Stellaris - 2.2 Initial Expansion And Setting Goals

Setting Goals for yourself is important. This episode is but an example of the kind of goals you can set for yourself in the short to medium term.
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[@Galaick]

"By the way, this is what we're building" *doesn't actually build it*

[@themadtacoeatingfool5228]

Goal 1. Kill everything that moves Goal 2. Kill it again Goal 3. Make something that moves Goal 4. Kill everything that moves Repeat

[@sessmurda]

I too am a citizen of the Commonwealth of Man

[@thaddeuskobylarz8519]

Adam Session you are mistaken ‘‘tis the *I M P E R I U M O F M A N*

[@thegaminggenius7]

I dunno why but I tried pressing "repeat" so much thinking it said read more

[@jessebrown5247]

RedDaddy 49 I did the same thing must just be habit

[@davidthorp01]

Adam Session Ah a fellow defender of humanity! Unity is with you. Suffer not the xeno to live.

[@caiarcosbotias1710]

"Being in the minus is not a negative thing" *Keynes approves*

[@Animalace3]

I really like that you can keep ships from going into certain systems now. Now my ships won't commit seppuku on the Dimensional Horror! (It was inside of a nebula, so sensors didn't find it before the system was entered)

[@vahnn0]

"Being in the minus is not a negative thing." Yes. It is a negative thing.

[@gerald216]

Year late but doesn't the code not support negative integers, so in a way its really not a negative :P

[@daikicipolloni3151]

Everyone else: ok I’ll colonize that planet and build a frontier outpost there. Me: Current objective: *survive*

[@faithcontending16]

Well, this is great. I just got this, along with X2 The Threat. I love space/scifi games. But these two in particular are so vast and complicated that I am at a total loss of where to begin.

[@Cogzed]

You got extremely lucky with your choke points starting out! I've never been that lucky.

[@easyronin1471]

Hi Aspec, started playing stellaris like 3 days ago and just went for it. Not like other 4x games I've played but pretty similar and so I decided to go on KZbin, which I do for most of my tutorials, and found your channel. I'm halfway done with this series and it's really helped a lot. Because of you I actually decided to get all the DLCs except Megacorp which I will probably get sooner or later. Please keep doing guide videos especially when there are huge updates because you really know your sh*t in Stellaris! Kudos to you sir!

[@A_Spec]

Will do bud, enjoy the game, remember to hydrate.

[@Arkenge85]

Thanks a lot for those greats vids. I bought Stellaris few days ago and I was completely lost until I saw your vids.

[@M1lh0u53ISGaming]

I can't figure out if this is one of those games i would enjoy playing OR i'd rather watch someone else play.

[@spazdevaux2547]

i feel you; lovely to see other play too!

[@smokinggnu6584]

Well, right now at this moment it has a free weekend (really long weekend at that), so you can test it out first.

[@spazdevaux2547]

@@smokinggnu6584 hehe yes I just bought it with all expensions on ps4 and it seems great; I had a chance to play it for 2 days and then had to re-learn ;) hehehe after the change for 2.2! But looking at others helped a lot!

[@stickydude8921]

I'm going to cry... every time I watch another one of your guides, I end up feeling that I could have done things better and wanting to restart :(

[@jessebrown5247]

mrcnxci I really Ike the start of the match for this game but as it goes on it gets harder for me to keep wanting to finish the full play through

[@stickydude8921]

@@jessebrown5247 I can only agree with You. I'm finding the beginning, exploration and wondering what I can find now, especially with the relics DLC, most engaging. Also, the beginning is so easy thanks to the abundance of crystals.

[@RedSntDK]

This is one of those types of games I feel. I do the same with Civilization 5, wishing I had done things better making me end up restarting.

[@Maty83.]

Re-watching this after three playthroughs.... And I already diverge from this. First thing's first, I build up the home system ASAP (Science is king this early on). I adopt diplomacy for the reduced diplomatic costs and try to make a friend with someone else (With defensive pacts you can leave your navy to be extremely weak while pumping out colony ships at every opportunity. Very few will dare to attack you since you have friends, who have an actual navy). Then? Secure AS MANY chokepoints and strategic resources as possible. Bonus points for blocking other empires from expanding (Since they have to play tall then you can have yourself several amazing worlds mid-game if you invade them). Throw in that extra alloy foundry and focus one of your worlds heavily into science. Oh, and if you aren't a democracy, try seeing if you can go with marketplace of ideas for quick ascension perks.

[@davidthorp01]

Friends? With xenos? Baaaah; although get me a curator and i’ll change my mind mighty quick! I’m a fan of the choke point strategy myself, I’ve been finding myself tight on political influence. Still, it’s research and economy once I set my borderers. I’m in a campaign right now with some DLC where i’ve only got 4 lanes leading into my nation, meaning I’m just building these starbases at hyper speed. Once I have a strong enough stockpile of Alloy, I just max out my defenses and then move on, keeping my fleet light, but still strong enough to deal with pirates and internal conflicts. Then it’s expand, expand until I have enough planets to feel comfortable for the mid game.

[@diiv22]

Hey ASpec, thanks for getting back to my question and explaining trade! I've played some games now and realized that I have problems deciding when and with whom to wage war at a later stage of the game. Also I find it really hard to get other empires to tributes or sign a migration treaty.. I was hoping you could share your experience on that in an upcoming episode! By the way I really like this format and I could ask a million more questions :D Keep up the good work ✌

[@elev8torguy]

Can someone please link part 3 of this? I'd like to see this playthrough continued.

[@kvothe2144]

You and me both

[@dumamilk]

srsly wheres the next part?

[@datduong97]

Please! Keep doing this series. I'm a newcomer and this game really gets me hard.

[@mpenni6960]

6:10 "...every system you colonize will cost you one empire sprawl..." I believe the cost for systems is two empire sprawl, not one. The tooltip for empire sprawl reads "five systems +10" or am I not understanding something correctly here?

[@thetrustysidekick3013]

Was it supposed to take up just one? Shit, we need an update.

[@TrabberShir]

@@thetrustysidekick3013 ASpec misspoke. Districts are 1, systems are 2

[@maddic08]

u can change scientists when paused between ships and science without loosing routes

[@BlinDefender]

So you can change scientists between planets and ships without them having to be near each other? It seems like ship to ship transfer would need to be in range of each other?

[@themarsh429]

Yes, it seems people (pops and leaders/scientists) can instantly teleport anywhere in the galaxy. Except for armies, they have to board a ship and fly over the old fashioned way.

[@2ipwiw]

you can queue survey with the actual button?i really need to utilize the ui(have been right click since lanuch)

[@aggieking87]

IPWIW well to be fair I don’t think it was there at launch lol

[@2ipwiw]

@@aggieking87 rolled back to 1.0.3 ,it works(ah the memories...)

[@connorh2215]

IPWIW you can use shift to set multiple projects for any ship type just hold shift and keep setting new projects

[@davidthorp01]

Mrblondezilla _ Holy shit this is gonna help a ton on the rest of my play through

[@orgashi4932]

Marry Christmas aspec and everyone else seeing this

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

Merry Christmas

[@commanderknight9314]

Merry Christmas

[@michibichi2212]

Thank you for this! awesome tutorial series. hope you'll do this for imperator

[@LJCyrus1]

Damn. I've been playing all this time and didn't know about setting system restrictions.

[@Subjagator]

Yeah, it is not super obvious and I have lost many fleets who decide to fly through a system with a leviathan or something in it just because I am not paying attention.

[@skittersewww8328]

so dang fast bro ill have to watch 5 times haha.. but very nice.. influence I kept running out of before, but I was expanding way to fast.. thank you. again ill watch it again thanks

[@David_Brinkerhoff93]

Should a made a Santa megacorp for christmas.

[@melski9205]

How do you choose to play the expansions? How do I grow quickly, everyone seems to be able to out grow me, i often find I am short of influence to expand. Is there anything you can do if you don't get planets to expand to in the early game? If my opponent gets 4 planets and i get cornered in with just a couple is it game over for me? Seems like a fun game, but I have a hard time finding out how to do better at it - is there some way to watch/review my games (including my opponents) after the match?

[@aequinox4673]

Hey man, brilliant video! You've helped me jump-start my experience, and I really wanted to thank you for that! I don't know if you still read these comments, but I wanted to know why you build districts and buildings even though you earlier said that the number of jobs you have should not exceed the number of pops?

[@davidthorp01]

Me a newb to Stellaris but veteran Strategy gamer: Shit how does this all work? Aspec: So here’s everything you need in about 3 hours basic info. Me: Reasonable! And I’ll be yonking that system to make a choke point Asap! To be honest, I use chokepoints to make my empire edges, lowers my number of contact points to a manageable level and I can thereby develop less starports and save credits. It’s basically my main starter goal is to branch out and find the limits of reasonable colonizable space, I got lucky, sealed off four main points. Develop appropriate techs and general economy, build fortifications to spec. Look to who might kill me first; *Sweats at Fanatic Purifier on northern border and looks nervously at my western hyper religious zealots* Ah alrighty then, convince the zealots to buzz off, and shields up north!

[@Paltse]

"Not enough minerals" where have I learned that phrase?

[@ivannazimov5050]

StarCraft

[@Paltse]

@@ivannazimov5050 Well, more like Carbot Animations staple. I already had forgotten it from StarCraft itself.

[@jacobrudd6318]

You can never have enough

[@celticguardian11]

I really enjoy watching your videos!!! Happy Hoildays ASpec

[@Robert-op3ii]

great video is the next part out yet? (could not find it if it is) I hope there going to be more parts thanks

[@pimpinaintdeadho]

Great video. Thanks for the upload.

[@MrBrimbles]

2 consumer goods worlds, 1 alloy world, 2 research worlds. 4 mineral worlds, 5 generator worlds, 5 food worlds. There can be overlap between basic resource (mineral/energy/food) worlds, so you definitely don't need 4+5+5=14!!! raw resource worlds to support your advanced resource worlds! But you absolutely need more raw resources than advanced resources. Advances resources are precisely that - advanced. If you try to rush alloys/consumer goods/research/ecumenopolis in the early game, while neglecting raw resources, you're gonna have a bad time. You need at least 2 basic resource units per 1 advanced resource unit. Pop growth is very important until late game, at which point it becomes detriment due to the shortage of districts and buildings. Past year 2400+ you will begin to run out of jobs, housing and amenities for them. You will need some form of population control, as your empire becomes too big for its britches. There is now a hierarchy of resources. Minerals = buildings, alloys & consumer goods. Consumer goods = research & unity. Energy = buildings & ships. Food = pops. Obey the hierarchy, or else!

[@Subjagator]

How I deal with end game pops is build the megastructures that provide energy and minerals and that way you can start to replace mining and energy districts with housing districts and focus on the buildings that provide 10 jobs. If you still have problems with pops then make them into servants to increase productivity or sell them as slaves.

[@seamuspink9098]

I love the snail teacher in the thubnail

[@manzarek74]

Very helpful and well explained tutorials. Thank you. Will there be a continuation?

[@InfinityBassCannon]

Just bought this game today, thank you for these tutorials!

[@apatheticdeity6030]

11:53 "We are going to get a pop for free!" -Spends 300 energy credits...

[@necroconvict]

Empire Sprawl is something I could use a lot of help with.

[@hobotookmyname]

Hi, ASpec. I really liked this start. Would you mind sharing savegame?

[@mckenziegoodridge3469]

Can hive minds be possibly used for tech as u don't need consumer goods meaning u can replace civilian industry's with reasearch labs

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

Yes. Steph Annon has one up. It's very possible to have 4k research by year 50

[@BloodStainedCrow]

@@JoshuaKevinPerry He managed 4k by year 150. You scared me with that... Or do you have a link and I'm just blind?

[@Adventurer32]

I would say Cybrex, not First League is the best. A Ringworld, in my opinion, is far superior to an ecumenolis as atleast for me, is much harder to make and is much more powerful.

[@Subjagator]

It depends. Ecumenopolis is more usable right from the start. As soon as you survey it you can colonise it and get access to those powerful districts and bonuses. A ring world might be more powerful in the long run but you need to get to mega-engineering and pay the alloys to repair it. So it depends on if you want a free early advantage or a much later advantage that you need to pay for and how you have built your empire.

[@robb4566]

disagree,ecumonopolis especially early on(it is finished btw) is huge as it basically gives you free starteguc resources(districts have alloy and cosmuer good jobs).Cubrex gives yu 15 k alloys and that is it

[@gallendugall8913]

The new ringworlds are amazing.

[@thetrustysidekick3013]

First League is better. You only need to colonize it and voila, you have an Ecumenopolis, no need to wait for tech or anything. And you can just build your own ringworld if you really want one.

[@Adventurer32]

@@thetrustysidekick3013 You can also build your own Ecumenopolis. Also, even 1 ringworld segment is superior to a ecumenopolis, 4 is insane.

[@Big_Trotsky]

Great videos. Getting me hyped for the console release.

[@imonlyamanandiwilldiesomed4406]

Goals: OM NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM -Devouring swarm

[@megumin6548]

You are about to make first contact with the 'Witches' at one of your choke points, you can see them at 34:16 at the top right.

[@sacredones]

Buying a bunch of scientists is a good strat, but it is way better to stick to specialists because of the tech card weightages. Example, if you're going autocannon/torpedo corvettes, you better off going with Propulsion specialist.

[@Caladors]

Hey, man, can you make a new playlist because currently, things are a bit all over the place I don't know where to click :/ I followed the playlist and it seems like everything is out of order. It is about to hit console in one month so I think it may be worth your time.

[@Nowaepon]

It would be quiet interesting to know, what's the most efficient way to increase the administrative cap as fast as possible. My robots dislike small "empires". They need some more space to annihilate those organic bugs.

[@UnavoidableFate]

Society Research.

[@Nowaepon]

@@UnavoidableFate Thanks. Thought there would be a faster way, but ok. Guess I will have to ignore the cap then.

[@UnavoidableFate]

@@Nowaepon The negatives for going over the cap are not very big unless you go SUPER far above it, in which case, you're probably playing wide and just need to adjust accordingly.

[@joypunkzero8029]

Could you please a little more specific in the titles. Or put your beginner stuff in a playlist? Also thanks this is really helping me.

[@usseal922]

Really appreciate the work you've put into these series. Is there an official continuation to this game somewhere?

[@AltF-uc8xk]

After a Stellaris update i always feel like a beginner

[@Spacesharks40k]

I won the Galatron 3rd try. Is it bugged or common? Cause that’s too easy.

[@MrModeemi]

Just as a suggestion, you could name these "Part 1, Part 2...." and so forth, right now you can't tell which order these are ment to be watched just by the title.

[@A_Spec]

They're not really a series, more individual topics.

[@ozgurgocmen8018]

Thanks for your hard work

[@ThisSickGuy]

Is there a reason you built the trade station in a system with no trade?? Rather in say Sol or Sirius where there is trade? Just a bit confused by this new trade system

[@wjzav1971]

If science is everything, why are you not building research stations? Too expensive? Too little effect?

[@jessebrown5247]

WJZAV I prefer to build them later and focus on minerals/energy first

[@D80sman]

Damn that's a good position, lol I usually have to keep starting a new game cuz I like to have good limited entry points... Cuz I'm a camper.. Or tall player in Stellaris terms...

[@TomJunor]

Hey ASpec, is there a continuing video for this particular tutorial? I'm asking since I can't find it in your "Stellaris for begginers" playlist. Thanks, fantastic content. I particularly enjoyed the KZbinrs wars.

[@A_Spec]

It is, and thank you for your kind words. :) I'll be doing more civic specific videos very soon.

[@TomJunor]

Thanks for answering so fast! @@A_Spec Would you mind giving me the URL? Thanks! Hoping to see those civic videos as soon as they come out.

[@mon7600]

I would love to see the flow charts for everything behind this game.

[@rikkilleen3169]

That would summon Cthulhu.

[@mon7600]

@@rikkilleen3169 All praise the great old one

[@rygratreptor5216]

Aspec. Hi again, wonderful video man keep it up. Btw, why havent the dev implement planetside planetary defence agaist fleet. Apart from the starbases. I mean, hey they are bombing us from orbit do we build some sort of canon that can shoot the from our sky and let them suffer some attrition or build more fort and shield and turtle utill our fleet arive or we run out of soldier to defend who by the way only sit on their arses getting shot at... the governer said build more shield and fort cuz the fleet is in orbit and we cant shoot them, they too high up.( forgive on the poor joke)

[@Subjagator]

It is incredibly difficult to shoot up at an orbiting fleet. You are at the very bottom of a gravity well. The amount of energy needed just to make orbit is staggering, let alone delivering a payload that would be effective as a weapon against an offensive fleet. On the other hand all they have to do is basically drop stuff on your head from orbit.

[@Mannydamon]

There is a rare technology that is something like a planetside shield

[@StephanthePelted]

Must the trade hub module be built at a starbase directly neighbouring the capital system?

[@jeremyron8793]

It seems you had yourself too much fun and forgot to explain the important stuff... I've played the old versions and am here to learn about how the new economy system works in Megacorp and after. At 23:50 you start to explain trade value which is one of the new stuff I'm trying to learn about. But then you get distracted half way. After watching the video I still don't know what trade value does.

[@basketcase289]

could you make a video on how the hell to deal with the new pop and planet mechanics?

[@pixelfencer]

13:27 imagine being in the minus This comment was made by the 4K gang

[@DeathenAkuma]

Can you do a video on how to win the game. For example i'm playing a criminal syndicate and I can't join federations so I assume the only way to win is to at 2500 years have the top score? However, when fighting fallen empires for the top 3 spots and after destroying their fleet's they didn't drop lower? Either way would be cool to have a guide like that.

[@Amelanduil]

Erik Marcu you don’t >win< grand strategy games. You just play them until you feel you’ve had enough for your current playthrough.

[@MrDeflador]

Fleet Power doesnt give you points. Technology, Pop, size and economy does (federation only gives you Bonus points)

[@dannypockets]

Are beginners expected to know which of half a dozen precursor event chains is best...?

[@worsethanjoerogan8061]

No, they all have decent rewards and you don't need to min/max to play this game

[@dannypockets]

@@worsethanjoerogan8061 Yeah I thought it was a pretty weird way to start a tutorial for beginners. It's not very helpful.

[@LucianoCrix]

Why doesn’t ASpec build research stations in his empires territory?

[@sonoftheemperor5685]

I speak for the imperium and I say purge the xenos

[@jediarchives7826]

Hey ASpec, I have a question about your tall video. What about ecumenopoli?

[@aturchomicz821]

Wow,what a nerd sentence

[@lavalampex]

You said every system you colonize cost you 1 empire sprawl, but it's 2.

[@opentile_minis8659]

You should ask for peoples save games that are going horribly wrong and try to fix them

[@Cynane27]

I need a tutorial on how to win a war with an advanced faction that hires 13K strong mercenaries. Also I do not understand how to utilise the war exhaustion limit, please help!!

[@tonymack]

why are you sending the science ships to the same systems? it usually tells me another ship is already doing it? maybe im thinking of something else?

[@Stiles0602]

I'm about 40/50 years in with 4 colonies. Can't seem to balance and keep amenities up to a happy way, any advice?

[@A_Spec]

Build enough habitation and leisure districts.

[@KingOskar4]

29:08 may I know what is wrong with Holo-theatres? Maybe it's just better to build them much later? I mean the entertainers make a lot of amenities...

[@KingOskar4]

Nevermind, after listening to the whispering 4 times I finally heard "this is over-building"... Ahaaa... Extra amenities are better only when you can actually afford it (the extra happiness it gives)

[@Gyratus]

Artists are extremely expensive. It's one consumer goods for one... It's insane on early game and even later on.

[@kris8055]

Where is the next episode.....

[@Bill-2203]

Is it right to say that trade value equals energy credits? if so then you could go all out on building trade value and just buy all the minerals and food you need

[@Subjagator]

It is not worth it generally. A single pop working a clerk job produces 2 trade value. There is no tech or building or edict or decision that I am aware of that provides bonuses to trade value, only a single pop trait. A single pop working in a power plant produces 4 energy base, which with some techs and the +25% energy building and an edict or two can bring it to 6/7/8+ energy. Effectively triple or more as effective as a clerk. On top of that it goes straight into your economy, it doesn't need alloy investment into starbases to collect it, or fleets to protect it from piracy. In one game I decided to immediately disable every clerk job and never build a starbase for the purposes of collecting trade value and not having to deal with that has made my games much better ever since. I suggest you try the same and you will see how much quicker your empire develops when you can put those useless clerks to work making alloys or researching stuff.

[@Bill-2203]

@@Subjagator it might make a good strategy if you do the one planet challenge with an ecumenopolis with all your minerals coming from space and energy credits coming from trade value

[@Subjagator]

@@Bill-2203 I never looked into that particular challenge so I am not sure. If you don't care much about pop efficiency then you can probably crank out a bunch of trade value, I was never saying you couldn't. Just that for every pop making trade value with a clerk job, they could be doing something much more useful or productive instead. A single pop making consumer goods and selling them on the market would make you 8-12 energy for example, compare that to a single pop doing a clerk job making 2 energy. It gets worse when you scale it up. 10 clerk making 20 energy credits; or 10 metallurgists making 30 alloys? 10 artisans making 60 consumer goods? Or 10 researchers 40 of each research? I know what I would put bottom of the list anyway. When you get to end game and have no others jobs available and tons of free pops then fine, better a clerk than unemployed. But I have found clerk jobs to be the least useful and least effective type of job overall

[@Bill-2203]

@@Subjagator I guess the question is can you get more from a high pop Ecumenopolis with districts devoted to trade value, consumer goods and alloys or a less populated regular world with food, minerals, energy, consumer goods and alloys. It looks like you can get about 3 times as many people on 1 Ecumenopolis planet but trading for everything will just eat up energy credits

[@Subjagator]

@@Bill-2203 Well an Ecumenopolis is a special kind of world so that does kinda change things if you look at it by itself, since you can't get raw material from it you need other planets to support it. But that doesn't really change anything when you look on the bigger scale. Resettling those clerks on the ecumenopolis to a newly colonised mining planet and using that to fuel your foundries on the ecunemopolis will nearly always be a better option than just having them as clerks. Like I said though when you get to super late game so you have all available planets settled and developed and the only thing left is clerks then yes, it is better than being unemployed but I will almost always want to put a pop to work in any other job before allowing them to work as a clerk.

[@kyrn3901]

Will there be a new series to this?

[@erikjohnson9075]

Aspec, I have noticed (I usually play as Commodore or Admiral difficulty) that the AIs start off as 'Overwhelming' power against your fleet in 2.2 and behave much more aggressively with more negative opinion modifiers...have you noticed this as well. Additionally I tried setting the guaranteed worlds to off and upping the habitable planets modifier to 1.5x yet there doesnt seem to be many planets at all and at 1x there are almost no planets. I have tried these on about 5 runs so far so not that much exposure yet.

[@shadowxgames3606]

Can you do a video about military in the early game as I feel like I always focus to much on my economy and not enough on my military and then I just get taken over but I dont know what to do if you have some advice it would be much appreciated.

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

Focus engineering and Physics trees on weapons, armor, shields, and tech on naval capacity. Starbases are worthless for defense, build 20 corvs as soon as you have tier 2 weapons. Make sure you designed them instead of the AI. You can also make your first 3 buildings alloys

[@erykknowlton3867]

2.2 just came out on console is all this info usable on console?

[@sam9son]

29:11 WTF moment

[@009Trine]

Shouldn't we be setting goals in real life?

[@Abyssionknight]

I was really hoping Minerals would become less important in 2.2 but they really haven't. If anything, mineral generation has become more important, not less. I like that Alloys and Consumer goods exist, but the fact they're basically just minerals in disguise is pretty disappointing to me.

[@thetrustysidekick3013]

I actually like the idea of separate supply chains for alloys and consumer goods, but since we ourselves use minerals in our own consumer goods, I have to say it's more realistic the way it is now.

[@Abyssionknight]

Yeah I know, I just hate that it's still just minerals and energy credits that you need, and that consumer goods and alloys are just sets of minerals lumped together under a new name. I'd rather have real complexity than the illusion of complexity.

[@thetrustysidekick3013]

@@Abyssionknight That might be having complexity for the sake of complexity which, in a game like this, is not necessary. I play Aurora 4x for that.

[@aturchomicz821]

God dam this game looks so good even though I dont really understand it

[@vikrots6167]

It's like riding a bicycle. That has no seat. And flattened tires. But once you learn how to drive it, you won't forget how. Except every year or so devs go "Fuck you, we have changed everything, now you gotta relearn it from the ground up." To put things in perspective, Stellaris is considered one of the more "casual" Paradox games.

[@ivvan497]

What did he say at 29:10??

[@gohunt001-5]

"btw, this is what we're building"

[@adrienspeight1183]

It's a shame it's useless to produce massive amounts of trade value i had a planet producing 200 trade value and it's not worth it.

[@ivvan497]

How is it worthless? Trade value can be turned into unity, consumer goods and energy credits. It can literally make a difference between loosing 100 energy and making 100 energy.

[@Subjagator]

@@ivvan497 Because it is a pain to protect the trade routes. Your capital planet or anything in that system is fine but if you are making 300 or 400 trade value you need entire fleets of corvettes to protect it. One game I was playing I had trade routes worth over 1k trade value. There is a very hard cap on how much stations can protect and they can be valuable assets that you might need on the front lines so to speak. In the end you need hundreds of corvettes on patrol or you just get spammed with pirates all over the place. I like the idea behind it but that bit needs to change.

[@ivvan497]

@@Subjagator Just build proper stations. Your capital station should be 6 hangar bays protecting everything within 6 jump radius and then a collecting station at the 7th jump and repeat. If piracy gets too high then just build another station in the middle. That way you get huge protection but dont have to use corvettes.

[@Hughmong_Us]

@@Subjagator If you have the tech to build gateways, you can build them so your trade goes directly to your capital instead of long trade routes. No pirates.

[@kotzpenner]

In what world is trade value unimportant? In my current singleplayer run, all my core planets produce at least 200 TV each, with a total of over 1500 energy credits a month just from TV, which is ironic since I roleplay as communists.

[@Amoth_oth_ras_shash]

no ,unlessyou play extremly tall in the base game and knows all the tricks to fuck withthe AI behavior...the research wont even leet you close to meet the AI empires size and the production capacity it gives as they basicly dont give two fucks about sprawl as far I know XD.. a soft cap..thats wasted ,after all your a galatic society..yet no one..in your intire society thought it might be usefull with at least a limited amount of resources to increase your administrative capacity ?..aka...your abilit yas a society to direct ,use and handle resources be it manpower ,hardware or software etc ^^

[@makaramuss]

I just wonder... are you watching trump... hearthstone player those thumbnail is way too smiler style with his thats why I ask :D