Engraving a dial

[@CameronMcCreary]

The only company here in the U.S. that currently sells a long angle lathe file is F. Dick. I also use the German emory / silicon carbide paper holder; it works great. There is an engravers hard wax thats applied to the engraving cuts. Nice work Stefan on the engraving work!!!

[@UncleKennysPlace]

I sold my engraver a few years ago; it was ancient, but functional and complete. And now I need to make new dials for my lathe, as I'm replacing all of the imperial leadscrews with metric!

[@ThisOldTony]

nice! when i do engraved dials, to blacken the lines & numbers, i machine positive lines & numbers out of black acetal and bond them in one by one. you should really try it next time.

[@StefanGotteswinter]

Doesnt sound very complicated at all :D

[@ThisOldTony]

Stefan Gotteswinter if you'd rather not deal with adhesives you could simply press fit them too.

[@StefanGotteswinter]

I thought of friction welding them ;)

[@cylosgarage]

Derek Richline it does, I've tried it. It's a great trick for fixing broken 3D prints

[@shawndangerfield2451]

Ebay

[@simonhopkins3867]

The humour and sarcasm in this video is brilliant. That setup for shaping was excellent Dr Frankenstein 😉

[@physicsguybrian]

Stefan! Your skills and talents are boundless and truly a pleasure to watch and learn from! Thank you!

[@garyc5483]

Another fabulous tutorial on how to do things most people would never try. Your video's always give me ideas that I try to replicate whilst working in my modest shop. You are an inspiration to the aspiring machinist. Thanks for sharing Stefan. regards from the UK

[@bcbloc02]

Very professional looking results! That was quite some setup to hold the part at the proper angle. I have been toying with the idea of building a massive rotary adjustable angle table for use on the HBM to be able to easily do odd angles and multiple operations in one setup just by rotating or changing the parts axis.

[@Ujeb08]

That's a very nice dial you made. The black against the satin finish is a good contrast. The whole project turned out great. Thanks Stefan!

[@90Zook]

Nice video, I liked the use of the cut off o-ring and the grub screw.

[@andrewaustin6941]

I love the way you explain the mathematics throughout the Machining process. I believe it is the best explanation of all of the Machining videos I have watched on KZbin! Thank you for making such great videos keep it up!!

[@Nalakcinillam]

Great job Stefan. Quite a pleasure to see someone working "manually", precisely, with forethought and accuracy in mind. In this age of "the CAM made me do it", it is refreshing. That book "Tabellenbuch Metall" 16:48 brought back some memories. I worked as a toolmaker in 1990 outside Nurnberg and bought a copy in German. Quite silly that I never thought to look later for an english copy, it is an excellent reference.

[@adriaandavel]

I know very little about these things but I consider that art, really nice. If I looked at the dial I would never imagine how much technology and engineering was used to produce it, truly amazing

[@TheRicktobin]

superb craftsmanship, also loved the video editing. Bravo.

[@kennethroth1739]

Harold Hall designed a "Lining Tool" in his workshop practice series #37. It is even in metric dimensions!!! I was wondering if you might have an interest in making one of these as a video. If you plan on needing more dials this might be a solution. Would love to see your ingenuity adapted to this tool especially if you use it on your rotary table or dividing head.

[@denny9931]

Danke, wieder eine Serie neuer, cooler Tricks! Die Aufspannung rockt natürlich.

[@ChrisB257]

Stefan - beautifully done - yet again the Gotteswinter precision and attention to detail. Nice work sir. :)

[@maestra1st]

Hat's off for you sir, awesome craftsmanship and i like the way you handle common machining problems...simple and effective!

[@KnolltopFarms]

This was great for me to see, and all of your numbers(excepting the metrics) were very familiar to me since I've been working on making some new jumbo lathe dials with 125 divisions. I found it odd that there are no 25 hole patterns on most dividing head hole-plates, since 125 and 250 are both multiples of 8tpi leadscrews. Anyway, thanks for the boost to my confidence in tackling this project and happy milling. Aloha...Chuck

[@charrontheboatman]

As Always stefan simple gr8 outside of the box thinking that again proves the adage that there is a million ways to do anything in a machine shop and the only time a job is undoable, is when u give up! thank you again and still for all the gr8 videos.

[@godssoldier101]

absolutely beautiful work man... your add on is better than if the company that made the mill added the feed setup from the factory. love your vids, thanx for your effort

[@Tranartz]

I would say that is a first class job and I especially liked the sepia-flashback. Thank You

[@pifpaf3329]

I just love the attention to detail. e.g. Clean the file after each stroke. Put cloth under the lathe. Clean the grinding holder before inserting and after removing the sharpy ... Just perfect

[@stephenmurray2335]

Another wonderful video Stefan - many thanks for posting. I like the amusing touches which demonstrate your ever improving presention and editing skills. Bravo!

[@glennfelpel9785]

The dial looked more like the combination dial on an expensive safe! Nice job. Thank you for sharing.

[@paulbuckberry7683]

You are a marvel Stefan, you make everything so simple. Thank you for sharing.

[@turningpoint6643]

As always extremely well done and you never fail to impress. It was very light duty cutting so it didn't need much for rigidity, your methods obviously worked just fine., But you probably need a proper dividing head that can rotate the head Stefan. A little easier and faster to set up and use. But you'd already know that better than I do. It would need to be suitably reworked so it's Stefanized of course. A lot of hours and craftsmanship into the whole power Z axis build and the finished results certainly show it. First class work imo. That power feed will sure pay for all the time invested every time it's used. Oil blackening of the dial and polishing off everything but what's in the engraving would also work as one more method to color the divisions and numbers. Clever trick with the paper, I'll need to remember that one.

[@timberk36]

Your amazing Stefan. I love how you figure out how to everything yourself. Keep it up.

[@geargnasher9822]

Dialed in on something like 37 other tricks besides dial engraving, thank you!

[@Morkvonork]

You can fill the graduations by rubbing or melting wax crayons into them. You could make multicoloured lines by doing using different colours. You can see it used here kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4vbm31onLB_qMU You can also use Nail Polish as filler material for engravings.

[@stevewilliams587]

Dialed me in ! Who said Germans don't have a sense of humour ?

[@RobB_VK6ES]

The zero marker line is called the fiducial . sounds like fi dew shal

[@mirlin3602]

Cheers Stefan, I always look forward to watching your work. I received my Mechanical and Metal Trades Handbook this morning after noticing that it had details for calculating differential indexing on the opposite page to where you were working from. Unfortunately, the new English editions must be edited or compiled differently to the edition you have as this information was not contained within the book. The book is still full of good stuff and won't be wasted but I thought the omissions might be useful to others.

[@mirlin3602]

joshua43214 Thanks Joshua. Apologies if my comment wasn't clear. I noticed some info that took my fancy on the opposite page to where Stefan was working and thought I would buy the book based on that, nothing to do with what he was working on. I have a couple of copies of Machineries Handbook, but again, thanks for the tip.

[@vbidou17]

Thanks for the super trick Stefan ! I wanted to blacken my Dial engraving and didn't find a proper cleaning technic before seing this video. Also I wanted to "clear-Laque" the Dial, but you explained that it's unecessary. My engraving are pretty deep, hence I will use black epoxy as you suggested. François

[@lorenlieder9789]

Great job Stefan I am more impressed with your skills every time I watch your video's you are very skilled machinist!! I would love to meet you in person someday.

[@jeremybaker8626]

I go back and watch this vid from time to time. It’s simply impressive. 👏

[@howder1951]

Beautiful job Stefan! That looks like a design that could be adapted to a mill drill power feed for X axis . I don't think the engraving on half the stuff you buy nowadays is half as nice as that wheel! Thanks.

[@grape142]

I'd say that was a first class dial, very impressive. Thanks for showing your technique. Regards, Graham Payne

[@ScottGMerritt]

Excellent work as always, Stefan! Thanks for sharing your skills with us.

[@mpetersen6]

Nicely done, always. 1) When grinding you tool or boring bar tools in your Deckel knock-off why not grind a flat or whistle stop at 90 degreed to orient the cutting edges to the center line of the bar. Just a thought. 2) For shaping with the spindle what about a means of using the 16mm bore for the depth stop or a similar arrangement. I'm thinking it would be possible to more easily shape internal or external gears/splines on the mill.

[@markhollingsworth3097]

Takes me back to my original job I trained for....many years as a commercial engraver, used to graduate and engrave these types of dials every day. Shouldn't have needed to file anything if your cutter was sharpened correctly

[@davidengland4731]

Beautiful work as usual. Thanks for sharing, Stefan.

[@PixelSchnitzel]

This video is packed full of brilliance!

[@xmachine7003]

Yes it is. I concur.

[@steved8038]

very ingenious enjoyed this .thank you keep them coming and happy new year from the UK.

[@andrewdolinskiatcarpathian]

Such an incredibly informative and enjoyable video. Thank you for the inspiration to try something new with not only my lathe but my pantograph engraving machine too.

[@lornie212]

You make me want to be a better (hobby) machinist. Thank you for showing us how you work.

[@Marvin.Runyon]

I like the flashback sequence, Tony/10 !

[@BaconbuttywithCheese]

Beautiful work as always Stefan, thanks for sharing.

[@isabellaman2545]

Thank u Stefan. That certainly completes a perfect project. Well done. Love the playing with ToT s. haha

[@robmckennie4203]

Really slick dial, it came out very nice

[@SamEEE12]

Some creative work there Stefan. Thanks for sharing.

[@larrysperling8801]

first class work as usual sefan. i would love to find an engraving machine like yours. your tips using copy paper and the oring are very clever.

[@danielwerger5641]

As usual, an excellent video Stefan...! Years ago I had the chance to buy a pantograph from a Jeweler here in Vancouver. I have regretted it ever since... :-( Cheers and thanks, Daniel.

[@craigtate5930]

Love your angle setup system for the rotary table. Well thought out. But of course, its you :-)

[@JeffreyVastine]

A great video Stefan, this will be a big help with several projects I have coming up. Thanks!

[@terrylarotonda784]

Outstanding work as usual.

[@burtlade1705]

Very interesting! I am thinking of making a dial or two and your video made it all look like something I could do. Thank you.

[@StefanGotteswinter]

Even if I fail sometimes at it, I try do show approachable methos of doing things - Thank you!

[@a320214]

very talented you are !

[@MrHellfinger]

Great video, Stefan! I love how your machines sound so smooth, like a sewing machine. All of my tools seem crude in comparison. Not sure how I found your channel, but I am now subscribed and look forward to watching more. Thank you!

[@frankmuller5649]

I remember you saying "I'm not a tool maker"... yeah yeah... I am just a monkey that stumbled upon electricity... but that enabled me to watch your videos... now I might evolve! ;) Please do not stop! ;)

[@stephenmetsch6316]

Very thorough and well explained. It's nice to have all those toys.

[@cosmicrayastrophysics7839]

Bravo! Beautiful in form and thought and action. Thanks for sharing.

[@JoggingWithForks]

Beautiful work, and a pleasure to watch.

[@watahyahknow]

verry impressed with youre skills and the way you solve things i'm not sure i be able to work that precise without ending up frotting at the mouth and trowing things against the wall i might do things a little different like using a cnc router and a 4th axis to carve both the lines and the numbers on the dial , doing it this way relies more on my cad skills than my motor skills (precision) though i doubt it will be as exact like the way you do things my vision isnt sharp enough to read dials while operating the lathe or mill anyway and would use DRO's before relying on reading round dials from 10 cm away with a magnifying glass while the machine is running (BAD things happen when you get near rotating and flying stuff )

[@razorworks9942]

Hey Stefan, Your work is absolutely impeccable! I have a couple restorations projects in which I'd like to make larger dials for, but yours is the first one I've seen using the engraver to mark the lines. Absolutely professional in every way! Now where can I get an engraver? Damn, I need more tools to make more tools...Will it ever end? Happy New Year Stefan. Enjoyed this one big time!!!! Razor!

[@chucktrim1a11]

great videos, love a few of you guys, and starting lil metal shop in my shop, hahaha, well this old Tony named you, another admirer, in " A Brief Chat about Carbide Tooling "..... keep up the videos man, great work

[@Clackvalve2]

Fantastic video, I now know how to ink engravings, I tried loads of times with no success now I know how, Thank you Stefan.

[@BickDE]

Very nice Stefan. I always envy your 'engraving' of numbers.

[@eatonasher3398]

Quality craftsmanship! Well done sir! It's the little things like this that separate German (and English) work from the rest of the world! Love it

[@LordOfTamarac]

I love your videos, you're a very talented machinist and the creativity shows through in your work. My question is though what is that beginning music?

[@StefanGotteswinter]

That "When Jonny comes marching home" otherwise known "The ants are marching", otherwise known as "THAT song from the movie Die hard 3 :)

[@StraightThread]

"When Johnny Comes Marching Home Again" is an old song. It was written during the American Civil War. We sang it when I was in elementary school almost 100 years later. The lyrics still come to mind when I hear the music. Hurrah! Hurrah! : )

[@gertskjlstrup1804]

Why should i go out in the machineshop, when there is news from Stefan "the God" Gotteswinter? Loved it! Ty for showing.

[@764234]

Top notch video. I bought the "Mechanical and Metal Trades Handbook" as it seems quite useable.

[@dillydallydollcomachineand8246]

Ahhh the music makes you a good machinist.

[@peterthannhauser2225]

I like that rubber O ring / setscrew friction idea. Just curious, did you go back & validate your new dial increment movement to your quill plunger test indicator displacement? I have a similar RF-45 & its been a standing joke for many years on these mills that the Z rotation crank is wonderful random number generator, but not very indicative of actual depth. It could be how they tried configuring to inch measuring, maybe your metric machine mitigates this issue. Anyway give it a check.

[@davedigs]

nice work Stefan came out real nice what would you use for a cross slide dial on a lathe i have an old boxford and its awkward to re zero the dial you have to use an allen key

[@listenact]

"I wouldn't be who I am if I hadn't just made my own index plate" hahaha amazing

[@nickclarke2897]

What size rotary table did you use? I ask because I have the same milling machine arriving this week and want to buy some bits for it. Great video

[@nikolaradakovic5050]

Stefan you're a true artist

[@ScotsFurian]

Could Cold Blue be used on the dial and polised off to leave the index markings blue ?

[@StefanGotteswinter]

Good question - Should work very well! I will give that a try :)

[@IronHeadMachine]

I use the blue method and 4000 grit wet paper. I really like this quick method as well for engravings that are not handled much. Never saw it done this way, but it is pretty cool for this type of use I think . Thanks Stefan

[@ScotsFurian]

Glad to be of help :)

[@RambozoClown]

Another option that I'm sure you saw, was the black wax shellac used by Chris (Clickspring) for the engraving on a clock face. The cold blue would leave the lines as grooves, so for some things that might be an advantage.

[@Landrew0]

Will a paint-pen work?

[@Paul-vi1jn]

"just to get rid of any schmutz on there"... Stefan du begeisterst mich immer wieder, Daumen hoch für diese tolle Arbeit! :D 👍

[@Xlaxsauce]

He sounded like my oma/grandma when he said it

[@warrantyvoid100]

Great video Stefan, thanks for sharing! I love the chamfers on your zero plate, did you do them on your chamfer machine for a part so small? The only problem I have with your video is seeing the runout in your power feed engagement knob is going to keep me awake at night.

[@StefanGotteswinter]

Yes, I do pretty much all chamfering on that machine. Sometimes I use a pushblock if my fingers get a bit close, but generaly that machine is very safe :) I agree on the knob, I think I have to turn my own...

[@etb408]

I have a question doesn't your milling machines head tilt I believe it would have been easer to set up with the work piece bolted down flat against the table and move the head to the right angle.

[@wgm-en2gx]

Very nice work. It was really interesting to see how it was made.

[@thomaslizon2594]

Is there a way to put a hundred thumbs up at once? ;) Thank you. Beautiful dial. I love how engraved in "just a piece of tool steel " which is a beauty. And the paper trick is a great info! Thank you again.

[@xmachine7003]

👍100×😉😊

[@andreamodiano]

Bravo Stefan, ottimo lavoro, grazie.

[@colderwar]

Brilliant work :-) Just one thing though, couldn't you have used an index plate with twelve and a half holes ? :-))))

[@StefanGotteswinter]

Been there, done that ;) Also called: Indexing failure...

[@johnmclaughlin4778]

Liked it despite the closing pun. :) Love your videos and I don't even have a shop. Yet.

[@fransvermeulen3287]

There is a much easier way to determine the index hole disk.Youre device is a 1:90 version, so with 125 devices you take 90/125, reduce this to 18/25 and there you are.You also can have 36/50 if you only have a plate with 50 holesIf for example you want 50 device, makes 90/50 = 1 + 40/50 . So 1 full revolution, and 40 distances on a 50 hole plate,or 1 full revolution an 20 distances on a 25 hole plate.You don't need to calculate the angle.

[@fransvermeulen3287]

My device tool has a rate of 1:40. So if I would make the 125 devices, makes 40/125 = 8/25So I take 8 distances on a disk of 25 holes. Easy like that

[@organreeman4376]

That articulated tool grinder is sweet. As I start scrubbing google for it :)

[@rlsimpso]

I have success using paint pens to coloring engraving and stamped letters. The trick is to gently wipe it off before the paint dries completely.

[@melgross]

I use paint crayons meant for engraving. They work pretty well.

[@eXactModellbau]

Stefan, schön gebaut und gut erklärt! *thumps up*

[@BrianDaleNeeley]

That looks REALLY sharp! It looks really professional too. How often to people ask where you buy things like this?

[@markfulmer8501]

Hi Stefan- another great video thanks for the inspiration Markus--USA

[@itzik4x6zh]

Hallo Stefan . i am very interested with the book you are holding there.looks extremely interesting for me but 'and i couldn't understand the name from this movie. could you maybe write it ? Thank you

[@erajoj]

Beautiful job!

[@shawnmrfixitlee6478]

1st class job Stefan Not second man ! Great share .. Thumbs up

[@stephenwagar2663]

Very Nice . The Engraving Machine Is Way Cool ,Best Regards S. L. Wagar

[@jobkneppers]

Stefan, is there a way to flatten an abused diamond wheel for the single lip grinder? (Deckel SO clone) Thank you for your answer! Best regards, Job

[@martyscncgarage5275]

Very nice work Stefan

[@31415geon]

looks just like store-bought, great job Stefan! also thanks for mentioning what reference book you use.