Cheap POWER Engine Shootout! SBC vs LS1 WHO WINS?! It's NOT WHAT YOU THINK!

[@eric.l2605]

" we may have to contact the Oracle, Frieberger". That one got me😂😂😂 awesome video!

[@StayTunedTA]

HAHAHAH, he said he can be in the videos in the near future.

[@volvoproblems3567]

@@StayTunedTA The knowledge will flow

[@eric.l2605]

@@StayTunedTA awesome! Can't wait to see what you guys come up with

[@Automotivemayhem]

​@StayTunedTA I thought u showed dome pistons in that old school? Was I mistaken, valve reliefs an all. But with that big cam 64cc chambers I was worried about piston to valve clearance

[@jcat96]

Hope Dave gets to guest in a show soon!

[@irvinlewis5022]

Tony,s dad is man of few words, but yet you can tell he is exited about this build, and happy to be doing this Tony.

[@duramaxdad]

1:28:43. Dad says a lot with those eyes. Miss my pops. Been 15 years w/o him. I got a 15 yo son who wants to work with me and I love it.

[@danfrederick3172]

I’d give anything to be able to work on something with my dad again. Cherish those moments man.

[@douglewis3182]

Same here brother

[@gman7949]

Same here.

[@MatthewJensen-d9u]

32 years since he passed, and he was with me everyday on my last restoration. Making good memories is what it is all about brother!

[@yurimodin7333]

😢

[@clydenaicker3816]

Same here brother.

[@kcchapman9776]

As a 30 year old man whos lost his dad at 21 i so wish i could do these things with my pops. Your beyond lucky! Definitely keep at it! Id do nearly anything to have him back around.

[@tylersmith7054]

Shout out to Tick Performance. I was at LS Fest this year racing in Grand Champion (ax). My clutch felt funny in grid and then went to the floor. A spectator said something was dripping under my car. It was a bad o ring on the AN adapter for the GM slave cylinder. I ran from my trailer to the vendor row and went to any vendor that might have one. Tick was the only vendor that had a replacement. By that I mean he took the one off the display and refused to take my money. Got it slammed back together and bled. Back to racing! Good folks. Give them your money.

[@stevewhitney260]

I run their tick master Speed bleeder and shifters in 2 of my cars and they are awesome quality 👌 and customer service was spot on!

[@bobbywalter5320]

good to hear

[@iananderson8911]

Tick is top quality when it comes to products and customer service. Not only Chris but even Matt is constantly answering huge questions in forums and posts and they go above and beyond in everything they do

[@AzTurboMini]

That's how you conduct a successful business. 💪

[@colestowing8695]

awesome story, good companies are worth supporting!

[@Dylan07-59]

The clean engine building area of the shop killed me😂

[@FineArtbyAldo]

Father and son that's the way to go. My Dad passed on 2019, I sure wish he was still around. Anyhow, I enjoy the heck out of your channel Tony, keep them coming!

[@Yippa391]

2017 here

[@douglewis3182]

Lost my Dad the same year and miss him so much. I love the father son videos

[@FineArtbyAldo]

@@douglewis3182❤

[@FineArtbyAldo]

@@Yippa391❤

[@marctorigiani4558]

With those heads and 30 over should be slightly higher than 111;to 1 looks pretty legit

[@ronlowfi]

Father and son jam! I do miss my Dad. Keep having good times with Pop!

[@Sunspot-19]

Cherishing that chapter in life is precious. The times spent twisting bolts and forming sheet metal. Pop was in the paint business as well as did some wrenching. We had some awesome car projects together. A few baja bugs that we built with roller bearing 1835's, Norris cams, Zenith carbs. A very nice paint job over meticulously cared for metal and fiberglass. The Mojave Desert would never be the same. Later was my 1964 Ford Fairlane. That one was restored carefully. A few years down the line, I latched my hooks on a pair of brand new 427 FE crate engines through a friend in the right place. One was earmarked for the '64. That 427 coupled up to a 2:80 rear end... Cruising the interstate, 75 mph with a casual ~1,500 rpm. Lotsa leg left in the throttle. That arrangement hauled ass and pulled 25 mpg out of a big block. Pop was a handful... But did we ever have some great times getting in trouble together! He sure did like to drive my '64... Still to this day confused by one or both of us never getting arrested in that damn car! Mom woulda beat both our asses to a pulp if we had been taken down town!! Cherish the memories!!

[@cliffturner5086]

Thank you for the revised video, was planning on watching later tonight in Australia but all done. I have terminal pancreatic cancer and was given 5 months to live in February 2022 and still here with a head like a sponge absorbing all your valuable infomation. Thanks again and Take Care.

[@joshuaperry8602]

Tony, it's super rad to see you getting to tear into some engines with your dad. When I was 13 me and my dad tore down the 351w in what would eventually become my Bronco. He worked road construction and usually went on unemployment in the winter, so, winter was the perfect time...but, with no shop or garage, we yanked the 351w, set it in the kitchen on a heavy coffee table. We did a cheap overhaul kit ($238) at the time. Cut out a little bit of a Ridge, honed it, replaced 1 piston that had a bit of galling, cheap RV cam, flowtec long tubes, hand lapped the valves on the kitchen table. Then when the weather got nice enough we carried the short block out, finished it up, stabbed it, and it fired right up....core memory set in stone. Fast forward, my dad passed away in 2018. While I was dealing with all that emotionally, I decided to build a new 351w for my Bronco, that I still have 20+ years later. I spent a bunch of money and time putting together a pretty gnarly 363. I finally yanked the old 351w out, had the new one ready to go....but I can't do it. Seems dumb, but I'm now going through that 351w to put it back in. Unless I knock a window in it, I'll try to keep this engine with the old truck as long as I can. Keep at it buddy, I'm loving the channel.

[@gasautomotive]

Great video. as a professional welder, I have to say when you welded on the engine oil pickup, you hooked the ground to the flax plate, forcing the current to go all the way through many parts up to the oil pump and the arc can jump across the bearings and leave a burn mark. You should have hooked the ground directly to the oil pump, so the current was directly there. Thus not jumping through parts. No, I'm saying as a negative just helping out for next time.

[@jamichevy]

Exactly!

[@classicgmdiesel1248]

I'm not a professional welder but I was thinking the same thing 😂

[@coltonwancho2735]

I don’t weld oil pumps I Braze them just feel it’s over kill to weld

[@clementsmallengine4833]

I came here to comment this and welp guess I don't need to anymore. Personally I would never weld one with a mig tig only. Another thing to take into consideration is if the pump is cast steel or cast iron both requiring a different filler rod. The one comment I haven't seen is that pickup they used had a tie bar that bolted to the main cap...🤦‍♂️

[@michaelefournier]

​@@coltonwancho2735 Not overkill to weld anything inside an engine that can come apart.

[@lukeofearth1036]

I love that you shined a little light on the small block chevy. I'm so tired of LS's. I know they are great, and that the small block was what everyone did before. But that was preKZbin and having to hear about it constantly.

[@willclark491]

I love how every time Tony mocks the 327 HP prediction he reduces the number. It's much easier to get over a shorter and shorter bar. 😜

[@RealSteelStreet]

Yep 🤣

[@StayTunedTA]

HAH, I was spooked by Chris but my thoughts were 425 and 450 for the 5.3!

[@nickstoness6474]

Best 327 comp I’ve seen yet. Your dads a boss and the good vibes he’s getting is adding more to his life than pizza could ever take. Guess we get to see a ripper 327 in the shop truck and show barb how bright the tail lights are when you slow to let him catch up. You boys are legends!!

[@joemueller-zt9hn]

so the higher compression engine with more aggressive cam made more power. surprise to no one. love this channel, couldn't think of a better way to spend a Friday night! shout out Tony's dad for the cameo see you guys at duck tape drags! nothing but love brotha 🍻

[@eaglefat9398]

There are other factors that came into play like the shorter rod ratios of the 327 hurt it's peak HP numbers but helped the torque and the 4" inch bore un-shrouds the vales for better flow but hurt efficiency, not to mention the terrible 23 degree valve angle compared to the 5.3's 15 degree

[@pancakebrunk]

Also the pistons are .060 over

[@ChrisS-oo6fl]

Regardless we build naturally aspirated Small blocks and LS with similar cam design and compression but the small blocks absolutely destroy the LS and cost less to make the power. Our 9° DLM small block engines made 950-1050HP carbureted. No Matthias hard everyone try’s (and they do annually) no one can make the LS as competitive in these environments without forcing air down its throat. If a team tries an ls it never makes a full season without going up for sale. They just aren’t there yet. Even if you go factory available head vs head the 24502517 11° splayed valve head will destroy any GM LS head. A LS out of the GM box gets slapped across the mouth by a flat top GM Ct400 604 out of the box.

[@vans1107]

The small block had a lot going for it compared to the LS. Also I'm pretty sure summit heads are copies of other manufacturers with their name machined into it. But the summit 195 small block head is most likely a better design than the summit 210 LS head. That combined with 17 degrees more intake duration and 18 degrees more exhaust duration, almost a point more compression on the small block, a 4.04" bore compared to the LS 3.78...its really no surprise it made more power. With a bigger cam and a GOOD intake (fast or NNBS truck) that LS could easily have made more. About the only thing comparable in this "test" was the fact they had similar displacement..and still the small block had 7ish more cubes over the LS.

[@GregDowns-zk9mf]

Hey Tony I'll give you two pizzas for that 327.

[@simbanugz2906]

This video is awesome. I'm a mustang guy all my 44 years. I drive a procharged 12. My wife and daughter wanted a project car. We found a 92 Z28. I debated going ls. But decided to just get a scat rotating assembly, some eBay 2.02/1.6 aluminum heads. I forget the cam but it was around .515/.515.We went with sniper EFI. 2400 stall built 700r4. Dynoed 325/390 @ 5600. 12.4 @ 111. My wife and daughter love it. Building the SBC was easy compared to modern engines.

[@EdwinLugo-t3h]

That’s cool father and son working together 🎉

[@timothymoyer3447]

Me and my dad built my first car when I was 16. A 57 Chevy 2 door hard top that we bought for $85! Rebuilt the 283 and converted it from auto to 3 speed manual with a Hurst floor shifter. Many hours in the garage together turning wrenches and skinning knuckles. Freezing our butts off in the garage in the cold PA winters. I miss those days. I lost my dad back in 2008 and miss him every day. Enjoy the time you have with your dad.

[@valricogarcia]

That 327 is a stout little motor on a very reasonable budget. Excellent episode today. Well done!

[@travispeoples]

Super cool! Don't forget the 5.3 is all aluminum... the weight savings will make a big difference in the car. What a great combo!

[@andrewslagle1974]

non adjustable valve train stinks!

[@sexycummins]

@@andrewslagle1974hydraulic roller! What are you adjusting? 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@ragtopdeluxezl1]

Yes, A much better choice for that Camaro. That was not an apple to apple comparison either...

[@crackjack8320]

I weighed both, Ready to run weights is 406(no coolant, 5qt oil alum head, mid intake, 750dp carb, torque starter, standard 90s flexplate fuel pump hei) the LS6 weighed 425lb, (starter. Alum block head. Pan everything. Standard 04 flexplate, tbss intake, same scenario *note no fuel pump, stock everything else.) Both without coolant, acessories or water pump, exhaust, air filter, both measured on the same scale. The gen 1+2 sbc 350 is smaller and lighter despite having a iron block and fuel pump. Also worth noting a sbc holds more coolant to make up for weight

[@michaelmabe8214]

Yeah they keep saying similar parts but in what world would anyone expect a hydro to keep up with a solid roller?

[@jameskellison9342]

Hell yeah! This one’s for Dad! I love this for y’all! Hugs from Texas

[@StayTunedTA]

Thanks so much!

[@7eis]

He was very respectful of trying to not make noise while Tony talked but joined in on the noise making very quickly 😂

[@klmorris1576]

Stone is an absolute gem. I am very glad he is part of this channel.

[@stoneharleysheetz]

Thank you for the kind words 🙏

[@Andrewlang90]

Love seeing Mr Angelo out here working side by side with the boys building his dream ride. Can’t beat those memories, can’t buy them. Love it. Also side note, the small joke about moving to the “clean” room had me laughing way harder then it was probably meant to

[@MRnicknitro919]

283 fuelie and the 327/365 engines loved 7000-8000rpms all day long. They thrived on it. Is a LS a great engine yes. But what makes it is its heads . Newer SBC engine blocks by dart has the same / similar oilling systems . Sbc has a better clapping force around the cylinders then the LS engines unless you buy a tricked aftermarket block. Grubworm if grubworm racing proves it in his video about sealing under boost. He has the or one of the fastest SBC stick car in the country. Also LS fanboys do some research. Bill Grumpy Jenkins was making 327s into 331cid SBC making 750-850+ hp back in the late 1970's thru 1980's and winning championships. Tony its great to see you and your dad building a car together. I never got to do that before my dad passed away. Family is everything! Your a good man.

[@geoffchambers3589]

That Small Block NEEDS to go into the shop truck. ASAP!

[@danielnowicki917]

Yes ! With throttle body efi!

[@MrThatdude82]

My Dad had 3 sons. He told me on the way back from a race this year that I was the only one he got to build and engine with and that he wished he had with my brothers as well. He's going to love this episode.

[@randymcelwee9603]

LS gets a Snyder's lifter oil bath. Old school 327ci gets a Utz lifter oil bath. Always a method to the madness with this channel. Five star video.

[@tony66au]

Australia had a lot of 307/327's floating around in the day and they literally got scrapped when the LS bug bit. I've had a play with them as a Mopar guy and I quite like the iron blocks and the 327's go have when they breathe but youre spot on with the leaks and fumes and they need love regularly especially in Aussie Climate where the LS you can run hard and put away wet and then daily the thing but they dont look or smell as cool :-)

[@kalanirobb54]

So lucky to have your dad working with you to make HIS dream happen ! Loved this channel before but now we are hitting the apex . Decent!!!

[@KylieMaribelEileenp]

tunedbyai AI fixes this. SBC vs LS1 engine showdown

[@GuntherVonB]

My dad ONLY used Melling oil pumps in his engines. He was rebuilding old stuff back in the 50's, so he had a few years to see what worked and what did not work.

[@frankm8533]

Old school for me I just see alot of LS swaps that nobody can get running right Popping cutting out long starts running rich high idling. A buddy is putting a 350 back in his 86 regular cab dually he had a brand new setup 6.0 4l80 3 1/2 years nobody could get it to run right he gave up he said never again. Love the channel Tony

[@CorpseRitual666]

Great video Tony. Literally felt like an episode of engine masters 🤯Also gotta love the collab with the dad makes me wish mine was closer. Keep up the great work and im still happy to see you doing your own thing with this channel and seeing it prosper.

[@StayTunedTA]

That is really high praise I super appreciate it! Was a long week but a great week with Dad in the shop.

[@Peter-z5f]

1:00:50 Tony clamped the welder's ground onto the flex plate to weld the pickup tube onto the oil pump, thereby running the current through the bearings, because they're the only thing connecting the crank to the block. Hopefully it didn't try to weld any of the bearings to the crank. Personally I would have clamped it on the pickup tube instead.

[@focojeepr]

Looking for this comment… I cringed a bit when he did that.

[@josiahpoirier5449]

Dude. What a treat to hang out with your pops all week like that. Building a lot more than engine there. More like life long memories. Cool.

[@pete79602]

what a bad ass episode it was really cool to see the old school small block stand up to the LS. I’m very glad to be a member.🍕

[@Crazyreseller]

Barb has come a long way from mid level corporate life to a very knowledgeable guy in the shop. Props!

[@Musclecarcustomgarage]

I enjoy making videos with my dad . The man taught me so much about car life. We build cars together race together always enjoy our time together. We just started a new series called muscle car corner . We talk about racing and for him what is was like owning and living in the Golden era of muscle cars. The storys I grew up on and made me want to build muscle cars.

[@scottkowalczyk3243]

I enjoy your channel and the cars you build. I just noticed you started a New addition to the channel. Who doesn't like to hear stories of people who actually bought those muscle cars in the day and to hear how fast they actually went. That's why I'm hooked on channels like These

[@Strengthfamily]

Hey I love your channel. Awesome grassroots channel. You and the old man seem to have a blast together.

[@shk2564]

So nice to see your father and you spending this time together and doing this! We only have so much time and this is such a special thing for both of you! ❤

[@ni_wink84]

Seeing you and your dad work on a car together is enough for me, I don’t care what the engines make, I’m just happy to see a father and son together bonding over cars that’s what it’s all about

[@danhufferdoutdoors]

I winced a little when you grounded to the crank,.You should have grounded to the pump. I love the show😁

[@ivycycles]

Me too....

[@paulsmith-dp6xb]

Oh shit moment for me ! arch the main bearings lol

[@michaelmonday418]

Great video, I was surprised at the results. Your dad made a good choice.

[@jonfallt1]

You can't forget the 327 had some pretty aggressive dome pistons and solid lifters. I'm sure the 5.3 would make a bunch more power with a different set of pistons

[@hendo337]

Just a bigger cam would put it over the top, flat tops, 58-61cc chambers, thinner head gaskets would all just be gravy.

[@robholmes2129]

The cam really cuts the balls off the LS,there are bigger factory LS cams then the one they used

[@zacharykelly7434]

They probably ended up at similar compression ratios, stock ls is in the 10.5:1 range

[@DSRE535]

The 275 hp 327 came with flat tops, the 340-360hp 327 from the earlier 60s Corvettes came with dome pistons, you need some small chambers to get any real compression out of these with flat top pistons

[@lcmurdal]

Probably could have dialed in that tune also

[@msh6865]

My Dad and I tore down our first engine together when I was 16. A old school 283 in a '67 Malibu. We did it in a single bay gadage with a junk winch tied by chain to a rafter. That was 1984 and it seems like yesterday. RIP Dad.

[@ragtopdeluxezl1]

First engine rebuild for me was a 283 in a 65 Impala in 1975. My sis had a 67 Malibu with a 327 and I always have loved those cars!

[@thecloneguyz]

My neighbor has a Twin Turbo 283 He can spin 8200rpm no problem REPEATEDLY @ 12lbs boost Insane

[@montes3of3]

Paternity test right off the bat at 0:55. "whichever makes the numbers" Like an episode of Maury Povich "you ARE the father"! Now he just needs to rev it to the moon and blow that tihs up! Awesome!

[@dannymac57]

Fantastic Video! I grew up in my Pop's Machine shop building engines with him. This video reminds me a lot of the good old days. Thanks for the memories Tony...

[@Bobthebuilder.69]

Tony's dad is a cool cat. It would be cool to see him more often on the channel.

[@starnesandcars]

I feel like it’s part of the job to crush your dreams off the bat so you’re not upset when yourmotor under performs on the DYNO. Your dad is such a strong silent type. I think he could be a voice actor. I would definitely listen to him read audiobooks.😅 great episode btw

[@Lucians_legacy]

Dude, your dad is great. "I'll take whichever one puts up the numbers." I can't wait to see more of this build. Nice work on the engines guys!

[@dano9215]

Man do I wish my dad was still around. I miss him dearly. Great video, I felt some tears welling up. Thanks.

[@DerredmaxTRIAX]

You also told him the pistons were flat top 10.5 to 1 When clearly they are 11.0 to 1 pop ups. lol. I love this channel!!

[@jaredcissell1454]

Just for those who didn't already know. Flat tappet cams are ground with a miniscule taper to them to cause them to naturally want to "push" toward the rear of the engine.

[@bolognatony8739]

Old school small block with 18° or 15° heads and a roller lifter/cam setup 💪

[@robertjohnson4784]

Hey Tony what a beautiful awesome video helping your dad out I lost my dad several years back and I miss him every day God bless you and your dad and enjoy all the time you have with him

[@douglewis3182]

Is it just me or is Tony's dad kind of a badass

[@GrandPitoVic]

Brother i love the 327 to 5.3L competition!!! Everyone puts a 350 against it usually because 327s are a bit harder to find now days. My granddaughter helped me put my 821 heads on my Ls3 last night for our swap!!! Proud grandpa right here!!!! She did good. She helped do her first cylinder head!!! Awesome!!!! A flex plate and a couple more gaskets and I can fire her up on the stand!!!! It's been 10 months and almost have her running!!! Frigging EXCITED!!!!!! Watching this video just gets me more excited!!!!!

[@williamland1]

Awesome video !! I drove a 68 Convertable to high school !! 327 ! Same color and gut !! So stoked to see dads car finished !! Dad Rocks 👍🏻💯

[@StayTunedTA]

Lucky you! Thanks for watching!

[@johnroberts9311]

Tony is definitely getting the buzz with this video. Just left a live discussion about it on Richard Holdener's channel.

[@madrew2003]

The proper way to build the front end is to mount the inner fenders into the outer fenders 1st. It's gonna be a struggle otherwise. When I swap my Camaro's engine I pull the entire front clip off intact after just disconnecting the engine harness.

[@stoneharleysheetz]

Figured this out the hard way

[@BillyJoeJimBob28]

Just bumpin this up. Hope Tony catches this. 😎👍

[@StayTunedTA]

Yes, lol we have learned that. I got them a whole order of operations off of the Camaro forum.

[@ajohnson1066]

Very happy I found this channel. You guys are putting out long videos that flow, and are well edited. The tech explanations are good without nerding out too hard. A lot of people are looking for this type of "every step of the process shown" type content vs the regular - Okay we built an engine and now were going to run it. Don't change.

[@bigbill709]

It is good to see your Dad helping you Fellers building his motor.!!

[@MatthewJensen-d9u]

My Jedi like awareness senses a VGG fan in this feller???

[@FrederikSchumacher]

There's no way you guys did all that in a week, build two engines to running state, and did body prep work, and then also edited a video... That's just a wild amount of work. Great video, great results! Now please go and get some rest, you guys deserve it!

[@gouldnj]

This build and compare is frickin awesome, but you doing this with your dad is awesomer

[@jasonn4397]

@1:29:00 Spoke like a wise man who's been there and done that. Real enthusiast's love to drive and enjoy the car, not chase 10 HP for horrible reliability and frustrating maintenance. Well done guys!

[@hedrives]

So cool that your Dad is there working with you guys. Special times for you, Tony. Cheers from near Aspen, CO.

[@leviweber1384]

Love you tony, near America in the south above the equator west of the Mississippi

[@MatthewJensen-d9u]

Tony for mayor. I think that was the Buick owner from NYC’s quote. Either way, AMAZINGLY fun and soulful show. Barb and Stone are super talented. Keep living the dream!!!

[@thedukeofspeed]

This is cool ! I have a 327 and I was wondering what to do with it.. Thanks for sharing, had a lot of fun...

[@kristophersmith4525]

These are the only 1 1/2 hour videos I ever watch from beginning to end. Just guys doing what guys love to do!

[@brandongreene3213]

Coming in clutch with the ever "Holy" dad jokes

[@daveeyrich7524]

This was a really great comparison and super interesting. The note on efficiency is where decades of development comes in.

[@ricktroxell6448]

😂😂😂 the Oracle, who's that? Fryburger. You are a very lucky man to have helped build you father his dream car I wish mine was still around to be able to do that love ya pops

[@steelwheels327]

Tone, this is so nice you're doing this project with & for your dad ....a great memory for sure !! Pops seems so cool & old school !! Tell Stone to watch that beard when he welding or grinding we don't want him to light his face on fire !!

[@MatthewGraham51713]

Let's go. Was worried Tony was on vacation this week.

[@StayTunedTA]

What's a vacation?!

[@MatthewGraham51713]

@StayTunedTA as an avid watcher of StayTuned I have no idea how you do not have over 500k subscribers already. Great content. Great people. Just does not make sense to me.

[@br549200]

I was starting to sweat too!

[@cwthemachinist]

Great video. I think your dad made the right choice. He just wants to be able to cruise and not be messing with it all the time. But everybody seems to forget anymore just how awesome small block Chevys could run. I built a 360 inch small block, all motor, no spray or boost, 716 h.p. It would rev to 9500 no problem. Lot of fun!

[@saleenmav]

If you had to mess with that small block it’s only because you fuxxed something up.

[@bradleylovej]

@@saleenmav Mmmm, not really. Adjusting valve lash and tuning carburetors is pretty commonly accepted regular maintenance for these engines. Especially with medium to large cams, and especially with solid lifters.

[@davidfriedline7525]

Awesome engine builds guys , I love Tony's Dad is working with you guys ! He is in there cleaning up sons mess as usual ! Lol That 327 isn't a 327 punch 30 over ? But still killer motor ! Fantastic episode, Love the Dino , Tony looks like engine master guy ? David lamo !

[@jrw3813]

This was one of the best episodes of any car show I think I've ever seen. It was just a guy and his Pop and his buddies hanging in the shop doing what they do! When Pops said, "I'll take the one that makes the better numbers" I literally felt more AMERICAN than I've ever felt. I was just as surprised as y'all were when that SBC put down those numbers. The slap ass that was going on the entire video made me feel like I was at work with my friends, and the fact that Pops was there, I don't get that pleasure anymore, mines been gone since 2018, was the greatest part. Don't ever take that for granted! I love the show, and will continue to watch! Merry Christmas and have a wonderful New Year! Peace!

[@jamesshirley5875]

I would love to see you guys do more of these motor comparisons

[@DavyDave123]

38 years ago my buddy told me a 327 can make more top end HP than a 350 because with the right valvetrain you can spin it higher. I said he was wrong. I'm going to have to rethink my position. That is an impressive engine.

[@ragtopdeluxezl1]

That 327+ was not stock... Given similar mods the 350 would have the numbers....

[@leftyo9589]

you can spin a 350 just as high, and it will make bigger numbers across the curve.

[@MRnicknitro919]

@@DavyDave123 the 327 was a great engine in many ways. It was even better in the form of a 331 cid. The 350 was equally a great engine and provided more torque for bigger vehicles and still providing good fuel mileage versus having a BBC. 327's would run forever. GM seems to stop making the great engines and started making some real junk until the LS.

[@SPEEDY-FABSHACK]

Nothing beats the sound of an LS hitting 7grand + !! That small block really surprised me, running strong numbers! Great to see you working alongside your pops Tony, good stuff. 👌

[@shredBucketheadshred]

smallblocks sound better than ls'S

[@rayreisenauer5311]

Not only did the 327 sound better but it made more HP.

[@Impala-qp9cb]

Didn’t surprise some of us.

[@marcpaustian3393]

Acetone to your cut: "Call me elf one more time. " Is Stone a liar liar? 2 builds and dyno same episode? Thats 3 videos for mortal youtubers.

[@earlarthur9378]

Tony it is amazing to see you working with your old man in the shop. I love it. ALSO, that dude has a wicked RMMF - Resting Mean-Mug Face LOL. Intimidating as HELL!!!

[@colestowing8695]

At the end of the day its the heads/cam/top end that makes power. You throw similar top ends on similar displacement engines and they'll do exactly what you would expect-make similar numbers (regardless if its sbc, Ls, ford, chrysler, whatever). Ls's got popular back in the day cause it was a cheap easy way to get creature comforts like fuel injection and overdrive transmissions etc. But I still remember the days when guys thought Ls blocks were "glass". Now everybody thinks they're magic (to be fair, there are a lot of benefits with them). I did love seeing that old school 327 rip though-that thing just sounded pissed off 💪😎

[@Impala-qp9cb]

My favorite is arguing with LS guys over big blocks. A big block is pulling those HP numbers at 9:1 with a milder cam at 6000 rpm and gobs more torque down low. LS guys are a special kind of people.

[@kingsamson9146]

Really loving the vibe guys. Great to see your dad having a blast - stoked to see the car coming together! Keep it coming, cheers from Germany

[@smithjohn3080]

7:04 thought i was watching a deberti video for a min "muh dad muh dad" 😂😂😂

[@Wreckerboy]

Wilson Race Engines used to rebuild our Trans-Am (series) engines, both the 358s and the later 311s we used. Always did a real nice job.

[@BigJoe173]

Love seeing pops in the mix!!

[@williamdavis8161]

Having experience as both a dad & a son, doing intergenrational stuff is the best. Cherish these moments guys. Great show! The motor stuff was good too.

[@josephmiele3745]

You forgot the small block was 40 over with Dome Pistons compression is horsepower

[@Soundman61]

Yea and you could tell it had more Comp. it was louder in DB / Audio gain for sure!!

[@Rogue_Moose]

RIGHT !!! The 327 was punched 40 over w/ high compression pistons. 333ci sbc vs 325ci LS More displacement / higher compression more power. LS held its own for completely stock bottom end

[@DBSSTEELER]

Yep. The displacement differential is too small to matter. The LS is 9,4:1, the SBC with dome pistons will be over 10.5:1.

[@chrisw5837]

@@DBSSTEELER I point of compression = 2 to 3 percent more power. So at 400 hp one point of compression is worth 8 to 12 hp.

[@victormitchell9391]

​@@Rogue_Moose the LS also had a better flowing larger runner head.

[@jsteed4388]

One of the most honest, bare bones verses videos I’ve ever seen… Loved it

[@bradleylovej]

Honest, yes. But as soon as he said, "I got a solid roller camshaft with a more aggressive lsa and better duration for this 327. I also got roller lifters," I was kind of out on the comparison. Still loved the video, but as much talking as Tony did about 'similar setups' he sure didn't do that at all. I wanted to see the exact same cam specs in both motors. Or at least very similar specs. But, I get it. He has to own these motors and he wanted that cam and rocker setup for that 327.

[@jesselee128able]

LS cam bearings are line honed from factory, the cam tunnels are all over the place. theyll always have copper showing.

[@rustysausage69]

Fun fact, early model LS1 engines have with non-coated copper bearings. I SHAT myself initially when I pulled mine apart (because I could see the machining lines in it very clearly) but they're factory. GM switched to babbit in 2000 model year.

[@HarleyDavidson88]

I came here to look for this comment

[@frigglebiscuit7484]

wow, thats got to be the dumbest thing ive ever seen. sbc doesnt have that problem.

[@rustysausage69]

@@frigglebiscuit7484 give and take. You take cam bearings that likely wont ever wear but you make 450hp on unicorn piss of great heads great intake large cam, Ill take being good about maintenance and make 500hp with just a cam on a stock engine.

[@Sixsicdix]

So glad your doing this with your dad my dad got me a 1966 c10 when i was 16 we planned on building it we got a 4speed muncie rock crusher and a 454 bolted in and mocked up. He passed and didnt get to see it run. Feels good to see tou guys do this together

[@Soundman61]

Old school small block all the way. Just think Duntov came up with this in what 53 or 54? and it is still rocking today!! I love the way they sound and you can tell it had more grunt. Ls is good but 327 is better. But hey I`m old also LOL. Great video man you always make the longer vids that I love. Thanks Guys.

[@larryalexander4833]

👍💪

[@C.V._McCullar]

Zora Arkus-Duntov

[@geoffws6]

This episode was hard for me to watch. Not because it was not good, it certainly was a great episode. More so, because my old man decided to check out in 2003 before I turned 30 years old. He and I did a few things together when I was young…mainly just him teaching me basic maintenance stuff. I love and miss my old man so much and I wish I could have a chance to do some projects like this with him again but it’s not to be. Now today in my 50s it’s difficult to find the time to work on my project while grinding a crappy day job and trying to make ends meet as a newly single guy. My health isn’t what it used to be too. I would do anything to have a buddy to help me turn wrenches on my mom‘s old Firebird that is now my project car. I’m living vicariously through watching Tony and his dad. Awesome video, my man.

[@jeffjankiewicz5100]

Great builds, but I`m 67 and the old school 327 screamer is from my childhood, like that Camaro tickles the little kid in me. Those leaks can be sealed, I pick the old SBC. My cousin still has his 67 Camaro with a 327 and it still RIPS! It`s his baby and has been meticulously maintained.

[@igoralcantara3727]

Tony's father like all old man can hold his words but his face says it all. Reminds me of my granfather so much. And I Miss that grumpy old man very much. It's great that Tony stil have his father to share this type of experience. Great video watching all the from Brasil

[@Tea_1745]

Hi Tony's mom!

[@kerrylewis2581]

This Camaro series is awesome. I have a few regrets; one is not buying a project car with my Dad. I thought we had plenty of time. I was wrong.

[@jerryberryhill2598]

Dome piston VS small dish piston….

[@jerrygaynor4384]

Really cool seeing you hang out with your Dad. Brings back memories wrenching with my Dad. Thanks Tony awesome video!!

[@_ANewLevel]

Hello mamma Angelo if you actually read the comments lol👋

[@lisagangelo]

I do!