046 Planemaking - the boxing

[@StavrosGakos]

Hello my friends! As i told in the begining of the video it will be the boxing episode. But wtf is this boxing? Let me explain using Caleb James article about it: "For any of you that are not familiar with the term boxing it has to do with the wood that is inserted into high wear portions of the sole with a very hard wearing wood. The traditional wood was almost exclusively Boxwood (Buxus Sempervirens). The boxing wood is placed in such a way that it orients the end grain of the wood toward the sole of the plane. It is inserted on a bias to the sole that is parallel with the bed angle or the wear angle." and using John M. Whelan's book "Making traditional wooden planes": "Boxing inlays may be cut with their grain parallel to the sole, but in that case, the thin boxwood is subject to breakage along the grain. Another consideration is that better wear would be achieve if the end grain of the boxwood were used on the wear surface. For these two reasons a vertical grain orientation of the boxing would be the best. However, this would leave one one section of the boxing - the one which supports the iron - at risk of breaking off along the short grain. The optimum compromise beetwen wear resistance and resistance to breakage at the mouth is making the boxing with the grain running diagonally downward from heel to toe, at bed angle." Now i hope you understand it :) I'm preparing few pairs of sliding dovetail planes. For the body i used beech (4 pairs) and pear (1 pair), and boxwood for the boxing. I glued the boxing with hide glue. That glue choice allows easy repair/replace when the boxing would be destroyed - just heat it up or make it wet gently. It is a little bit different video than my others, i hope you will like it :)

[@jamesmurray7478]

For those who cannot source boxwood, iron wood could be a likely substitute. It was wood of choice for sleigh runners, for its strength and wearability. I used it for bench dogs and tool handles.

[@LaraCroftCP]

"Hello Handtool freaks" Well, thats one of the best descriptions of me i ever heard.

[@ciceromanoel7608]

Valeu!

[@toddlarsen6215]

Stavros - I feel like you are once again leading me down the rabbit hole of plane making... keep thinking of the planes I’m going to need to build to build the planes I want....

[@tim_bbq1008]

This video showed us a lot of information regarding the boxing preparation, sizing, grain direction, fitting and overall installation. Answered a lot of my questions! thanks! You always make great videos and I appreciate the efforts. Wish I could give more than one 'like'.

[@StavrosGakos]

Thanks Tim!

[@Michael-wm5fx]

Wonderful to watch and impressively precise workmanship. Thank you for sharing this !

[@michajuszczak5261]

As a violin maker who can't afford nice wood for my instruments, seeing you pull out these marvelous pieces in every video makes me almost cry every time. I do enjoy watching your work regardless though.

[@StavrosGakos]

Michał jako lutnika napewno masz dostęp do dobrego materiału ;) Pozdrowienia!

[@michajuszczak5261]

Właśnie wcale nie! Ostatnio musiałem sprowadzać z Austrii. Zapłaciłem sporo, a i tak nie był za ładny. W Polsce mało kto chce się dzielić, a nawet jeśli mają, to w kółko tylko świerk i jawor...

[@StavrosGakos]

A czego szukałeś?

[@michajuszczak5261]

Orzech, bukszpan, owocowe. Nigdzie nie mogę znaleźć czegoś dobrego na instrumenty

[@StavrosGakos]

@@michajuszczak5261 za bukszpanem stale się rozglądam :)

[@bkaledas7613]

As you may recall I commented on your grain orientation of boxing about a year ago. I always thought that the boxwood grain ran parallel to the body of the plane. This video puts your comments and rational in perfect perspective. Thank you sir.

[@tiupuig9971]

Amazing and you make the insert with hand planes, really nice to see, your are the best, congratulations

[@professor62]

You NEVER fail to impress, Stavros! Your technique is impeccable. Will we see these planes completed in a future video? I sure hope so. Thanks for your inspiration.

[@StavrosGakos]

Thanks! That's the plan 👍📽️

[@johanneswerner1140]

Exactly, look at the fit at 18:50 (ish). Just... f'in' brilliant.

[@plakor6133]

Thanks! I have always wondered how this was done. I think boxing is one of the most elegant things ever.

[@ramingr]

Once again, I am utterly impressed. Stavro, you are with no doubt my tool making hero. From now on, my official woodworking goal is to someday have 50% of your skills. Keep up the great work!

[@StavrosGakos]

Thanks a lot mate :) regards!

[@billebdon4338]

By conincidence I just finished and tested my first plane, a simple Krenov-style round-bottomed one of cherry for planing concave doors. I was very pleased with how it works and have got a lot of inspiration from watching all your videos - so many thanks Stavros you give me a high target to aim for in a very satisfying craft.

[@StavrosGakos]

That's great Bill! In Poland we say "zuch chłopak":) it's a pleasure for me!

[@ucool9735]

Very enjoyable video, it shown all the dimension how the work carried out and very helpful for viewer to understood how the whole process, thank you very much.

[@StavrosGakos]

You're welcome :)

[@tyremanguitars]

can you do a video one day on how you make hide glue? that would be interesting

[@andrewturnbull5897]

Superb artistry! Beautiful technique and finished products! Hope we get to see the finished planes! Thanks from a wood turner just outside Toronto, Ontario, Canada!

[@StavrosGakos]

Thanks Andrew! Regards

[@roybailey9554]

Absolutely amazing job , brilliant to watch such an amazing craftsmen at work 👏 thanks so much Stavros 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👌

[@StavrosGakos]

Thank you Roy :)

[@gdpjm]

Great video. Love seeing your planes at work making other planes.

[@StavrosGakos]

Thanks Berl!

[@DavidNayer]

I love your channel and this post as well. Thank you for taking the time to share with us. I use a more ecological wrapper clamp than tape that is just as fast and convenient. The after life of bicycle inner tubes I can no longer repair. With a little overlap they hold themselves well to start and finish with a tuck under. They offer uniform, variable and greater pressure than tape for bonding. They now have a second purpose, and produce no trash. :)

[@StavrosGakos]

Thanks David! I'll check it :)

[@zannisdi]

bravo Stavro! Can't wait to see the next episode.. very educational in theory and in praxis(the boxing). It's really pleasure to watching you..!

[@StavrosGakos]

Thank you:)

[@ibpopp]

Thanks, Stavros. This answers lots of questions I have had over the years.

[@StavrosGakos]

I'm glad for it :)

[@finn127]

This is outstanding. Well done, a joy to watch!

[@luizgabriel3388]

This video was very helpful. I'm on my way to make my toted smoother plane. I will use sucupira (I've seen in your instagram that you get one also). This wood is very hard and I'm planning to use it in the sole to reinforce it and tote. Well, good luck to us with this wood. Cheers from Brazil

[@StavrosGakos]

Good luck Luiz :) Regards!

[@reneemakesthings]

This was lovely to watch. I wish more people used hide glue. It's such a wonderful glue.

[@LimitedGunnerGM]

I really like the commentary, I’d like to hear you talk as you’re laying out some of your other planes so we can see your logic and explanations.

[@donnadimeo]

Amazing work as usual. Thanks for the boxing info up front. I was going to ask about the angling, end grain technique. I watched the video first then read the comments. I’m looking forward to the next video!

[@StavrosGakos]

Thanks Donna!

[@adamduerr1203]

Perfect timing for me. I just watched your video on the rabbet plane (6 I think), and now I know why you added the apple at the bottom, and why you arranged the grain as you did. Thanks for anticipating my needs! Great work.

[@StavrosGakos]

You're welcome Adam :) thanks for watching!

[@slomkaadas9603]

Perfekcja i równowaga w jednym. Świetny film, dziękuję. Pozdrawiam serdecznie

[@StavrosGakos]

Dzięki Adam, pozdrowienia!

[@J_ismyname48]

Man i could watch this kind of stuff all day. Very interesting.

[@zacharyosborne4024]

If I could like this video several times, I would. Really great stuff.

[@StavrosGakos]

Thanks Zachary :)

[@Saw-IT]

I found this captivating and be sure to know, I draw inspiration from you Stavros. Thank you.

[@StavrosGakos]

It's my pleasure Matthew :)

[@deliaguzman1138]

Your mastery of making and using planes is really staggering--and inspiring! I want to learn more! Please keep making these videos!

[@StavrosGakos]

Thanks Delia :)

[@martinseelig585]

great work, beautiful craftsmanship!

[@StavrosGakos]

Thanks Martin!

[@fk6536]

So satisfying to watch these steps with handtools. (albeit you used a band saw) In a tool production facility this would probably be 1 run over the cnc mill with maybe even 1 step with a special bit for the groove and some teflon for the slide, aka BORING. This way more love feeling and skill goes into making a plane :)

[@ryandavis7593]

I could smell the hide glue. Excellent work that we have grown to expect from you. Keep up the great work and greetings from the high plains of Texas.

[@StavrosGakos]

I live that smell 👍 thanks a lot Ryan, regards!

[@BBruno185]

Thank you very much for this beautiful and very informative video 🐞

[@StavrosGakos]

You're welcome Bruno :)

[@archer9338]

I can't wait to get a little work shop to do all this cool stuff in.

[@kornkraker]

Ever since I saw you use your sliding DT plane in a earlier video, I hoped like hell you would someday demonstrate your process. I eagerly await the rest of this build...and just subscribed so I don't miss a thing!

[@StavrosGakos]

Thanks a lot!

[@ikerstges]

This is such a great source of information!! Thanks for showing your trade, skills to us all Stavros! Does anyone have a recommendation on where to source boxwood?

[@StavrosGakos]

You're welcome! Check on UK eBay. My friend told me that in France people use it as firewood..

[@martinseelig585]

6:20 you may want to set manual white balance on your camera

[@StavrosGakos]

I can't promise but i'll try 😉

[@Vincent-S]

Ooh, perfect, I want to experiment with boxing for future stuff

[@bentontool]

Great video! You are super-intelligent (IMHO)! I absolutely LOVE your jigs/fixtures! Brilliant! But, (I have to ask) why sand the end grain? You cannot possibly improve the planed finish (?)...

[@StavrosGakos]

Thanks! After planing the end grain is smooth only in one direction. That's why i sanded it 👍

[@chadlewis3515]

I can't decide which you like more- making planes or making shavings. Either way, you're exceptionally good at both.

[@gregzoller9003]

They say it takes a plane to make a plane. It would seem it takes a number of (specialized) planes to make a boxed plane.

[@pmewUK]

An artisan at work. Fascinating to watch. 👍

[@StavrosGakos]

Thanks mate 😉

[@tommypouncey5667]

Jesus Christ you’ve returned.

[@vasiliskarafillidis4263]

Hi stavros nice job. You can use bicycle tubes as a clamp. Its better and you can use as many times you want. Keep walking

[@StavrosGakos]

Thanks! i'll try :)

[@jkr3008]

There are so many boxwood chips that you could, probably, create a boxwood veneer!

[@hshanoo]

Dziękuję za kolejny wspaniały film :) Jeśli można, mam dwa pytania. 1. Nie wiem, czy potrafię to dobrze sprecyzować, ale czy słoje bukszpanu są ustawione "równolegle" do noża struga, czy przeciwnie (w sensie, czy bukszpan będzie się chciał "wgryzać" w obrabiany materiał, czy raczej ślizgać po nim)? Nie wiem, czy jasno to opisałem. 2. Czy warto robić takie wstawki z innego twardego drewna (np. buku)? Pozdrawiam serdecznie. :)

[@StavrosGakos]

Hej, dziękuję :) kierunek usłojenia jest taki sam jak łoża, pisałem o tym w opisie filmu. Jeżeli nie masz twardszego (bardziej gęstego) drewna to bukowa wstawka w bukowym strugu też spełni swoją rolę. Mimo to zawsze warto poszukać czegoś twardszego. Powodzenia!

[@JimmyMac717]

I need to watch this again. I thought I’d save a little time by cutting the boxing (already laminated) on the table saw. I made good progress until the final cut. The emergency room doctor said my index and middle fingers’ nails should eventually grow back. 😂

[@StavrosGakos]

Damn Jimmy! Please be more careful :)

[@bhaygood7306]

Great work very fine 👍🙏🙏

[@StavrosGakos]

Thank you!

[@nurgle11]

Hi Stavros, thanks for this it is very instructional and I loved the older dovetail planes you made so these should be a treat. I'm sure you've used animal hide glue before but I cant remember the (well used) glue pot making an appearance, am I misremembering?

[@StavrosGakos]

Thanks Andrew! Version 1.0 was without hide glue :)

[@MathieuClavilier]

really nice video !! Which king of glue are you using ? Thanks for all your sharing !

[@StavrosGakos]

Hey it was hide glue, you're welcome :)

[@phooesnax]

Thank You. Really very interesting.

[@StavrosGakos]

You're welcome :)

[@johngeier8841]

Excellent work! As always 😃

[@StavrosGakos]

Thanks John!

[@thewoodmandan842]

Amazing work as always brother.

[@StavrosGakos]

Thank you Dan!

[@jjwouters6436]

Howdy, what kind of plane is that at the 2:43 mark and is that just a groove plane at the 5:18 mark?

[@StavrosGakos]

first one was a bead plane but i reshape the sole and the iron. Second one is kind of grooving plane. Cheers

[@BobBlarneystone]

hmm, instead of using disposable tape to bind while gluing, try reusable rubber strips cut from old bicycle innertubes. They also clamp tighter than tape.

[@StavrosGakos]

Thanks! I'll try it

[@JohnColgan.]

Looking forward to the episode where boxing becomes planing

[@michaelking2910]

Hi stavros how did you learn all to make such beautiful planes I’m a cabinet maker and I’ve started using more wooden planes as it’s easier than setting a machine some time and would love to make my own plane! Love the videos keep it up 😁

[@StavrosGakos]

Thanks Michael! I just make two things - reading and practice ;)

[@michaelking2910]

@@StavrosGakos thanks for getting back to me what are some of the books you have used in the past I’d like to buy some but wouldn’t know where to start!

[@StavrosGakos]

@@michaelking2910 buy John M Whelan "Making wooden traditional planes" it will be good for the begining

[@michaelking2910]

@@StavrosGakos thank you so much! Keep Up the good work really enjoy watching your videos 😁

[@dinardoworldwide]

Want to try this soon

[@Altarnik]

Спасибо за интересный контент! С нетерпением жду новых видео)

[@cantstandstill101]

What's the plane from around 16:22 and later? Thanks

[@StavrosGakos]

It's my scraper plane, check video no 013 ;)

[@ryandavis7593]

I can’t add more likes but I can like everyone’s comments.

[@NowyStaryDom]

great work 👍🏻

[@Ateesh6782]

11:45 is an example of “knowing exactly what one’s doing”. Great :)

[@StavrosGakos]

Thanks :)

[@JimmyMac717]

Excellent! Thank you!

[@BoyceBailey]

I wonder if the pearwood smells of pear? I've been in lockdown for toooo long.

[@StavrosGakos]

Haha no:) it have no smell

[@fletchro789]

I cut down a small apple tree in my yard last year. I used some of the wood to make a handle for a plane. I dried the wood in my oven on low temperature for a few days and it has an interesting smell. Like apple? Maybe, but while it was drying it did smell nice. Once dry, very little smell.

[@oneshotme]

They look great and now I'm going to your next video to see you finish them lol Enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up

[@philaandrew100]

A man after my own heart, using Hot Hide Glue!

[@danam664]

That was great to watch. The precision is amazing. Can you tell me what type of glue you are using?

[@StavrosGakos]

Thank you! It was hide glue, as always :)

[@mdhebert]

Beautiful work. :)

[@GeorgeLowrey]

The more planes you have the more planes you can make......

[@StavrosGakos]

That's the rule 👍

[@wernerviehhauser94]

And then you open a gallery with all those planes on display and an attached workshop to try them :-)

[@dan_marcenariaartesanal]

Coisa linda 👏👏👏

[@wernerviehhauser94]

And I nearly made pen blanks out of the boxwood I got when I had to cut down my buxus due to boxwood moths. This is much more useful!

[@ДавидРуадзе]

Можно купить у вас эти рубанки и сколько они стоят? Спасибо за ранее .

[@StavrosGakos]

Hey, please write to me on my Instagram profile. Regards

[@stephencooper3480]

My favourite wood beautifully cut, Delicious...

[@sawekmarat3055]

Od dawna oglądam Twoje filmy będąc przekonany że oglądam greka (może nim jesteś). I nagle w filmie z 22 lipca 2018 odezwałeś się (natychmiast spojrzałem w zakładkę informacje). Miałem dobry humor ale teraz mam jeszcze lepszy. Odezwij się czasem po polsku.😉

[@StavrosGakos]

Dziękuję :) mam greckie korzenie. Postaram się, pozdrowienia!

[@stanbrackhage]

so much innovation!

[@StavrosGakos]

Thanks Stan!

[@adriantaylor1266]

Perfection !

[@toddmaurer204]

I don’t have boxwood available, I do have: Osage Orange, Hard Maple, and Beech available. Thoughts on any of these for boxing?

[@StavrosGakos]

Any hard and dense wood will be ok 👍

[@leomeilak6532]

Have you made a side beading plane

[@StavrosGakos]

Yes, but i don't have a video about it

[@floydmcdougal4699]

Awesome work. What is that yellow tape? Looks like electrical tape...

[@StavrosGakos]

It is an electrical tape :) thanks!

[@scottanderson2581]

First of all lets get one thing straight... no finger snap...that's it, i'm off... yeah right, like i could even try so let me get this straight end grain boxwood cut at 50 degrees glued together and then you go and rebate it by hand that is just more than a skill and a half as always totally impressed by everything whats next? a dovetailed box insert? a ramped shooting board? (hehe) you sir are ' the master ' 👏

[@StavrosGakos]

Thanks Scott! The dovetailed boxing is high on my list, but first i have to make few planes for this job 😉

[@scottanderson2581]

Can’t wait. The ramped shooting board was a joke btw...

[@scottanderson2581]

Just started my first dovetail in metal today. 1/8” brass into 1/8” mild steel Learning lots

[@StavrosGakos]

@@scottanderson2581 i know :) i don't need ramped shooting board since i got skewed shooting plane ;) great info about your metalworking! Good luck with your project :)

[@scottanderson2581]

This has partly been because of your influence Sir That’s the effect your vids will have on some people. I say keep em coming

[@fugenfuller-rp1fu]

And now everthing comes together. 👍

[@romualdaskuzborskis]

what is that boiling glue you are using? P.S. You could use rubber band from bycicle tyre for strapping instead of using painters tape. This way it will be reusable:)

[@StavrosGakos]

It was hide glue. I have to try it next time :)

[@VORONM]

Are these tools for sale?

[@StavrosGakos]

Hey Voron! I wrote about it in the description ;)

[@ОлегСтольников-в2х]

Для чего эти заготовки?

[@StavrosGakos]

Hi Oleg! Everything is in the description, regards!

[@svetlanagavrilova9186]

please tell me what kind of glue you are using. и простите за мой французский

[@StavrosGakos]

Hey, it was hide glue, i wrote about it in the description. Regards!

[@aubreyland3972]

I'm ashamed to ask but, what sort of glue are you using?

[@StavrosGakos]

hey, i wrote about it in the description of the video :) regards!

Mój lajk jest równo 300-setny :-)

[@macguy12341]

What kind of tape is that you are using?

[@StavrosGakos]

Hey, insulating tape.

[@jefflawson7543]

I would love to try to make my own planes, do you know where I can buy any books or plans ,

[@StavrosGakos]

Hey, Jeff! John M. Whelan wrote good books about it, but i think you should make laminated version first. Regards and good luck :)

[@jefflawson7543]

I love working with wood and that's something I have wanted to try since I started watching your videos. Thank You for sharing your videos for us all to see

[@fletchro789]

"How did you make this plane?" "Oh, easy. I just used a couple of planes."

[@ShafiqMc]

Today I learned you can use hide glue on wood

[@dustybootraveler]

Nice

[@andrewbecker6065]

What kind of glue is that?

[@StavrosGakos]

hey, i wrote about it in the description of the video :) regards!

[@SethKotta]

Man, that's gonna be one big plane.

[@StavrosGakos]

I don't get what you mean.

[@SethKotta]

@@StavrosGakos I was being silly and implying you're gonna use all of those for one giant plane.

[@grzegorzchilkiewicz5652]

ile ty masz tych strugów?

[@StavrosGakos]

Nie mam pojęcia :)

[@mywaleri7954]

dlaczego używasz tego kleju, a nie Titebond III ?

[@StavrosGakos]

Używam go bo lubię, a poza tym kosztuje znacznie mniej niż titebond 👍

[@mywaleri7954]

@@StavrosGakos jaki rodzaj kleju iw jakich proporcjach nakładasz na wodę?

[@StavrosGakos]

Najzwyklejszy klej skórny z wysoką klasą lepkości. Nie przywiązuję wagi do proporcji, skupiam się na jego ostatecznej konsystencji - po wyciągnięciu pędzla z kleju klej powinien spływać przerywanym strumieniem.

[@mywaleri7954]

@@StavrosGakos Thank you