Stealing From The Dead: The Consequences

Something not right in this cemetery
#cemetery #grave #belfast

[@CraigBarron-os9it]

Amazing. Just stunning. But why move the headstones and leave the bodies? That is just not right. Leave the cemeteries alone. The people who are buried there need their headstones with their bodies. It's not right.

[@Marksillerymusic]

What an amazing place... The carved headstone on the wall belongs in a museum to keep it safe.. wonderful video GV

[@GraveVisitations]

Thanks for watching

[@annfahy2589]

It is a work of art

[@PaulH-hl5hw]

I was thinking that too...eventually they will be lost..

[@tracylangsley4064]

Sadly in years to come they'll probably turn the park into housing estates or other buildings so the poor bodies below will be even more forgotten it's so sad to think after living your life then being laid to rest eventually there'll be no trace you ever walked the earth😢

[@suehofkamp8594]

The tree on the tombstone is a Yew Tree. Also known as the Tree of Death. This tree goes back 2000 years to the time of Christ. It is popular in old graveyards. If a graveyard didn’t have a Chapel, they would hold services under a Yew Tree. They were deliberately planted near churches and graveyards in the early 1600’s in Scotland, Ireland and England. It is considered a sacred tree.

[@megsmysteries8968]

Wow what A nice place. Headstones are a work of art.

[@nadiabrook7871]

What a GORGEOUS place, and well kept too!! It almost looks like a park!! I can't imagine burying your loved ones, and at the same time, worrying that their bodies would be stolen!! How AWFUL!! The infamous duo of Burke and Hare come to mind!! Thanks for sharing this with us, GV!! XXXX 🤗❤👏👍💕💞

[@dm607]

Folks can relax and have a picnic on graves like they did in the old days. I loved that very ornate old one GV, any idea of a date? And the 1685 stone for George was amazing. The intricate stone lacework on the statue, wow! My late father in law lied about his age to enlist for WWII. Thank you for a peaceful, historical walkabout. Deb of Oz XXX

[@GraveVisitations]

Hi Deb, no idea of a date on that beautiful one with skull and crossbones unfortunately. It is a really nice area to walk enjoyed it

[@belindawilson1350]

Hi GV that was so very peaceful and neatly kept .Interesting and beautiful. Thank you❤

[@peterredfern1174]

Another top number GV,absolute amazing craftsmanship specially the carved headstone,great to see the cemetery is well looked after. Safe travels,take care ,god bless ,👋👋🙏🙏👍🇦🇺

[@joelhurley2678]

What a wonderful cemetery and beautiful stone work.

[@angietunstall2555]

I'd just like to thank you for the wonderful work you do with not only these videos, but reading the headstones and pronouncing the various names. I had a look at the DEAD GOOD WALKS site, and was greatly disappointed to find him joking, half reading headstones, often saying, I can't be bothered .. This makes YOUR approach professional, having great integrity, and is respectful As if I didn't believe this already. 😉😘

[@GraveVisitations]

Thanks Angie, we love doing what we do and that is the reason why these headstones need to be highlighted more and the stories etc. I believe if other creators are not interested in what they do don't bother starting a channel 👍

[@venivendivici888]

My mother often took us to tour grave yards. I absolutely love this. GV has such a beautiful Irish accent and he's so calm, steadfast, easy going. I feel so much better in this crazy life just listening to him. Thanks much GV!

[@GraveVisitations]

Thank you I'm glad you enjoy the walks with me 👍

[@shirleyn546]

I watch GV and Serenity Sue as much for the accents as the history. Love the Irish accent.

[@user-jx1hv3mv1f]

I know you said,they moved the gravestones to make a park.I was always told,to never walk on a grave😢

[@GraveVisitations]

Are you saying I walked on graves?

[@johnf1121]

I thought that when I was a kid, now I sit on my grandparents grave and feel very comfortable, miss them still

[@johnf1121]

@@GraveVisitations I think that's a silly superstition, how do you maintain a grave without walking on it?, when I visit my grandparents I sit on them all the time, I don't think they mind !!

[@user-jx1hv3mv1f]

No,not you walking on graves,but the people using the park

[@GraveVisitations]

@@user-jx1hv3mv1f oh OK I get your point ya it's a strange one

[@aliciabrewer9444]

That's a beautiful cemetery filled with so much interesting history of the by-gone era's... A person can learn a lot just by visiting those old cemeteries. I love your channel GV.....🩷 I always look forward to watching your video's.🙂

[@user-no5xk2dr5b]

Awesome 🙌 video GV Thank you Brendan Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺

[@sallykohorst8803]

Thank you for Queen Victoria and lovely graveyard off the street yes Dublin has alot to offer so i will enjoy all videos. Thanks.

[@GraveVisitations]

This is Belfast not Dublin

[@FeralSheryl1818]

Wow! Beautiful. TY The tree looks like a weeping willow

[@GraveVisitations]

Thanks I couldn't remember 👍

[@FeralSheryl1818]

@@GraveVisitations I do that more often than not. I understand

[@violetskye_]

I only found your channel a couple of weeks ago and find it absolutely fascinating. You have so much respect for the departed its lovely to see. A lot of the graves you show us have made me cry, so many young people, its heartbreaking. I know youre in Ireland but if you ever visit Bradford, West Yorkshire, England you should try visit Undercliffe Cemetery. Its a huge Victorian Cemetery with around 23,000 graves and the resting place of over 124,000 people. I used to spend a lot of time there as a teen just reading the gravestones. There are some beautiful monumemts and a lot of mausoleums. Well worth a visit. Thank you, and Sue for all the work you do. 😊

[@khaussie]

Lack of respect moving head stones just to make a park

[@walkabout16]

Because it's now easier to cut grass and keep it in order besides many of the stones were in very bad order broken and unreadable, possibly dangerous, with nobody alive to remember them anyway.

[@khaussie]

Still disrespectful, just for convenience

[@lisahusted1543]

What a beautiful and peaceful place.

[@janetslicer3637]

I would guess Cathal, you are on the Shankill Road in the west of Belfast if that is called the Shankill Cemetery. I know of the gentleman who you have spoken of. He was referred to me by another KZbinr from County Down. He is very knowledgeable. I was never allowed to see much of this part of Belfast back in 1981 because of the troubles. A very nice cemetery going the way of a lot of English cemeteries where they move the headstones to the outer perimeter walls and open up the green space for people to enjoy and picnic. Not sure how I feel about that. But beautiful headstones nonetheless. Some of those headstones are impressive, especially the ancient carvings displayed on them. I love the ages too. Did any of the specially carved stones have the stone masons name or identification on them? Just wondering ... I am getting pictures and information to send you regarding my grandparents and great-grandparents. Thank you so much! ♥️🙏☘️

[@walkabout16]

Earliest church on this site, believed to be the White Church of the Chapels of the Ford, dates back to around 1306. So it was a graveyard not a cemetery

[@janetslicer3637]

@@walkabout16 So what's your point? Since we don't see a church attached to it and the name was specified as Shankill Cemetery and they have modified the entire layout, what difference does it make? Or do you just expect people from all over the world to know what you know?

[@garywarren-gh8os]

Greetings from Poteet Texas what a neat graveyard.

[@cathys7087]

This place is beautiful, and very interesting how some of the markers are set into the wall. Thanks so much GV.

[@brendacanter9768]

Thanks Mark❤ I dont know why they move the headstones to make a park😮 The carved headstone was awesome❤ I wonder if the name was on the back❤

[@mjrchapin]

Thank you for doing this and sharing all that amazing artistic talent for those who lie here.

[@GraveVisitations]

It's my pleasure

[@annfahy2589]

Hi GV& Sue,if you come to England,you should visit St.Marys in Harmansworth in West drayton on the London bourough of Hillingdon. Went there today for a service its a very old church,Norman arches and wonderful graveyard lots of very old tombstones beautiful carvings seen some from1700's. Going back for more!😊

[@Victoria5Patton]

The tree you speak of on the stone is a weeping willow, which signifies sorrow.

[@GraveVisitations]

Thanks I forgot lol

[@Victoria5Patton]

@@GraveVisitations Love to you and Sue.

[@dwightsteele4027]

Your narration in these videos is fantastic! Thank you for making such high quality videos 😊

[@marierklassen7985]

That is interesting that they had grave watchers . I wonder if the grave robbers would do that to their oun child or wife parents ? Sell them or what ever they did with them. I just can't imagine stealing bodies in the middle of the night, especially when the presume dead person is alive . Thank you for sharing another great video 📹 i find your videos 📹 very interesting. Take care and have a nice day from Marie in Northern British Columbia Canada 🇨🇦

[@ShelArmstrong]

Its a very beautiful place they really keep it clean and tidy lovely video GV nice to hear the birds singing away love it take care GV love It

[@maryellen8564]

Thank you for doing these!! I’m going to have to go back to Ireland and look up more family!! ❤️❤️

[@maureenalder8905]

Beautiful graveyard and so much interesting history..Loved it..Loving this N.Ireland trip and thank you GV for showing us the statue of Queen Victoria..sweet 😘

[@jamielieberg7053]

Great Video thank oyu for the history my leg is doing much better thank everyone for all your healing prays at 13:28 that weeping willow is that tree

[@GraveVisitations]

Good to hear Jamie 👍

[@Here_This]

Another very interesting video , thank You !

[@CatCmdr]

“Remember, Remember the fifth of November….” The date on that young man’s grave made me think of this. 🧐 The beautiful birds sing a Lullaby to all in these peaceful places. The wild things also live in peace in these places. 😊 I loved the sing-song Belfast accent. I was able to do a pretty good imitation of it after have my been there. God Bless, GV.💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚 PS: would you be able to post a link to his video under the “more” on your next video, so everyone could go there and subscribe to him? Thanks.

[@MackWilliams-oz2cz]

Those tombstones are wonderful! As a little boy in the 1950s, at my home church there was a stone with a similar verse:"Remember friends as you pass by, as you are now,so once was I, as I am now, soon you shall be, prepare for death and follow me. I was back recently, and looked for it , but couldn't find it.

[@kimbaoverby8728]

Carved into a bench at Hampstead Heath just outside the fence of the big famous cemetery there... "Oh wanderer, as you pass by, as you are now, so once was I, As I am now,, you too shall be, So prepare yourself for eternity."

[@marlalonchar3858]

Beautiful graveyard. Birds singing. A peaceful place to rest❤

[@susiejakes3019]

The cemetery looks like a beautiful parkland but it was done at the expense of moving the headstones from the sites where they were with the bodies. That is so wrong. The families who are still alive should protest. That is the only statue of Queen Victoria that I have seen that has her looking beautiful. The other statues have her seated and looking plump with a plain face.

[@GraveVisitations]

Don't think she ever smiled lol

[@grandmakaren4680]

My 7th great grandfather, buried in Boston, has a similar stone to the one in the thumbnail.

[@ttoner8246]

Thankyou so much. From Lisburn. Hope to visit soon

[@alisonbriggs649]

My grandmother was from that area. Lots of great history about that graveyard

[@GraveVisitations]

Really beautiful graves

[@iamshotty]

Such a beautiful cemetery and well maintained too. Thank you so much GV xx Teresa 🇦🇺♥

[@melaniefagan7632]

I finally got the go fund me to work hopefully you will see it - it is in thanks for all the many hours you and SS have spent making so many incredible videos thank you so much!

[@GraveVisitations]

Hi Melanie, do you mean you donated to my gofundme? I can't seem to find it

[@SerenitySueGraveyards]

​www.paypal.me/SerenitySue1

[@melaniefagan7632]

I’ll get it figured out. I’m going to delete my other messages here but I’m trying to figure out with go fund me what the issue is. I’ll message you back when I’ve fixed it and I’m sorry! I’ll get it to you guys! :)

[@SerenitySueGraveyards]

​@melaniefagan7632 hi, I've put in my PayPal linked above, thanks so much ❤

[@GraveVisitations]

​@@melaniefagan7632hi Melanie I left a link in this chat to sues PayPal account. I don't use it unfortunately. Thank you for your support appreciate it ❤

[@lisascarrott6142]

beautiful graves peaceful

[@GraveVisitations]

Really beautiful

[@imrosieposie2010]

Are the poor people still buried there? Just moved the stones?? The grave markers are beautiful.

[@walkabout16]

It was declared filled and closed a long time ago, then in recent times, cleaned up and made into a little park , keeping only some of the grave stones with many of them placed around the walls.

[@timwebster6151]

Yes the bones are still there.

[@maryleeswope3353]

Beautiful graveyard. Thank you for bringing us here.❤❤

[@dianechallinor2207]

Weeping willow tree gv brilliant video as always xxxx

[@GraveVisitations]

Thanks so much 😊

[@user-eo4wp7ob3c]

Beautiful place, thank you for taking us on this journey with you!

[@MegaGOOBER67]

Weeping Willow,cracking video,I see what you mean about the Edinburgh feel.☠️🪦 Thanks for sharing👍

[@walkabout16]

I remember in the early 1950's walking around this graveyard, it was overgrown and spooky, with a lot of the burial places cracked open and human remains visible. It's nice to see that they have since made it into such a nice peaceful park.

[@johndean5251]

Beautiful

[@donnicholas7552]

Interesting old cemetery. Loved the stonework on those headstones.

[@PaulH-hl5hw]

I went around that graveyard[shankill] a couple of times..when I lived near there..in 1991 briefly..I knew it was very old.. I can never resist a graveyard.. kilroot apparently had Norman tombs still visible in the 19century . and the skull of a giant Irish deer was discovered when the wall was being repaired in 1839. the Victorians embraced death..it was part of the culture..i always wondered the meaning of what i called [the shrouded urn] or veiled urn..i imagine its a grecian idea ..ashes in the urn..

[@kathyn8780]

some very old ones those carvings on the stone were just fab GV, burke and hare comes to mind ! Thanks as always oops I saw the plaque, what history

[@GraveVisitations]

I enjoyed this walk around history

[@rhondamc3642]

I figure they just moved the stones and not the bodies. It's a beautiful "park", but I find it very sus.

[@karenboouk531]

Loving your videos GV you go to some lovely places thank you 🌹🌹🌹

[@lisascarrott6142]

bless them they was once people walking on this planet rest in peace how can anyone steal corpses. ❤

[@GraveVisitations]

It happened unfortunately

[@michaelbedinger4121]

Beautiful graveyard, or should I say park, now. I have always thought, that cemeteries, graveyards should be left strictly alone, unless they are abandoned, the graves and headstones are in terrible condition, and there is no one left to visit or care for the place. Was that the situation here? Thank you very much GV, for another great video. Have a great day 😊

[@venivendivici888]

So beautiful, thank you!

[@monicamorar8047]

Le iscrizioni sono dei bellissimi versetti ❤ grazie per questo meraviglioso video ❤

[@GraveVisitations]

Thank you for watching

[@annfahy2589]

So many old graves,the 3yr old so sad💔🙏🏼

[@charlescorris3469]

You’re right about those carvings…

[@raymondmiller5098]

Great vid, GV!! Question: In the US, a burial is, by law nd custom for "perpetuity" . What are the rules in Ireland??? (Having lived in Germany in the 1990s, I know that one essentially "rents" the grave for a period of about 30 years; afterward the lease can be renewed by the family for another 30-year period, and so on. If this renewal does not happen, the gravestone can be removed and the plot can be used for a new burial.)

[@Delabane]

I think 1650 is the oldest gravestones I have seen, most haven't survived. Many were replaced by 18th century graves, which in term were replaced by Victorian.

[@dianechallinor2207]

g v could you look out for any Frayne grave please there is talk of them coming from Belfast thank you xxx

[@GraveVisitations]

👍

[@judithkowalczyk2412]

Interessanter kleiner Friedhof

[@johnbastien3872]

Some of those wallstones look like they're slate.

[@timwebster6151]

Ye they are, the Victorians started to use slate.

[@annfahy2589]

All those poor children may they be resting in peace

[@DeborahIsaacs-nx4dw]

So beautiful. Quiet peaceful. I love the stones on the walls. I hate to ask a dumb question, when you said Edinburgh. Is there an Edinburgh in Ireland? 🫤😊

[@GraveVisitations]

No I meant it reminds me of Edinburgh in Scotland 😊

[@roberthewelt1031]

Beautiful place

[@annfahy2589]

Wonderfully carved tombstones

[@rebeccaromero9317]

Was married to a man whose last name was Bell. He passed in 1993 from complications of Diabetes in Texas. Wonder if there is any possible relation.

[@zoidmo3388]

What a beautiful and well maintained place. You do such a wonderful job of sharing these places with us all. Thank you. Looking forward to viewing a few Belfast places.🥰

[@haroldmclean3755]

A nice old peaceful Cemetery 👍

[@spookycat8556]

I think the tree is a weeping willow.

[@julianash4663]

Very interesting video and beautiful stones there in the grave yard fancy pinching people's loved ones for money etc hope they were caught for three crimes

[@SandraWeierman]

Wow what lack of respect to the dead moving headstones and making it a park. WTF?!

[@mass55th75]

Is that tree a weeping willow?

[@tinasummers4578]

Hello GV loved your video ❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@tinasummers4578]

Thank you 😊😊😊😊😊😊

[@suepato74]

Thanks!

[@GraveVisitations]

Thanks Susan ❤️ I hope everything is OK with you

[@mysticmimaw]

Beautiful place!! So serene ❤❤ Thanks for another awesome video!!

[@GraveVisitations]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@mysticmimaw]

@@GraveVisitations Always!!

[@annfahy2589]

What an amazing place

[@maryleeswope3353]

Looks.like a weeping willow

[@jcrawford3098]

I've got some ancestry in that general area, wondering it those Crawford graves are any relation! Great video as always :)

[@GraveVisitations]

Could be thanks for watching

[@johnf1121]

me too! my great grandfather Everett Thomas Crawford, died in 1958 was born in America, though these could be relatives, hello from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA

[@timwebster6151]

It’s horrible to think you only have any legal right to a grave for 100 years and then it can be moved.

[@GraveVisitations]

@@timwebster6151 ya it's crazy very similar to Père Lachaise Cemetery Paris

[@ShelArmstrong]

I agree with that head stone on the wall should be in a museum to keep it safe it's very stunning and beautiful

[@Corgis175]

Like the way the grave stones are in the walls. Suspect the people are buried right in front of them?

[@jimmyhappysmith204]

I think the tree 🌳 was a reaping willow or the 🌳 of life. Ty

[@LaurenFerrell885]

Beautiful cemetery 😊

[@walkabout16]

Shankill Rd Graveyard In the heart of Belfast, where echoes blend, Lies Shankill Road, where time does wend, An ancient graveyard, tales untold, From 1306, its roots unfold. The White Church of Chapels of the Ford, Once stood proud, its hymns adored, Now a park, where silence speaks, A place of peace, where memory peaks. Queen Victoria stands in lace array, Her statue graces the light of day, In gentle repose, she watches o'er, A haven where the lost restore. Birds sing sweet in the morning light, Their melodies a soft delight, Amidst the stones, where stories sleep, Their songs of solace gently seep. Whispers of the past in every breeze, Caress the leaves of ancient trees, A tranquil realm where spirits find, A resting place, both calm and kind. In this sacred space, let peace abide, Where history and nature coincide, A testament to the days gone by, Underneath Belfast's broad, blue sky. May the songs of birds forever ring, In Shankill Road, where memories cling, A symphony of love and grace, In this eternal resting place.

[@claudiadesoto2378]

Beautiful

[@shawncunningham7619]

The tree on the grave stone is a weeping willow.

[@johnobrien7860]

Looks like The Bradford's saved their stone from been moved.

[@robinbarrett5301]

Very very cool ❤

[@joanneoakshott5486]

💙❤️

[@marieswindlehurst9694]

What a amazing headstone

[@DeborahIsaacs-nx4dw]

The tree almost looked like a willow tree.

[@thewholls7176]

I wonder if you’ve been down to the burial pits at Skibbereen…….??!!

[@rhondamc3642]

I don't see the link for Mark's channel.

[@GraveVisitations]

The church history trail