sold. People walk around with a ridge wallet like they are "minimalist", I carry loose cards... That is what that jean pocket is used for BTW

[@ellitapearce273]

I really like hearing about this truck. I have been happy with my current EV, and have been sniffing around the idea of adding a truck to my 'fleet'.

[@carfreakbowen5113]

I'd like to say you did an excellent job at describing you experience with this truck . Thank you !

[@AbuPaul]

What I like most about EVs is what I call "Aren't you people tired of gas prices, oil changes, coolant leaks, and transmission failures?" Great video, sir! You earned a new subscriber. I am still too hesitant to get me an EV because of their high prices and my full-time job working from home - I just can't justify an EV cost at this time, and will keep my old Explorer for now.

[@NitzanaMamane]

It sounds to me like you're a perfect candidate for an EV. Working from home means you won't need to charge as often. I just leased a Hyundai Ioniq 5 and Hyundai offers free fast charging for the first 30 minutes with the Electrify America network. Considering it takes about 36 minutes to completely fast charge, that's not bad savings.

[@zoobrizz]

The cost and depreciation and Anxiety aren’t worth it.

[@renaissanceman5847]

the fact is that an ICE 5 year old Ford Explorer with 150,000 miles ( ford exploded) has a higher resale value than a 5 year old EV with 150,000 miles is all you need to know about the scam EVs are

[@wikn8r275]

That frunk is incredible!

[@FrankBlissett]

I've talked to folks who say "but you can get a new gas powered F-150 for $30k!" ... if you get a 2-wheel drive, regular cab. Comparing the Lightning with other F-150s that have 4-wheel drive, crew-cab and with similar features shows that they are comparably priced.

[@xsterawesome]

When I got mine, (extended range max tow Lariat lightning) it was 4k more expensive than the gas equivalent without the on board power or trunk. I made that up on the tax break.

[@carlosmohedano]

Ha. Exactly my point. I don't really need a pick up since i don't tow or put anything on the bed and the gas consumption is crazy, but with this being electric I may actually consider it because i like the idea of a big cabin for my 2 kids. The frunk seems quite large as well. Perfect for daily things like backpacks or groceries.

[@pstoneking3418]

I have a platinum and normally average 2 mpk in warmer weather. That not as good as I hoped for but I only charge at home and pay $.12/kwh in the summer and $.08/kwh in the winter but achieve a little less than 2 mpk. An all year average of about $6/100 miles. Depending on gas prices that's still not bad mileage. If I had to use public chargers at around $.43/kwh that would equate closer to $21.50/100 miles not great regardless of gas prices. $10.75 to drive 50 miles. Gas would have to cost $5.38/gal to just get 25 mpge. Consequently, I wouldn't have purchased my lightning if I had to use public chargers. The only plus would've been little to no maintenance. So bottom line. If you only drive locally and only charge at home this is a great vehicle. Someone who lives in town and only drives in town it would be even better anywhere from 3-5 mpk.

[@kld70]

Is little to no maintenance really the reality? Seems to me, you are saving your maintenance costs to pay them, times 3, when you replace that battery at the 8 year mark to the tune of $25,000…….,if you’re lucky enough to be able to find a replacement. In my opinion, the cost of battery replacement alone dissolves any savings on gas and maintenance. Instead of paying use and upkeep charges incrementally, like occurs with gas fill up and oil changes/maintenance, you pay them all at once when the battery reaches its end of life. In other words, the monetary savings are illusionary. Consider this: the dealer offers a gas-powered vehicle at a 30% markup but offers to pay for gas use (reasonable average) and cover all maintenance for the first 8 years (a warranty) BUT you MUST pay to have a new engine put in at that time with NO GUARNTEE as to the marked-up cost of that engine OR IF YOU WOULD EVEN BE ABLE TO FIND A REPLACEMENT ENGINE AT THAT TIME. If they want to sell these, they need to sell a replacement battery warranty plan, that guarantees you only have to pay a certain amount to replace your battery within a certain time frame. Then the consumer could make a wise, informed decision. With gasoline-powered vehicles, owners know that if they perform good maintenance on the vehicle, they can prevent most costly repairs. Unfortunately , there is no way to keep the battery from reaching its end of life. It’s a chemical component in a sealed container. There is nothing the owner can do to prevent that costly repair. In fact, normal use in cold climates will hasten end of battery life. Lithium does not like cold temperatures. Even if it’s garage-kept, there’s still times in the winter that you’re going to need to use your vehicle for commuting. And then it’s sitting in your employer’s parking lot for over eight hours. Nothing you can do about that. Lastly, I’ll add this real life antidote. I went out four summers ago and bought an electric lawnmower. I bought the top-of-the-line brand for $650, at about $200 MORE than the comparable gas-powered model. It worked fantastic for the first two seasons. By the third season, it would only hold a charge of about 40%. This last season, it wouldn’t even last 5 minutes. Meaning, at first I could mow my entire lawn in one hour on one charge. By the third season, I could only mow about 20 minutes at a time (a third of my half acre) and then I’d have to charge the battery for about an hour to an hour and a half. Not convenient. BY this season, the fourth one, the battery would only last about 5 minutes. Two swipes and done. Totally unusable. So I was forced to buy a new battery and bought at the lowest price I could find….$399. When I bought my mower, replacement batteries were selling for $149. How much was my same model mower WITH the new battery selling for? $599. Yep. Less than I paid for it four years ago, despite the inflated price on the BATTERY……Because they know they’re going to get you on the sale price of the future batteries. Or you throw out the entire mower and buy a new one. And yes, I did everything the manual said to preserve my batteries’ life expectancy. The charger was placed in my climate-controlled dining room (not particularly attractive but where I had a open outlet to keep it plugged in and also under cool conditions) and both charger and battery were stored off-season in a cabinet in that room. In other words, the only time my battery was subjected to anything but a 70% degrees ambient temperature was while actually mowing the lawn. And yet it barely lasted 4 years. If I add my initial purchase cost of $650 to the battery replacement cost of $399, I can expected to get 8 years use for just over $1000. My old Craftsman (approximately $300) gas mower lasted 15 years with routine maintenance and about 6 gallons of gas per season. So the savings to change to electric, if any, were minimal. The only viable reasons to go electric-powered anything is pollution reduction and ease of use. Financial, it’s a wash or small loss. If they truly want it the electrical conversion of power in this country to be readily accepted by the consumer and therefore a success, the government could step in and require these manufacturers to guarantee battery replacements at a cost relative to what they were when the consumer purchased the product. Gas prices fluctuate, but not more than double in a four year period. Consumers want dependability and stability in the products they purchase. Provide that, then adoption of electrical vehicles will be much slower.

[@kld70]

Correction: **Fail to provide that, and the adoption of electric vehicles will be much slower.

[@CrisMertens]

I appreciate the video but it’s an odd choice to have a big thumbs down in the thumbnail and then have only glowing things to say in the review 🤔 Regardless, thanks for the detailed breakdowns - especially for the charging costs vs fuel!

[@milesj6064]

That is a good review of the truck, I have always liked the truck because it looks like my regular F150 lariat, The price tag for one now is high, and if I was to replace my F150 diesel I would look at the lightning, would be nice if they were to adopt the 800v setup to allow to charge faster and not need the really heavy duty cable to handle the heat and amperage.

[@pstoneking3418]

The faster any lithium batteries are charged, drastically shortens its life expectancy.

[@donhutton2641]

Great video. Only thing I would add. The level 3, DC fast charger is only recommended by carmakers for occasional use currently, due to battery life issues.

[@andyfeimsternfei8408]

Not true with Tesla. Not sure what Ford says.

[@donhutton2641]

@@andyfeimsternfei8408 Actually, Tesla only fast charges to 80%, then reduces charge rate to preserve battery life.

[@joefries7046]

Great video man. Informitive, upfront and honest. Gotta respect that

[@chriso847]

Thank you for sharing your experience honestly. People I know who have this truck, love it.

[@meinhard2974]

F-150 Lightning is definitely one of my next trucks!

[@arecibo1974]

You won’t regret it, I love my Lightning Pro, is been a blessing. Driving from 60-65mph on highway you will get great range. Over the rated 240 miles. I can powered my home an entire week due to my low power consumption at home, out of the bed 240v 30a outlet plug. Is a truck and 98kwh powerwall in one.

[@meinhard2974]

@@arecibo1974 Sounds good!

[@rudydedogg6505]

Not everybody is fortunate enough to work at a Ford dealership with EV chargers or have an employer who provides EV chargers or has the ability to charge from home. Your review was spoken like a true Ford representative.

[@erik....]

If you can't charge at home just don't buy an EV, it's that simple and I thought everybody knows that by now.

[@JordanRose-p7p]

Take the difference in what a normal F-150 costs to purchase vs what your Lightning costs, and how long your $1,900 savings per year would take to break even.

[@pstoneking3418]

True. These vehicles certainly aren't for everyone. I'm actually happy about that because our electrical grid simply isn't ready for that. And if I hadn't had 2 vehicles to trade in on my lightning platinum, I probably wouldn't have been able to afford it. Being 74 and single my lightning replaces my 2018 prius that I normally drove and my 2014 F150 that I need to haul and tow things. Those 2 got my price down to about $50k and didn't have to pay sales tax on the trades. Perfect truck for me local use only charge at home only. Beats the 10 mpg I got with my F150 and even beats the 50+ mpg I got with my prius. I have no complaints about range ever.

[@pstoneking3418]

Almost forgot... little to no maintenance. Just took it in for 10k checkup they topped off antifreeze & wiper fluid & rotated my tires. No more oil changes. Probably no more brake work. It has what's called 1 pedal driving. The only time I touch the brake pedal is to put it in gear.

[@8bajwa8]

New tires every 25k miles

[@tscoff]

I priced out an XLT F-150 4x4 and compared it to an XLT Lightning and the price was within $1,000. I didn’t compare the higher end models though, I only compared the XLT.

[@quazaar]

When I picked mine up, there was a f150 tremor and it was 6k less.. I installed solar to charge only my truck. I haven't paid anything for 4 months now. Plus I probably won't ever have to replace my brakes.

[@Slowpaws1389]

I love my Lightning, at about 17K km. I pay about $.08 per kWh,- Hydro Quebec.

[@ANKITPATEL-om2mb]

How is range in winter ? I am in Ontario and thinking of buying one. Just worried about range

[@Slowpaws1389]

@ANKITPATEL-om2mb about 390km of range during summer at 100% SOC, or 363km at 90%. For winter, at 90% SOC, the range is between 300km and 330km

[@magiclawninja]

Had zero intent of buying one. Watched this video. Seriously have me considering a platinum now. Most heat review I’ve seen without all the political and more bs. Excellent review.

[@Widdermaker]

Great video! Like you, once I experienced an EV, it’s like you’d have to be crazy to go back to a gas vehicle. It’s actually MORE convenient than having a gas car/truck because you leave your house every day with a full tank and hardly ever have to stop to fill up (only on road trips), and hardly ANY maintenance. I’ve been driving Tesla’s for 10 years now. Once the F-150 Lightning comes with the NACS charger built-in, I’ll be buying one. Also, it would be nice to know what the rear, lockable, tonneau (?) cover costs? One other thing: when is there going to be a convertible EV? Ford should make either a Mustang or Thunderbird convertible EV. That’s one thing I miss, having had a 2-door Mercedes hard-top convertible awhile back. It was turbo-charged, too, so it would leave most cars in the dust. Man, I loved that car, especially driving around in the country in the summertime!

[@BrianH-d6e]

So a short synapses of what I have to say is that in upstate New York it's way too cold and electricity rates are way too high. We pay about 38 cents a kilo watch would basically put that vehicle on par and mean that it's so cold up here. We would actually be getting worse. Electric mileage than a gasoline bid. You're right, not every vehicle is right for every single person. But for the most part, fifty percent of the country would find that vehicle a boat anchor

[@tywebb9879]

Great video Mitchell but I am surprised you do not have a spray in bed liner, it really helps control scratches and keep it looking nice. I also have a bedrug which is really helpful on the knees when moving around trees or shrubs in spring planting season. I have had more than my share of software gremlins but hopefully that will get worked out.

[@colecampbell1906]

I really hope to own one of these in a few years. Hopefully after we get settled in a house so I can have a home charger hooked up, and also by then they should have any little bugs worked out with it. They just seem to suit my every need. I like having a truck, but I simply don't tow much. I use the bed and 4wd enough to still need a truck, but I don't exactly tow much at all, and all the extra storage would be perfect. Plus they're fast af and I love that lol.

[@himonstercartoons]

I would consider a lightning, but I do tow a travel trailer and need the peace of mind of being able to comfortably go 100+ miles while towing

[@tobinkern5389]

You can't count on any electric vehicle for hauling or towing. Its just not there

[@pstoneking3418]

If it was local towing it would be fine. Two downsides about public chargers, too far apart & too costly. I can tow anything that my 2014 F150 would tow. But if I needed it for traveling, I wouldn't have purchased it.

[@quazaar]

It also depends on your camper. I have an extreme popup (off road tires). So it isn't a huge sail. It drops by .3kwh. So interstate at 70 mpg from 2.0 to 1.7. About 260 miles to 220 miles. It's about the drag not the weight.

[@zoobrizz]

The cost and depreciation and Anxiety aren’t worth it.

[@shib9315]

Very good honest review.. I do like the lightning, but its simply to big for my lifestyle.. I would love to see the Maverick in EV ..

[@CarlitoswayDR]

Bottom line with the gas saving subject is you have to be able to charge it at home or work and avoid superchargers. If you constantly use the superchargers is equivalent to 19 mpg, at home is around 60mpg. The cost at superchargers is 3 times larger than at home in avg.

[@jaydeister9305]

Thank you for the great honest appraisal! Beats commercials too! Sandy Munro/Munro Live test drive all their cars before they deconstruct them, that is very helpful also!

[@calledout4437]

Man I gotta say, I've always been a Ford F150 fan, but the new basically hybrid Ram EV Charger is looking pretty freakin awesome! Ford better come up with a competitor or I have a feeling they're gonna lose out to it big time.

[@wkw4095]

Very positive review for this truck. I wonder why the dealer lots are packed with these and not selling.

[@grifftech]

Looking at getting a new 2023 Lightning XLT and with the $15k discount now it is a no brainer to trade in my 2018 Mustang GT

[@etcarief]

Nice review, i like it how you deliver the information and it is smooth as natural as it gets *plus politicise a car, yall nuts fr

[@fredsalter1915]

Wow! That's only about 20¢ per kWh from the fast charger!! Which equates to roughly 7¢ per mile! (Tesla owner for 3 years here)

[@Bob-hq5lj]

As of October 2023 production on the Ford Lighting has been stopped, dealers are required to return stock to the factory.

[@snomofilms]

Seems good for your use case, which is the norm for who buys half ton trucks anyway. I need to tow distances so tech just isn’t there yet. But I cant wait till it is 😎

[@ARpirateant]

My work truck wastes around 1200-1300$ a month in gas ⛽️ trying to convince my dad to get this truck to replace what I have

[@zoobrizz]

The cost and depreciation and Anxiety aren’t worth it.

[@SinisterMD]

Doesn't tow - has a hitch. ;) Honestly I would have a Lightning right now but unfortunately I do tow and it's just not feasible with current EV tech. We'll get there but until then it's ICE for me.

[@TheElderOne2003]

I had a Ligtning, and the dealer warned me that towing could cut the range down. No joke!!! Made it 59 miles and was pulling into a charger. I'll keep my 2500 Ram 6.7L for towing anything more than a cross town trip

[@lenm2857]

@@TheElderOne2003 What were you towing? Edmunds did a towing test with 7,000lbs and got 170 miles, not great, but usable.

[@quazaar]

It's about how much drag there is. I forget who, but a channel did 10k weight that was low and it didn't drop it all that much..

[@greenspiraldragon]

We just got one at work. We don't pull heavy loads or drive long distance so it's great for our purposes. But as a consumer, I always look for cheaper options and they ain't cheap.

[@MBergyman]

The Lightning will fit the actual needs of 99% of current truck buyers. The price tag is too high for most though, and there are plenty of used gas trucks at a much lower price point. Personally, I would love a Lightning, but I'll likely never willingly purchase a vehicle newer than 3 years old, too much depreciation for me.

[@cmiles97x38]

With the cost of batteries and electric motors, I would never buy a used EV past warranty. Who would risking 10s of thousands in replacement parts.

[@kempkennedy3542]

I think they are 'ok'. I personally like EVs but the costs are high, insurance is ridiculous, range anxiety on any long trip, and resale is terrible. I still have a 'desire' for one, but can't justify it at this time. They do have great features, great speed/torque, and can save you some serious cash compared to gas in the long run. Glad you like yours!

[@jamesdaniel6225]

Did you factor in all the costs of mining all the materials it takes to build the truck? What about factoring in the cost of the environmental impact of the battery after it dies? Or how about the cost of replacing the battery with a fresh one? What about the cost to charge the battery if everyone owned one? Since the grid couldn't handle such demand, I'm sure the price to charge would be MUCH higher.

[@LoveInTheDumpster]

Did you factor in all the cost of pumping all that oil out of the ground? What about the environmental impact of all those carbon emissions? Or how much a new engine will cost when it goes?

[@jamesdaniel6225]

@@LoveInTheDumpster the environmental impact of all that carbon is big lush healthy trees…. I realize it may have been a while since middle school science, but the amount of carbon in the atmosphere is NOT the problem that environmentalists say it is. I guess the short answer to your question is YES. Electric vehicles are by far more harmful to the environment than internal combustion engine car.

[@ontheroadwithralph1530]

I love my 2023 Lightning Pro. I had a chance to trade out of it for a lux package Maverick hybrid - and I passed. And I do a lot of long distance driving; seven trips of more than 500 miles, including three of 1500+ miles.

[@HorseRadish403]

Let me guess. You work for Ford

[@Dealerplates420]

What do you mean pro?

[@BobbyKullman]

Great video! Thanks for helping us to understand its capabilities and real world experience with it.

[@matthewflakes1481]

Hi, I live in Decatur, AL and I’m interested in a Lightning. I was looking at charging stations in AL along I65. If I stopped and charged the truck with the larger battery in Prattville, would I have enough range to make it to Orange Beach and be able to run a couple of errands once I get there, before having to charge?

[@truth6565]

I came to this video wondering if this truck would be the perfect daily and literally that’s dudes conclusion haha 👏🏽 good vid

[@DavidLeee]

Appreciate your perspective and candor. Good stuff.

[@MarkSmith-Uzor]

Excellent!! Smoothly done Review!!! 😊❤. I am so buying it the chance I get!

[@Agent77X]

Still the best BEV pickup! Cannot beat a Ford F-150 Lighting pickup truck and dealer service!

[@Thesolarhawk]

nice video, fyi, those are clipper creek chargers at your dealership, not chargepoint in the photo you show. clipper creak are very reliable. just a note! thanks!

[@fakumadda1632]

Didn't he say he would talk about the things he loved and hated? I didn't hear him say anything he hated. Anyway, I own a 22 Lightning. Bought it 10 months ago. My advice if you do a lot of long-distance diving is to buy the extended range battery as you will run into a lot of broken chargers. It will be great once the Tesla chargers are available to non Tesla's as I believe their network is better cared for and therefore more reliable. Other than that, it's a great truck. Does 0-60mph in 4 sec. Also has lots of power to pull out vehicles icing a charger. Just make sure you carry a good tow rope because there are plenty of brain-damaged people out there who think they need to be idiots on a daily basis.

[@SheldonKreger]

Depending on where you live, the fuel savings can be CRAZY. I save over $400/mo on fuel compared to driving my V6, which I keep for longer trips.

[@mattedler5788]

Awesome review- overall quite positive. So why the image of a thumbs down on the video link?

[@shonnyd4071]

Probably cause more people are more likely to watch video if it appears to have negativity. Actually good strategy

[@ianbds6436]

Good video bro. I love my gas tundra but you had me really interested. 👍🏻

[@scottiswatchingtele]

Is the charging speed an issue? I liked the video. Dealer here says there can’t sell them. Guessing due to the interest rates. They’re making a new trim between xlt and lariat. I wish they made it look different than the ice one. The Silverado has a unique look to it

[@TKAT.]

Using a truck as a family car is exactly why trucks suck now.

[@randolphpaul5899]

That means you are keeping it. Good Call.

[@thechang66]

Awesome video, thank you for keeping track and taking the time to put these together. What type of bed cover are you using? The area where it retracts to looks pretty small compared to others I’ve seen where I’d loose 2.5’ of bed space to accommodate the retracting mechanism. 4:16

[@thechang66]

@@wgabriel thank you!

[@willmarty92]

This is a great video - loved it

[@tbone9405]

If there was any DC fast charging available around in high numbers in towns, and not just highways, people would see it and slowly get interested in EVs. I live in a large town in Florida, no fast charging at all. Nearest DC fast charging in another town 30 miles away. So CCS is a joke around here, luckily I charge at home.

[@brita654]

Dude I hope your a salesman cuz you have ability. Good video

[@carlosorive31]

Look fantastic, but my only question is how long battery last which in my opinion will be a reason why I will not use an electric vehicle now, the cost of change a damage battery or not working battery is like buying a new car. I definitely keep gas car for now until the industry make less expensive batteries or a different technology.

[@Frankie2751]

I understand when people are saying you save so much money on gas and oil however you’re gonna feel the cost when you’ve had that truck for a couple of years and then the battery starts failing once you have to start replacing the cells in the truck now that’s gonna shoot up the cost on top of it. You need to go to a specific Technician that is trained in electrical vehicles so you know that your truck is going to come out of the shop in one piece. Another thing is yes you’re saving a bunch of money in gas. However, these electrical vehicles that are pushed on us are very expensive upfront as well. What they should do is make an electrical vehicle that is The cost of an regular sedan so that people can try it out and once they see how useful it is, and how affordable it is, and how much money they’re saving then once the car crap out they can go and possibly buy a more expensive model of an electrical vehicle. Most of us don’t spend on vehicle that we don’t even know if we’re gonna like it as much with all the footage pushed around about EV cars catching on fire EV cars bringing a house on fire cars locking their family inside updating. it’s a very expensive mistake.

[@georgeversluis8442]

I had a 2024 rental for two months Hated everything about it I bought a Tundra and love it

[@GONAVYCHIEF]

Best truck I have ever owned. Ford did a great job on the Lightening.