STEALING Ideas From MILLION DOLLAR Yachts!!! - Annapolis Boat Show 2021 (MJ Sailing - Ep 208)

[@adventureswithryan5474]

Thanks for the shout out. It was so cool seeing all your fans stopping by the booth to meet you guys. It was great to be apart of the Patreon gathering. So many people there to see your build. It was an honor to help with the tours. You guys have done an amazing job growing your supporters. I'm super proud to be one too.

[@MJSailing]

As many people (I hope) told you - we could not have gotten through the week without your help!! You made it so we could keep the focus on our viewers and not have to worry about anything else. You're a rock star!

[@RohanTheBT]

The best minimalistic design and finish and of course meticulous wiring is Onboard Lifestyle. And Teal is a fanatic at keeping things light and strong.

[@sandralee5621]

And beautiful

[@darrylamirault]

Matt cracks me up…. He should have his on tv show like Tim the tool man…. He’s a natural

[@jamielancaster01]

If Jessica wants cameras for KZbin up on the mast brother you better get them installed. A happy wife is a happy life😉 plus it sounds like a very good idea.

[@tollertollertoller]

In the casual shots, loved seeing all the KZbinrs recognizing and greeting other, knowing some of the challenges of public life and living on the water.

[@thomassilvis8764]

GREAT IDEA utilizing the boat show for design options. I have never sailed, but I have seen the world through the eyes of you tube channels like yours. Thank you. Jessica's idea of more cameras for you tube could also be for security, learning/teaching situations in case of mishaps. A very little effort now, could be an invaluable asset later.

[@marisaconner628]

Loved this years sailboat show and appreciated the addition of the sailing channels booth…it was so nice to meet you in person! We spent our time looking for stuff for our new to us Caliber 40. Came home with an Ewinch and ordered a MacPac and came home with info for new electronics and toilets.

[@almartin6227]

You both give “dedicated “ a whole new meaning!

[@neilmathias7249]

Great meeting you in Annapolis. Keep up the good work. Can’t wait to hear your take on the V444. James is constantly tweaking and improving. Would love to see/hear your thoughts on where on the spectrum you think it falls with performance vs comfort. It is not as narrow but it is very light.

[@bkackman]

Fun run down of the show. Your enthusiasm is always so infectious. I've been to shows of many types, but being at one when you are building your own gives you so much attention to details. It makes the opportunity to talk to the OEM's so much more valuable.

[@bob_._.]

It's nice you got to hang with Duca and Roberta for a bit. To me they have a very similar dynamic to you guys, and of course you share insisting on absolute perfection in the process.

[@johncollins5021]

I loved the boat show. The high light of the show was meeting you two and all the KZbin ers that were there.

[@robcox5929]

Thank you for sharing your journey it is staggering how much you have taken on, but like climbing a mountain each time you look back you will be so surprised how far you have come already. Live one day at a time and enjoy this journey. We are cheering you on.

[@pierre.a.larsen]

The design of the Kinetic, Balance and HH cats is beautiful. I really like the minimalism as it is functional, looks great and gives this calm and timeless feeling. But it requires a lot of perfection to look that good.

[@MJSailing]

So, so, so much work, lol. But we're hoping to pull it off!

[@pierre.a.larsen]

@@MJSailing You sure are working hard on it. It looks real good so far. I admire your courage. That is a very large project.

[@janinedunn1112]

yea!!!... design forward.!.. save the "traditional woods" for a few touch points. Your observations and comments are great! Your well thought out design decisions and choices of color and working surface materials will make it all yours...so much to choose from these days! How fun...can't wait to see your ideas come to life!

[@brianswanland5466]

When you are done, you are going to have the most kick ass boat of all the KZbinrs. Thanks for sharing the construction process. You are filling a need that Sail Life Created and now that Mads is almost done, I feel a void that you fill. 😂 --😊. look forward to seeing your progress and your new adventures when you finish.

[@JakobEngl]

Amazing video !

[@LillieElizabeth]

I am so excited to continue to see y’all progress each week 💕

[@karlfair]

Nice job on the recap of the show. It was a good show. Sorry we didn't get to meet. I have been going to the boat show since the 80s, it is a great way to pickup new ideas. Incorporated many of the things seen at the show into other boats. So if you were stealing. I guess I'm guilty as well.

[@evangatehouse5650]

Protecting the cassette rudders from stray dock or dinghy impacts seems wise on the 1600! Accent lights are light - but all the wiring adds up :) Our boat had very low front facing windows so our eyepoint was middle of the windows. Crucial to the saloon seating. And our seating faced forward. Great for on watch

[@lentongrovetrust5201]

Great video, your attention to detail comes right to the fore Matt, thanks for sharing

[@The1stKukuDrifter]

Great video. As a shopper it gave me a lot more things to look at when considering different boats. Also loved seeing some of my other favorite KZbin teams at the end. 😁

[@marclawyer2789]

From doing house renovations I admire your abilities to take this project forward at the pace you are and with the capabilities that you obviously have...👍

[@nwboater3916]

We enjoyed the discussion and insights for your own build. As Matt mentioned, there is a lot happening in the area of lighting...consider "touch" fixtures instead of typical switched units. It could reduce wiring by half and possibly do away with wall switches altogether.

[@robertlaird6746]

My favorite interior design is probably the Schionning that I saw on KZbin called Duet but I also love Onboard Lifestyles. I really like the simplistic look without wall panels. That rudder system is cool on the transom but not underneath the aft swim step due to the cleaning that it would require to maintain it. Suggestion; keep all of your through hulls above the water line except for your water maker but put your water maker forward of your black and grey through hulls.

[@MJSailing]

Duet is a boat we have looked at many many times!! It made us want to build a Schoinning, just before we heard about Max Cruise.

[@thomasw5430]

Loved seeing the many different ideas you guys are contemplating for boat systems and interior design. Had to laugh at discussion about camera! Laughed at that when I saw Matt saying no to cameras and Jessica mouthing the words: Yes we are. Hoping to make it to Annapolis for next years show. Looking forward to seeing the hulk being done to the point you can start on the systems

[@MikeC19100]

It appears that your mission to get ideas for your boat was a resounding success. Regarding the veneer options; don’t forget to look at it for the long-haul not only from a durability perspective, but for a piece-of-mind point of view too. Example: Zebra-wood is really cool looking for accents, but too much of it (like they had in the show boat) can get really busy over time and some people actually grow to dislike the busy horizontal lines. Whether you go with curtains or blinds don’t forget to include a method to hold them in place while underway. In some of the less expensive RV motorhomes the blinds or pull down window covers make a lot of annoying noise banging back and forth with the movement of the road, which would probably be a lot more when traveling in choppy waters on a boat. The use of rare earth magnets imbedded into the hull with a small metal disc on the window coverings is one way to minimize the noise. Or some kind of blind channel would also work.

[@MJSailing]

Magnets is a great idea and one I haven't thought of for securing the blinds. I like that they can be hidden instead of the ugly velcro or plastic fasteners. Thanks -Matt

[@Valerie_Dawn]

That was nice at the end seeing other KZbinrs having fun and socializing together. I'm pretty sure that was Jade Evans who scooped the t-shirt out of the bay! It was nice to see some examples of finishings that may be done on your build. Thanks for sharing.

[@MrJhchrist]

8:54 The hollow ottomans would be just as light and open looking with mesh or netting on the bottom of the open faces. Then they can still offer some storage if needed, but for light or bulky things. Maybe a basket for cockpit/saloon "junk" like hats, shades, sunblock, towels etc.

[@MJSailing]

You can't give that suggestion to someone with OCD - EVERYTHING needs to be put away and out of sight, lol. Or, at least, that's the hope. 🤣

[@edgaito7028]

Great video. Thanks for that last segment. I can't wait to get back to boat shows.

[@steveturansky9031]

Regarding Cameras, I've often thought a camera up the mast looking forward and down would be very handy for navigating through coral heads at slow speed (if the light was right) and possibly for anchoring also. The real beauty of building your own is that you can incorporate features that would be extremely expensive if built in a factory. When I built my F-9A, I skinned it inside and outside with carbon fiber instead of glass. It probably added 2-4% to the overall cost of the build but to buy a factory built carbon boat the cost would probably have doubled. Regarding the Vision 444 Nav Station set-up, for tall people who want to lean back, the TV becomes an obstruction. At least it looks that way in the videos I've seen. I have back issues and sitting upright in an office chair for long periods becomes a problem. Reclining a bit helps considerably and my head would be banging that TV all the time.

[@fabiopotenti2123]

It was great to see you at the show! Great job guys!

[@BillB23]

I would imagine that their will be much skull sweat involve in the compromises between a wish list and what will fit your time and finance budgets. I'm sure I'll nerd out as you portray this process. I eagerly await the day I can again wish you fair winds and following seas. I recognized Ryan from some Delos episodes & it was kinda neat to see his cameo appearance. He seems like a stand-up individual. Happy building!

[@MJSailing]

You can actually look forward to seeing Ryan even more in a few of our upcoming episodes!! 😃👍

[@annehoff6]

Thanks for the tour will be here for next weeks build. Stay safe see you then.

[@SoItGoesCAL34]

Lots of great ideas are discovered at boat shows where you get to crawl through boats of all sizes and prices. Thanks for sharing

[@10lauset]

Great conversation on your interior considerations. Wonderful outro. Cheers.

[@HarborsUnknown]

Great video guys! It was interesting to hear your takeaway from your favorite boats. We’re so happy you found your quick time onboard helpful! Please reach out if you have any more questions! 😊😊

[@MJSailing]

Thank you so much for having us!! We know it was very very last minute, lol. And yes, I am sure we will be reaching out again in the future with more questions about steering and other things. 🥰⛵

[@HarborsUnknown]

@@MJSailing our pleasure! Anytime!!

[@matrixmike4089]

Thanks for your fantastic videos, I've built a house boat for the river Thames, and am looking to build/buy a blue water boat, so your videos are so informative, and other of you are great communicators.

[@jeepjeff9131]

We are so bummed out. We got in an accident and our truck got totaled on our way to the show. We didn't even make it out of Michigan. So glad you were able to make a positive out of the show and we hope to meet up with you in the future. Love the build so far. Specially the storage under the floors!

[@edwardcassel3789]

I would like to urge you to take a look at a couple of video's from Atticus channel, since they were going to be installing lithium batteries and charge from their engine at the same time (360 watt) alternator the wiring gauges were much larger then first thought. It is a very interesting video about how to size the entire electrical system and be able to sleep well at night not having to worry if you have overloaded the system. Love watching you guys keep up the great work!

[@billlippincott3937]

Great special! Matt, you look at the detail the way I do, nice to see that "how does that work" mentality Enjoyed speaking with you at the YT booth as well. Best, Bill from Boston and future Kent Island resident?

[@_mysilentblue2227]

9:10 if you make one smaller, they will nest together when stowed, removable foam at different thickness would allow them to be the same height but still stow. Maybe even stow the foam within in the nested seats.

[@VilenGodin]

"Expedition Evans", Nataly from "Far Side". cool! 🙂👌

[@MJSailing]

We had such a great group of people there this year - and next year should be even bigger!

[@clayfarnet970]

It looks like everyone had a blast! Now, let the work begin…again.

[@MJSailing]

Oh my gosh, SO MUCH WORK! But there are big steps being taken right now. 😍🔨

[@ArcticSeaCamel]

Wow. This was very good insight of things. I really like the modern look and your approach to it. I´m going too that ”ultra modern” interior style with some color splashes. Not really fan of dark woody and moody interiors anyway. I think one benefit of doing things without additional linings and covers is to make cleaning easier and not to have “cavities” and difficult backsides of things. Think of all the mold and critters nesting there… 🐝🪰🕷🪲🪳🦖 Keep up the work and don’t take too much pressure of editing quality. Just love to see the progress and details when doing things. Cheers!

[@anthonymiller8989]

Susan & Tony here in Michigan, Nice video so sweet to see all your dreams "soon to come true" now get back to work!

[@dadedubbledee]

Not complaining but I much prefer to see yall making progress lol. The boat show looked awesome and so much eye candy. Dave sh said he bummed a ride a few time with yall lol. He's a trip. Can't wait to see yours done, loving the anticipation. Thanks guys. Glad yall had some r&r.....now hop to it lol

[@bstrang6]

As someone who works with a large company with IP, it’s amazing how willing these companies are to share their designs

[@alanstevenson3525]

hey, great show .watch you all the time. lots to do with your catamaran. can't wait till it's finished. hope we see you both travelling all over the world. slow progress but the finish line will be well worth it .keep putting in the hard work love you both?

[@grahamwheelock7497]

I would do the same thing not a big cat fan but those boats are pretty spectacular good on both of you it's a rocky road and few have the endurance I can see you two are great I also liked seeing all the great youtube channel characters at the end you really have that feeling sailing is a very tight knit community

[@waynestokes9046]

In terms of interior layout, you should have a look at Onboard Lifestyle. Teal has rebuilt this catamaran and he is using all lightweight components. The layout of the nav station and the u-shape settee/dining area is very well done. Lots of good ideas here.

[@traitorhatergetarope3163]

Teal is a smart dude... they did a awsome job building basik.. love that boat...

[@meganmeyer4481]

It was awesome to finally meet in person! -Megan @ TotalBoat

[@nena4215]

Thanks so much for all the tours, I love minimalism and modern design, nice clean look with less to clean! I swear I can clean my whole house in about an hour and a half. Is the Zebra wood the reason they are located in South Africa, you know, with all the zebras there....hahaha. What wood was that trimmed out in, do you know? Thanks again, loved it!

[@ericgabrieloutdoors]

Awesome video. I wish have the same vision of see the details like you did. When I got inside the boat I was overwhelmed by the luxury, but you focus in the functionality and performance. Love the video. Hope to see you in the future and also next year show. BTW was fun to see myself in the KZbin tent “1:15 minute”. Best wishes.

[@larrygawne3529]

Thanks for a great view of the boat show and the comparisons / ideas. One questions that I don't fully understand. You are full-time live aboard boaters. I understand that performance boats means a couple of knots (I could be wrong here) on passage. But the fact that more time is spent at anchor is the speed vs comfort worth it? We have a 45' motorhome because of the comfort when we winter Florida. Sure it is big, fuel cost higher, etc. But the hours behind the wheel vs time at our RV site makes the living aboard the major factor. If you outlined in a previous video please let me know. Thanks again, glad we can support your build

[@pekkasvinhufvud5215]

This young couple knows what they want and can build the dream boat. ”Performance” is more than speed, how high the boat can sail toward wind. As they have said on many videos one goal is good down and light wind sailing and feeling some sport to sailing. Sailing is more than moving the boat from A to B.

[@leonscheepers5350]

As @Pekka said, performance is more than just speed ... it is also security. Most cruising cats do half windspeed - performance boats like the Kinetic 54 do windspeed ... that halves your passage time (depending on sea state, of course) and gets you out of danger and to your anchorage quicker.

[@whitneylake2107]

Thank you for the tours !

[@andersonautomotive]

We had sundowners and fresh baked cookies aboard Lickity (the HH50) down at key largo one evening. Super nice couple, and the only boat my wife said she would consider trading our boat for. I just need to scratch together an extra couple million bucks.

[@MJSailing]

Matt was so in love with Lickity! It was an absolutely beautiful boat. How lucky you were able to get aboard and see it.

[@andersonautomotive]

@@MJSailing Catherine is more of a sailor than Todd but they were both still pretty new at it last spring. She told me they sail 1-2 knots below apparent wind speed pretty much all the time. On a boat like that you need to practice how to slow it down more than how to go faster.

[@andersonautomotive]

@@MJSailing and my favorite quote from Todd. "We were very close to buying the Outremer, but for only a half million more I can get this".

[@cfewbopmech73]

Hay ya guys I've just come across your channel just getting into your videos on building this new boat I've worked for a couple of boat factory's over my years love working with glass Hay when you do your tabbing you should always put your smaller strip down first then your next layers should always be atleast 50mm bigger each side layed on top thats how you get the strength I've never seen it done backwards like you have there is a great channel in Australia building a huge cat from scratch with vinylester called life on the hulls he is one smart cookie been doing it for 30 years

[@j121212100]

certainly does look like you are putting together somewhat of a performance boat from the slim hull profile.

[@JagLite]

I haven't been to a boat show so I really liked your specific inspection points. I agree completely, a multihull needs to be LIGHT which means no extra trim, coverings, and/or unnecessary parts. They look better with minimal wood trim to me, they are performance boats that are more like a space ship than a wooden schooner. Keep it simple and add lightness! My motto is LIGHT is RIGHT!

[@frankpristov9745]

Using ideas from other people? Indeed why not guys, innovation and imagination is the name of the game. They got ideas from others as well.

[@WMCC240654]

Great episode this week 👍

[@MJSailing]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@davemoulding8799]

All white clean look is the way to go and easier to clean

[@MJSailing]

Love the all white, clean look! It's just going to take a LOT of hours to get those smooth finishes. And I hope we can quickly pick up on spraying the finishes. 🙂

[@johnschieffelin3226]

Enjoyed the tour of boats you liked and will borrow ideas from. When you get to the veneer stage, if you want to keep the interior as light as possible, use English sycamore veneer -- it is a lovely.l light wood.

[@distractiontherapy]

Those square open seats...make one fit inside the other for storage 😉

[@MJSailing]

Nesting squares, I love it!! 😍

[@netpackrat]

@@MJSailing Easy enough to make them folding, too. Or close them up and have them double as both seating and storage for light items.

[@UKHaiku]

Wonderful video! Looks like you had a great time at the show… On a technical level, it left me thinking how will you manage insulation, if you’re looking to insulate, to get the finish you’re looking for?

[@j121212100]

16:01 beautiful job an understatement!

[@yt75009]

Very interesting as always. For what reasons are you looking at cassettes rudders ? Being able to beach ? Being able to change a broken one very easily ? Other ?

[@MJSailing]

Being able to clean a rudder off of crab pot is always a nice bonus, but the main reason I want cassette rudders is for steering feel.... I want a sporty sailing feel. Fixed rudders are often a compromise trying to get a responsive boat, but also keeping a manageable depth for shallow waters. With cassettes, I can keep a high aspect ratio with deep rudders and still get into shallow water when we want. Seems to be the best of the options for us. Matt

[@MaShcode]

The end of that show is the perfect time for a Captain Ron departure. Something to paralyze all the boat snobs. Heheh. You’re so lucky to have the opportunity to build a clean electrical system from the ground up and a nifty performance rigging system instead of farting around retrofitting an older boat. But to be honest you must also be just a little terrified to get it right the first time.

[@SchmoopsAdventures]

very cool. Thanks for sharing. I love the carbon fiber toilet! go for it lol

[@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665]

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ....😉😎and is a prime trick of evolution. Sometimes the solution your looking for has been done a long time before but just with slightly different materials or detail finishes. Its your home and interest... Insulation is important as done well it works both ways ... and makes a boat livable and reduces mould due condensation...

[@duncan.5228]

Looks like you had a blast at the show. Some great ideas to take with you too. It'll be a while till we see what you decide on.

[@stevethurlow9059]

I remember sailing to the show from Newport and when it was over , leaving for the Ft Lauderdale show

[@MJSailing]

There's just so many of them!

[@yorukkizigeziyor]

Amazing 😍👍👍

[@CessnaPilot99]

What a great show this year, good seeing you guys.

[@joekerska4640]

The Far Side sisters are EVERYWHERE!

[@randygilmour]

For the charging, solar, and lithium end of the electrical, reach out to Nigel Calder. 😎

[@richardgooding498]

Like the idea of looking around for the best for your boat and your sailing needs. Great build you two. 👍👍

[@stevedunford7632]

Following your minimalist thoughts I noticed that HH has all exposed hinges and latches which would make things much easier to do.

[@evangatehouse5650]

When I built a lot of my catamaran interior I used the same yoghurt container as the radius for every cutout in bulkheads, locker doors etc. But probably should have 1 small for small panels and 1 large for large cutouts in retrospect.

[@Fordlighting502]

The Outremer had busted area outer hull side at shower wall. Can't post pictures here. I posted pictures in the Okellys FB group and had discussion. It didn't look good. The rep was saying how much stronger boat was than any other at show. I asked about damage got short reply damage taken during hurricane while sailing that knocked boat 30' sideways and pushed outer hull inward. But rep stuck to story the hull was sound. Did see you guys at the YT sailing both as passed by. Looked busy.

[@robthompson7174]

We are are a little ahead of you in the build cycle on our cat, and was wondering if you've come up with which glue or bog you'd use for putting the laminate on the foam for the furniture? It seems to not be as easy to get the right adhesive as you'd think.

[@MJSailing]

Hey Rob. Our furniture panels are foam with fiberglass already applied to the core. Are you talking about backfill bog when we decore the edges? Or for the fillets? -Matt

[@robthompson7174]

@@MJSailing No, I meant putting the decorative laminate, like Wilsonart or Laminex, directly on the foam sheet, for doors, cabinets, etc. I've tried a few glues on test pieces, but not entirely happy with the result so far. The glue bond to the foam is poor (can lift or peels under high humidity) and no way I'm using contact adhesive with large sheets. Probably will use a thickened epoxy bog under pressure or vacuum bag it several sheets at time. BTW I did experiment with using bog in just an oversize hole for cabinetry fittings/screws etc, and that is quick and works well. No need to de-core the foam and put in a shaped wooden insert plug. But higher loads like deck hardware I got the best result using 316 stainless helicoils from Recoil into tapped oversize hole with epoxy and glass fibers mix. Very good strength. I decored with bent nail in drill beyond the edge of the top skin glass before filling with the epoxy so the plug is "held" by the top skin of glass, if that makes sense,

[@MJSailing]

Were you trying to adhere the laminate directly to foam or to fiberglass skins of a composite panel? We're using a wood veneer - not a high pressure laminate, so need to do things a bit different. I think we'll use clear epoxy with vacuum bag to apply the veneer. This is typically done without filler. -Matt

[@robthompson7174]

@@MJSailing Laminate on plain H60 foam. But also some wood veneer on highlight areas, but that's easy. We have a product here in Oz called Titebond which is great for wood veneers. Getting the plastic laminate to stick is the issue but I think you're right to stick with epoxy (pardon pun).

[@lancer2204]

14:39 Interesting to see this. Some people got stuck into Colin from Parlay Revival about using dynema in his steering to replace worn out steel cable.

[@MJSailing]

We replaced our Edson cable with dyneema a decade ago in our Sabre. KZbin comments sections aren't the greatest for up-to-date information on boats :). Matt

[@JordanNiks]

Out of curiosity why not use Aluminum for the cabinets/storage/etc, anodized can be pretty much be any color, it’s light, resistant to corrosion and can still look modern and clean.

[@tduenchan]

You could use the Dji zenmuse gimbal cameras. They have great image and gimbal stabilization so it would be great if you could mount them in a way to capture your trip at more racing speeds.

[@jamesknape2883]

For interior surfaces artistic vinyl wraps could really jazz up a simple interior. Also the front liner fabric Corsair used on it's earlier trimarans is super easy to install, super light and velcro sticks to it. Now fabloc makes a similar product. A Corsair dealer may tell you where to source it

[@z_actual]

I guess you didnt see any rubber bulkheads in the cats then I made the difference in eye height at 400mm (whats that about 1'4") but you are right, a staged salon seat means better use of the depth of glass, or even a reduction if you go at it. Also lower seat heights are inevitably more comfortable and allow people to stretch out. Are you going to run tints on your glass?

[@maxdouglas2828]

I'm hoping that was a reference to the Frasier antiques roadshow episode :-P

[@MJSailing]

We love that drinking game!

[@gingin21jr]

Getting ideas is always good

[@SustainableSailing]

Presumably you feel the foam core provides enough insulation. We have had to strip out 44 year old headlining but are adding closed cell insulation and will need to fit a lining but definitely not vinyl as it has such a terrible environmental impact.

[@seahaul6225]

Great video guys, we really enjoyed the video along with your insight. Your ideas on fairing the hulls definitely makes sense, even if you were to cover it. What will you do about insulation though? It won't matter in warm climates but do you no longer plan to visit colder climates?

[@MJSailing]

We do hope to get the boat back up to the UK and potentially the Baltic. No insulation in the boat though (too heavy). I don't think we'll be make it up to those kinds of areas out of season, and we'll of course have a heater installed to make things more comfortable.

[@RachaelSA]

Lots of good boats are made in South Africa.

[@MJSailing]

Agreed!!

[@Eagleburger90]

I am stealing those ottoman part cubes.

[@michaelcanto6175]

So my take away from this discussion is that Function, Durability and Lite weight materials are the bane of your build, the question is can you do this while maintaining the visual quality and a feeling of comfort?

[@SteifWood]

The Scandinavian IKEA-style interior on the Kinetic is all well and good. However, living and sailing in Scandinavia I truly appreciate some extra "padding" to the hull/deck, mainly bcs of insulation/condensation in our shifting cold weather (even bellow zero temps when I decide to leave my sailboat on the water over the winter). And I assume this also would be better in warmer climates with less need for A/C. In addition, wouldn't mor "padding" help with sound dampening, which I understand can be a problems with multihulls?

[@leonscheepers5350]

As the owner, you have the choice of layout and finish. If you want cabin liners, heaters or HVAC, we can tailor make the boat to your specification. We build boats for European clients with these requests.

[@SteifWood]

@@leonscheepers5350 Where are you located Leon? Switzerland?

[@leonscheepers5350]

@@SteifWood No, Knysna, South Africa

[@richardlamkin6810]

an idea for you. If you raise the lounge seating area, think about putting long drawers that you can put can goods in, or tools.

[@leonscheepers5350]

Yip, like the St Francis 50.

[@garysilver718]

Keep in mind when wiring what’s available today for rechargeable lighting. Spaces where lighting isn’t left on .

[@imscanon]

Are you going to make one of the cabins a workshop that would convert to a sleeping cabin if needed? A workshop would be crazy handy on a boat with as much work as one does on them. Central place for the tools and workbench would be smart. You could even sew in there.

[@leonscheepers5350]

The port aft cabin (shown in the vid as a settee and office) does convert into a double bed. I am sure we can come up with an innovative way to change a workbench into a bed ;) (Builder of Kinetic 54 & 62)

[@skimmerboat]

keep it simple!

[@dansraspberrypisoftwarecla1690]

It was great seeing you guys, I was also stealing idles from the Kinetics while you were. That was one outstanding boat! Saw it Sat. sailing out of the South River also while we were heading out. Watched how it took the waves 3-4" and it sure looked smooth. Will get over to see you guys soon on site.

[@MJSailing]

Wow, that would have been an amazing sight to see it underway. Would have loved to see it! (Or been onboard, haha). Yes, please make a visit out any time you are open. 😊