Steinhart Ocean One 500 Titanium V Tudor Black Bay 58 | Episode 4 of Dave Stuck At Home

In today's episode of Dave Stuck At Home, I wanted to compare my Steinhart Ocean One 500 Titanium, to the Tudor Black Bay 58.
Both are mechanical watches with Swiss movements and both are solid divers watches. Which one would you choose?
Tudor coverage starts at 6:27.

[@Miamis4me305]

I just got the bb58 which I've been lusting after since it was introduced. I absolutely love this watch and to me it's the perfect watch.

[@DavidBournePhotoandVideo]

Congrats mate! How awesome is it seeing it on your own wrist now! Thanks for watching.

[@paulyoung5514]

The Black Bay is as close as you can get to those original Tudor/Rolex submariners from the fifties with the size, bezel, colours everything. Fantastic watch.

[@DavidBournePhotoandVideo]

It really is fantastic. Thanks for watching mate!

[@Scorpio_-ri2iz]

The BB58 is the watch to have. No question about it. You pay more, but you get incredible value. Very nice video. Thanks.

[@DavidBournePhotoandVideo]

Thanks for watching mate, glad you enjoyed it :)

[@craig2100]

If I had the cash...Tudor hands down, but the Steinhardt is good value for the price.

[@DavidBournePhotoandVideo]

Agree with you 100%. Thanks for watching mate.

[@tanto001]

58 on my list.

[@DavidBournePhotoandVideo]

You won't be disappointed mate. Thanks for watching.

[@martinharrison4245]

People complain about the pin and collar system that seiko use , but I've never had a problem with them. I found the screws more fiddly. Bb58 for me, but I think it it needs drilled lugs or at least quick release straps. Nobody wants to be messing about with a tool that marks the lugs up. Not at 3k Anyway.

[@DavidBournePhotoandVideo]

Yeah I can agree with that. I'm more than happy to change straps and resize my watches, but for some reason I don't feel the same about my 58.

[@mickeydee3595]

Titanium is know to mar and scratch quite easily. If you're worried about the screws working loose just put a dab of loctite before tightening it down :)

[@DavidBournePhotoandVideo]

Thanks for the tip, and thanks for watching mate.

[@NICHOLSON7777]

Loctite is a good idea on all bracelets with screws. I keep a tube in my "lil box--o-watch-tools" .

[@douglaspuglas6888]

@@DavidBournePhotoandVideo Threadlock not loctite :) Loctite is a permanent glue threadlock is specifically designed to hold but come apart if needed never Loctite steal you could strip those tiny screws if you need to adjust.

[@DavidBournePhotoandVideo]

Douglas Puglas good to know! Thanks mate 👍

[@mickeydee3595]

@@douglaspuglas6888 there is different grade's of Loctite. Even nail polish will work

[@jamesreid2651]

Best purchase by far the BB58, makes me smile every time I release it from the box, I treat mine maybe too much like a baby, not something they say should be a factor in wearing a dive/tool watch bit man it just commands respect. Great video BTW.

[@DavidBournePhotoandVideo]

Congrats man! I feel the exact same way. Even looking at it in the watch box makes me smile. I know it's a dive/tool watch, but it seems impossible to not treat such a nice / expensive watch with a lot of care! Thanks for watching mate.

[@jamesreid2651]

A pleasure mate, was always listing after a no date sub, not in so much of a hurry now for some reason.

[@jamesreid2651]

*lusting*

[@DavidBournePhotoandVideo]

@@jamesreid2651 all good man, I knew what you meant :)

[@leemartin2978]

This was a really useful video , as I had both of these on a “watch list” so to speak. Obviously there’s a big difference in price, but on watching this I’ve decided to not even consider this model of Steinhart. I also have Steinhart Ocean 1 Vintage dual time shortlisted, but if this is typical of the build I’ll seriously consider ditching that too. I think the Tudor looks excellent. I’ve just added the Ollech and Wajs C100 to the list to think about , which falls somewhere in the middle at around £1200? . There seem to be very few actual dealers for the latter to view it though before buying here in the U.K. which makes it a tougher decision. Anyway great job 👍

[@DavidBournePhotoandVideo]

Glad you enjoyed it mate! Don’t get me wrong, I still love my Steinhart, and have it on right now actually. I can appreciate there had to be a drawback somewhere for the cost, and if you were to put it on another strap it’s a non issue. Thanks for watching!

[@davids9549]

Great watch the BB58 - it's been my primary wear since I got it, always on a Nato, and exposed to hard outdoor use. Don't agree with your gripes; this is a less-is-more diving watch, hence no date or see-through back. My only (very minor) gripes are cosmetic - I'd like the hands to be the same shade of gold as used on the rest of the watch (not yellower) and I'd prefer the case edge between the lugs to be polished. Apart from those nit-picky issues, I find this watch absolutely perfect - which isn't a term many would use to describe the Steinhart, interesting watch though it may be!

[@DavidBournePhotoandVideo]

I agree that despite my gripes that it is a perfect watch. Love the fact that you daily yours and use it as it is intended! Thanks for watching mate.

[@maxloyall2135]

As a watchmaker I feel you on the screw issue If you want it gone just order -blue- (

[@DavidBournePhotoandVideo]

max loyall cheers mate! Thanks for watching.

[@decluesviews2740]

Has anyone else had this experience: I absolutely drool over the BB58 and the BB GMT in videos and photos. I like them much more than the Omega Seamaster 300 in photos/videos. I still like Tudors in person but not quite as much, and when I look at them side by side with the Omega, my eye is drawn towards the Omega. That’s odd for me, because styling-wise I tend to prefer “dressier” watches and I’m not that big into sporty looking watches. My only diver is an Orient Mako II (Japanese), which I do love.

[@DavidBournePhotoandVideo]

Funnily enough I now also have the Omega SMP300 white dial, so I know EXACTLY what you mean haha. Thanks for watching mate.

[@decluesviews2740]

@@DavidBournePhotoandVideo Congrats on that acquisition! The white dial is the smartest looking of the lot.

[@DavidBournePhotoandVideo]

@@decluesviews2740 Thanks mate! I agree, but then again I am extremely biased haha

[@pureroadster59]

The BB58 is unreal. Until of course you inevitably scratch the anodized bezel. It should be ceramic at the price.

[@DavidBournePhotoandVideo]

I'm praying that I don't do that, but yeah I know it'll be inevitable! Thanks for watching mate.

[@glennyeah]

totally agree. however, the scratches on a sport watch give it character imo

[@richardkanner5365]

25 years of a Rolex 16610 with an aluminum bezel didn’t seem to be a big deal.

[@Aramis7]

Steinharts are superb value. They could easily sell them for 20% higher than what they are now and would still be big value. Particularly the premium range with the open case back. I've both Tudor BB and the a few Steinharts and they are very very different watches but both have wrist time. One thing you didnt mention what the bezel action which I believe is better on the Tudor, and 60 click is more practical than 120 clicks (my opinion). Good vid thanks

[@DavidBournePhotoandVideo]

Cheers for watching mate! I agree that they are a great buy. I agree that 60 click makes more sense than 120, just playing with my Steinhart now, I don't imagine a need to do a "half" click. It has a solid bezel action, not as refined as the Tudor, but still nice to use. Glad you enjoyed the video.

[@fpoynton1604]

Like you - i own Steinhart w eta - stainless steal versions- and Tudors , including bbb. It is truly mind boogling the quality you get from Steinhart - they are tanks . Its only construction weakness is the clasp. However the bracelets, case, bezel, movements utilized , are truly incredible tool watches. That being said Tudor is - at a micro machinery level more perfect - however- its also thicker ( which I actually like ) and the aluminum bezel - while truly beautiful in tone artistically - is much less durable. Also the silicon spring - adds a controversial.proprietary service liability - which is worth avoiding imho. However, this unfortunately seems to be inevitable industry tec upgrade for now .While I like both brands tremendously-. I think once any company manages to engineer generational quality timepieces - that can out live its owner - that company has done its do diligence. The watch communities self imposed homage controversy has little applicability/ credibility in the remaining world of art, science and design where anything providing beauty and quality - that is not copyright infringement is applauded - not demeaned . If Rolex has no objections - I certainly dont either. Buy what you like - and take advantage of the amazing quality you can enjoy for fractions of the price of other great brands. Its a dimension to the hobby that should truly be appreciated not demeaned - a negative direction for anyone to follow. Great presentation 👍.

[@DavidBournePhotoandVideo]

Thanks for watching mate and glad that you also enjoy both brands!

[@sannam4394]

I love the tudor 58 it looks so beautiful! And with the size of it! Must be comfortable to wear!

[@DavidBournePhotoandVideo]

Certainly is. I know it gets so much hype and you hear the same stuff over and over, but it really is just such a stunning watch in person. Thanks for watching mate 👍

[@sannam4394]

@@DavidBournePhotoandVideo blue / black seriously so hard to make a decision!!!! If I can afford I would have them both. 😂

[@DavidBournePhotoandVideo]

@@sannam4394 I know I’m biased, but the black just stands out to me. Do wonder what other 58 size styles they’ll release in the coming years

[@sannam4394]

@@DavidBournePhotoandVideo seriously! That will be awesome more options!!! Thank you mate! Looking forward for the new colour!

[@DavidBournePhotoandVideo]

@@sannam4394 I have to imagine there will be more 58 variants. Would be insane of Tudor to have invested in a whole new movement just for 2 watches. Granted I can’t imagine they’d release a green one and set the Rolex crowd off 😆

[@MyZippy13]

Loving my BB58 Blue

[@DavidBournePhotoandVideo]

Congrats mate 😊 thanks for watching!

[@fru2009]

You're a natural! Keep them coming!

[@DavidBournePhotoandVideo]

Thanks very much mate, that's very kind of you. Cheers for watching.

[@borjastick]

BB58 all day long for me. I bought the new BB58 Blue and absolutely love it. It has very quickly become my every day go-to watch and that with the quality of it makes it stand out. I also have a Rolex Explorer 214270 which though I love has always had a 'must protect' issue about it. Thus I think I will sell.

[@DavidBournePhotoandVideo]

borjastick congrats on the new purchase! Thanks for watching mate 😊

[@stevedeffley6128]

Good video David, keep them coming!

[@DavidBournePhotoandVideo]

Steve Deffley thanks very much mate! Really appreciate it.

[@Conor1878pl]

I have the Steinhart 39 GMT premium 500, and the Tudor bb58. The 58 is the ultimate vintage-inspired dive watch. End of. It’s perfect. The Steinhart would be fantastic for the money (gmt movement, FIVE HUNDRED m water resistant with a exhibition case back and very thin, decent finishing, fantastic jubilee bracelet), if it weren’t for two things. Bezel action isn’t great, a bit off play. It runs EIGHTY to NINETY seconds slow per day!!! I will be sending it in for a service soon but that is just ridiculous for a new watch costing that much.

[@michaelriera6277]

Loctite purple on those screws will keep it tight and secure.

[@1SaG]

I put Loctite on all three of my Steinhart bracelets (2x O-style 42mm, 1x 39mm J-style - all of them in stainless steel though). Not that I had much trouble before, but better safe than sorry. The screws on all three haven't budged since I put that stuff on there - and I had two of the watches with me on a recent 4 week vacation with lots of activities and water-sports in a tropical climate. You should check Loctite's website to see what they recommend for titanium though.

[@DavidBournePhotoandVideo]

Thanks for the recommendation, and thanks for watching :)

[@stuartibanez]

Great video buddy. Love both 👌

[@DavidBournePhotoandVideo]

Thanks very much mate. Thank you for watching.

[@Andrew-J316]

Use thread locker for the screws. Works great!

[@DavidBournePhotoandVideo]

Cheers! Thanks for watching.

[@bernardwadding]

Tudor for me, and have one incoming after lock down. Tbh, I don't like the blue accents on the steinhart

[@DavidBournePhotoandVideo]

Awesome! Is it a 58? Congrats on the purchase, and thanks for watching :)

[@bernardwadding]

@@DavidBournePhotoandVideo I really enjoyed your video, yeah its a bb58. I have heard the quality of Steinharts is really unbelievable for the 💰. I might get a sub homage at some point

[@DavidBournePhotoandVideo]

@@bernardwadding Thanks for the kind words, I really appreciate it. Congrats again on the incoming 58. I reckon the Steinharts are great value, just have to avoid the people who want rag on them for copying Rolex's design cues.

[@VersedNJ]

Tudor is a Rolex brand, no open caseback. None on my Pelagos, non on my Tudor Pepsi GMT. BTW try some locktight on your steinhardt. Nice to see a regular guy do a review.

[@DavidBournePhotoandVideo]

Michael Paris I believe the North Face has an open case back. Glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for watching mate 👍

[@Conor1878pl]

As I’ve said elsewhere I own both (nearly: I have the 39mm premium 500 gmt steinhart, essentially the same watch but smaller with a gmt movement). Enjoyed the video but a strange comparison. A cheaper, tool watch, Rolex homage, or a mid range luxury, vintage inspired worldie of a watch. If you have the money, don’t for a second consider the steinhart, the bb58 is just the ultimate watch below £3000. There’s absolutely no competition between the two, incomparable in every aspect (unless you’re desperate for a date window over looks I suppose - if you want functionality over aesthetics, get an Apple Watch instead).

[@DavidBournePhotoandVideo]

Hi Conor, yeah I agree it is a weird comparison, but I was more trying to think that would the Steinhart really be all you would need, or is there proper justification for forking out for the 58. Both of these are my own watches, so it was interesting (for me at least) to sit down and think about it.

[@mortenandersen1928]

Nice review David. It would seem that the overall color of the steinhart titanium has become lighter than earlier versions. In your video it seems really close to brushed stainless steel.

[@DavidBournePhotoandVideo]

Thanks very much mate! Appreciate it. It depends on the light that hits it. In bright sunlight it definitely looks closer to stainless steel. In indirect light, or when it is darker, it is noticeably grey.

[@sergioromano4901]

if you're undecided between the two try to weigh each one on your hand and your doubts will disappear

[@davidminton2661]

No comparison bb58 is far better made .Definitely a different league

[@DavidBournePhotoandVideo]

For sure, no argument there. Just thought it was interesting to look at it from a different view. Plus I just wanted to spend time with the 58 😊. Thanks for watching!

[@ronaldtrepanier6606]

Do you dislike the besel on the BB58 because it with scratch easily?

[@DavidBournePhotoandVideo]

I wouldn't say I dislike it, but I am just a fan of ceramic bezel's. For how they look over anything else. Granted, the day that I put my first scratch on the 58 will be a sad one for sure!

[@coolspiritministries]

Well done

[@DavidBournePhotoandVideo]

Cheers mate! Thanks for watching.

[@Watchugoton]

Both nice watches and the 58 is one I will get but the 58 is about 3 times the price. (And you gotta ask yourself is it 3 times the watch of the stienhart??????I’ve got a 3 Steinhart watches and the titanium 500 gmt premium is the best time keeper,out all my other watches the only ones as good or better at keeping time is -Tudor pelagos steel/gold chronograph and the p01 but all considerably more money than the stienhart. I think both watches are good enough for anyone’s collection. Congratulations on a Great video 👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@DavidBournePhotoandVideo]

Thanks mate! Glad you also enjoy what Steinhart are putting out. I do love my Ocean One 500. Thanks for watching and glad you enjoyed it!

[@richardhoulton4016]

Nice watches both of them.

[@DavidBournePhotoandVideo]

Thanks very much mate. Appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment. Hope you're staying safe. Not long until you can get the RF out again!

[@MarkDanger777]

Steinhart is more known to making homage watches of Rolex and there are definitely better ones for cheaper so I'd take tudor all day

[@DavidBournePhotoandVideo]

Yeah I can agree with you on that. I was happy that mine was its own design, rather than the usual copy/paste job. Thanks for watching 😊

[@nicksundby]

Maybe try a spot of threadlock on those screws

[@DavidBournePhotoandVideo]

Cheers mate!

[@rousseau327]

Buy a Steinhart if you don't want to spend Submariner money, but you want something that looks exactly like a Submariner to the passerby. Buy literally any other dive watch in this price range if you're a watch enthusiast.

[@deltropico7]

One is an original design, the other one is a wannabe. With one you buy history, art and intangibles; the other is just a sum of parts

[@mickeydee3595]

The Tudor that was a cheaper copy of its sister company Rolex with cheaper ETA movements? Ah yes hit the nail on the head!

[@stms4411]

JkandI - yes that was the case for Tudor over 70 years ago. Today, it’s on the level of Rolex in regard to quality but costs less than half the price....offers a design nod to one of its own pieces from 1958 (with some contemporary cues), whereas the steinhart seeks to make an affordable Sub homage with a splash of color and a sub par bracelet.....apples v oranges

[@mickeydee3595]

@@stms4411 That steinhart has nothing rolex on it. Dont start with the Bezel as Rolex knocked that one off of Blancpain. Tudors are nowhere near Rolex interms of finish and quality.

[@stms4411]

JkandI - didn’t say there was anything Rolex on the steinhart. Said it was an homage and not necessarily a good one. Most serious watch people believe the Tudor’s quality is in the league of Rolex so we can agree to disagree And to G1234’s point....with Tudor you’re buying some heritage in its own right. Tudors inception was to provide same cases with cheaper movements than Rolex. In intervening years they were the choice of multiple nations’ navy forces.

[@mickeydee3595]

@@stms4411 How is that steinhart a "Homage"? Its got different case, dial, handset, bezel design? The only thing slight Rolex would be the bracelet.

[@zaf240489]

Loctite the screwed bracelet.

[@andrei-cosmin.popa85]

I would have loved the Steinhart if I was 18 and had bodybuilder wrist, but I went down in size over the years. It's watch cases size I was talking about... A proper Titanium alloy will not scratch easily. Judging by the looks of your bracelet, I'd guess that's a poor alloy, so I'd stay away from sea water and indian rivers. Don't try to clean it with petrol! You can easily fix your screws in place with Loctite. Really. DO IT! Nobody should give a rat's ass about back cases. Wiser brands have figured a long time ago that people tend to use watches to check time and occasionally play with the bezel when they dive in their office chair. The BB58 looks like a decent classic watch taken out of an old box and ruined by a logo missing the center part, some boring straight text and a fake riveted bracelet or w/e you call that failure of representation of a vintage strap. Regardless, I like the gilt, it sits perfectly on my wrist and it's the watch I wear more often than anything (since I'm too poor to afford an Explorer). Why was I recommended this video by youtube?

[@DavidBournePhotoandVideo]

Not sure why you were, but I appreciate you watching it and taking the time to comment. Cheers mate.

[@dreski1967]

This is like compairing a Lada vs a ferarri....

[@DavidBournePhotoandVideo]

Trust me, if I had access to both of those, I'd happy compare :D

[@reginaldbowls7180]

threadlocker

[@wesleymartin6618]

use blue loc tite

[@DavidBournePhotoandVideo]

Cheers mate.

[@wesleymartin6618]

@@DavidBournePhotoandVideo enjoyed the review great job on the content.

[@DavidBournePhotoandVideo]

@@wesleymartin6618 thanks mate! Very kind of you 😊

[@Ferien7]

The Daniel wellington is better

[@MB-ev3ox]

Only fake people wear fake watches 😬