Steering control module for MK5 Golf GTI

[@gavinfisher8049]

Hi there .. a great video and like the mk6 MFSW on the mkV also.. I'm doing a mk6 GTI with paddles on my MKV jetta which has the AQ CONTROL module like yours has.. Will that control module run the mk6 MFSW with flappy paddles gears or do I need the CD control module.?? Is the mk6 cluster and easy swap too as I would like to use the extra functions on the display with the mk6 MFSW?? . Keep up the videos they are very good...

[@MatthewTaylor3]

Read this: wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Steering_Wheel_Control_Module_Versions Your "AQ" control module is for MK5 only. You need to get a module or one that supports BOTH the 1.3 and 2.0 protocols. Your AQ module is a Highline module, but it only does the older MK5 DDP protocol. It doesn't support the newer 2.0 BAP protocol. This is why you need a module that does BOTH protocols. When you use your MFSW to change something on your radio, you are actually using the MFSW to instruct the instrument cluster to in turn instruct the radio to make the change (hence the need to support both protocols). Since you have an "AQ", you wouldn't buy a CD module as I did. I changed my steering rack to another one years ago. You should buy a "CH" or "CK" to maintain your steering angle sensor being inside your steering column itself (instead of the steering rack). The MK6 Cluster is a technical one. You need to know the secret PIN of the MK6 cluster you are buying and the one in your car currently (add a leading "0" if you have a 4-digit PIN). If you don't know either PIN, then you would have to do what you see me doing in my video of getting a copy of a tool like AVDI and placing BOTH clusters in "Service Mode" to extract these PINs. In either case, you NEED to make a new key for your car (or at least write to a new Megamos ID-48 transponder pill as the transponder in the key belongs to the instrument cluster itself and can't be reused in any other vehicle). To key the donor cluster into service mode, you have to "delete" the IMMO data from a specific address in the instrument cluster (which you will have to take apart to read the EEPROM inside with a programmer). You would then install it in your car (using a 32-pin wire harness you buy online), place the cluster in Service Mode, then overwrite your original VIN, MAC, CS, and Power Class (that you would have also made a note of from your old cluster). You would then at this point, pair a new key (transponder pill) to your cluster. SAVE, exit Service Mode, so you can start the car without issue. This took me two days to do on my car as I was not mentally for several key steps that I missed out on in the process. If you kept the MK5 steering wheel with the MK6 Cluster, then you can't access all menus of the MK6 cluster as you have only "8" MK5 buttons as opposed to the full "12" in the stock MK6 MFSW.

[@gavinfisher8049]

@@MatthewTaylor3 thank you for the technical info. Seems like alot of work to make the mk6 speedo cluster work . I think I will be happy with just the MK6 MFSW from the MK6 GTI. Ok the CD is if there is NO angle sensor on outside steering rack. CH AND CK are showing WITH angle sensor but CK has a #2 in the notes... Not sure on difference between CH &CK?? looking at my control module underneath there seems to be 2 connections at the FRONT of the control module one furthest forward surrounded by white connector housing and one on the left both seem attached to the clock spring. Am I right in saying the one on the left is the angle sensor so I would need either a CH OR CK module for the mk6 GTI MFSW?? Wish I could ad a picture on here. 😒

[@MatthewTaylor3]

@@gavinfisher8049 You are correct about the "manual transmission only" portion that I forgot to mention. You are now limited to only one option now (to keep the paddles working for shifting). I had replaced my steering rack (that died with one that happened to also have a steering angle sensor in the rack itself, so the CD variant worked fine for me (after turning off the steering angle sensor in the CD module itself). I recall seeing other forums where folks use the CH and CK units without issue on DSG (despite note #2). Any Yellow plugs you come across is strictly airbag-related. You would be correct about the connections at the FRONT of the module. For this reason, you are looking at the CH or CK module to have all the pins you would possibly need for full functionality. I assume you already have the Revision "C" clockspring since you have the AQ module. When I compared to the stock AQ module with the CD one, I realized that the difference to the naked eye is just a few pins are missing as with a few items on the board

[@gavinfisher8049]

@@MatthewTaylor3 I found a mk6 cluster from a 2010 Jetta MKV.. about the secret pin.. * do I definatly need the ignition key to take the transponder out or can the secret pin from both clusters be found using VCDS ? *Have a friend with a VCDS program just hoping we can get the new cluster going. There is a few on ebay for sale but would need to ask for a transponder pin? * If I have both pins from VCDS I can use my original ignition key, it just gets coded by the VCDS? * 5K0 920 870B would be the correct cluster part number?? thanks again in advance for sharing info it's exciting to learn...

[@MatthewTaylor3]

@@gavinfisher8049 ​ @Gavin Fisher I should have resonded to you from Friday. For security reasons VCDS does NOT reveal your actual PIN to you. VCDS does however allow you to pair known PINs that you have found otherwise. You need the ignition key for your existing car to easily place your stock cluster in Service Mode using a tool like AVDI (or a cloned copy of the application). For the donor cluster, having the key would make the process easier for you, but if not, you would have to take the cluster apart, read the EEPROM (and save it on your PC for safekeeping), then delete the immobilizer data, reassemble, then electronically place the cluster in Service Moe using AVDI. Having both PINs beforehand would allow you to pair and reuse your existing key with the new cluster, otherwise, you need to order a blank transponder pill. The cluster part number you provided is a good Highline one for a petrol engine and metric units. Of course, you will use the bezel of the 2010 Jetta faceplace including plastic lens, but use all of the MK6 electronic interior including needles and guages. Note, you WILL lose the "chrome" rings around the two circular gauges if you go this route. You can get other numdered circular faceplates that have the chrome bezel around it for an OEM look. The best appearance in MY opinion is to go for the Scirroco R instrument cluster. That would be a perfect fit for the MK5 GTI maintaining the 2 transparent plastic rings and also retaining the modern MK6 look and eye candy features. I'm going to do this swap next, BUT finding a Scirroco R cluster is more difficult and expensive than finding gold (even on eBay).

[@rysoox2106]

Hey dude, i have a left hand drive golf mk5 from 2008, one of the last generation of it and i have by manufacture multifunction steeringwheel but the previous owner changed to steering wheel control module from 1k0 953 549 BK(which is the original one) to BC, now the problem is that BC does not support multifunction steering wheel and someone said that instead of buying an BK because its expensive i can buy an AQ and use it with that but wouldnt that affect some of the working commands? I have the manufacture one BK and it has an higher version than the AQ, Quick Mention, my mk5 is litterally full option, so i need to buy BK if thats what the car comes with right? I shouldnt downgrade to SW 0070

[@MatthewTaylor3]

Thanks for your query. I'm going to check Ross-Tech' chats and answer your query in a few hours.

[@rysoox2106]

@@MatthewTaylor3 ok, thank you, anyways i bought today an original BK module for like 300 euros cause i couldnt find it used in my country, but i will still love to hear an answer=)

[@MatthewTaylor3]

@@rysoox2106 You could have also bought: "BG", "BP", "CH" or "CK". The "CH" and "CK" variants would give you the ability to install an MK6 Golf / Jetta MFSW to also fully control a MK6 Jetta/Golf instrument cluster if you retrofitted one in. I did this in another video.

[@rysoox2106]

@@MatthewTaylor3 no u miss understood me, my mk5 steeringwheel doesnt work because the previous owner changed the BK which is the one it comes with by manufactuere to a BC and BC its a midline that doesnt let me recode the steering wheel, i didnt want a retrofit =)) i asked if AQ gives me the same thing as an BK because AQ was cheaper, my car comes with a BK from fabric so i wasnt sure if AQ worked since it has SW 0070 and BK 00100/00101

[@rysoox2106]

@@MatthewTaylor3 oh sorry, i havent read it correctly, u responded properly to me but the main question, is AQ good instead BK if my car came with BK from fabric (i m not gonna change it to AQ, like i said, i ve already bought an BK, but my wallet cries now =)))

[@aliasgaramirali323]

If i replace my steering wheel module, with a new one. Will i need code the new steering wheel module and then code the cruise control? or is the replacement for module plug and play then code cruise control. i am afriad after changing it ill get problems since i put a new module!

[@MatthewTaylor3]

You will need to code the module (#16) with the same coding your old one had. Physically, it is plug and play, but since the new unit is a virgin, or not on that car before, it would need to be coded to include the cruise control functionality. If you have the cruise control stalk installed, but not coded, then your rear wiper will not work, and you get a fault code for it. The rear wiper washer fluid motor will also not work as well.

[@aliasgaramirali323]

@@MatthewTaylor3 do you know how I can code it?

[@MatthewTaylor3]

@@aliasgaramirali323 this can be done with a VAG- compatible tool like VCDS, OBDeleven, ODIS, VCP, Autel, etc.

[@diegoj29]

​@@MatthewTaylor3Hello, I have a 2008 Golf and the steering wheel module was not working with the onboard commands and horn. I bought an used one with same codes but when I plug it onboard commands and horn works but steering assistance is not working. I understand that I need to copy the codes from the old module.to the new one, right? Do you have any guide to do this? Thanks for your help!!

[@MatthewTaylor3]

@@diegoj29 Which VAG compatible diagnostic tool are you using? You need to interact with 2 modules: 16: Steering wheel control module 44: Electric Power Steering You need to determine (from your old module if the steering angle sensor is (rack or steering column). You also need to do the "basic settings" to do the adaptation. These steps are specific to the VAG tool you would be using, so I can assist you.

[@mamun2]

Hi would like to know if i can use a steering control module from a mk5 gti on a golf mk5 fsi. Tq

[@MatthewTaylor3]

Yes. This is independent of the engine type. TFSI vs FSI doesn't not matter. I'll post a response to your question with a RossTech link to what modules you can swap and upgrade to. I finally did a MK6 GTI steering wheel upgrade and Golf R instrument cluster swap since this video, which I'm yet to upload.

[@gjorgjijovanoski4485]

HELP :) I put new Steering control module 1K0-953-549-AQ (old one 1K0-953-549-AF). I check the slip ring it *type 2* 1K0-959-653-C. I code the Steering control module in my case 0003022. I run the car. Steering wheel buttons work perfect but ESP , and power steering dot want to turn off. I try to calibrate angle sensor with wheel rotating full left, right and beck to center but nothing happens. I get VCDS error I clear them but they are coming back.. 1) 02546 - Steering Limit Stop 005 - No or incorrect Basic Setting/ Adaptation 2) 00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 005 - No or incorrect Basic Setting/ Adaptation 3) Abauth ESP I dont scan it I dont know the error

[@aliasgaramirali323]

did you fix it? i am going to change tommorw!

[@vagen16]

Greeting I have a problem with the Golf 5 1.6mpi (BSE) 2007. Something is draining the battery. When I pull out 2 fuse (fuse at engine). I found that fuse for (Steering column electronics control unit) or (Steering column function control module) Please help

[@MatthewTaylor3]

Let me revise something, and get back to you in this regard

[@garthwilliams3666]

Hey, I am in Jamaica and need some help with coding my steering wheel, I have vcds but dont know how to do coding, the history is that i had a failure in my original Steering control module and purchase a used one from Europe as the car was imported from there. installed it and still have tough steering

[@MatthewTaylor3]

When it comes to VCDS, I consider myself the expert with this tool since I use it daily on my car. PM me your e-mail address or contact number so we can link up and get it working. I suspect you made the mistake of buying module as they aren't all the same. They are different between the various ABS modules, and 2WD vs 4WD units. PM your contact info and VIN and we can get it sorted out.

[@garthwilliams3666]

​@Matthew Taylor Thanks for replying so fast and I am happy to know you are a local and a expert, Link me at [e-mail] and we can exchange phone #

[@evanmulrooney5586]

Hi I am also looking for some help coding a steering control module can we pm

[@ivanventura9347]

Need help 2 please i got stering red light on in my stering wheel is hard to turn

[@ivanventura9347]

On mk5 gti

[@DJ_KAYZ_SA]

Hi can a golf 5 FSI steering rack for on a golf 5 TDI 2.0?

[@MatthewTaylor3]

Yes. Just select the right one for generation 2 and 3. You need to know if your existing rack has the steering angle sensor in the rack or steering column, and buy the replacement one accordingly.

[@DJ_KAYZ_SA]

@@MatthewTaylor3 okay and is there anyway can I bypass the power steering because I can't even drive the car it's very stiff

[@MatthewTaylor3]

@@DJ_KAYZ_SA I'm sorry to hear this. I had this issue too, but it only occured when the engine was not running. I don't just mean a lack of steering assist. I mean that my steering rack was completely locked up as though the steering lock was on (but it actually wasn't). Even if my car was coasting forward with the ignition ON, the steering couldn't turn. I don't have an answer for your situation other than resolving the issue properly with a replacement steering rack.

[@dermotricketts7099]

Not vert clear about what you were attempting to establish. To many stops and re-starts, not fluent.

[@MatthewTaylor3]

This was a video for OBDeleven users. The description section of the video is for folks who use OBDeleven, understand what is meant when they see specific instructions for Ross-Tech's VCDS and how they would translate the same steps for OBDeleven. If you have neither tool, then this video would be of no use to you. I could modernize the video, but the folks on the OBDeleven forum already got a general idea. This video was actually recorded for a specific individual, not the general public.

[@MatthewTaylor3]

Looking back over the video, it was recorded in response to an individual's request on a particular forum who wanted to re-code their steering wheel in a MK5 Golf GTI. This video assumes a general knowledge of the software displayed here (based on the particular forum that the request came from).