Cheap Player TRYHARDS But FAILS Even Harder! - Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2

[@blandy8086]

Wow kefla in that thumbnail makes me think of her saying I WINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN bassed boosted idk why just me

[@_TheRealEcho]

*cough cough* Kamehameha...*cough*

[@blandy8086]

@@_TheRealEcho the thumbnail

[@carlaharris5196]

I WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNN Basically the whole fight against UI is just a typical protagonist getting agitated because of his freinds or family then he just goes mui yea yea yea you already know smh

[@haydenanderson2228]

@@carlaharris5196 tbh go ki could’ve beaten kefla with ssb if he hadn’t fought jiren first

[@TyrantsRemedy]

I didn't expect to see you here Blandy

[@punchy__ii4042]

Triizag: *actually respectful and says good game* “We've had our fair share of enemies, trust me. But, I don't think that you're one of them.”

[@shane1840]

What quote is that from?

[@murfers]

@@shane1840 Goku to Broly in the DBS Broly movie

[@evoction9049]

If ranked players said that to me,I wouldn't be getting milk for the 5th time

[@blackcatbanonzai692]

2:37, now that is one of the only wholesome moments, saviour it guys, you won't see this again anytime soon

[@trashygamer7014]

the funny thing is only the ones who gg are the ones who aren't cheap

[@dogofwarr]

Steed just logging on: Trash players: *Why do I hear boss music*

[@elitedonut1089]

Cringe

[@strings491]

@@elitedonut1089 Ok EliteDonut

[@elitedonut1089]

@@strings491 ok strings

[@taqnl]

@@elitedonut1089 Ok *EliteDonut*

[@elitedonut1089]

@@taqnl ok dogwater

[@zaydsnaynay6736]

7:41 really good choice to pick catch me as the background music I love it

[@2xnyny]

All the memories from sonic riders zero gravity 😭😭

[@danonprime4699]

7:25 i cant get over this clip do perfect 🤩

[@incitossol]

That last fight: Oh GuYs PeRfEcT bLoCkInG tAkEs SkIlL

[@Marsuru1]

Nonsense. It’s Xenoverse. There no such thing as skill.

[@carlaharris5196]

@@Marsuru1 Basically the whole xv2 online is just people calling themselves skilled because they can vanish LITERALLY the whole fight and ki stun

[@LysFGC]

it depends on the way you do it, the way noobs do it (block mashing) makes it a 50/50 chance of perfect block (5 frames perfect block window, 9 frames before being able to cancel block so 1 frame later you are blocking again) but block mashing is very vulnerable cause you could just double ki stun to counter it and go to their back (can be a bit more than 2 sometimes) but yea i agree it's becoming pretty rare to find actually good players that can perfect block consistanly without it

[@eritoxv267]

@Incitos Sol he was my friend we were doing a endless for fun until Steedoj had to fight him, he can only blockmash because he hasn't learnt how to even perfect block yet. I also fought him but lost, only one of us won against Steedoj.

[@Zeral__]

The game takes skill to play without playing like a bitch like guard spamming or playing overly passive

[@BevinEG]

Timid players: Catch me if you can. Jet: Am I a joke to you?

[@JahovasFitness]

If anyone isn't aware, the reason why that goku recovered from being stamina broken so quickly with 9 bars is due to the custom mentor Goku having Tech type B stats. It's like a neutered version of Blueku's stats but stamina break recovery is super fast like he has Rosé Goku's super soul.

[@veinslay4844]

9:24 Hold on Guys... I need to go to the bathroom a minute, this thing makes want to puke.

[@theangrywig3905]

If I ever decide to play Xenoverse PvP and see someone do this, I'm just gonna stand there and do nothing to see what happens.

[@carlaharris5196]

Lmao button mashers tryna keep his quote on quote tryhard ego safe

[@brandonhawker6597]

10:21- 10:43 The moment when you realize that you have block mashed too hard, and you need to stop.

[@JeezyTv]

Kefla got me feeling some type of way

[@capybara9521]

Rule34

[@abder200]

That intro was pretty sick: jiren basically said "Nah man my fist is stronger"

[@nagatheenderknight9654]

To answer your question, POETIC JUSTICE. His salvation became his downfall.

[@sirEthereal]

Ugh I remember the days, the press circle before we do anything

[@MichaelOyewole]

You hate to see it

[@brandonhawker6597]

If only those days were a memory. But, nope. It still happens. Everyday. Almost every match.

[@triizag]

Okay, I understand why I receive a lot of messages since this morning. I discover your channel and i subscribe with pleasure. Honestly, I won because at 1:10 he can break my stamina but he didn't ! Steedoj, if you see that, GG again, and I'm ready anytime for a revenge ! 😁✌️

[@temp4743]

Hi 1v1

[@triizag]

@@temp4743 Yeah why not, send me a friend request ! My Psn is TRIIZAG- , I guess you saw it in the video

[@iTzAce44]

Dawg you hella good Fr

[@kazmii233]

You’re good af bro

[@twinodoom]

He should've went for the head

[@gantz22ify]

7:40 “Sonic the Hedgehog is a good person now!”

[@blackwarrior1897]

That Bardock is so doo doo juice it's not even funny

[@gp34555]

The first fight : OF COURSE!!!

[@InfiniteEscuro]

YAS, finally more Kefla time! Seeing her in the thumbnail is like a present every time.

[@c7kelijxh]

Player: does random thing Steed: and I took that personally

[@brandonhawker6597]

Steedoj: See, I was just chillaxing in my room like a baller. Then these schmucks kicked down my door. One of them yelled out, Cheap Players: I'm better than you. Steedoj: And I responded with "Jiren"... And they took exception to that. *Cheap Players use every Cheap tactic.* Steedoj: But we all know how that song and dance goes. And then I killed all but one of them. Steedoj YT Community: What happened to the last one? Steedoj: It's funny that you thought I was serious about there being a "last one".

[@explosion1323]

The first guy was so nice

[@metrihunnit]

I haven't played Xenoverse in almost 3 years, but is it just me or did that bardock have a peculiar amount of health?

[@brandonhawker6597]

They introduced custom mentors. You can change their skills and stats.

[@joshuacruz5208]

Hi, I have a,question for you. I wonder if you know how multiplayer is on steam? I wonder if its as busy as it is on console.

[@Galaxy-Umbreon]

Super saiyan thick kelfa

[@DayIX]

Riders: Zero Gravity had some bangers for no reason whatsoever.

[@JauntyVampire]

“Next time, I will have my pudding...”

[@sirius_solaris]

7:33 Jesus man you fucking destroyed him

[@lokozit07]

Want a rematch with that first zamasu player !

[@lesvideosduboncoin506]

Loko Zit why?

[@triizag]

Anytime he want ! 😊

[@technicalvids3137]

0:22 this guy sidestepped and vanished 4 times throughout the first 6 seconds of the match...

[@lesvideosduboncoin506]

Still Here and? It like say to a call of duty player , you shoot , it's obviously basic

[@technicalvids3137]

@@lesvideosduboncoin506 it's obvious that the dude is trying way too hard for the very start of the game is what I mean

[@LysFGC]

@@technicalvids3137 it's just basic movements I don't see what about it makes him a tryhard

[@elpapumaspapu8200]

@@LysFGC stepdashing makes you literally invincible, this guy on the first match ki stunned and dash spammed every millisecond, he of course is a tryhard

[@LysFGC]

@@elpapumaspapu8200 ki stuns done the way he did it only slowed him down more than anything, as for dashes it's not for the immunity it's for movement that you use it (the way he did at least), as for saying he's a tryhard, I mean yea he plays the game a lot but I wouldn't say he's a tryhard either

[@Zeral__]

Someone actually played Golden Frieza without relying on EDB for a win. I mean you used it but when it would’ve been kill range for 99% of ultimates so it’s not cheap.

[@joeyworldtour8870]

It ain't cheap, just because u can't play against someone who uses it doesn't mean it is.

[@Zeral__]

@@joeyworldtour8870 i’ve beaten people who used it but when someone uses it with full ki in pvp while you’re still at full health or at least 2 bars of health, it tends to be cheap because of the fact that it lasts long and deals ridiculous damage. If you think that move is fine to use just like it’s fine to use Super Kamehameha and other ultimates like it, you’re probably the same person that thinks 3 bar female majins aren’t cheap

[@joeyworldtour8870]

@@Zeral__ It ain't even a common move, and that's why u block it dumbass it ain't hard to avoid.

[@Zeral__]

@@joeyworldtour8870 alright got it you’re a cheese player but don’t like to admit it. EDB on someone without enough stamina to use an evasive is cheap. It’s REALLY easy to get max ki for it. If they vanish behind you and you try a regular backhit or anything like that when they use it, you’re fucked unless you burn stamina and even then there are still builds that make it ridiculously more powerful. If you try to charged backhit them and they’re smart enough to knock you back then use it, again you’re fucked unless you have the stamina for an evasive. That skill basically let’s you set down the controller and read a book while your opponent suffers XD. The skill itself is pretty cheap because it’s quick to use, has high damage, and lasts until you burn through 1,000 ki. Either you’re a cheese player in denial or you’re just trolling

[@tyreepirela2138]

Yo steedoj love your vids I finna eat and watch 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@snipazz4316]

same im doin that rn

[@LeonColvet]

Watching his videos while eating is the best

[@shadowbannedbyyoutube0]

That first guy's Zamasu got drip ngl

[@piiltus]

These games are meant to be played for fun but there are people who don’t understand the fun in games by just getting angry or getting desperate.

[@neptune9647]

10:22 Free Slowed Down Kefla Moan-

[@Sergio-le7nz]

Most of em rlly acting like they in a grand world tournament

[@lesvideosduboncoin506]

Serujio they play at the game and open your eyes, all of this match are in ranked not friend match

[@Sergio-le7nz]

@@lesvideosduboncoin506 I know. Don’t mean you gotta sweat so much that ur gonna get money if you keep winning.

[@lesvideosduboncoin506]

Serujio ranked match is for serious fight Friendly match is for fun match

[@punchyboi6915]

2:05 hey it's my theme!

[@neonvoidstorm6053]

A laggy game of FighterZ is more fun than playing against randoms on Xenoverse 2.

[@redspiral5788]

No its not tf

[@elpapumaspapu8200]

I'd rather playing with cheap people than playing in a first to hit wins game, that's basically ranked of fighterz, you have no way to recover out of an infinite other than an opponent miscalculation or lag, I quitted fighterz because the games ranking made me sick full of tryhards and I can't literally do anything, I only play offline or with friends

[@LysFGC]

@@elpapumaspapu8200 there are no infinits in fighterz you know

[@chrisjones4346]

Kefla is one of the main characters I play with it good seeing steedoj play with her if i learn from how he plays with her I’ll be unstoppable🙂

[@joeyworldtour8870]

Not really, he's below average with kefla. There are way better players out there I'm sure that know how to play her.

[@lewdlamia9633]

MORE RED POTAR!! MORE RED POTARA!! MORE RED POTARA!! MORE RED POTARA!!

[@joeleonhart559]

So we not gonna talk about that Bardock's insane amount of health? Ok

[@imp173]

The first battl looked like fun

[@King-Beezy]

Mans tried to ki stun hella times in 1st match

[@lesvideosduboncoin506]

xKingBx not a problem

[@Gorjak13]

you have to respect and expect ki stuns, that means you dont put your self in a position where you can get ki stunned, if they vanish, they will ki stun you if you back hit. if you vanish, they will ki cancel and avoid you, if you whiff.

[@Lightning-ji5zb]

I feel bad for the Bardock he got his head caved in.

[@dezser3324]

Bruh these are some some real sweaty fights and they're really intense(From a trash player like me perspective)

[@darnelldyson4590]

Like wise bra 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@ZeroONeal]

That goku reminds me of a vegito i 5 streaked him and all the did was block spam first game in several months btw guess adepting is an anathema to this community

[@dylanwhite3777]

I can barely find matches on Xbox is it better on Playstation?

[@Ironslayer2001]

Remember when people played Xenoverse just to have fun?

[@5STARKixvy]

Steedoj exposing cheap players be Like:

[@elpapumaspapu8200]

Those players are nothing compared to what I had to fight, it was a guy on Xbox that was so timid that I can't describe it with words, he spam dashed and used block, relied on perfect block, lagged sometimes when I was hitting him, ki stuns, ki cancells and always uses op characters/infinites/moves, and whenever I beated him fairly the guy got só mad he picked a character like gogeta or cooler final form to destroy me unfairly, I had a lot of pain with that person, he is from Xbox btw, I can give his id

[@lilnewt3037]

your intro is so cool i think

[@darth5720]

Nice 9:25

[@Qxincx]

9:28 nice English steedaddy

[@kachiedits6231]

Who did the elpis art on your profile pic

[@sniper9840]

His block stopped working cause keflas body went through goku so he turned around

[@skytentheknight3294]

*Try something* *what's wrong* oh yeah it's all coming together.

[@bbryan4441]

Ah yes Sliknop and Triizag, 2 tryhards I wish covid should get them

[@lesvideosduboncoin506]

Panda Konnizer you are just a noob XD , go play an other game

[@LysFGC]

So knowing how to play is being a tryhard now?

[@bbryan4441]

@@lesvideosduboncoin506 go back to your useless expose videos my guy, I can see some dust on your channel

[@bbryan4441]

@@LysFGC by "know how to play" you mean know when to press circle ?

[@LysFGC]

@@bbryan4441 ok so about that, i'll copy what i said to someone else

[@atlas4193]

Why can I only use a few maps in 2 player mode?

[@nah8335]

The crazy thing is I have the same load out and the same Sab coat as the goku he just used it cheesy

[@tyladecuis3183]

We need to take back our community

[@maxthebrave228]

I hate block mashers but I just don't know how to deal with them without spamming grab. Anyone got any advice?

[@elpapumaspapu8200]

Try playing timid, as disgusting as it sounds, it's most likely the only way to win without any kind of grab spam, or you should do a full unblockable moveset to use it whenever they block mash, I use the second choice more than the first one, but cheese against cheese is fair game, don't be scared to spam grab if you need to, you have all the right to do it if he block spams

[@elpapumaspapu8200]

And if they call you trash for grab spamming, ignore them lol, they're insulting cheese when they're cheesing too

[@LysFGC]

There are a few ways, don't listen to the guy above, either you double ki stun to go to their back (it will stun them since they are blocking and then dash to the side then ki stun again, then you can confirm and just hit him (don't do that without thinking though because if they don't block you won't be able to confirm and they could hit you so do it only when you know they will block) the other option is just to do a side step vanish and attack them from their backs, another option would be to hold L2 to sprint and a few frames before you hit him go either down or up, then punch, your character will either hit the back of their head or their feet and will go through their guard

[@elpapumaspapu8200]

@@LysFGC what the fuck do you have against me dude, mad I'm giving better advices? Even if you fly to their back, they will still perfect block you, because they have you locked on and they will turn back whenever you do, also ki stunning them twice is not really a bad idea but easily punishable, like YOU said in some comments, ki stunning is easily punishable

[@LysFGC]

@@elpapumaspapu8200 no because it hits them behind their back and it's frame one, that's the same thing you use to counter auto perfect bloc btw

[@shoken4421]

After all that lag and cheese from yesterday steed got a zenkai boost lol

[@manicityfps5150]

Is that elphis in the your new icon

[@toxicbunyyt]

First fight man is hot with cancel and the same combo people do this and calm them selves good

[@jaycaser6gaming927]

Bruh the block smash and god fist 10x kamehameha and still lose i wonder how he feels lise sb dkntyse not even ki cancel lol

[@cluprsidt2267]

I'm debating on getting this game, specifically for offline mods and such. My credit card declined, so before I called I thought I'd get some second opinions before telling my bank about my conscious abhorrent decision.

[@leolionheart3982]

Get the game for its offline content and just fuck around with mods, but if you have friends it’s better if you fuck around with them while you got offline mods.

[@Lotus_Fox]

Also hes way better than he was back then, if you nearly lost to him back then he would drop you now

[@Chillzhouls]

Pro tip nobody knows and I’m a noob and found this out if your opponent does a stamina break on accident teleport behind em and do a stamina break they can’t dodge it or teleport behind u

[@ishkimo3757]

Brachydios them actually kinda fits frieza and jirens fight

[@destinyvgalaxy4099]

are u on the ps5?

[@tastedivinefury2198]

I wonder what this year’s db game will be

[@elevated133]

Power rush in my opinion is the the most powerful ultimate. It literally shreds health

[@redspiral5788]

Because jiren is the sTronGeSt ChAraCteR

[@elpapumaspapu8200]

@@redspiral5788 i know it's a joke, but if we follow your logic, whis and vados would one shot anyone lol

[@haydenanderson2228]

@@elpapumaspapu8200 what r u on everyone knows that appule and navel one shot with ki cancel 😂🤣

[@Ohmydayz9]

Yeah you did good against his cheap tricks

[@XoticXTC]

Wait so jirens back or?

[@StarAsinine76]

Are you on pc? Can we fight?

[@nightshadowm]

I really want to play to have fun, but i don't have any friends that play this game, and the players match or ranked matches seems like the same thing, full of tryhards

[@carlaharris5196]

What's funny is in this game there is literally no such things as tryhard or skilled player because its just a bunch of button mashers desperate for a win just for bragging rights

[@elpapumaspapu8200]

@@carlaharris5196 that's sadly the truth

[@Onepunchmeme1]

I think people try harder when they fight you because you're xnoverse 2 famous.

[@joeyworldtour8870]

I mean not really, people play this game competitively a lot, and steedoj isn't really someone u should try hard against. No point really if I'm being honest.

[@Onepunchmeme1]

@@joeyworldtour8870 Simp!

[@Onepunchmeme1]

@@joeyworldtour8870 I've been in a few matches with him with people I know. They definitely went try hard on him. Steedoj is someone you try to beat because he has status in the game.

[@joeyworldtour8870]

@@Onepunchmeme1 I mean I don't see why he's average if anything, nothing to really take seriously.

[@Onepunchmeme1]

@@joeyworldtour8870 Because we are fans. Not because of his skills but because the content he makes. I knew of more skilled tryhards who made youtube content and didn't any views or subs.

[@namesternion4674]

Can you do another raid boss

[@FatherMoles]

5:18 permission to ddos?

[@7GRANDDAD]

n o

[@lesvideosduboncoin506]

thegamingmoles lol you are so bad at the game, i m sure you loose against my sabaiman

[@darnelldyson4590]

I can't beat anyone if it makes ya feel better lol 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@T-verseTrevor]

Yeah... I hate super god fist too.

[@tevondelano]

I love Steedoj battles but i would love to see him loose without giving an excuse on why he lost. Prime example at 1:55. He lost because of being lazy? They both look like they were trying to win. Come on bro own it. We dont need an excuse everytime you loose. We will still support the content. No one is unbeatable.

[@cdubgaming1257]

They are very desperate to win

[@Bruh-vz5zd]

I just saw goku in real life no cap

[@ek6501]

Did some one Knows how to movement fast like that

[@troi7748]

I... *WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN*

[@horseyhorse9158]

2:45

[@mechaboy0226]

That’s ps4 for u

[@prostrike7341]

Can we just all agree that cheap players are tryhards!

[@Bruh-vz5zd]

Is steed alright first match is so unlike him

[@UltraEpicVids]

What happened to your profile picture

[@nahuj-idi_pr0ducti0n23]

we play uninstallx2 steedoj then steedaddy runs to his mommy!!!!

[@TheMythicalAura]

I almost had a stroke trying to understand what you mean

[@ultimatefightingcontent417]

EVERYONE IS SCARED TO FIGHT ME BUT I DONT EVEN PLAY CHEAP IM THE MOST FAIR PLAYER OF XV2 AND THATS THE REASON WHY IM SO STRONG I BEAT PEOPLE IN RANKED IN 45 SECONDS WITHOUT SUPER ATTACKS / ULTIMATES / GRAB OR LIMITBURST I DONT EVEN KI STUN I JUST USE A LOT KI CANCELS BUT THATS ENOUGH

[@LysFGC]

yet no one knows who you are and you are a random

[@nahuj-idi_pr0ducti0n23]

he is one of my friends and nobody once to fight him because we dont plach cheap like steedoj! no super only combos you uninstall xenoverse steedaddy and run to your Mommy you cheap Player we destroy sou without super like you big N play!!!!!!!!

[@ultimatefightingcontent417]

@@LysFGC sorry dude but the best players of europe know my name and i won at least against all of them couple of times

[@ultimatefightingcontent417]

@@LysFGC check my videos and u can see i beat steedoj in 1 minute with hit and bardock

[@LysFGC]

@@ultimatefightingcontent417 what's your name then? I'm the best EU on xbox and one of the best on ps4 too

[@BlackedOutPlays]

First KZbin: no views 24 likes 50 comments Me: dafau

[@lesvideosduboncoin506]

Triizag XD qu est ce que tu fait la

[@LysFGC]

C'est rare que steedoj mettes ses défaites donc je pense que c'est grâce au message qu'il a envoyé après le match

[@triizag]

WTF, je me fais inonder de messages 😆 Je comprend pas !

[@buffedsans2598]

The comunity of this game is so toxic that the players of thia video are normal. This game have a lot of hackers, grab spamer, ki cancel spamers and spamer block.

[@leolionheart3982]

I usually just play the game for its PvE content and not bother at all with the Online PvP due to the many bad experiences I had with it. Like it’s not that hard to deal with people who exploit the many glitches of this game in the online PvP it just gets very fucking annoying every time you see it. I just do the glitches whenever I play with friends because we just like to fuck around.

[@SoapyBowl]

Lmao that Zamasu literally just spammed ki cancels and won because of it. But sure, they're a fair and honest mechanic and totally don't make gameplay completely brainless.

[@lesvideosduboncoin506]

Soapy Bowl it s fair at 100% in the really good player world nothing to complain about . Just try to play with it and being good

[@SoapyBowl]

@@lesvideosduboncoin506 If your "really good player world" doesn't care about a mechanic where you just brainlessly mash one button every time you make a mistake so you can't get punished for it, that's you guys. I have a problem with it because there have been so many times where the only reason someone can even come close to competing with me in a fight is because they just press Circle. I'm so sick of fighting someone that can just make an INFINITE amount of mistakes and completely get away with them because there is literally NOTHING you can do against people who ki cancel. Most of the time, you can't even just sit and wait for them to attack you because they just ki cancel anyway. It's a trash mechanic and needs to be removed from the game. Unless combo cancels (like square triangles) still exist because I'll admit that characters that can spam those will be literally unbeatable if you wouldn't be able to ki cancel against them.

[@LysFGC]

@@SoapyBowl ok so, you clearly don't know what you are talking about, a ki cancel takes 14 frames to do, on reaction of you not hitting you would react after about 18 frames of hitting your button so let's say you have hit and you use 1 square (10 frames) you would cancel at the 8th frame of you lag (i say 18 instead of 13 because of the input lag and the time your screen takes to render, but that's also assuming that you are at your best and you are really used to it, in average you would do it around 13 frames after the start of the lag i would say, also you need to take in account that a ki cancel has to be charged for at least 3 frames, so that's already about 25 frames to counter it (considering that you had the first 10 frames of their hit to react too so you have way enough time to see it and attack and that's only if done perfectly and assuming he only hit once which never happens because usually you press twice so you can hit confirm because confirming on a first hit on reaction is quite hard) now, that's only if done perfectly remember, even if the guy knew he would fail before hitting he would be vulnerable for 17 frames (this would be dumb because it would mean he knows he will hit the air anyway), now take into account the fact that the regular waiting time of that hit would be 30 frames and you understand that in the grand scheme of things it doesn't really change anything if you fail your punch other than a slightly lower recovery time, btw assuming he does two hits you have about 37 frames to react and counter so im pretty sure you could do it too, thing is they are important anyway because having such a recovery time for a move that is your only way to punch is ridiculous, anyway, with it it reduces that problem to make it about the same time as a regular hit in most fighting games, btw, it also forces you to dash which adds 9 forced frames of dash before canceling it whereas if you just waited for the hit's recovery time you could instanly block or just put your stick to the side to turn, idk what's up with people saying you can't counter ki cancel, of course if he had the time to throw the ki blast, it's too late but the time for them to ki cancel makes them vulnerable anyway, also you can't ki cancel if your opponent blocked any of your punches) Now the situation where ki cancel is the most usefull isn't in neutral tbh like i said above but it's when your opponent teleports, because then you have enough time to react to the teleport and ki cancel which means that you can go back to neutral, (some people say yea but you can just back hit, while it's true that you back hit, that you can use 1 bar to teleport or that you can do a special, this pretty much put's your opponent at and advantage if they teleport unless they have backflip, in my opinion that's what makes ki cancel really necessary because that's it's most important feature, without it you are put at an advantage in neutral for losing it in the first place)

[@SoapyBowl]

@@LysFGC Bruh, you wrote this whole book bringing up frame data and stuff but it's not gonna change the fact that the mechanic is hella brainless. I don't care how many frames it is or anything like that because you can just use a one bar vanish in any situation where you could ki cancel. The game would be way better if you actually had to watch your stamina in order to perform certain combos as opposed to just brainlessly slamming your face onto your controller and instantly pressing Circle when you miss something. I'm done arguing this.

[@LysFGC]

@@SoapyBowl then you would put your ennemy at an advantage for hitting them in the first place, you shouldn't have to use any stamina for winning a neutral exchange this makes no sense

[@randymolina4323]

Hit video?

[@rasav9812]

Yeah kinda sucks people on this game have to be so trash to win I had like idk how many people just go ui Goku in matchs bc they think he’s op and he can one shot you that and like people get some skill they do this thing we’re they will not do shit till you do so they can just back out and get you it’s fucking stupid and it’s not really an affective way to play the game

[@thefunnyguyfromtheburgerki3334]

Am I the only one that hates the constant Zeno voice lines more than the trash players here? There NEEDS to be a way to mute them

[@Joshdagod97]

And they fail