「Stellaris」 How to Win WARS - In a Nutshell [10/10]

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Stefan Anon

Stefan Anon

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@alexanderormwiklund
@alexanderormwiklund 4 жыл бұрын
I love the smell of burning xenos in the morning
@AlbertSteiner-i7u
@AlbertSteiner-i7u 4 жыл бұрын
Do the fanatical militarists still have the Armaggedon bombing standard?
@WindrunnerB4
@WindrunnerB4 3 жыл бұрын
I love the taste of xenos in the morning, in the afternoon and in the evening.
@guardianoftheglitch428
@guardianoftheglitch428 3 жыл бұрын
how do you want them? We have burned , fried and others
@derdrache0512
@derdrache0512 3 жыл бұрын
@@guardianoftheglitch428 I dont know what he thinks, but plantoids make good salad, the rest is best cooked medium rare.
@PelinalWhitestrake9147
@PelinalWhitestrake9147 2 жыл бұрын
@@derdrache0512 What the f-
@pyro111100
@pyro111100 2 жыл бұрын
Enemy: 500 ships lost, half their planets taken over, every system taken over Result: 5% exhaustion Me: Loses one corvette Result: 80% war exhaustion
@tyzombiecrusher7655
@tyzombiecrusher7655 2 жыл бұрын
Fr tho.
@shallansward
@shallansward 2 жыл бұрын
Very Annoying grrr
@sirgideonofnir6840
@sirgideonofnir6840 2 жыл бұрын
Haven't lost a single ship, invaded every world they have, taken every system. 63% war exhaustion. I've bodied them in every way yet I'm somehow losing the war?
@ReddwarfIV
@ReddwarfIV Жыл бұрын
@@sirgideonofnir6840 Is your enemy in an alliance or federation? Are they at war with someone else who captured some of their planets? What's your war goal? If you actually captured all their planets, the Conquest casus belli would result in you gaining their territory.
@JohnDoe-oh1qr
@JohnDoe-oh1qr Жыл бұрын
Honestly, this game doesn't know it's ass from it's head sometimes 😂
@Kjotleik
@Kjotleik 4 жыл бұрын
So, in a nutshell: EU IV - Fleets are "useless," build armies. Stellaris - Armies are "useless," build fleets. Got it!
@Regunes
@Regunes 4 жыл бұрын
Actually no, Armies are great at messing with the AI brain, and get fleets stuck on orbit. with 2.6 it got harder tho...
@alexanderormwiklund
@alexanderormwiklund 4 жыл бұрын
@@Regunes haha the announcement worked!
@Kjotleik
@Kjotleik 4 жыл бұрын
@@Regunes Hm. I haven't played enough Stellaris to know the AI at all. That's why I watch this series to begin with. I learn a lot.
@alexmannen1991
@alexmannen1991 4 жыл бұрын
ck2 armies and fleet are useless seduce his wife
@bman7346
@bman7346 4 жыл бұрын
@@alexmannen1991 as a woman
@jediarchives7826
@jediarchives7826 4 жыл бұрын
The 4D chess move for subjugation is to join a federation, make the enemy your tributary, and then they'll fight for you like a vassal, while still giving you tribute.
@Animefan1803
@Animefan1803 4 жыл бұрын
"in the endgame stations don´t really matter" "KZbin recommendations: Here watch how lathland builds a scourge zoo with 800k stations"
@madmotorcyclist
@madmotorcyclist 4 жыл бұрын
If you use a mod -NSC2 it allows you to build superstations (up to 750k fleet power) which will hold off even fallen empires.
@Animefan1803
@Animefan1803 4 жыл бұрын
@@madmotorcyclist I know. But Lathland didn´t use any mods. He just played really fucking tall and conquered 2 strategic resource centers. He had like 40 Defense plattformslots on each station.
@SteveBlewett
@SteveBlewett 4 жыл бұрын
During that run of Lathland he acquired THREE Strategic Coordination Centers (One built, one repaired, one captured from AI). He also took the Eternal Vigilance ascension perk which altogether allowed him to build 56 defense platforms on a Citadel. Then add in the boost from repeatable technologies.
@Animefan1803
@Animefan1803 4 жыл бұрын
@@SteveBlewett What a lad
@HazzronIV
@HazzronIV 4 жыл бұрын
@@Animefan1803 Here I thought I was cool for taking three art centers, stupid unity...
@zijkhal8356
@zijkhal8356 4 жыл бұрын
Stefan when starting this quide: "three chokepoints, not really good" Stefan now: "one was a dead end, the other a fallen empire, everything is back where it should be"
@Stefan_Anon
@Stefan_Anon 4 жыл бұрын
The Birb's blessings.
@belovedfollower186
@belovedfollower186 4 жыл бұрын
“War, huh, what is it good for?” “Absolutely anything.” And with that, you have earned a sub.
@jeremy_3977
@jeremy_3977 3 жыл бұрын
Won my sub as well.
@spicyplaysyt7095
@spicyplaysyt7095 3 жыл бұрын
First line I was hooked
@CapitalTeeth
@CapitalTeeth 4 жыл бұрын
>My fleet is at least two times as big as theirs at the start >I conquered more than 9/10 of their systems >I took over all of their planets and killed all of their strongest star bases >I killed just about their entire fleet *_And even then I still have the most war exhaustion_* mfw
@Nancy-mq4uc
@Nancy-mq4uc 3 жыл бұрын
When they fight for their live the AI subish almost not war exhaustion
@josephgoldstein3878
@josephgoldstein3878 3 жыл бұрын
your society *is* exhausted ngl
@oblivion5390
@oblivion5390 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nancy-mq4uc how do i even do that, because for i am always fighting for my life but idk if the game does too
@joaogomes9405
@joaogomes9405 3 жыл бұрын
War exhaustion should not be a thing for ravenous swarms, driven assimilators, determined exterminators or fanatic purifiers. It's fucking silly that a hive mind of biological weapons, machine intelligence network of robotic weapons or society built around warfare and purification can be forced to settle for status quo peace and denied war for 10 years just because the war that has wiped out 20 enemy worlds went on for a lil bit too long and now the emotionless death robots or space bugs are unhappy. It's real dumb and makes those kinds of empires not as fun to play when you can't be doing the thing that your entire empire is planned and built around when you want.
@vaporwavertv6444
@vaporwavertv6444 2 жыл бұрын
Use bigger ships less likely to be destroyed which causes war exhausted so if ur rocking corvettes switch. Corvettes get destroyed so easily
@hiddenmimic3935
@hiddenmimic3935 4 жыл бұрын
My Stellaris playthrough in a nutshell: OH GOD MY ECONOMY!
@Adar_Gorthaur
@Adar_Gorthaur 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who just started playing this game, Your statement hits home.
@molybdaen11
@molybdaen11 3 жыл бұрын
@@Adar_Gorthaur The trick is to specialize your planets and use the energy, mineral and alloys booster buildings early on.
@JoshSweetvale
@JoshSweetvale 3 жыл бұрын
Shouted in agony and extacy, alternating. "I have no alloys and I must scream" "ALL THE ENERGY" "...No power to power the power." "THE BLACK HOLE'S CONNECTED TO THE - FORGEWORLD. THE FORGEWORLD'S CONNECTED TO THE - SHIPYARD. THE SHIPYARD'S CONNECTED TO THE 45% OF THE GALAXY WHO ARE ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THIS WAR. :D"
@molybdaen11
@molybdaen11 3 жыл бұрын
@aaaa You can try to lay an ambush in nebulars (can not see you) or pulsar system (shields don't work there). Other strategy would be to beef up your planets near the border with castles and army's so that the computer can not proceed. Also if you can not win against his fleet - build some fast ships like corvettes or destroyers, move around them and attack the systems of your enemy! Be like water my friend! Edit: typos
@someinternetguy1065
@someinternetguy1065 2 жыл бұрын
Accurate in early and late game, just for different reasons. Early game for obvious reasons. Late game it's more like "oh God, I despise wasting resources but my storage is full and I can't use them fast enough."
@edwardboss
@edwardboss 4 жыл бұрын
Here's my strategy: 1. Do not prepare at all 2. Do not build any ships 3. Make an entirely civilian focused economy 4. Surprised pikachu face when you get invaded 5. Panic 6. More panic 7. Convert your entire economy to alloy production and trade every single one of your ressources for alloy 8. Start defeating in detail with hordes of corvettes 9. Block the enemy inside of your territory with starbases 10. Great patriotic war 11. Annex everything you can 12. Congrats, you are the most powerful empire in the galaxy This is actually how most of my games play out, I never learn to build up my fleet. I'm just too cheap
@igorviniciustrombettadeoli2602
@igorviniciustrombettadeoli2602 4 жыл бұрын
"Enough bodies thrown at a problem will generally solve it" As a human rights student, I cringe. As a Stellaris player, I completely endorse you, my friend.
@kingbubbles9461
@kingbubbles9461 4 жыл бұрын
You see, kill bots have a preset kill limit. Knowing their weakness, I sent wave after wave of my own men at them until they shut down.
@FazeParticles
@FazeParticles 4 жыл бұрын
humans rights is a luxury these empires can't afford.
@felipegdesouza2011
@felipegdesouza2011 4 жыл бұрын
Direitos humanos nao é ciencias humanas? nunca ouvi falar desse curso.
@igorviniciustrombettadeoli2602
@igorviniciustrombettadeoli2602 4 жыл бұрын
@@felipegdesouza2011 Sou estudante de Direito, com pesquisa focada em Direitos Humanos. Da pra dizer que Direito, sendo parte de uma Ciência Social Aplicada, faz sim parte das Ciências Humanas, então não estás errado não.
@FrodoBolsista
@FrodoBolsista 4 жыл бұрын
Dale comunidade Br de stellaris
@j.vinton4039
@j.vinton4039 4 жыл бұрын
I much prefer warfare on a spiral galaxy. Locking down choke points and preventing the enemies reinforcements is so good.
@JoshSweetvale
@JoshSweetvale 3 жыл бұрын
The sword... and the shield!
@AbuKaliAchBar
@AbuKaliAchBar 4 жыл бұрын
I miss the original original peace deals so much. I can liberate, flip ethics, take systems, demand war reparations, and humiliate all in one war. Additionally, though I should post this one the diplomacy video, the ability to sell my technology to other factions. Pretty much you offer a research agreement with a sliding time usage in exchange for resources. I only used this in the early game to give myself an economic boost since the technology isn't all that different yet or I am facing an existential threat and need ships to keep them at bay. I also did it in my multiplayer games with friends to help them out since they were still learning the game.
@CptCh4os
@CptCh4os 4 жыл бұрын
You called war the most exciting thing in Stellaris. I wanted to let you know that I could not disagree more. War is tedious and annoying. Empires will basically never surrender a long lost war. AI keeps recapturing system after system with two ship fleets which can barely take out unupgraded stations. Conquering planets is just micromanagement without the basest form of interaction. Status Quo peace deals are not easily transparent. There is nothing between a weird Status Quo and a complete surrender of the enemy. CBs are inconsistent and hard to get aside from making claims for single systems via the rarest ressource in the game that you can't even really get actively. Just wanting to let you (and perhaps Paradox) know that there are plenty of ways to play Stellaris and I might be alone in my economy simulator and Federation/community leader playstyle but I don't think I am. Also much thanks for doing these guide. The rest of your stuff seems really entertaining as well as far as I've watched!
@filipegolineli9909
@filipegolineli9909 4 жыл бұрын
Play victoria 2, the economy is far better
@N1ghthavvk
@N1ghthavvk 4 жыл бұрын
You're definitely not alone - I also like to play economy, megastructure and pop growth simulator :D
@alphariusfuze8089
@alphariusfuze8089 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone actually try surrender before XD
@Phazon8058MS
@Phazon8058MS 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this comment. I feel vindicated in my love of playing a diplomatic federation-builder playstyle. The community around this game seems so obsessed with the warmonger playstyle, and as someone relatively new to this game, I'm having trouble finding help and info for diplomat playstyles.
@dannybroughton6444
@dannybroughton6444 4 жыл бұрын
i would try the nsc2 mod yes. stations are considerably reworked and two ship retakes don't happen period. plus it has six different station levels more ship sets allowing for a better fleet and generally a better quality space game overall. best part is you do not need any dlc to play it and only requires the ui overhaul dynamic mod to play it with for all the new things to fit properly. and if you want to expand ship techs further then ESC 3.0 or extra ship components will further expand on your fleets firepower and quality.
@luminica_
@luminica_ 4 жыл бұрын
3:20 cruiser design is awful. Lasers and strikecraft is a terrible combination, lasers will be forced to target shields since strike craft ignores it and strikecraft will destroy a lot of armor before lasers can be used against it. Kinetics and strikecraft is much more powerful, since the kinetics will quickly deal with shields while strike craft deals with armor and both can take on hull. Coil guns are superior to UV lasers in hangar only cruiser fleets.
@Stefan_Anon
@Stefan_Anon 4 жыл бұрын
Tier 4 lasers outperform tier 1 railguns. Kinetics would be better in theory, but considering the tech difference, lasers are the best option in this case.
@ravenknight4876
@ravenknight4876 4 жыл бұрын
@@Stefan_Anon lasers are wasted research most of the time. You should have invested physics into something that boosts tech or energy instead, and focussed engineering on kinetics.
@leelambert1559
@leelambert1559 4 жыл бұрын
Stefan Annon *laughs in stormfire autocannon*
@94Newbie
@94Newbie 4 жыл бұрын
@@ravenknight4876 I would disagree. while you should push for tech research in physics as a priority engineering research is much more significant for your overall economy. as a non gestalt conciousness empire you can also gain a good amount of energy from tradepower. also physics gives generally better weapons than engineering late game. you can also use shields to save alloys. that requires better reactors but a lot of essential lategame tech and even ascension perks require good reactors.
@ravenknight4876
@ravenknight4876 4 жыл бұрын
@@94Newbie You really shouldn't. Amd the reason for why you shouldn't is that having a tiny edge in late game doesn't really matter anymore, while it can sometimes be the defining factor in early game. In an otherwhise equal 1v1 at 2240, the empire with cruisers and Autocannons is just always going to win a war, while a contest between two equal powers in 2400 will rarely come down to who got Neutron launchers first. All tips in this video -and my response to it- only ever matter in early and mid game when you can't win a war on pushing out 10 battleships worth of alloys per month. And during those phases of the game, you will not have that energy from trade power, and the benefits from general economics won't outshite the benefits of kinetic weapons yet because they are frankly not yet impactfull enough.
@alphariusfuze8089
@alphariusfuze8089 4 жыл бұрын
My tatics: 𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕰𝖒𝖕𝖊𝖗𝖔𝖗 𝕻𝖗𝖔𝖙𝖊𝖈𝖙𝖘
@alkazaronyx8599
@alkazaronyx8599 4 жыл бұрын
My tactics: you can miss if you hit everywhere
@IMP_ROM
@IMP_ROM 3 жыл бұрын
My tactics: Build only the biggest ships.
@AshCreeper
@AshCreeper 3 жыл бұрын
AI allies have actually been useful for the majority of my wars in my experience. In one war, a vassal of mine was helping to defend my territories against an empire I didn't even know entered the war. In another war I was in against a fallen empire, all my federation allies close by sent their fleets to divert the attention of the main FE fleets while I was able to clear out their territory with ease.
@michaelkornhoff6865
@michaelkornhoff6865 2 жыл бұрын
I had 2 allies that just sat there next to the people I was fighting an did nothing
@dumitrumahu5791
@dumitrumahu5791 4 жыл бұрын
"If you dont have a dedicated alloy world, well you better go to my previous video with Democracy" Well guess that clarifies my concerns.
@The_DGO
@The_DGO 4 жыл бұрын
it's nice to have corvettes and destroyers in the fleet specifically to keep your more vulnerable battleships and cruisers from engaging in melee combat.
@sqocks8254
@sqocks8254 4 жыл бұрын
Do you think armies and ground warfare should be expanded on? Or would this become somewhat tedious on larger maps?
@riccardomambelli2877
@riccardomambelli2877 4 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, the armies should be integrated in some way into the fleet, with value depending on, for exemple, the size of the ship, the technologies, some kind of add-on attached (like Regenerative Armor) to the ship, etc. As it is now, the ground combat is just tedious and adds more or less nothing to the game, even worst, it only slows the game and adds even more micromanagement than there already is.
@agamemnonofmycenae5258
@agamemnonofmycenae5258 4 жыл бұрын
@@riccardomambelli2877 A ground battle on a FE/AE is lasting longer than the whole war,if you don't space 5 times as much time,bombing those planets.
@riccardomambelli2877
@riccardomambelli2877 4 жыл бұрын
@@agamemnonofmycenae5258 In fact I usually neutron bomb them all to oblivion when I can and, to be completely honest, they aren't even worth that much: the only things you should care about those planets are the 2-3x 250 energy/m implants and the rare resources+100 minerals implants, everything else is disgustingly suboptimal (10 energy and 50 minerals for 25 alloys? R u crazy m8? I can have those at nearly 1/4 of that price)
@prinstyrio0
@prinstyrio0 4 жыл бұрын
@@riccardomambelli2877 Always thought they could do something similar to manpower in ES2, where each ship can have a set amount of manpower that can be used to drop down on planets, and then they need to return to refill it. That said they'd also have to rework how defensive armies works and the combat probably. I definitely think that getting armies on planets should be simpler, and then after that I dunno. I think it's hard to make ground warfare any deeper when the main game is set in space, you can do that in turn based games as you can divide the attention a lot, but real time the way Stellaris works is hard. I think having events pop up as ground battles goes might be one way to do it, where you have different choices and information.
@riccardomambelli2877
@riccardomambelli2877 4 жыл бұрын
@@prinstyrio0 Deeper is not always better. And no, I don't want even more pop ups on my screen, thanks. Man power could be a thing, but, realistically speaking, we're considering a whole planet's population, and plenty of them, so how much sense could man power make? I know it would be cool to see those gene warriors to be as cool as space marines in every way possible, but it isn't the right game for that. We must wait for Total War Warhammer 40k for epic, futuristic and massive ground battles, nothing Stellaris will be in the near or far future.
@thatpandasamuraisamuraipan345
@thatpandasamuraisamuraipan345 4 жыл бұрын
As a wise man once said “you split an empire you divide it’s people, you attack an empire you unite it’s people” - P Diddy
@dontplz
@dontplz 4 жыл бұрын
I just got into stellaris - I've always been an endless legend/space2 fan so stellaris never really appealed to me. I just bought it on sale and and some DLC and I love it, but there is sooooo much to process. These up to date guides have been really helpful thank you sir. you are a queen.
@danuk500
@danuk500 4 жыл бұрын
You ideally want to figure out their ship builds before declaring war. If you alter your ships to counter theirs you'll have a far easier time. Your fleet got wiped because it just wasn't a good build for their fleets
@shamneo23
@shamneo23 4 жыл бұрын
thank u so much for all these 10 guides but I'm sure 10 only scratches the surface of this beautiful game. hope there's more in depth guide in the future from u.
@antonycharnock2993
@antonycharnock2993 4 жыл бұрын
Definite improvement in AI battle tactics in 2.6. Usually play Grand Admiral with success. Last two games since update got dogpiled with massive multiple fleets. Pretty early in game with a weak federation so not much help from allies.
@Stefan_Anon
@Stefan_Anon 4 жыл бұрын
AI is defenitely better now
@StarBoundFables
@StarBoundFables 2 жыл бұрын
This was such a fantastically well-put-together series, thank you, Stefan! 😃🙏🏽 May the light of our Universe guide your way 🌌
@danielhunter6059
@danielhunter6059 4 жыл бұрын
Only thing missing from this game is a war room where you can speak with your Admirals or if in a federation other leaders where you can coordinate attacks, plan future attacks, defensive strategy, possible strategies of enemies, pay traitors of enemies to give intel on fleet movements there’s potential in a war room to make this game even better
@williamryder781
@williamryder781 4 жыл бұрын
it might be useful to have a corvette swarm (so 20+) with afterburners that can act as a rapid deployment force to both react to small raiding parties, and basically scoop up the level 0 starports in the internal regions of an opponent's empire. Corvettes with afterburners because your ship speed is based on the slowest ship in your fleet, so the corvettes can blitz places and dodge out when their fleets show up.
@robertagren9360
@robertagren9360 4 жыл бұрын
Battleships do this better, you don't fly faster and it's not the goal. You just jump the whole fleet to another line and the opponent won't follow because they'll be stuck on the other side. Once you in battle you're stuck in battle and battleships manage to stay alive.
@Kori0129
@Kori0129 4 жыл бұрын
STOP! PURGING TIME!
@onceonly1111
@onceonly1111 Жыл бұрын
Very useful video, the info I needed started at 7:00 with the War Exhaustion. Was annoying in my game because I just started moving in with a superior fleet to counter attack the race who had made a move on my territory, then the game says war will be automatically resolved with Status Quo in 24 months.
@RaskaTheFurry
@RaskaTheFurry 4 жыл бұрын
everybody: "I like war" Everyone liking gameplay of passive empires minding their own business and TONS of diplomacy: REEEEEE
@hang_kentang6709
@hang_kentang6709 3 жыл бұрын
my diplomacy involves using words backed by the enough fleets to lockdown a sector.
@PraxicDragon
@PraxicDragon 4 жыл бұрын
0:12 Thank you for inserting that joke, it really helped my mood lol
@caiarcosbotias1710
@caiarcosbotias1710 4 жыл бұрын
I really need an admiral / grand admiral guide too because the AI is dominating me...
@TheHahanicevideo
@TheHahanicevideo 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, would be nice to get a fanatical purifier guide for GA
@PDCB3rserker
@PDCB3rserker 3 жыл бұрын
Engineer and cautious admirals are a good starting point have the fleet on aggresive to push them more into aggressive trait then keep pushing that way to get unyielding if possible
@adriankoch964
@adriankoch964 4 жыл бұрын
You can also use the trade window to determine how many reserves of a resource an empire has. Just CRTL-Shift click on the other empires alloy trade, where it maxes out at is its reserve and the monthly is it's production. This can also be used to decide which planets to take from an empire, since losing a consumer goods world when you are already low on consumer goods production is crushing. Attacking an equivalent empire with 5k fleet but ~15k alloy in store, means that in 90 days in there will be a BIG reinforcement wave coming.
@sualocin
@sualocin 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, thank you. I have no idea why the war mechanic in this game is so convoluted but thanks to this video it's a lot clearer.
@ggoof9597
@ggoof9597 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this short series. It's just what i needed to pick up the game again after not playing it for a long long time !
@WindrunnerB4
@WindrunnerB4 3 жыл бұрын
Man, I just immediately build up my fleets as a genocidal empire with all the insane bonuses and quickly get everyone but marauders and fallen empires pathetic to me in the first 60 years.
@George_K.
@George_K. 4 жыл бұрын
I'm very glad that you got sponsored by Paradox, because I can't think of anyone who does Stellaris guides better.
@doppler3970
@doppler3970 4 жыл бұрын
Loved this serie, but you talk quick ^^ It's hard to understand everything as a foreigner. But I learned a lot anyway. THX
@armedbobery4879
@armedbobery4879 2 жыл бұрын
I watched 3 other videos before i came across this and this one by far explained war so much better. Thank you for your work!
@vladpetrescu89
@vladpetrescu89 4 жыл бұрын
Nice series, it helps my gf a lot to pick up the game and understand it. Keep it up! One thing to note however, while in previous patches it may have been useful to build up your fleet only when you need it I would argue that in this patch you want to keep it around at all times if you're into the whole galactic senate and want that extra weight you get from your fleet size. What do you think?
@Stefan_Anon
@Stefan_Anon 4 жыл бұрын
Having a fleet around is good for weight, but only if you can afford it. It's one of 4 things that makes up your weight, so it's not the end of the world if you dont have it.
@antonycharnock2993
@antonycharnock2993 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I used to hold off maxing my fleets until there was an obvious threat. Since the 2.6 update. More ships. Now
@Cashiopaya
@Cashiopaya 4 жыл бұрын
And remember kids: Unity Do First Dont, High-ish Hab. Nekkam Prime!
@doomah7538
@doomah7538 3 жыл бұрын
Okay
@ARx-mb6ig
@ARx-mb6ig 3 жыл бұрын
You got a stroke or what? :D
@frankgreenwood4649
@frankgreenwood4649 3 жыл бұрын
I saw this in the tab on the side and blood started pouring out of my nose - I don't think that's supposed to happen...
@sethierot7067
@sethierot7067 4 жыл бұрын
Starbases for Life! Have 4 annoying neighbors behind my star Fortesses that dont dare to enter my Space xD Now i shall take your advise and get more Carriers :p Thanks for this Series really helped me out.
@robertagren9360
@robertagren9360 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe we're in endgame, is it why the starbases are gone...
@viashadow1515
@viashadow1515 4 жыл бұрын
I dont usually finish my games of stellaris but my most recent game I finally reached end game crisis (Scourge) and watched a galaxy go insane. As soon as the scourage spawned, the fallen empire next to me thought now was a good time to "wake up". And man did they wipe the floor with the Scourage. I've never feared Ai in a game like stellaris. After the scourage was gone I thought the galaxy would calm but everyone ganged up on the Awoken and now everything is on fire. I'm good tho they seem to like me. I think.
@robertagren9360
@robertagren9360 4 жыл бұрын
That's what happens when a fallen empire is spiritualist. It won't stop declaring war until all materialists are gone.
@hiroprotagonist921
@hiroprotagonist921 4 жыл бұрын
Robert Ågren i’ve been doing a long game every night with 1000 stars, a friend and 15+ empires with some fallens, started at the steam sale and we are getting into some shit with wormholes being used by loads of machine uprisings and fallen tech all while we both steam roll the galaxy to get to each other. We had no idea how to play first day, now we are the most war hungry xenophiles, he’s got the best fleats i got the the global marketplace leadership (balancing my resources by playing the stock market) and jesus christ this game is a crippling crack addiction
@hiroprotagonist921
@hiroprotagonist921 4 жыл бұрын
Robert Ågren oh and i selected a ring galaxy cause i was naive and stupid
@OzixiThrill
@OzixiThrill 4 жыл бұрын
You went on to praise strike craft, yet gave us a clear demonstration of why they actually aren't all that great. They get pulped with even miniscule advantage in the enemy's fleet power if it contains some PD. Also, the reason why your war exhaustion suffered less than theirs was not due to strike craft being efficient. It was due to cruisers being more efficient at retreating than corvettes and destroyers. Disruptors and similar weapons, on the other hand, don't have any significant counterplay options and allow a fleet to punch well above it's apparent weigth class.
@robertagren9360
@robertagren9360 4 жыл бұрын
Continues saying that strike crafts are the most powerful by far, they're useless once the opponent has point defenses and they're useful when the opponent hasn't. Since you can't start a game without researched both point and flak cannon their uses is at best missile escort.
@rockspoon6528
@rockspoon6528 3 жыл бұрын
Cloud Lightning and Focused Arc Emitter battleships: Killing fleets twice their power before their weapons are even in range.
@MaderHaker
@MaderHaker 3 жыл бұрын
Yeees. Plus extra satisfaction for zapping them like bugs
@BrokenCircle1
@BrokenCircle1 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. I just bought all the DLCs and am loving this game but this was all news to me. I was thinking watching this video...'wait cruisers are better than destroyers' (95% of my fleet is just destroyers) I didn't realize this game had so much depth in naval combat.
@DavidWBeck
@DavidWBeck 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if every time a galaxy is made, it pops into existence somewhere? 😱💚
@TovenDo.O.Video-
@TovenDo.O.Video- 4 жыл бұрын
It does!!
@nerovarwulfenbach
@nerovarwulfenbach 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a year late, but still. You can look at diplomatic weight gained from fleets to have a better comparison of yours and enemy’s fleets than just knowing that you’re ~equal. You need to look at the base diplomatic weight without any modifiers (such as 20% or so from the supremacist, great fleet, etc).
@imperialspacemarine1539
@imperialspacemarine1539 4 жыл бұрын
I wouldnt say that starbases are getting worthless in the endgame. I dont know if it is still doable but another KZbinr pulled it of to have starbases( more like citadels) with over 800k fleetpower wich means he was untouchable for others. And the best Thing is that he did this for one Goal only: to contain the endgame Crisis (wich was the Scurdge(?)) on highest difficulty with Settings to make the game as hard as possible.
@Stefan_Anon
@Stefan_Anon 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like either a mod or extreme endgame. If you can make a station that strong your normal fleets would be in the millions of FP
@sqocks8254
@sqocks8254 4 жыл бұрын
I agree, they are pretty usefull
@alexanderormwiklund
@alexanderormwiklund 4 жыл бұрын
Either he had so many repeatables the galaxy was screwed or it was a mod which made starbases more stronk
@chilfang2422
@chilfang2422 4 жыл бұрын
Yea this was Lathland I think, he did it no mods just repeatables Edit: just checked, it was Lathland
@Regunes
@Regunes 4 жыл бұрын
Lathland executed this with highly situationnal bonus (he had like 3 coordination center?) and very late in the game. Starbases loose relevancy very fast once cruiser become a things.
@nicholaschandler3383
@nicholaschandler3383 4 жыл бұрын
I want better ship battles with actual tactics. Right now the fights boil down to the spec of your ships and the number of them. Kinda boring
@Stefan_Anon
@Stefan_Anon 4 жыл бұрын
I completely agree. There absolutely needs to be tactical depth to battles.
@akshatb.7908
@akshatb.7908 4 жыл бұрын
there are a bunch of mods which try to achieve that. you might want to check them out in the steam workshop.
@erutz5190
@erutz5190 4 жыл бұрын
Check out polaris sector, or Ai war 2.
@robertagren9360
@robertagren9360 4 жыл бұрын
But I don't want to know how, I just want it to work. It just work.
@joshuaschmidt4161
@joshuaschmidt4161 4 жыл бұрын
Something like Sword of the Stars!
@alejandrovallejo4330
@alejandrovallejo4330 3 жыл бұрын
Stefan: I the end game stations don’t really matter. Me at the end game with 300k military power per station: Excuse me?
@matthewzumbo9868
@matthewzumbo9868 3 жыл бұрын
dude, thank you so much for explaining how wars work. even thohg ive won three wars all ready, i still didnt understand how i was suffering more war exhaustion than the alliance i was fighting
@kinamiqi4025
@kinamiqi4025 4 жыл бұрын
I like what you did with the intro :D
@redknight3439
@redknight3439 2 жыл бұрын
@3:10 The hangar bay swapover makes life super easy just hang back and swat the flies away lol Thank you
@RobH73
@RobH73 4 жыл бұрын
If you take on the AI as a tributary, if you have good relations you can ==> protectorate which you can then integrate. It doesn't start the 10-year timer when you convert them, so if they've been your tributary for 10 years before this point, you can just immediately start the process.
@IrmscherMMDCCC
@IrmscherMMDCCC 4 жыл бұрын
+1 for the Edwin Starr reference
@ot23234
@ot23234 4 жыл бұрын
"Violence never solves anything!" -someone who has never studied history
@absoluteunit6957
@absoluteunit6957 4 жыл бұрын
History is badass
@theslay66
@theslay66 4 жыл бұрын
"If violence doesn't solve your problem, you're not using enought of it" "Let's see how this works the day a mosquito lands on your balls."
@ot23234
@ot23234 4 жыл бұрын
@@theslay66 This isn't responsive to what I said. I never made a claim that violence ALWAYS solves problems, I merely refuted the claim that violence NEVER solves problems. Even in your silly example a small amount of controlled violence is one of the possible solutions.
@theslay66
@theslay66 4 жыл бұрын
@@ot23234 Chill out, it was juste a joke.
@ot23234
@ot23234 4 жыл бұрын
@@theslay66 FYI jokes are supposed to be funny.
@inquisitorthomasdefinitely536
@inquisitorthomasdefinitely536 4 жыл бұрын
How to win wars make sure your army is bigger than there’s
@abhijeetshrawage4763
@abhijeetshrawage4763 4 жыл бұрын
I am so glad I didn't give up on this game during the learning curve phase. 100hrs in and I am finally able to keep my empire fully sustainable and prosperous without issues. Next up: Conquests
@patches4170
@patches4170 3 жыл бұрын
About raiding fleets: I've noticed that the AI is really bloody good at distributing their fleets. They have smaller raiding fleets at the perfect locations and their big 100k fleets where they are needed most (fallen empires). Have I noticed correctly that the Stellaris AI is quite advanced when it comes to combat?
@joaogomes9405
@joaogomes9405 3 жыл бұрын
Accidentally effective is more like it. The AI doesn't really intend to do any of that, they just get boosts to their economy that allow them to build fleets to their hearts content so they just spam them from whatever random starbases they have and then send them out to the closest connection to your empire. I used to think the same as you until I realised during one game that the AI was only attacking me from two fronts with separate raiding fleets of 2 corvettes each because he had a starbase I hadn't noticed with two shipyards built and he just kept spamming vettes out of there and sending them to the closest non-defended system I had, which just so happened to be in the opposite direction of the main front. He wasn't even smart enough to group those corvettes together and actually do any real damage, so I just had these shit swarms running around the same 3 undefended systems doing nothing but being annoying.
@jordanburgess5456
@jordanburgess5456 4 жыл бұрын
Great videos. Thanks for posting!
@Moreanolc
@Moreanolc 4 жыл бұрын
Love the videos mate! I'm kind of new to Stellaris but whenever I play as a conqueror I don't know what to do AFTER I win the war with all the slaves and unhappy planets that I won during the war. I really think that would be a great idea for a video.
@Moreanolc
@Moreanolc 4 жыл бұрын
@@kingbubbles9461 yeah that sounds good, but what if you want an slaver empire. There are videos out there but with the old versions of the game so useless to us now.
@Snelhard
@Snelhard 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Stefan, thank you for the video and the previous ones, i have to ask you why everyone is telling me that strikecraft are overpowered, because a default enemy fleet which have the half of your fleet power can beet a strikecraft fleet. is it because you dont lose the ships so you can attack them again ? or am i missing something and loosing against the half fleet ennemy power (me 10k, him 5K for example) ? thank you !
@Stefan_Anon
@Stefan_Anon 4 жыл бұрын
Strike craft are only effective against smaller ships. The lack of losses and high resiliency of Cruisers also allows them to survive many engagements.
@Crazy_Diamond_75
@Crazy_Diamond_75 4 жыл бұрын
@@Stefan_Anon How are they only effective against smaller ships when Luke blew up the Death Star with an X-Wing? /s
@bebs626
@bebs626 4 жыл бұрын
The one we’ve all been waiting for
@adriankoch964
@adriankoch964 4 жыл бұрын
Subjugation Wars against 1 planet primitive upstart empires or rebels have become such a drag with Verne, once there are a few defensive pacts in place. Since currently you can't get the Homeworld anymore when you have taken it and dealt enough exhaustion via Status Quo. And full Victory takes an unrealistically amount of invasions for them to give in, while realistically a guaranteer would exit the war before having all of their planets invaded.
@Khunvyel
@Khunvyel 4 жыл бұрын
*With patch 2.7 claiming systems during war is not exactly working, so be sure to claim before the attack.* After you have reached status quo and got rid of their ability to reinforce, you can simply keep the war because you will be in an open border truce for 10 years after the war has finished. The occupied systems will continue to give you economic boosts. So if you have to fight on multiple fronts, having not to worry about one side is a big relief, especially if you don't have to worry that after 10 years, they just want to strike back if your fleet strength isn't up to par and at the other side of your empire. Another tip how to be done with wars faster is claim more systems than one, in the order of importance. That way you can guarantee that you will get the 1 or 2 systems that you actually want on a state of Status quo, and leave out the other 1 to 2 systems that you claimed later. That way you can easily rush wars even if the opponent has the bigger fleet, when they're busy elsewhere and before they can get back to you to mop the floor with you, the war is already over. Yet another tip: do not show the enemy your fleet strength on the border. If you put ships on your border, the other empires will put ships there as well. wait for war declaration until the very last moment as you move your ships into place and they're at the edge of the gravity well so they can immediately jump immediately and start attacking. It's funny, yet another game where ground combat is essentially useless :D
@4SeasonProducer
@4SeasonProducer 2 жыл бұрын
Espionage was actually important since it will easily turn the entire war we're you are outnumbered from hoping the enemy will mess up in order for you to win into a thinking game since if you had the info of their fleets position you can do stuff like divide and conquer or etc
@sykes1024
@sykes1024 4 жыл бұрын
Based on the thumb nail, I thought this was going to explain total wars.
@snuwwulfie6156
@snuwwulfie6156 4 жыл бұрын
you must have some big nutshells over there
@templateaccount7816
@templateaccount7816 3 жыл бұрын
Its generally best to just spam corvettes until they become pathetic then crush them and eliminate them from existence. Usually works for me.
@Nancy-mq4uc
@Nancy-mq4uc 3 жыл бұрын
He totally forgot to manage his empire will he was at war
@thatcollegekid1334
@thatcollegekid1334 2 жыл бұрын
Earned a sub when you said “war what is it good for?”
@bangingthebeldam
@bangingthebeldam 4 жыл бұрын
Explaining actual battle tech would've been nice. IE armor v shields, type of weapons v certain armor etc
@Sorain1
@Sorain1 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, could use a video on that.
@Stefan_Anon
@Stefan_Anon 4 жыл бұрын
Defenitely doing a vid on that in the near future.
@bangingthebeldam
@bangingthebeldam 4 жыл бұрын
@@Stefan_Anon sweet thanks
@Leor974
@Leor974 4 жыл бұрын
Hey ! First of all, nice guides. It helped me a lot even if I have so many questions left... The main problem I had in my last game is this one : How to make enemies fight against our defensive spaceports ? I've built in all my chokepoints spaceports with hangar modules but when an enemy tried to invade my systems, he just traveled accross the spaceport-protected system, avoiding the fight (even if my own fleet was there) and just tried to take all my other (non-protected) systems...
@Stefan_Anon
@Stefan_Anon 4 жыл бұрын
There are two ways to prevent this -You research ftl inhibitors asap -You put a ship or two in front of the starbase, in range of the coming fleet. The fleet will engage the ship, and move into the starbase's engagement range, which will be quite large, especially with the +50% range building
@Leor974
@Leor974 4 жыл бұрын
@@Stefan_Anon Thx for the tips ! I remember I've done the second one by engaging the enemy fleet with mine close to my spaceport but it wasn't close enough. I think I didn't build the +50% range module. I'm going to try with it next time. Thx again !
@voxxel
@voxxel 4 жыл бұрын
Better voice volume hype.
@xZippy
@xZippy 4 жыл бұрын
Nice Temptations/Edwin Starr reference.
@Edramon53
@Edramon53 4 жыл бұрын
Trying this in my current game, my carriers have 'Autonomous Ship Intellect (Carrier)', but they're absolutely not staying at extreme range. They launch their fighters while out of range of the enemy, but then close in and get blown to bits anyway. This is vs Santuary system defences, not in a war. Have now taken all their weapons off and downgraded their engines to T1. Working better... which is ridiculous. We'd win outright if the cruiser AI would just put the brakes on and sit still once the fighters launch.
@Stefan_Anon
@Stefan_Anon 4 жыл бұрын
I've tried carriers against sanctuary and the enigmatic fortress, but they seem to rush in because they engage enemies further in the system and try to close range to 150 with THEM. It does make it so you can't cheese those systems really early for cheap, so I'm okay with it.
@Edramon53
@Edramon53 4 жыл бұрын
@@Stefan_Anon Ah, that explains it since they seemed to behave fairly well in your video. I did notice the fighters don't focus on one target but spread out all over the place. Got Sanctuary with minimum losses in the end - set Hit and Run war doctrine and retreated a couple of times. Once they killed the first few things and the fighters concentrated a bit more it went quick. Thanks for the reply.
@RigbyWilde
@RigbyWilde 3 жыл бұрын
War is not the answer. Is the solution
@TheReaper569
@TheReaper569 4 жыл бұрын
War? What is it good for ? Absolutely.... Anything
@dragonnsv9710
@dragonnsv9710 2 жыл бұрын
I liked for the pun and im not ashamed of it.
@slobapop90
@slobapop90 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! It nails the most important aspects of warfare very precisely. Thank you for taking the time to create it. A slight digression but how do you feel the Cruiser design you shared fares against the Battleships outfitted with Tachyon lance and Neutron Launchers? Is there a late game alternative that utilizes Strike Craft better than this Cruiser design?
@Stefan_Anon
@Stefan_Anon 4 жыл бұрын
Tachyon/neutron ships still reign supreme. Strike craft are only good against corvs and destroyers.
@sephikong8323
@sephikong8323 4 жыл бұрын
I think that Battleships with Tachyon + Hangars and the Carrier computer are incredibly powerful. This is probably the most versatile ship I have witnessed in a long time, it destroys fleets no matter if it's made of corvettes, destroyers, cruisers or battleships. It is actually very good and it saves a ton of time to have basically a universal model that works at least fine in most cases and not have to worry too much about your design
@spikeybiscuit9251
@spikeybiscuit9251 3 жыл бұрын
Won me over before 20 seconds in. Subbed
@datwhiteboi6256
@datwhiteboi6256 3 жыл бұрын
A Important detail that wasn't mentioned in this video is that if you own a system and somebody else takes the planet you still get the planet. Keep in mind the same thing can happen in reverse.
@jakemyers5764
@jakemyers5764 4 жыл бұрын
I just got declared war on for settling too close and thought that my 2 2k fleets and 3k starbase would defend me. My system was then invaded by 3 95k fleets and my ships lasted about 8 seconds. WHAAAAAAAAAA
@rodrigoguerreromartin7443
@rodrigoguerreromartin7443 4 жыл бұрын
Check your ship weapons and shields/armor. Especially early game, "auto best" can be painful, unless you researched in a very balanced way. A similar thing happened to me. What happened was that my ships were 100% lasers, and theirs were all heavily shielded. That, and my ships were all armor, and they also had powerful lasers. I had to manually change everything to Kinetic and shields. After that enemies' ships melted. Late game, VS AI, Autobest will create balanced ships, and AI will be balanced as well, so unless you fuck up horribly, More shit counters less shit.
@jakemyers5764
@jakemyers5764 4 жыл бұрын
@@rodrigoguerreromartin7443 yeah the civilization that attacked me was a religious fanatic fallen empire and they didn't like me "settling on their holy worlds" so that was why I was so out teched
@rodrigoguerreromartin7443
@rodrigoguerreromartin7443 4 жыл бұрын
@@jakemyers5764 I totally misread those numbers. Yeah you were fucked. Hahahaha
@albanianpotato8962
@albanianpotato8962 3 жыл бұрын
Hello everyone, my name is Stefan, and WE ARE GONNA KICK SOME ASS ONCE AGAIN
@Wurstfoto
@Wurstfoto 2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful!
@redtsun67
@redtsun67 Жыл бұрын
War is weird in this game. I just had my first war and absolutely crushed him and his stupid ally. I easily destroyed over 100k of their fleet power while taking barely any losses. Occupied half his systems and went on a bombarding spree spreading devastation and destruction everywhere. Despite being under constant pressure, he was still pumping out 15k fleets, and despite getting victory after easy victory he still got me to 76% war exhaustion before he hit 100%. I hit 100% exhaustion shortly after and forced a white peace because somehow I didn't have enough occupation to win the humiliation war victory. Got to keep all the systems I took from him but still, that kind of confused me. I don't understand how I can destroy multiple fleets from both him and his ally, take a shit ton of his systems, destroy his planets, and not humiliate him. Also I want to know how this dude was printing fleets out of nowhere. I know the AI cheats in strategy games but that was ridiculous. It's not like it was a big deal that I didn't get a total victory, as the whole point of the war was just to dab on him because he was getting a bit too strong for my liking, but it still kinda miffed me.
@shukitheconscious3150
@shukitheconscious3150 4 жыл бұрын
"enough bodies thrown at a problem will generally solve it" *Laughs in PRC*
@haruspexaugur2439
@haruspexaugur2439 3 жыл бұрын
WAR HUH. WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR. This was the original title for Tolstoy's War and Peace btw.
@williamcorvinus8240
@williamcorvinus8240 3 жыл бұрын
okay, Elaine..
@Regunes
@Regunes 4 жыл бұрын
2/10, did not mention the "all cadia strategy"
@chrisdupuis2523
@chrisdupuis2523 2 жыл бұрын
Literally every war I fight. Me: I've annihilated your fleets, I have total spacial supremacy you can't build any more ships to contest me. I've occupied half your planets, it's only a matter of time before your empire completely collapses, surrender and let's end this. AI Empires: Be serious beast, you are LOSING this war. Me: *deep breath* losing... You know what, f*** this. Bomb their worlds into ash, call back the regular army and bring up the xenomorphs, tell the colossus to assume orbit of their home world...
@thepickle5214
@thepickle5214 2 жыл бұрын
Ok so that makes more sense. I just thought that statis quo would be exactly like white peace so I've lost a lot of wars where in reality I actually won
@the_sixxness
@the_sixxness 2 жыл бұрын
So what happened in this case? I launched a war against an opponent. My Cassus Beli was humiliation. I destroyed their stations in the territory but didn't know how to lay siege to planets yet so I started bombarding worlds and building armies to invade. Then the war ended. I won completely. I gained zero territory. What happened?
@locowolfie
@locowolfie 4 жыл бұрын
I find the fleetpower of these “fighter-bases” hyperinflated and not at all worth the power they have.
@sephikong8323
@sephikong8323 4 жыл бұрын
On the starbases ? Yes, mostly because the rest of their weapon is absolutely garbage (seriously, I have high end weapons so why do my stations use missile 2 and gun 3 !?) But the fighters themselves are good. Try putting a fleet comprised entirely of carrier battleships with the carrier computer and you'll see the enemy fleets and stations melt before they could get sufficiently in range of your ship to damage them. The real problem is that stations cannot be really customised, you can't tell what they should use precisely. If I have built only hangars in it, maybe I don't want them to build bad lasers upon upgrading to a higher tier, I dunno why
@Stefan_Anon
@Stefan_Anon 4 жыл бұрын
It is inflated, but it is still worth the alloys. A 2.4k station will be able to deal with around 1k enemy fleet fp, which is worth the 300 alloys.
@locowolfie
@locowolfie 4 жыл бұрын
Stefan Annon i build carrier fleets and continually get smashed by lesser value fleets with lower tech i build a 16k fleet only o see it get smashed by a 8k corvette spammed A.I fleet. Beyond incomprehensible how its considered “op”.
@ravenknight4876
@ravenknight4876 4 жыл бұрын
@@locowolfie Because you built a mono fleet. Your carriers don't have any screening force, and as such just get eviscerated in close combat. Always bring a group of ships with guns to cover your carriers. Especially in multiplayer.
@locowolfie
@locowolfie 4 жыл бұрын
Raven Knight no i did not don’t assume i did, ask. I never build “mono” fleet i build biggest ship plus corvettes to intercept. I’ve played plenty of stellaris on GA to notice the A.I behaviour has changed dramatically. I like it im just commenting on the fact that so far i found the fighters to have a bloated fleet value. Making them great for posturing and diplo weight. But to actually be fighting they’re definitely not “OP”. And quite often do worse than my weapons based lower score fleets 🤔 Edit:typos
@Ian501st
@Ian501st 4 жыл бұрын
Nice reference at the begining
@adriankoch964
@adriankoch964 4 жыл бұрын
*Flak is also currently also generally better than Point Defense
@RigbyWilde
@RigbyWilde 3 жыл бұрын
What the hell??? You make fleets with only cruisers? I always make fleets with at leadt 4 times more corvettes than cruisers. A ship type has always 2 times more number than the bigger type in the sequence. For example: 32 corvettes, 16 destroyers, 8 cruisers, and so on. That always works very well.
@erik-7255
@erik-7255 Жыл бұрын
Armies are the best lots of fortresses on planets with chokepoint and the ftl inhibitor used this exact tactic to either win or status quo unwinnable wars..
@FISH-tp5vo
@FISH-tp5vo Жыл бұрын
In one of my campaigns I had one of the best times just very robust economy early wars with corvettes that lead to huge expansions and more planets till I was at war with the entire galaxy well I had taken out all of their navies every station every world was invaded they stopped getting war exhaustion and I kept gaining it they were stuck at 87% I had 15 lost maybe 200 ships mind you they had lost literal thousands of ships the end of the war they lost 12 thousand and something ships and I had to settle for status quo because I was just gaining more and more exhaustion
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