Steel on Belvoir Ducks (Dave Carrie Shooting)

[@rohanstebbings3579]

Hello Dave thanks for another great video. We in Australia also face the constant pressure from the antis your passion for hunting and good country living is much appreciated thanks Rohan

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Thanks Rohan

[@bavariasuhl]

its why i moved from tasmania to USA tired of the stupid politicians (and those who vote for them ) ...

[@kellyshepherd5904]

Thank you for giving those airman a proper mention.

[@edwardnersesian1324]

Once again, Dave Carrie never fails to deliver a fantastic video. Fast and furious shooting from the pontoon; a superb left / right double at the 6:10 mark, not to mention a real short retrieve at 6:44! As noted by others below, we've been mandated to shooting steel and non-tox on waterfowl for well over three decades now in the US and the loads have improved immeasurably from the beginning. As you've seen, go up a couple of shot sizes from lead, and if the gun is in the right place the bird will surely fall. Thanks for this one and best regards as always, Ed.

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Cheers Edward - glad you enjoyed it 👍

[@berndb.2110]

Dear Mr. Carrie, what an awesome video again. I am very impressed by the stunning scenery at Belvoir Castle. The drive on the pontoon was amazing, because for me it is hard enough to get some ducks at flat land, but to hit anything on this wobbly raft is just brilliant. Thank you🙏 for sharing it and as always, all the best from 🇦🇹

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Thanks Bernd B I am pleased you enjoyed this latest film on Belvoir 👌

[@MrEMrC]

I think that the cartridge manufacturers have done a great job to improve steel loads, I was particularly impressed with the Gamebore loads - and the quality of their service . Well done on the water! Keep them coming Dave!

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Thanks John Gamebore take some beating 👍

[@christopherpeacock6094]

As always great filming and fantastic shooting brilliant Dave

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Thanks Chris👍

[@robinsoutherland9991]

Another nice little video dave, I’ve been shooting steel from the very beginning of the ban on lead on the foreshore and one thing that I find happens is you’ll shoot birds that don’t give any indication at being hit and will fly on some distance before coming down. I would say this is due to steel passing straight through the quarry because of the hardness of the pellet thus not delivering the impact joules of energy. The cartridges have come a very long way but if you get those birds you know that you’ve hit but give no indication, keep your eye on them a bit longer.👍🏼

[@danhill6333]

A nice change of pace the ducks and a very unique setting on the last peg. I'm a bit green with envy. Thank you for sharing this great experience. Hope you're doing well.

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Thanks Dan - yes the last setting was a bit unique - I’m ok thanks 👍

[@johnwiles3463]

Brilliant shooting Dave! So enjoy your videos.

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Thanks John - are you over this season?

[@osmandosler1000]

you are great shooter as always

[@aeron-mw7ofs]

Great stuff , cheers Dave 👍

[@jerryvincent8402]

Merry Christmas and a happy New Year to you and yours.🇺🇸🎅🏻

[@sevencolours3281]

Excellent film again.

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Thanks 👍

[@adsaccuracy]

Always Quality Dave, Take care mate.

[@fredericsavouray8388]

beautiful dave is magic

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Thanks Frederic 😊

[@georgecameron1240]

Great shooting videos very intreasting in all aspect of shooting fron beaters to gun well done

[@peterlacey5299]

Absolutely fantastic drive there mate. I love watching you guys shooting on Belvoir. I go carp fishing at Belvoir Lakes and Knipton, it's a fantastic site when you lads are shooting. I personally have just started shooting myself and slowly getting into the sport, I'm currently joining Orston Shooting Ground. Only clay pigeon shooting mind it a wonderful hobby and sport. Keep up the fantastic work on these videos Dave 👍

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Great place to be- glad you enjoyed it😊

[@peterlacey5299]

Your welcome mate, looking forward to seeing your next film

[@AliShooting]

What a great place, extremely well shot Dave , I hope one day we can shoot together.

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Thanks Ali - always a pleasure hearing from you 👍

[@shaunjones6049]

Excellent shooting again David, nice to see someone excel in there chosen sport. I think steel shot would be a step in the right direction for game shooting really . I would guess game would be easier to process when shot with steel shot as steel can be detected and removed easier than lead . Getting more game in the diets of none shooting people would safe guard shootings future. My family have been raised on eating game as my wife and I struggled to make ends meet ( as many working people do) .Game made a welcome and cheap / free addition to are house hold. Both my boys were in the beat line at 4yrs old, (sat on my shoulders half the day😀 ) and although they don’t want to hunt or shoot they still love to eat all game as they understand it’s had some quality of life, however short, which is more than can be said for the poor chickens and pigs that are on the list of budget meats. If game shooting is to survive it needs to adapt and sell itself to the masses ,get it on the dinner plates of the public/ cheap/ free range and healthy and game shooting will have a future otherwise I think it’s on borrowed time.

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Absolutely bang on Shaun and well done for bringing your family up so responsibly - utmost respect to you for doing your best whilst working so hard to raise a family ❤️

[@jimhooley3846]

I have enjoyed your videos for many years now. After watching you I purchased a Moruku MK60 GR5 "High Pheasant" from Churchills a few years back. Cant shoot it like you but have fun with it on clays. Those fixed chokes are the real deal! Here in the States weve been shooting "non toxic" shot for waterfowl since 1992. Prior to that I shot lead for 34 years. In my experience steel is good to somewhere between 35 and 40 yards-call it 35 meters. Kent steel is very popular here. Of course you can shoot 3.5" shells with BBB's T's etc., but thats not for me. I find that 1 1/8 to 11/4 oz 3's and 4's at 1350 to 1400 work at that range without unnecessary recoil. You need a good dog as steel does cripple. It penetrates well but does not kill as effectively as lead. I was reminded of the effectiveness of lead when I went to Argentina and shot 11/8 lead 5's on Rosie's. DOA. Very few cripples. These days I use Steel in the bottom barrel and Bismuth in the top, for longer shots. On your high pheasants I think you will end up using high quality Bismuth for anything beyond 40 yards.

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Hi Jim - pleased you enjoyed the film and hopefully you have many more good years with your Miroku!! You are correct with steel it as it’s limitations, as in the film I prefer the bigger shot with the high performance cartridge through 1/2 chokes, have a great season👌 Dave

[@Gonz37]

Great video and nice shooting (many doubles)!!

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Thanks David 👍

[@sabrehohoho7681]

Lovely scenery

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Beautiful English estate

[@theessexhunter1305]

I see those 2 pairs @min 6 Dave.. very nice.

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Thanks bud - there was a couple of nice ones 👍

[@philasbury9589]

Afternoon Dave, beautiful scenery and shooting back drop as ever. Shooting steel 2 and 3 what loads and what choke choice do you favour. Thanks Phil

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Gamebore super steel in 3s and (a not available yet) Gamebore hyper steel in 2s

[@EmpireSafaris]

Enjoy your videos Mr Carrie, any chance of you doing a video on loading for Double Guns

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

we will do something soon👌

[@paulmayfield3506]

Brilliant film Dave, I shot some Eley 4s hydrowad, only at high clays, but they performed very well. Let’s hope they do the business in the field

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Thanks Paul- keeping fingers crossed there’s enough cartridges to go round when it all goes non toxic🤔

[@markbateman703]

HI Dave. The last two beaters days I shot 32 gram 4s Bio Ammo . They worked perfectly. Mark.

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

I think there will be some steel that is capable but it’ll never beat lead

[@mallardcutter7209]

Dave I’ve shot steel at ducks going on about 30 years here in the states. I started with #2 steel then switched to #3 steel about 8 years ago. Can’t really tell any difference at all. Generally shoot with an imp cylinder choke occasionally switch to a mod choke. I try and keep shots no longer than about 40-45 yards max for clean kills.

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Thanks buddy- everything is a work in progress over here as far as steel is concerned 👍

[@larrybassett5559]

Excellent video as always Dave. Curious as to what choke constriction you were using?

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

1/2 1/2

[@larrybassett5559]

@@DaveCarrieShooting excellent, thank you sir, keep up the good work!

[@greghoisington9346]

Dave another great video and you can come over here to the states and shoot out of my duck boat anytime you want

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

I’m heading over to the states when I get chance with camera crew probably do a tour of the wildfowl and quail hunting areas👍

[@pedrojsanchezalvarado5569]

Bellezas de cazerias amigos saludos

[@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069]

NOT TOO PASSIONATE 😡😡😡😡😡 cant do it ,,,,,,,,,nice film mate 🍺🍺

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Mmm our great cultural shooting heritage that me and you grew up with buddy is no longer here😩

[@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069]

@@DaveCarrieShooting Air rifle pellets as well now mate ffs , I like Blackpowder shooting as well ,try doing that without lead , it's got FA to do with the environment, you know as well as me it's to make people give up shooting, then the guns go with it , shooting and fieldsports are far too British it doesn't fit in with modern England, you've only got to watch the telly to see what's being planned for this country, and living in Kent I can go down to the coast and witness it 1st hand

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

@@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 writings on the wall mate old Enoch will be laughing his socks off

[@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069]

@@DaveCarrieShooting His warning could of not been more clear and above all Absolutely 100 percent correct, but the powers that be just wont admit it , I went full tonto on the subject about 2 weeks ago on gun crime in the UK and the statistics behind it on You tube , the video was taken down after 15 minutes, and apparently shadow banned , what does that say , all the best mate , Great shooting by the way

[@colinjohnston5465]

Great film, Dave. I would be interested in your thoughts on the speed of the cartridges compared to my favourite load, Black Gold Game. I am keen to try the unleaded Gamebore option in my Mirokus. We won't be on duck but on pheasant and partridge so shooting 4s and 5s.

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Hi Colin I tried some dark storm 32grm steel 4s and 5s on decent partridge nothing out of range 40yds at most and they worked well - I would only put the 36 3s and 2s on decent pheasant and maybe even 1s on cockbirds (work in progress), I did try the Gamebore bismuth and that is nearly like shooting lead.👍

[@colinjohnston5465]

@@DaveCarrieShooting brilliant, thanks, Dave. I value your opinion. I like everything about the Bismuth but from a Scotsman to a Yorkshireman, the price is brutal. I'm told the tungsten is a great load as well but same again just too expensive for me.

[@TheSpaniel1]

I think that we should be worried about what this new government will do to the sport in general, let’s hope we can carry on for many years to come with whatever type of ammunition we have 👍🏻 great film Dave and thanks for sharing

[@TheDoctor46526]

What choke do you recommend for high duck using steel??

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

@@TheDoctor46526 I used 3/4 choke (my choice not a recommendation) in the new Steel proof Miroku MK game, if you can use plastic the mammoths are good if not the Gamebore biowad 35 2s

[@domj345]

Fantastic video as always Dave! What length barrels are on your Browning Crown?

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

32”

[@itsalongshot7118]

I don't shoot many if any ducks, so didn't have much experience of steel until this year. I've been using steel cartridges in 4 and 5 shot sizes from Gamebore and Eley on pigeons and crows all spring, and i do find they are find up to 30/35 yards, but passed that I wasn't not happy with the amount pricked birds i got, So I patterned then through 1/2 choke from 20 to 60 yards and the pattern told a story, Very thin patterns beyond 35 yards useless passed 40 on a small target like pigeons crows and partridge. I'm reluctant to go for the small shot sizes of 7 shot as i feel they might not have the hit power at longer ranges. Your thoughts on that please. For me pest control should be exempt from the lead ban only used for meat that is entering the food chain.

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Firstly I think you are right on vermin control - I would keep lead full stop!! How far does protecting humans go🤷‍♂️they’ll have you walking about with a space suit on soon so you don’t breathe anything nasty in!! How long do people want to live and why would you want to Live in a future full of fuxking idiot lefty woke wankers - there I’ve got that off my chest😂but I do sympathise with you

[@carlosfuentes1694]

Solo disfrutar y admirar esos maravillosos lugares y su rica cultura..... Saludos cordiales desde mi querido Chile.

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Thank you Carlos I am pleased you enjoyed the film👍

[@Zagros-m6e]

درود بسیار زیبا دسخوش مثل همیشه شکارگاه خوب وتفنگ عالی

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Thanks 👍

[@williamavery9185]

Will a modern side by side be ok with steel ?

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

most of them will be ok with normal steel but the hyper fast stuff in a big pellet will be ok only with the fleur de lys symbol and correct chokes, i would always advise checking the integrity of the gun before shooting any steel loads. High performance steel must be marked as such on the box, and should only be fired through guns bearing the fleur-de-lys proofmark, and usually with the words “STEEL SHOT” stamped on the barrel. If you have any doubt about your gun, seek the advice of an expert gunsmith

[@williamavery9185]

@@DaveCarrieShooting Thanks for responding. I have never heard of a flor de lis mark before. I have saved 200 size 6 lead to use with my great grandfathers 30" damascus barrelled gun. Just for me and my dog walking the woods. Why is life so complicated these days ?

[@michaelmaxwell5586]

Well shot. Were you using Black Gold High Performance steel and if so with what load and with what choke? I think with lead you usually shoot tight chokes but half choke is the maximum for steel.

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Hi Michael High performance 36 2s through 1/2 chokes on the last drive

[@callumcroft730]

Hi Dave what choke did you use when shooting the 2’s and were they high performance 2’s? Thanks in advance

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

1/2 hi performance

[@darellkettley6622]

Looked like another fantastic day Dave. The steel shot to me hasn’t made much difference to your Fantastic shooting .. they were great drives .. hope all well ? see you at the game fair 👍

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Thanks Darell- first couple of drives with 4s were a bit hit and miss as far as lethality is concerned but 2s we’re doing ok 👍

[@reyrey9458]

Anyone got a minute to explain to me how I could go about getting into duck shooting? Always been interested since I was small and I love the idea of a man and his dog going out hunting. I’ve never shot before but I really would love to get started I’m 26 from the north wales area but I just don’t k is where to start as I don’t know anyone involved in the sport. Any help would be amazing thank you!

[@patrickpullen1657]

After being a country sport likening person for the past 40 odd years. Having shot gun gun since a 16 year old. I will be happy to see this type of shooting being stopped. Sorry to upset some of you but a guy on a marsh shooting duck for the plate is the only shooting of duck I could ever support.

[@jacobrans9269]

Just as well no one gives a.shit what you think

[@biancabateman7277]

How much is a day there on the ducks

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

If you contact swift valley sporting off the film- they will be able to give you the information you require👍

[@montanamountainmen6104]

In the US we were made to use steel back in 1991. I disliked it then and dislike it now. Many a fine shotgun was ruined or retired by steel , now Bismuth is better but at $57-$61 dollars US for 25 shells its a tad expensive.

[@duckbrian7973]

We use 70 mm cartridges #2 35 grams all the time. Very good for large ducks and geese. Have to tidy your lead for head and neck placement. Body hits will have birds fall out of sight.

[@hazemeltahawy6113]

💕💕💕💕💕

[@flash.gordon]

Great scenarios and better guns!

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Browning are the best

[@lusitanooutdoorchannel680]

I would use bismuth or tungsten matrix since my guns are not steel proof.

[@NicoRusconi49]

My thought on steel is tungsten.

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Mmm I would concur 👍

[@pedrojsanchezalvarado5569]

🇪🇨🇪🇨👍🤝

[@tristanbrownhill8698]

Think you have just proved steel is very effective with this video. Some seriously long ducks killed there. If you need to go even longer there is Tungsten cartridges. You should have a go wildfowling on the foreshore.

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Thanks Tristan I prefer the number 2 shot 36grm high performance- got some good birds with them, “Steel” hopefully it will get better and better.

[@Danno-kk7gl]

Dave as a man who I believe likes to challenge himself in shooting the tallest birds possible having watched all of your videos, does it not worry you that the days you enjoy so much and get the best sport from, such as Warter priory, brigands and all the well known tall bird pheasant shoots will just not have the same appeal, as them monsters you like to shoot 60 yards plus, are just not going to be killable with steel shot? I also prefer to challenge myself in the shooting field in what I call proper sport and shoot and kill targets further out so to speak, and the thought of having to use steel shot is really making me consider wether shooting will be for me anymore. I have no interest in killing game 30-40 yards out, that’s not sport in my opinion. Best wishes Dave and keep up the cracking videos.

[@DaveCarrieShooting]

Dan86 - its a shame when we have to switch from something that works to something that might do the job!! its the only way of an explanation really as we all have our doubts on steel! the sheer cost in shifting totally to steel is enormous for the shooting industry and the shooting community alike!! we live in strange times with even more stranger people - i will endeavor to push my self and the equipment/loads to the limit of mine and their capabilities👍

[@Danno-kk7gl]

@@DaveCarrieShooting appreciate the reply dave. I suppose the proof is in the pudding and we will see how well technology and manufacturers can improve steel to the best of its abilities. I’m not convinced myself but time will tell. All the best and keep up the videos 👍