Steel Building Assembly 1/15 - Raising the First Arch

Lifting up the first 3 of 11 arches. It was much easier with 3 people.
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[@brucevancamp4498]

I put one of these up a couple years ago. I used a long 2x4 with a V cut in the end, put 1 bolt in each bottom side and pushed up the top center with ease. I could have done myself, but my father helped me. Once it is up and o ever the ridge, it will stay. Just add bolts and nuts

[@MudRFunR]

Thanks for the tip!

[@USSBB62]

Best video on what bolts look like and other details that no one ever shows, Thanks Guys !

[@MudRFunR]

I try. Thanks for your comment, much appreciated!

[@willbieker4792]

I did a 30x40 with a 17 foot high peak by myself. I bolted the first panel and arch together and stood it up and bolted it to the base plate, then used scaffolding and a 2x4 to slide the roof panel to the arch on both sides and used wire to suport the panels until I got the peak panel bolted for my first arch. After that I just started with the wall panel and worked my way up to the peak all by myself.

[@MudRFunR]

Wow, you are braver than me.

[@8672221]

So glad to know we aren't the only ones who've had trouble. I'd like to see the folks who wrote the manual put one up according to THEIR OWN INSTRUCTIONS! We even had to have parts made because the instructions to the one we THOUGHT we bought, according to the picture they sent, were NOT even close! Glad to have so many friends willing to help! But will never do it again!

[@MudRFunR]

Definitely more work than the building is worth.

[@jeremylloyd4252]

I had the same problem with the salesman lying to me about needing scaffolding and everything else we needed extra. I like the building but I hate being lied to. I used a mini excavator to hold up the first section

[@kam69124]

Well done set of videos. I've done several buildings like this and started another one today. Each one has its own set of variables.

[@MudRFunR]

Thanks. It's comments like yours that keep me inspired! At first, I wasn't going to record any of the building assembly. I'm glad I did.

[@kam69124]

First time without base plates. The book was the same as yours and the anchor plates were a mystery. Videos cleared that up. I've always regretted not videoing my projects. Gotta do it. Thanks again

[@corinneberberat]

Darn it ... I wish I would have found your videos before I bought from Future Buildings! ☹️ We are just getting started and I am already realizing that this was my second worst financial decision I have made (first being my ex-husband 😉). Thank you for your honest videos, and taking the time to upload 15 videos!

[@MudRFunR]

I was hoping these videos would either help someone assemble their building or just not buy one at all. It is too bad that you are getting scammed by this company too.

[@jpwilson1659]

Amen....LOVE my building but what a complete PIA to assemble!

[@gary24752]

Use what is called a gin pole and a support frame for the steel to do this and save yourself a lot of work.

[@daveken42]

you made the same mistakes we did on the first one lol, I know your pain. after the third one we had it down "never again"

[@MudRFunR]

Yes it takes a few sections before things start to make sense. I say the same, NEVER AGAIN

[@ZENIGMATV]

And that's a small one. We just built a fifty foot wide and ropes alone don't work. The pulley needs to be above the top so it doesn't pull the arch downward. Then with the bigger ones you need a spreader bar or else the weight will fold the arches. The manual is full of crap and I'd like to see the factory make a video of the assembly "unedited"!

[@MudRFunR]

For the most part this worked well. Near the end, we had to add a pulley to help lift and not just pull it. I will never assemble one again. Not worth the effort. A pole barn would be better.

[@8672221]

We even had a 'lift' and 6 guys! The manual was written by a 4 year old using tonka toys and legos!!!

[@19stoney64]

Hello up there! Man that looks challenging!

[@MudRFunR]

Challenging is a nicer word than what I've been thinking. When they sell you the building, they make it sound so easy to assemble. Not the case. I could have built a pole barn in less time and for less money. Very deceiving when the salesmen talk. It's all assembled no but still working on the front wall. And a good day to you!

[@edmundochaparro-barriguete1215]

i personally put together all the building together. It took me a month At the end I just got some help to finish tightening the bolts.

[@MudRFunR]

How did you get the arches up by yourself?

[@wadecole3605]

Do you have any video of how you did the forms for the foundation?

[@Bobcagon]

Just found your videos and wanted to say a big thanks for doing that. I am in BC and am thinking about a garage so it was good to find a Canada video . How did it stand up in the snow? That's my biggest concern as I am in the North Okanagan and winters can be harsh. Had 6 feet of snow this winter. What was the total project cost? I think you did good on the build. Your a DIY guy and trial and error beats paying for labour so good on ya. You got results for your labours and that's what counts irregardless of what some sales guy says.

[@MudRFunR]

Thanks for such a wonderful comment! We are in southern Ontario with less snow. I've had about 3 feet of snow on the building in the winter. The building is very solid. The bolts need to be re-tightened. Something that I heard was common after everything settles. If I include the front wall with the door, it cost us over $16 000 to build. That's without any insulation. Personally, I would never build one again. The rounded sides make it impossible to add enough shelving on the sides. The cement cost over $7000 and that's without the cement that has to be added to fill the sides in after the walls are up. The cement has to have deep footings to support the tension on the sides when there is a snow load on it. A pole barn would be similar in price and the cement can be poured in after the walls are up as opposed to the steel building which requires such deep footings. Hope this helps.

[@Bobcagon]

@@MudRFunR Thanks for that.Yes you helped very much.

[@blueputtee]

Easier if you use two panels at a time to start off.It definitely make it stiffer.and then continue. It works.

[@TonyUrryMakes]

Not buying one of these after seeing this! Thanks for saving me money and aggravation!

[@MudRFunR]

Glad I could help!

[@jimji2774]

I thought you did a pretty good job of figuring things out as you went along. I especially like the hillbilly scafolding or whatever you called it. A guy could spend more money on the lifts and things to get one of these up than he paid for the building . I actually prefer putting up a grain bin which I did and made into a house. Its actually a lot easier now that I see how hard this is. Less bolts too. Best wishes.

[@MudRFunR]

If you watch some of my later videos, my Jeep is my scaffolding.

[@dustinbaerg18]

Couldn't you just attach a couple of long boards (like 2x4's) to the back of each arch to hold it together, raise it, bolt it to the last one and take off the support boards? Actually, it seems like a kit like this should have some sort of assembly jig to bolt to the arches in a few spots and hold the shape (kind of like my 2x4 idea but better)

[@MudRFunR]

Nothing like that in the kit but it mentions bracing the first one to hold the center up. I didn't because I was able to secure it to the carport instead. The strap across the center steadied it a lot. 2x4's would have braced it better. I'm just not sure if that would have made them too heavy to lift with my makeshift winching system.

[@rytoff1]

the kit I bought had 10 ft long angle for that very reason..however I rented 2 electric lifts and put up half arch at a time and used the lift to pick them up

[@larrylacy5453]

MudRFunR, thanks for the video series. I am about to assemble a 25'x25'x14' Future Building. I purchased it before seeing your video. We'll see how it goes.

[@richardrice3137]

will send you proper instructions on how to safely erect your building if you like. I built my 24 X 28 garage building by myself in a few days without the hassle and safely. I had a friend volunteer to help but all he needed to do was hold a wrench as I tightened the bolts.

[@larrylacy5453]

We got-R-dun last weekend. Few problems. It went much better than I expected.

[@O-cDxA]

Thanks for the videos ! I was wondering if you know what guage steel the metal is. - Thanks !

[@MudRFunR]

I honestly don't recall. It is sturdy.

[@MortandHarley]

You need some ladders for the guys pushing up the arches. They are not tall enough on the ground. And some 2X4's to use as push rods....

[@jeromejacques6058]

Would you have a video of the cement slab set up and pour?

[@MudRFunR]

No, I wasn't home when it was poured, sorry.

[@georgianbayrc6063]

How much did it's cost for the concrete??

[@edwardfarrar4228]

I was about to buy one of these buildings, glad I saw this video before I spent 19,000 .

[@MudRFunR]

I also am glad that you watched this before wasting time and money. Happy to help!

[@TeamHartley8485]

I got one of these buildings bought from “steel building pros” out of VA I’d highly recommend not using them. These companies are just middle men that don’t listen to customers. I asked the salesman for a building with 14 ft side walls. Once I got to assembly they sent me 6 ft side walls and to correct this problem they want another $6-9k I’d suggest building a pole barn. It’s way simpler and customizable. Avoid these over prices carports

[@freddyrod2948]

Your car port is going to look awesome. Have you finished one eyed willie?

[@MudRFunR]

It's 20'x22' and it's all standing up now, but what a pain to set up. So having said that, I have been so busy getting this thing together, no time left for Willie. But now I will have winter shelter for Willie to park in and hopefully get finished.

[@kenskipper8548]

So this is a Future Building from Markham, Ontario ???

[@dieck2004]

are you happy with how the kind of gutter you built into the concrete works?

[@MudRFunR]

Yes it works well. It's more work than it is with the brackets that you can buy. Also, if you ever wish to move it, the bolts are buried under the cement.

[@frankenbeans6930]

gulp. I am about to start one of these projects. mine is only 10x10... hope it is a little easier.

[@MudRFunR]

10x10 can't possibly be quite as bad. Hope you find some of these non-professional videos useful for your build.

[@12vLife]

What brand? is this 16' tall? what gauge? I'm getting 18ga so more rigid should help. how many arches is 50' deep? I'm handy and will assemble all arches before hand. I will do all the ground work, but how many days would you say it would take me (on the ground) and two brave agile street helpers with electric drills and some very tall ladders and a scaffold to assemble? I was quoted $5 a sq foot which is a lot of money IMO.

[@MudRFunR]

Honestly, I'm not sure what the center height is. The wall is 6' high where the arch begins. This was my first time building one of these so I really couldn't guess how long it should take. I wish that I could have more answers for you.

[@baldbollocks]

Thanks to you I will be buying one from a different manufacturer

[@MudRFunR]

Good to hear that. These people are a rip off.

[@therookie5263]

What size is this and what did it cost? Thanks..I’m looking to get a 14’ X 20’

[@MudRFunR]

Mine is 22'x20'. All together with the cement pad and the garage door it cost over $15 000 at the time before material prices doubled. That is for just a shell with no insulation.

[@chrisrent8895]

Thanx

[@MudRFunR]

Your welcome, thanks for watching!

[@bentzfamilybentzbiz5247]

How deep is your concrete? I have one not built yet. The salesman told me because I have baseplate our concrete needs to be 16x16 but others are telling me I need to go 32 inches deep because of frost line.

[@bentzfamilybentzbiz5247]

Also mine is just footing no slab

[@MudRFunR]

@@bentzfamilybentzbiz5247 In the video description (above) click on Steel Building Assembly - FAIL video. It shows the footing before the cement was poured. Hope this helps but remember buildings codes vary. This was built in Ontario Canada.

[@cavalierthompson9743]

What are the dimensions of this building?

[@MudRFunR]

Sorry for the delay. This building is 20' wide 22' long. I ordered an extra section to get my 22' length.

[@tbirdstime1197]

What is the actual inside dimension of your building like the narrowest point the width as you’re standing at the end in the center of it looking down left to right

[@MudRFunR]

I don't quite understand the question.

[@tbirdstime1197]

@@MudRFunR I bought a future buildings kit brand new but it doesn’t have any directions or blueprints and I need to pour the foundation. I have one arch built laying on the ground and when I bought the shed I was told it’s 20 feet wide I cannot come up with a 20 foot measurement that is square and perpendicular, my measurements are 20’4” to the very outside the outside and 19’2” from the inside to the inside. I was just curious exactly what your measurement was from inside to inside it looks like you did a good job setting your shit up very informative. I watched all your videos. Good job.

[@MudRFunR]

@tbirdstime1197 hope it's not too late. I'm measuring 20' 4" outside to outside

[@tbirdstime1197]

@@MudRFunR thank you so a 20 foot wide building is not 20 foot wide on the inside. Have an awesome weekend. Thank you.

[@donaldbrazeau6651]

i cant believe how complicated you built that lol

[@timkahn2813]

i helped a geezer one time .he used a panel hoist he bought at harbor freight .

[@MudRFunR]

That must have been easier.

[@babbeltoff7021]

Need a frame for the section to hold it rigid .

[@MudRFunR]

That is the proper way, I know. We managed without it. Thank for watching!

[@bobbiechavez2990]

What size is this?

[@MudRFunR]

20' x 22'

[@edmundochaparro-barriguete1215]

I bought the same garage, and those liers told me that 2 people would build this thing in a weekend. I would not recommend that company out of Canada.

[@MudRFunR]

Yes they are good at one thing and that is lying.

[@erichemard7066]

Next time bolt sections together to stiffen it up. Fasten a couple of 2x4’s together to make a dead man, raise the sections high enough to get the dead man under the center section and lift the center portion up. The issue was not, having enough people to raise it, but more of failure to properly plan how to raise it. You can’t blame the design or the salesman. If the Egyptians could build the pyramids out of 5 ton blocks, this should’ve been cake.

[@MudRFunR]

I did read it in the manual but managed without it. Even so, we could not finish it in 2 days as the salesman stated. He lied and withheld things besides just what he said. I can't blame the design. You are right. Although the salesman is still an idiot.

[@erichemard7066]

@@MudRFunR salesmen are like politicians, they tell you what you want to hear but have no experience in what they are talking about. Instructions are written by design engineers who assemble these buildings in big open buildings under perfect world conditions. Having assembled a number of these buildings and Quonset huts in the military, i can tell you from first hand experience that the instructions are useless. How we normally did it was assemble two sections together on the ground to give it some stiffness. After standing the assembly up and bolting it to the foundation tray, we brought up each individual piece and bolted them in place. Doing it like this gave you access to the top and bottom fasteners at the same time. When it says two men can assemble it, this is what they are talking about. 1 man on a scaffold assembling and bolting, another on the ground handing up individual pieces and pushing the scaffolding around. From 100’w X 500’l X 30’h, to 20’X20x10, they were all done in the same manner. We tried using cranes and telehandlers...that just added too much time with rigging and slinging. Much faster assembling it in pieces.

[@route66paul]

You need a rolling scaffold to do the job correctly

[@MudRFunR]

Yes that would have helped. Later we used my Jeep as a rolling scaffold.

[@cadman1970]

Must be the same salesmen I had told me how easy it was going to be. Like to have them come show me how easy it is to go together and the instructions are horrible

[@MudRFunR]

Was the salesman from Markam Ontario? If not, that just proves that their sales people all have the same sales pitch.

[@8672221]

YEP Markam Ontario!!! Future buildings!!! TOTAL LIARS.

[@ratlips4363]

This looks like one of those projects that wasn't thought out, step by step. Where's the block and tackle or at least a roller instead of a rope over a beam? Hillbilly manufacturing at it's best

[@bard44]

They lied to you! I have only seen one person raise these by themselves. It was a guy from Alberta and he had all kinds of scaffolding. And he built it one piece at a time.

[@MudRFunR]

Yes, this is a very dishonest company.

[@mikelasko8574]

Yeah the dirty bastards didn’t send blue prints for mine or base plate connectors I will never recommend curvco to anyone

[@Doonit_hard_way_since_65]

Yep, these are a complete PITA. Would have been easier to build a stick building or a pole barn. And when you are all done they are about impossible to insulate (if you are in this cold environment). Great video. This is exactly what they are like to build, don't let the salesman BS you. 2 guys can build in a day, ya, right. Using scaffold really didn't help with the first arch, it's still snake-charming to get that one up.

[@MudRFunR]

Sounds like you've had experience with these so called buildings. Yes it would have been much better to build a pole barn. I have said the same many times. I was lucky to have the carport there to lift and steady the first arch.

[@Doonit_hard_way_since_65]

@@MudRFunR I made the mistake of falling for one too. It sounded like an easy fix to the need for more covered storage. Wow, was that a bad choice. In all reality, it would have been far, far easier to have gone with a pole building, and about on par with the cost/time of building an actual stick building. Overall, property value would have been better off with either of the other choices. Well, live and learn, that is a mistake I will never make again.

[@therabbitswhisper]

I would have returned it.

[@MudRFunR]

Part of the agreement with them was that you only get back half if you return it. (something like that)

[@therabbitswhisper]

that should have sent up a red flag right there. Not much faith on their part Id say. You have more patience than I do. Their two people for assembly turned into four I see. I get annoyed by restocking fees and this is pretty close. Hope it serves you well.

[@MudRFunR]

@@therabbitswhisper I'm not too impressed with the building... wish I would have built a pole barn.

[@therabbitswhisper]

Good to know. Cheers!!!

[@philipwolf3619]

gloves

[@Dennis-ht9cp]

Your whole rig is set up wrong, the first one is the most important.

[@richardrice3137]

one, none of the instructions for the erection of this building are useful. they are stupid, unsafe, require excessively expensive equipment, and too much manual labor. the building needs to be erected one layer at a time and when it comes to the top/final panels, they need to be held in place with a pipefitters crane which also requires the use of scaffolding. I did NOT use any of the instructions from the manufacturer but erected the building by myself using the crane which held the panels in place. erect the side walls first, then the eaves, then the roof panels then the top panels. you must also install the end panels before erecting the upper panels to hold them up while bolting them in place. although I did not video the process, I did take pictures throughout and pictures of the equipment. all the sellers of these buildings use the same erection instructions which are all stupidly unsafe and expensive.

[@mr1rapid]

One person can do it if he thinks about it.

[@MudRFunR]

Anything is possible but I personally wouldn't tackle this by myself.

[@mr1rapid]

You are probably right and rightfully so. It is a lot of work. As a child was the youngest child and youngest cousin. Nobody wanted to play with me so I learned to do it by myself. I'm getting ready to build another one. I think I'll get my nephew to help this time.