Stellaris 3.8 Gemini Is Going To Be The Best Patch Ever - SECTOR BUILDING IS BACK!

[@A_Spec]

This is going to be the best patch till date. What do you think.

[@soupmct7847]

Sector Capitals when?

[@AzureRath97]

I don't think anything can top the patch that had planetary automation and autobuild construction ships for me. That was truly a game changer and made playing with more than 10 planets fun. Special shout-out to the patch that destroyed the Battleships only fleet composition though. This upcoming patch still looks fabulous mind you.

[@lanteanboy]

@@AzureRath97 weren't those in literally the same patch?

[@lanteanboy]

as far as casual patches from the Initiative. Hard Agree. As far as completely new content, well.... no real new content so no rating there.

[@Deadsmegma]

@@AzureRath97 wait there are ships you can build that automate your planets? what

[@albusvoltavern4500]

I do not think, and never did think, that armies could be fixed. I don’t think the scope and scale of Stellaris is fine enough to create what many people consider a “good” combat system. This though, this idea that they are doing I think is the best solution.

[@thomaslacroix6011]

The only real solution is to create a system of logistics for armies as complex as the fleet. Basically, as long as you don't have to spend as much resources on armies as you need on ship fleets, ground combat will be able to be bypassed in some manner. And having to intensively manage armies isn't something we want. Increasing collateral damage is ironically the best way to force players to consider what their approach to conquest is. At the end of the day, orbital supremacy always guarantee conquest, but what will remain? How much time are you willing to spend to bombard? How high will the war exhaustion increases?

[@Kasaaz]

I always just wanted them to be ship modules so I didn't have to think about it. This is close enough I guess.

[@chadst0r]

i think armies are fine, but they could introduce more types of unit's I.E high attack units with little staying power and then more front line units and then have phases in combat similiar to how CK3 does there battles, the actual combat imo is fine it's a spaceship game first and foremost

[@noobatgames3321]

What if they tie in arrmy combat with sectors somehow

[@forsakenquery]

They said we can't fix it, let's make it at least not annoying. That's just such a big deal. Good people.

[@drewdidit2627]

Even with no other major surprises or announced features (like internal politics), I'll still be a very happy xeno. All power and praise to the Custodians!

[@gogeta667]

Doesn't COOP give you internal politics? 🤣

[@TheCool_Guy23]

Ew, a Xeno

[@drewdidit2627]

@@gogeta667 It's not quite my cup of politics. Intriguing, to be sure, but I find myself at a loss for the "friends" requirement associated with such a feature.

[@ChaoticNeutralMatt]

​@@drewdidit2627 that's one minor flaw, yes 😅

[@SybilantSquid]

Good news!

[@davidv8825]

being able to set a science ship to automatically do all the special projects i've been putting off is a god tier addition to me

[@markmikolay9019]

I have a feeling that the army receuitment rework is laying the grounds for a full on planetary invasion rework. Fingers crossed! 🤞

[@jamesmartin6719]

Did I hear SECTOR EDITOR YAAAAAAY

[@JThorncross]

SECTOR EDITOR LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@Josh-py9rq]

🙌🙌

[@christianhumer3084]

I like the Auto Research of Projects/Anomalies ect.

[@revan22]

It's nice until your scientist runs into an anomaly 8 times higher than his level and he's stuck for over 1000days

[@lanteanboy]

I feel like the changes to Bombardment will indirectly make Planetary Shields useful.

[@MrVilgefortz]

In terms of quality of life, have they done anything about late game lag?

[@shadowsword420]

Right?! That has been my one major gripe with this otherwise gem of a game for years!! I love playing it, I want to play it, but it doesn’t help that after enough time in a save it becomes LITERALLY actually unplayable with days taking multiple seconds each, have yet to finish one with how bad it gets and they don’t seem to care about, you know, making their game actually *work.* Pop change needs to happen and needs to happen yesterday.

[@brandondanforth8342]

Been waiting for capitol designations for a long time, really looking forward to the auto exploration changes too.

[@aetherial87]

It might be more limited than the original, but the return of customizable sectors is the best thing about this.

[@Novalight2550]

Really looking forward to the sector editor. As they said in the dev post it'll really be nice for Overlord stuff.

[@ShadowTani]

Yeah, there's a ton of notifications I would love to disable. And sure, I don't care for leader level up notifications either, but I do care about what traits they might have gotten. However, I usually instinctively click away the level up notification before I read the "this guy got a trait" notification, thus I have to go into the leader pool list anyway to see what they got. So if that trait notification would actually say what trait it is then that would be lovely.

[@roguegargoyle914]

I've never understood why they removed the ability to edit sectors, very happy it's coming back.

[@flazzorb]

Only thing I want on top of the science ship automation settings is to have them automatically boost research on a planet when idle.

[@blacksabre5343]

"That's impossible! How will the emperor maintain control without the bureaucracy?"

[@muhrks]

We are getting more and more of the old Stellaris back. It is only a matter of time, until the dev's think, a tile-system for planets would be a great idea. =) Love it.

[@Leeman11]

I liked the tiles

[@muhrks]

@@Leeman11 me2. My wife actually stopped playing because of the new job-system. That's, why we still play the older versions from time to time.... also: other ftl-types.

[@Kristaliorn]

Great editing in this one A-Spec! GG

[@A_Spec]

Uhm, okay

[@darcraven01]

the auto surveying improvements are awesome. i can see setting one ship to survey and one to follow it doing anomalies and the like.. makimg sure your best scientists for each role is always sticking to said roles.

[@xuanbachlai5371]

maybe priorities for certain duties too, like how auto-surveying scientist can coop-survey but when the anomaly pop-ups, only the investigate-guy comes over to check it out. eg. I don't want my level 1 scientist to be stuck on a level 5 anomaly but I don't want to dedicate a high level scientist to just investigating anomalies (which may or may not appear at all!)

[@darcraven01]

@@xuanbachlai5371 i mean that may work as well but it might just send your investigator off surveying systems on his own the first chance he gets leaving anomalies uninvestigated when found by the other guy.. especially in early game co-op surveying is less likely to auto happen

[@rampagesun1465]

Aspec, it is awesome to hear happiness in your voice! 😊

[@runes.nielsen2084]

Sounds like they read the recent survey and used some of the ideas in there from us players, thanks :-)

[@killrodx]

The more I wait to play this game, the fancy things keep on coming.

[@SammyDingusJr]

Why wait? Lol it's a fucking killer game

[@killrodx]

@@SammyDingusJr two words: steam backlog ; )

[@dh599]

Thank god and It's about time! The auto sector function sends me insane!

[@pedrolmlkzk]

13:20 Johan finally put some sense back into PDX, Jesus Christ it was a thing two generations ago

[@General12th]

Hi ASpec! This update looks good!

[@terryhiggins5077]

Thank blorgin God, sector's are back to they're proper state! It was what 1.9 where they went away? It's been so long now I can't remember.

[@JWK1101]

I wonder if the Tuesday Dev Diary is an indication that 3.8 is coming soon, so they don't have time to preview everything without doing extra dev diaries. Honestly, I'm really interested to see what they have to show, given how much we got from this one Dev Diary.

[@A_Spec]

They crammed A LOT of stuff in this one.

[@plmokm33]

It's coming like may 2nd I think, it was announced.

[@maxrander0101]

so armies are going the 40k route in that an order is place by the people in charge and the planets then have to fill the order this is a good thing for a player that like me spreads out what armies are built where i always have one sort of army form a single world due to the mods i use that add tons of them and having entire worlds just make one set of troops and having it handled through a shipyard in the sector means i have less problem with remembering which dam army is built where

[@aarondubois6162]

heres an idea, carrier class ships. they have reduced weapon slots but more component slots with special components for them. they can join with conventional fleets and act like normal military vessels in combat. when its time to invade a planet, the carriers can deploy armies based on the components equipped. like extra assault army barracks, specialized army's like siege or heavy troops ect. there could be a bunch of different kinds of armies and army support components like on board hospitals to reduce damage taken, logistics depots for less moral damage, armories for extra damage, just to name a few. they could also have bonuses to bombardment types to support ground troops. and it could all easily fall under the "bombard planet" command for fleets, so invading and capturing a planet could be done with standard fleets and wouldn't interrupt the flow in wars as much. take the system like before and then just have your fleet bombard a planet for a bitt and it would also initiate ground warfare. no more having to recruit armies on planets or space stations and commanding them separately from normal military fleets. all integrated into 1 easier to use mechanic, plus the amount of variability it could afford with the different types of armies and support components you could equip in the ship designer tab. they've already added frigates so why not another new ship type to help smooth out the ground combat mechanics.

[@mikemcguinness92]

Whelp, I've been thinking about jumping back into Stellar is for a while now, guess I'll wait for this patch to release. Hopefully it's soon!

[@phluphie]

I expect that Paradox'll add a building or sumptin that' allows plantes to shoot back at the fleet bombarding it. As opposed to the planet having sit there and take it hoping the fleet will get bored and go away.

[@koshi6505]

There were mods that did this. It was pretty op considering one of the strongest ways to stall enemy fleets were fortified fortress worlds.

[@MrSoresu]

Sector Editor coming back? Praise the effin' sun. ;.;

[@eduardomattosalves4940]

Just for the armies uptade, it will be worth the wait!!!

[@alexmccutcheon10]

I am relatively new to stellaris (only got on board with aquatics), but sectors have been a gripe of mine for so long!

[@Josh-py9rq]

All hail ASPEC and man it feels good to finally get sectors back I missed them 😎

[@revan22]

Honestly how the planets surrender will work looks interesting, can't wait to try again my bulwark build with gigastructures and make planetary defense nexuses and Maginot world truly a world that will never surrender.

[@athena3342]

the custodians are being great to us, whens the catch arriving?

[@Zaela_Zhezzaia]

Capital world changes is my fav as well.

[@WiseStrategist]

For me, what I'm liking the most, is the sector editor, and the army builder I'm hoping the army builder will a precursor for an army manager.

[@Skydust87gerbbn]

A resolution to the resolution would be nice to have . ^^ But this are great news, can't wait for it's release + 2 weeks 😂

[@13KX]

I too like things about science ships, but that sector change will help a lot ....

[@pokeepoof]

Have they changed anything for army production? such as build time or multiple building at once like with multiple shipyards? As it is currently this doesn't really change much of anything I still have to wait an eternity to build an army whenever I've lost troops

[@A_Spec]

There's no auto replenish system if that's what you mean

[@pokeepoof]

@@A_Spec When you have multiple shipyards on a starbase you can build more then 1 ship at a time, have they added anything like that for troop produtcion? So you can make multiple at once from a single planet?

[@GreenHatDispenser]

Oh my science! My RP Empires will be elevated to a new level RP! Praise Paradox!

[@velehksain7999]

Does that mean, the sector-ai is working again, or do I still need to set every planet-ai one at a time

[@dangbar200]

Missing gaseous/pure energy species, it would be surprising not to have them as a species pack eventually

[@nahnanananananana2914]

I strongly believe the sector changes are the best. I miss setting up sectors and funding them, having them focus on certain things; which was impractical at best with the blob of 4 star system distances we got. I really don’t like the surrendering planets deal. You can’t occupy territory without an occupation force. This change eliminates the need for armies altogether if we can just bombard until surrender. It also drastically reduces the use for collosus ships. Now the ascension is only good for total war and quickly cracking crisis planets.

[@BennyColyn]

Build me an army worthy of Mordor.

[@eas2252]

I started stellaris on Xbox. Sector editing was my jam. When my empire resource stockpile was full, I'd dump it into a sector stockpile. Let's say I have a stockpile capacity of 500k and ten sectors. That ultimately means that when I am dragged into a war of attrition, I had 5 million to draw on in addition to my 500k. Hopefully, we can deposit alloys into the sectors in this patch.

[@TemplarWarden]

But does the fleet manager allow you to reroll namelist fleet names? Too many X number fleet from splitting and fiddling.

[@ecogreen123]

as per usual with new updates, i'm only worried about what affects my main playstyle, so far i see nothing wrong so no downsides for me personally. i'm excited for this new update.

[@robjohnson3095]

I'd change the joke just a bit "in space no one can hear you laminate" pretty amazing ui changes... armies a lot easier to manage, I won't have to manually select the scientists I want running archeology sites and the ones doing anomolies, wow

[@SCI-FIWIZARDMAN]

My only hope is that the new Army manager will know to prioritize building armies from planets that have Military Academies. I know in the long run it doesn't matter much but it's gonna be annoying if I go to the effort of designating one planet as my army-construction world because it gets a bunch of bonuses to starting experience and construction speed, only for the army builder to just spawn armies from every single planet in my empire.

[@tomb7942]

The army changes look awesome. Will armies stay on the outliner or will they still disappear at a certain point as they do now? I assume that systems can be added to sectors only if they are connected. Is there going to be a maximum number of systems to a sector?

[@rasser80]

Sector edit got me to look at this, why did they even remove this option from the game in the first place.

[@skylerwicklund1292]

Now my question is can i turn off the toxic terraforming pop up? Its the most annoying pop up in my opinion

[@AizaakThurston]

Does this mean I can just move all my planets into 1 sectors so I can fully ignore the system and only need 1 good govenor

[@Elyseon]

I just want to be able to properly specialize planets into specific production types again. Also the goddamn fleet manager AI sucks.

[@major8625]

finally we moving from victoria 2 building army style into modern eu4 macro

[@darnchacha1632]

I just want a menu similar to the colonization menu where I can look at planet that I can possibly put megacorp facilities on I'm sick of clicking on each individual sector to place one down

[@Goku_Kiyosaki]

i want to get this game, but im on the fence because i never played a game like this, Ive played civs on the xbox but nothing like this....

[@ybwang7124]

oh wow they added a feature that they removed and they call it work. Genius! I wish I could do that to my boss

[@zacmac7047]

Editing sectors manually and turning Toxic Terraforming Candidate popups off. For these 2 abilities I would drop £10 - the actual DLC that will come with this is just gravy

[@Dark1984Knight]

Whats my favorite? All of it honestly... it feels like they did iron out a lot of oddities (missing sector management) and made the whole experience more refined... finally.

[@lionzod6943]

For armies they should just take fleet manager and do that but for armies..

[@nueveocho5511]

Good, now bring back the 3 types of ftl drive

[@Alpha_Digamma]

Army builder sounds like the one in EU IV. Paradox teams should copy more from each other.

[@marklevibetancourt1]

The Science Ships will be the best quality. The Sectors will be great to make Custom vassals.

[@maddic08]

Pog

[@brettstech]

i saw the title. and at 43 seconds you said it. it was enough. the sector editor is back and now i want to start a new game. its like i forgot what joy was and somehow you and the stellaris devs reminded me. also why in the fuck did they ever remove the editor. it was such a bad call.

[@codymar4515]

Roses are red, a Xeno's blood is blue Why waste my time building an army When I can just glass you. ❤

[@justincronkright5025]

I don't like decolonisation/decentralisation on a macro-scale in most games and didn't like it before in this game, so I don't like the min-maxing involved in separating things out between governours... into vassals, etc. I would rather have the generalist form of things where I guide my empire rather than micro-(min-max)manage it. Give a list of governours and I choose which ones to bring in (maybe give them a planet to really focus on), then let the larger apparatus of the empire exist as a series of bonuses or maluses by the wider effects of said empires & ruler(s), etc.

[@roboticintelligenceunit1a652]

YES! Does this mean I can adjust the stars in a sector?

[@A_Spec]

Yes

[@roboticintelligenceunit1a652]

@@A_Spec FOK YEA!

[@Krelen107]

But does it fix endgame slowdown? >.

[@Protect_all_ljf3forms]

Finally we get to reestablish sectors that make sense

[@kareningram6093]

Could you please further explain why the sector editor is a big deal? I don't really understand sectors to begin with and largely ignore them, so I don't understand why editing them matters. But I'm guessing from your reaction that I am missing something very important that I should probably understand better.

[@Miranda17137]

Sector planning is important for making sure that your vassals are shaped the right way. Making sure your bulwark is set up to cover the flank properly for example. You want your vassals to have 6 worlds (10 for gestalt vassals) as this will allow them to species ascend. Generally shaping vassals to cover the right worlds will be really helpful.

[@kareningram6093]

@@Miranda17137 Thank you for responding. Just to clarify, if I don't have vassals, the sector editor doesn't do anything for me?

[@Miranda17137]

@@kareningram6093 The benefits will be much smaller, basically allowing you to more specifically divide your governor bonuses, or if you give individual sectors resources you can control where development happens.

[@kareningram6093]

@@Miranda17137 Ah, okay! I see now why this didn't make sense to me before, because it's very different to my regular play style. But I think I might have to experiment with this more because it sounds interesting. Thank you so much for your help. I really appreciate it.

[@davidmccormick550]

Tip: Play on PC rather than console: It wrecks your controllers. 3 PS4 controllers constantly glitching, to the point where I got new ones, 0 glitches 6 months after deletion. YMMV.

[@joshuaberrien2397]

I love this

[@TrollOfReason]

Why's your empire symbol robotic goatse?

[@A_Spec]

No comment

[@gallendugall8913]

It adds hexagons to the game?

[@Emanon...]

Rally point build is a great idea, but it's had its fair share of terrible AI management...

[@chasjetty8729]

Lament? Isn’t it lament?

[@Akaryusan]

it would be the best patch ever if it was the last one, like holy shit leave the core mechanics alone for a year or so so new players can actually learn the damn game before having the rug pulled out from under them

[@aecirohawke2796]

COPY FLEET.......I'm so happy....should have...sent...a poet...

[@Themrine2013]

so i wasnt tripping that it was gone

[@SiveenO]

Shame that only coop seems to be in the Beta for now. Ah well.

[@thetwentysevenclub_]

disappointed that your tiny mind could only do a tiny bit of sector stuff and not really say anything other than you love it. How about a vid on sectors as a standalone as compensation?

[@SBBurzmali]

So, they are removing armies from the game then.

[@xbane5109]

I played the launch of stellares Till 1.9. than stop because of Economy Simulator increase. Than played 2.7 and 3.1. it was meeeeh. Looking forward to Play 3.8

[@tylerpetersen6226]

Can we please just get rid of sectors entirely and go back to planetary governors and just reduce their unity cost.

[@sirujano177]

Will it come for console 😢

[@Zetler]

I thought Stellaris is doomed and developments are going to stop.

[@MrTeddy12397]

disappointment

[@vangoth74]

Quite sceptical so far. People were "screaming" to get sectors back? Did you pull that out of your rear? xD I'd rather have them work on a better AI, end game performance and very undercooked mechanics that are already there instead of (re-)introducing mechanics the AI will never be able to manage. Hope I'm wrong and it will turn out to be good actually, but the priorities of the devs sure seem weird. Paradox things i guess...

[@A_Spec]

they were, not as much as a army rework (which is never gonna happen).

[@master9147]

Is this going to be paired with the next expansion?

[@A_Spec]

I'm not sure, we've never had an expansion so close after ones release, so I expect it to be a standalone quality of life patch

[@master9147]

@@A_Spec I was under the impression First Contact was a stuff pack albeit the meatiest one ever?

[@kkkkjjjjjeeee]

ANY NEW SHIP?

[@DrkStorm1]

I'm stoked to see custom sectors again. Taking that out was one of the worst moves the devs have done game wise. I'll be happy to turn off some message notifications as well. I've had games ruined just because my pops race got into the slave markets and i got spammed heavy. Drove me nuts.

[@caelestigladii]

That notification is the worst.

[@thefinn12345]

Absolutely agree. The inability to turn off notifications and edit sectors were big issues for me. So annoying.

[@MrDarkx1000]

I never understood why they removed the custom sectors

[@Kandall05161]

@@MrDarkx1000 When it happened the excuse I remember seeing floating around was that the ability to customize sectors was somehow causing lag, I guess maybe because of the calculations for resource distribution and autobuild and what-not? I guess I could see it being a problem in fringe cases, like turning the entire galaxy into one sector, or spamming a massive amount of single-planet sectors. Not sure if that was something paradox ever stated themselves or just reddit BS though.

[@pedrolmlkzk]

@@MrDarkx1000 they were supposed to be a part of the politics mechanics that never came

[@RRSabrina]

Science ships being able to explore instead of survey is my favorite thing. Sometimes I don't want to increase my empire but I just want to see where everything is but I feel compelled to take it when I see how much is available in a system. Ground armies being fixed is also insane and I never thought that day would come. This patch is insane to me. Does it suck we have to pay for DLC, sure, but trade for that we get so many free updates with so many amazing new things we all asked for. 10/10 patch!

[@TheBestMCScavenger]

I played stellaris on launch, and when I saw that you couldn't edit sectors it was one of the few ways that game got worse. I was horrified by the border gore of the new sector system and it was so restrictive, I can't count how many times I've had a sector need to be just a little bit bigger. I'm glad to see they are adding it back!

[@FrenchLightningJohn]

indeed, i also remember when you had the victory goal of owning 90% of the galaxy or 70% if you were in a federation there they removed that and only time victory is enable which is sad

[@terryhiggins5077]

*old man voice* I remember in the before times, you could only jump with a station, build stations everywhere, and the robits couldn't hurt you cause they weren't reeeaaaaaallllll

[@Guardian-of-Light137]

Did I hear notification filtering?! Can I finally remove popups for those STUPID TERRAFORMING CANDIDATES?! I plan on terraforming lots of planets in my playthroughs anyway so I never need to know that literally every planet is terraformable.

[@JamesGangGarage]

It _ONLY_ took them 6 years and 11 months to figure it out!!!

[@TrippaMazing87]

I bet the redacted stuff is new species portraits/city looks, potentially from a new dlc 👀