Stellaris Planet Type Tier List

Which planet types are the best in Stellaris? There are so many different celestial bodies we can colonise; from arid, rocky worlds to giant megastructures that float in the sky. Let's break it down into a tier list to rate the best and worst planets we can live on in Stellaris.
I will be looking at both habitable planets and habitable megastructures in this video!
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:45 F tier
1:58 C tier
5:26 B tier
7:20 A tier
12:05 S tier
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[@grimsprice]

I disagree that motes are the most important rare resource. You only need a few motes to upgrade your few forge worlds. Where as gas, which is needed for each and every upgraded science building is far more “in demand”. A late game empire might be using 20 or so motes total, while using literally hundreds of gas across all their relic / science focus worlds.

[@kotzpenner]

You could say motes are the most imprtant early game ressource and then it shifts over to gas

[@Miranda17137]

Only a few motes? You'll need 15+ to feed a Forge ecumenopolis, and you'll need more than one of those to beat higher rated Crisises. On the other hand, you can counterbalance the Gas requirement for Science by instead developing more Habitats.

[@NewPaulActs17]

seriously, i always have like 20+ motes surplus every month, but it's a total drag with exotic gas and crystals- barely break even or spend ungodly sums of energy to stay positive

[@duncanharrell5009]

What about rare crystals?

[@anna-flora999]

Kinda depends on your fleet design as well, I think

[@quuaaarrrk8056]

I absolutely love Hive Worlds for the lore, the entire world being a part of the collective just seems so cool to me.

[@aquilazyy1125]

It’s a shame that in Stellaris Hive Minds are assumed to be creepy, dominative, and individual-eliminating. I would really love to play as a Hive Mind like Gaia in the Foundation series, where individuals are not forced, but unanimously realized that it is the best for the future of the universe that they should turn themselves into a Gestalt consciousness. Kinda like the Psionic ascension path but that is set to be more related to religion and spiritualism imo.

[@quuaaarrrk8056]

@@aquilazyy1125 I can see what you mean, but I actually really like the Borg, but psionic approach. However, some friendlier, more diplomatic and good for the galactic community and frankly just better hive mind options would be nice.

[@UltimateSpinDash]

@@quuaaarrrk8056 I'd like a cyborg-cooperative. Basically the Borg if they were the good guys (and what I think the Mirror Universe Borg should be if we ever get to see them onscreen). The Unity Saga (a Star Trek / Star Wars crossover-fic) actually explores something along those lines later on.

[@thejumper7282]

@@quuaaarrrk8056 I hate that psionics are religion in stellaris

[@quuaaarrrk8056]

@@thejumper7282 True, that's somewhat of a roleplay limitation (assuming you don't choose to ignore it)

[@B3RyL]

Montu: Gaia World - don't colonize it if it's a holy world. You've been warned! Zarqlan: Ummm... Actually...

[@dynia666666]

materialist with milion fleet power, bitch pls :)

[@KraNisOG]

@@dynia666666 Only? What are you playing on? Ensign difficulty and normal crisis strength? I'm curious what difficulty you normally play on for 1M to be bigger than their fleets.

[@dynia666666]

im using starnet mod and play on admiral setting 2300 year end game with scaling cause vanilla GA is way too easy even on new patch

[@52flyingbicycles]

@@KraNisOG fallen empire fleets are in the 200-300k range. 1 million fleet power should easily handle a mad spiritualist. Heck I’ve done it with far less, albeit after they burned all their fleets trying to humiliate me

[@Unknown.NotRegistered]

No, don't warn them to not colonize Holy Worlds. Everyone should have the pleasure of experiencing that at least once.

[@B3RyL]

It's funnier that way. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bYKbmXSYZ5hjhac

[@GewalfofWivia]

did that on my first time playing lol

[@MarlKitsune]

My first game was with 3 other people, I died before i got destroyers because 2 jumps away was a gaia that i colonized causing the holy guardians to destroy my only starbase and i had no idea how to get more then. An Ai took over my one remaing planet 7 min later.

[@machixius]

I'm feeling funny today, so I'm gonna go crack the world for a little bit of fun.

[@Spartan086]

with my empire, there was an option to just colonize Holy Worlds but with a temporary modifier which made resource production go down

[@sylvananas7923]

Wet world for 99% of species : meh Wet world for aquatic anglers : stonks

[@Interitus1]

It makes me sad because aesthetically I like Wet worlds the most out of the base worlds.

[@shawnlylebond8873]

Then go with them. This list is only his opinion. He doesn't like them because he doesn't like food production.

[@dynia666666]

i played on continental worlds cause of rp and have 0 problems with it

[@gibbcharron3469]

Well hey, that's what Aquatics are for!

[@KraNisOG]

@@dynia666666 Same, I know that the other planets are likely to have higher of X resource, but in my experience, I have better luck getting a planet with loads of minerals on continental worlds than on cold worlds, not to mention how those cold worlds seem to have much lower tiles.

[@aidan8473]

Aquatics makes them very good.

[@jle2500]

Okay 8 seconds in, Titan AE reference? I love that movie and need to watch it again. Edit: when wet worlds were in C tier I called the s tier being the ecu, hive, and machine. Thought Montu would put dry worlds in A though.

[@borsk473]

A minor correction: normal pops don't just have 0% habitability on machine worlds, they can't inhabit them at all. You can't resettle them onto that world, you can't colonize it with organic pops, and I'm pretty sure they can't auto-resettle into it either

[@B3RyL]

That is correct to some extent. Biological pops with the Cybernetic trait, whose owner is a Driven Assimilator can inhabit machine worlds, so can robot pops under either full rights policy or servitude policy with resettlement rights. In that regard, the Hive worlds are more secure, because literally no other pop except for one with "hive-minded" trait can permanently inhabit hive worlds. EDIT: It took me like 5 tries to articulate what I wanted to say.

[@neolexiousneolexian6079]

Isn't that an effect of

[@user-jy8np7zx3z]

**laughs in Driven Assimilator**

[@Stforv]

But you can terraform machine worlds into any type of regular planets with just basic terraform tech

[@maxpont8989]

Step 1: Find the Omnicodex Step 2: Colonise all the tomb worlds around you Step 3: ???? Step 4: Profit from the tomb world habitability on the new pops

[@blahmaster6k]

I found two tomb worlds with advanced primitives on them recently, it was amazing to have them super early in the game.

[@B3RyL]

@@blahmaster6k To quote the immortal words of our lord and prophet, Hannibal: "I love it when the plan comes together"

[@TempestLM]

By that point tou can just terraform them

[@quantjonna293]

Rather have the Grunur precursor.

[@Dan-zg1dq]

Despite hive worlds being alive,and the tooltip literally mentioning they attack anything that touches the surface,invading armies have no problem just... Shooting the ground??

[@Sam-lg3fh]

I remember seeing the description mentioning the world fighting anything non-hive minded. But when it did happen invading armies seemed to suffer no penalty's. It would have been cool if you couldn't invade a hive world, and instead had to blow it up or pacify it to get rid of it.

[@DrApylon]

its a target rich environment

[@dynia666666]

you have 0 habality on hive worlds if you are not hive empire

[@B3RyL]

They attack on hoverboards. Just roll with it.

[@comet.x]

'the entire planet is alive? Good. That means we can't miss'

[@ziioncarrick6168]

"The galaxy is a wide and wonderful place" LIKE MY EMPIRE!

[@B3RyL]

The galaxy IS my empire. The rest of the xenos just don't realise it yet...

[@jakebhenry2228]

Join the Empire, our ships are triangles

[@dodojesus4529]

The galaxy isnt my empire, its my slave. Vassalise everyone

[@rattled6732]

Instructions unclear! Turned all my worlds into ecumenopolises and now I’m making negative in all recourses

[@calebfielding6352]

download giga structure mod

[@B3RyL]

That's fine. Now just conquer everyone else to make up the difference.

[@LCInfantry]

Start your mining habs early

[@peterknutsen3070]

6:50 Funny. I regard Motes as the least desirable of the 3, with Gases being most desirable. Sure, I need a few Motes, but Crystals and Gases are more important. Also, picking a Cold/Frozen home planet type makes a bunch of sense for Lithoids.

[@KraNisOG]

Gasses are definitely the most important as they can give you must more science output. I play a spiritualist empire, and rarely ever have issues with keeping my fleet maxed out, and the strongest in MP and AI games, those repeatable techs actually do start to make a difference when you've reached them before everyone else.

[@luggy9256]

Keep in mind that he means the most important for playing the meta, which is and basically always has been, a tech rush, play the game however you want, learn what works for you and what doesn’t, if you’re always out of one material jn every play through, then plan out a play through on a planet type that provides more of that…

[@DanielRMueller]

I think the idea might be this: Foundries grants your metallurgist a direct output bonus, but require motes. Science Complexes and the like just provide more jobs and requires exotic gases. You can science rush just by spamming research labs without ever upgrading them, and only when you run out of space you need to start upgrading - either way you have to wait until your got the pops to fill the jobs. The Foundry will boost your existing pops. That can make it easier to do win wars by spamming ships. (And you can also afford your colony ships to conquer new worlds to put research labs on.) In the long run, you'll likely need all of them, and you wantot upgrade those research labs, too, of course. In a way, this might be a recent change, because the Overlord update removed the requirements that you first need to upgrade your colony headquarters. Before that, it might have taken longer to be able to build new Research Lab anywhere, and you were limited those on your homeworld and your youngest colonies.

[@davidburton9690]

For the size 14 or below planets, I work towards converting them all to ecumenopoli. I fill them with the housing\clerk districts, and then maybe one of each of the others. This unlocks all building slots, and I usually throw research and strategic resource creation on these to fill them out. This way, I feel like I have enough reasons to settle these small planets and squeeze more use out of them. The changes to unity feel like I have more influence to work with, and it becomes trivial to create them when midgame hits.

[@TailAbNormal]

"If you're going for food you're doing something wacky and crazy!" Am I the only one who likes to make specialized agi-worlds? Just having one or two early-game can feed my entire population while the rest of my planets are devoted to energy and mineral production.

[@gentleshark972]

I always like taking catalytic processing just because I like the idea of being a humongrous agrarian empire. Then all your planets pfoduce food.

[@cptcatf1sh]

This

[@JangoBunBun]

One agri world can feed an empire, allowing you to focus the rest of your planets. It's objectively better to have an agri world

[@basedimperialism]

@@JangoBunBun What, do you colonize like 3 worlds in your entire playthrough???? No way in Zarqlan's black galaxy are you feeding an ACTUAL empire with ONE agrarian world.

[@JangoBunBun]

@@basedimperialism A well setup agri world can feed around 500 pops, which can sustain you well into the mid game. If you gene edit agrarian onto your pops, have a high number of food districts, and use hydroponics/the food booster building you can have a food output of 400-600

[@happyscrub]

😆 I legit laughed at the intro calling the planet "Bob". I usually never laugh at intros

[@smokinggnu6584]

IMO the wet/Ocean planet needs to go a few tiers higher when you're going the Aquatic trait + Hydrocentric perk route.

[@archmagemc3561]

No point, Aquatic isn't all that good, and hydrocentric is just a bad ascension perk since you can get the same with the one that lets you get gaias. They'd need to double the power of hydrocentric if they don't want it to be a worse world shaper in raw output. But the biggest issue is that you can't use aquatics on artificial worlds. If they changed that, then yeah it'd be pretty nifty.

[@keith3761]

@@archmagemc3561 aquatic hivemind devouring swarm with ocean paradise is a amazing start, and your early/midgame makes you a powerhouse, once you get terraforming early your converting every planet for 25% less energy cost and getting 20% extra job output with hydrocentric and your using 20% less housing. Its stupid good.

[@luggy9256]

With the right build any of these planets can go higher, this is for a generic civilisation, that’s what makes the game great, RP ability, build diversity and the ability to do literally any build you feel like.

[@deeznoots6241]

@@archmagemc3561 lmao aquatic is actually broken

[@TakfirEnjoyer]

I have loved your tier list videos. They're clear, to the point, and entertaining. I'd love to see a pop job tier list personally

[@MontuPlays]

That... is an excellent idea!

[@taylorbufkin1591]

I’ve got an idea for the next tier list Galactic Community Resolution Tier List Edit: if that is a little too long you could do the resolution chains instead example:industrial commerce or the one that gives worker happiness

[@B3RyL]

We all know that the yellow resolutions = good, red resolutions = very good, blue resolutions = bad, and everything else makes no difference. Though I'd love to see Montu's take on some of the special resolutions, like the GDF, the Imperial Charter or Crisis Declaration. There's a lot to cover, but it should be interesting.

[@caelestigladii]

I hope already saw the video. 😊

[@wrydfell3932]

I'd put habitats up in the s tier for one reason. If built over a dark matter, zro, nanite, or living metal deposit, the colony itself prodices that resource, *regardless* of whether you have the tech to harvest that resource

[@Lighthammer18]

wtf, why didn't I know that?!

[@RunFromCities]

Ringworlds were supposed to be the great final habitable world that you could make. So sad to see where they went. Regardless of how op they may have been in mp they are basically just not that good in sp anymore because of the nerfs.

[@duncanharrell5009]

What nerfs? (Hopes and prays the nerfs never hit console)

[@thunderspark1536]

True, but you can get the funny research number ;)

[@sirensoulegaming4158]

@@duncanharrell5009 4 Months late and I never played at the time, but from what I understand was that the requirements to restore the ring world were much lesser before the current iteration. Ringworlds are really good for their research districts, since the research ringworld designation actually increases researcher output, rather than just decreasing upkeep. You could create so many research jobs on a ring segment, and since that segment classes as one planet, you get to buff ALL of their research with just 1 research institute building. To get the same effect without a ringworld you would have to build loads of habitats (which get researcher bonuses like ringworlds, but can house far fewer researchers), and incest a research institute on all of them. Main issue with Ring Worlds are that their purpose is self defeating - their biggest strength over other world types is to research, to a massive degree. But outside of cybrex precursor, by the time you're able to build or restore a ringworld you're close to done with most of the tech tree anyway, and you also have the build time on top of that. On top of this, pop growth slowdown means they won't grow quickly - so to get the most out of them you have to relocate loads of pops and repurpose your other planets, or go conquering. Planets you conquer though will already have infrastructure built in as well, and then those would need repurposing. It just ends up being more trouble than it is worth, more often than not. Only reason to play a shattered ring world start now is for a trade build using Mercantiles traditions to get access to a trade federation and loads of merchants from our trade districts.

[@joshuabanner3675]

@@sirensoulegaming4158 I find them useful for tall play styles. Especially when being tall inevitably fails and some awakened Xenophobes completely takeover the galaxy with four million fleet power and it takes until 2550 to defeat them. Repeatable are very handy then.

[@sirensoulegaming4158]

@@joshuabanner3675 repeatable are handy then, and I'm not saying ring worlds are entirely useless. The main issue is that they're "win harder" rather than "make these to win if youre currently not". If you're in a position you can make a ring world, either its too late to make a difference, or you're already doing so well the ring world doesnt affect whether or not you win. Edit: I'm talking mostly standard gameplay, in galaxies where you have lower tech costs and longer till a crisis they could be worth more.

[@jameshildebrand907]

I find one merit to wet worlds, but specifically because of how I play. I do Void Dwellers origin with Non-adaptive. Habitats do not have colony specialization for food production, so I get a migration treaty and colonize a wet world with a species that has habitability and make that an agricultural world.

[@MitchellThornton1]

Great video Montu. Very informative. Time to start turning all my worlds into Hive Worlds

[@BlackReshiram]

i love listening to montus voice its rly calming somehow skdhfkjdfh i also love your content so much montu!! thanks to you im not a noob in stellaris anymore, thanks man!

[@tmytyson]

Glad you opened with a cut from Titan AE, a weird sci-fi animated not-quite-kids movie I saw once in 2002 that is seared into my mind.

[@kfgization]

Awesome into! I loved Titan AE as a child!

[@eax2010EA]

If a fanatic empire bombs an ecumenopolis using armageddon stance, does it turn into a relic?

[@B3RyL]

No, but that would be fantastic from a lore/roleplay perspective. I wouldn't even be mad if it happened to me.

[@jakebhenry2228]

WHY ISNT THIS A THING

[@LCInfantry]

What is a relic? Relics are old as fuck. Your little eco planet isn’t old as fuck when it’s destroyed. It shouldn’t be called relic world…. But something else. Calling your own eco planet a relic is like thinking your cool when you smoke cigarettes at 18. Just cringe

[@frumpsterfire]

@@LCInfantry I dunno, relic worlds are literally just Broken Ecumenopoli so it isn't that crazy to think about

[@The_Lute777]

@@frumpsterfirewell relic worlds contain a bunch of archeotech so a new type is better like a shattered ecumonopolis that instead containd a bunch of normal tech

[@Gilder-von-Schattenkreuz]

Its the Reason why I take the Relic World Start. Its so Powerful to get the Forgeworld early and just have this Giant Buffed Specialist World for Research, Alloys and Consumer Goods. ^^

[@ethanwmonster9075]

I always go for ecumenopolis in mid-game, even if you're negative on minerals you can sell them on the galactic market for huge amounts of energy. They are the perfect prelude to a first megastructure. Matter decompressor + ecumenopolis = infinite alloys. You can have tech worlds that also have enough housing for alloys.

[@wally-squid7069]

I love my ocean worlds and thanks too the combination of Angler and Catalytic processing I don’t need energy districts as my trade covers that and I don’t need mineral districts as my trade covers that as well with a minor supplement from the angler job. Unity goes through the roof from my trade as well. Practically owned half the galaxy in the first 50 to 100 years, never got that powerful so quickly before. Was fun

[@reallylionbastard]

Love the use of titan ae here montu

[@fabiusbilerouge]

Love the titan a e segment. For years i thought i was the only one to see it.

[@skeletalobserver406]

Ah, loved the Titan A.E. ref. Loved that movie in my childhood, lots of nostalgia

[@Khalodian]

I like wet worlds for not only the aesthetics, but them having the most interesting rare events / planetary features, such as Sea of Consciousness.

[@sneakycactus8815]

YES I LOVE THE TITAN AE INTRO! SO UNDENIABLY BASED

[@benjaminknode6268]

Am i crazy for thinking ocean worlds should move up to b tier over the other wet worlds. Having a specific trait that allows for significantly increased habitability on them and decreased housing and increased production makes them way better that the other wet worlds imo.

[@andrespereyraosores4829]

Awesome video! You should try to make one about planet diversity mod tier list. Would help a lot!

[@litchgath]

Thanks Montu!

[@majora320]

I like to use at least one tomb world as a penal colony for roleplay purposes. I can't imagine prisoners trying to escape into an irradiated hell scape without getting into all kinds of trouble. I also have a preference for wet worlds to start on, sure it's not as good for resources, but I like the idea of living on a green jewel teeming with life.

[@varemenos]

Personally i like to turn tomb worlds into resort planets for the 100% habitability. Nothing more relaxing than taking a long walk through the irradiated ruins of a past civilization.

[@Judgenjurygaming]

Would love to see you do a video on how to RP as a Borg, or Star Fleet, or the Galactic Republic etc.

[@verdtre4573]

I had no idea there was a difference between the 9 base planet types. I thought it was just flavor.

[@KG-1]

How cute a 16+ min vid on Planets. Is Montu up for the Pepsi challenge of doing Planetary Diversity in all it's glory😁?

[@Zorro9129]

You forgot the worst planet type: broken worlds

[@0ptera]

Servitor Ecu is the most insane alloy production world possible. A minor draw back for hive, machine and ecus would be the loss of their raw resource nodes, but normal production buildings can replace them easily.

[@Spookspek]

Thank you for referencing Bob, my human hivemind inhabiting a shattered ringworld, Bob's Place, around Bob's Sun. As for the shattered ring: get a bunch of scientists (best with anomaly discovery bonus), survey a bunch of systems, build lots of bases. I never lacked minerals, it was always alloys that put a cap on me.

[@pietercrause5646]

Ocean worlds are pretty good if you choose the Ocean Paradise origin and get the Hydrocentric Acention perk. Terraforming all the worlds you find into ocean worlds is very quick and cheap

[@catfisha1257]

Was not ready for that killer into haha

[@martymartin5302]

I’d like to update your description of the ecumenopolis. Almost no gestalt conscious, including machines (barring rogue servitor or a civilization having the agrarian idyll) can’t build one. I found this out the hard way recently. I just completed the rubicator chain event and got a relic world, only to find out my exterminator robot empire couldn’t build an ecumenopolis. Also, the remnants origin gives you a relic world to start the game and gives you five blockers that give a random tech tree item to near completion. You can transform your relic world capital to a ecumenopolis, but I have heard that it is not ideal to do that as the bonus from a remnants relic world are not as good as a naturally spawned galaxy relic world.

[@Horesmi]

An important aspect to consider about trade is that there is direct trade deals besides the galactic market. And there the meta is completely different. For example food is worth a lot, while energy is very, very cheap. You can often get 3:1 energy to food deals, meaning your farmers are incredibly effective. And most empires produce enormous energy surplus.

[@DeimosLnk]

Montu, thanks for the video. Why not to include barren / molten etc worlds and gas giants? And speculate about possible habitat types?

[@psycholamborghini4828]

I love tomb worlds. They can have lots of mines and all I gotta do is freshen the world up a bit with some terraforming equipment, clean up the old rusted buildings with Mr. Clean, then have Mr. Clean advertisements everywhere on that world

[@philippdrescher6012]

I think you are underestimating the Ringworld or the Scrap Miner Job more specifically. Scrap Miners get buffed by Worker Output, Mining Subsidys and an upgraded Mineral Purification Plant and produce 15+ Minerals and 4+ Alloys with no upkeep then wich is pretty strong imo.

[@Restilia_ch]

Titan A.E., nice clip source, amazing movie.

[@asterisk3281]

Hey Montu, Habitats owned by Rogue Servitor have their leisure districts add bio trophy and an artisan, and in the 3.3 beta Ecumenopolis have administrative districts

[@mariaveenema4337]

xD I always pick wet planets, because Ocean and Jungle make the background look awesome :3

[@slimjim5097]

I love Tomb Worlds with post-apo start. There is also an evnt which will spawn cca 6 tomb words in a cluster.

[@reverendaero]

Tomb worlds are great man, all that lovely radiation and no nasty atmosphere to get in between me and the worm's love GRAVITY IS DESIRE

[@pangean2986]

I like colonizing tomb worlds. The special events are fun and some of them, like the particle accelerator, are useful

[@B3RyL]

Unless it's the solar flare. The number of times I got my planet wiped after JUST colonizing it is not even funny.

[@sjet55]

Titan AE reference? dude need a RP play as this right here

[@CaptainSpycrab]

On my current game I've conquered about a third of the galaxy and I haven't built a single mining district and maybe one or two energy districts. I'm playing as an aquatic empire with Anglers, Catalytic Processing, and Hydrocentric, so I get consumer goods from agriculture districts, can use food instead of minerals to make alloys, and have uncapped agriculture districts. Being the only megacorp in the galaxy helps too, since I can pretty much just spam branch offices.

[@n7xe_]

I'm more astonished someone actually has seen Titan AE. One of my favorite sci fi movies as a kid :D

[@ilyazzar]

Hello there Montu! I have a question about the habitats. What are the requirements for the "geological servey" desicion? I played as a void dweller a couple of times and in the beginning there is no such desision, but later that decision appears. IDK what are prerequisits to issue such decision. does't that desision make habitats even better in the tier list? i mean i get it, 'A' is the highest it can go. there is no way habitats can compete with Ecumonopolises. but still mb place in the 'A' tier would ve been higher.

[@martind2520]

You have to be void dweller and have to complete a certain tradition tree (can't remember which one off the top of my head). Further the habitat can't already have a deposit.

[@bloodyvanguard4052]

The Orbital Surveying planetary decision is exclusive to the Void Dweller origin and becomes available once you finish the Adaptability tradition tree.

[@asterisk3281]

You get it instead of planetary prospecting

[@RoboMuskVsLizardZuckerberg]

I only use tomb world for research planet because of events. It take a while to make it efficient because of either turn it to Ecu or sinth research. If found bunker event. And have pop outcome GOLD

[@gallyxinioch2102]

To be honest, I play Stellaris since the Distant Stars dlc came out and i never knew that the basic three planet types have different chances for different deposits

[@tome1145]

Dry worlds come with the benefit of being the default for the Zroni Precursor Chain. No that picking it will give you that precursor, but the Archaeology Sites are on Dessert worlds (or os I've found in the past), and as inhabiting said worlds gives you the Zro deposit income, the spice becomes a highly lucrative business...

[@NoOnesBCE]

Voletile motes are amazing.... But you really don't ever need masses of them, so I would rate them the worst, as gasses and crystals you usually need tons of.

[@raptorofwar4415]

Wait, what do you need loads of crystals for? I need more motes for Eccumenopolis Foundries.

[@alexandererhard2516]

My experience too, especially since 3.0 hit. I've gone from maybe a 3:5:4 ratio in 2.8 to a 4:8:5 ratio of Volatile Motes to Exotic Gases to Rare Crystals.

[@NoOnesBCE]

@@raptorofwar4415 mostly advanced machine assembly plants

[@dynia666666]

you need lot of gases for labs early on

[@JohndrewtheSylveonking]

Welcome to Planet Bob! One of our most luxurious Gaia Resort worlds! Anywho! In my opinion, I think the only way Wet Worlds could be useful is if you are daring enough to pick Angler Civic for the extra food, trade value, consumer goods, and the infinite farm districts on ocean worlds. Or if you have ocean paradise which gives you a better version of the ocean world at start. Mean while, I’ll just stay up here in space with my habitats where it’s nice and cozy.

[@emjay9688]

Mineral shortages on shattered ring world can be fairly easily offset by extra mining districts, mining stations and technologies, and if possible you'll want to be running mining subsidies to boost both minerals AND alloys from scrap miners. The fact you're getting extra alloys from scrap miner jobs more than offsets the fact you have less fewer minerals to start with.

[@ndl8722]

More! We demand more!

[@xeanderman6688]

*insert Ben Solo screaming more here*

[@connorpfeifer9143]

I'm very nearly done in my determined exterminator campaign, and my main rival empire converted nearly all of their planets into ecumenopolis. I now am a nation that owns 18 of them, and since the only thing machines can build on them is foundry arcologies my alloy production is absurdly high.

[@ninjanoodle0944]

Ecumenopolis always reminds me of Coruscant and Ratchet And Clank. Love it wish you could see the surface properly instead of a picture.

[@JRYYD]

Nice list, may I make the suggestion of a list regarding the different ship subtypes, what is the best of each situation, positives and negatives of each component and different fleet layouts.

[@TempestLM]

Montu has a whole series about comparing different ships

[@JRYYD]

@@TempestLM Thank you for making me aware of that.

[@elkudos6262]

Damn, that was one nice film.

[@pickakespartan]

All hail the promise land "Bob"!

[@B3RyL]

100 years ago, a satellite detected an object under the sands of the Great Desert. An expedition was sent. An ancient starship, buried in the sand. Deep inside the ruin was a single stone that would change the course of our history forever. On the stone was etched a galactic map... and a single word more ancient than the clans themselves... ...Bob. Our home.

[@Turnil321]

Small question. Is there a difference between planets of the same type? I believe that Alpine have more energy districts than other cold planets.

[@alexandererhard2516]

Montu: Volatile Motes are more important than Exotic Gases ot Rare Crystals" Me: Laughs in around 800 Exotic Gases 500 Rare Crystals and 400 Volatile Motes upkeep in the lategame.

[@spun1930]

How?

[@alexandererhard2516]

The ratio or just the amount?

[@spun1930]

@@alexandererhard2516 That amount.

[@alexandererhard2516]

Letting the game go until year 2500 with no pop growth scaling.

[@alexandererhard2516]

At some point, I needed to build lots of Habitats to even have the amount of building slots I needed.

[@Casavo]

Call me crazy but I always go hard on wet worlds as agri production is so easy to convert into anything else you need when maxed out to insane levels.

[@iang257]

Could you do a tier list of worlds from the Planetary Diversity mod?

[@anderkickers5]

I would bump up wet worlds. Exotic gases are important enough for tech that they outweigh the drawbacks of being food dominant

[@sorg3ns]

Another thing worth mentioning is that ECUs take 10 years to complete too and that the unity districts will be even more important considering marketplace of ideas getting halved

[@philippey4918]

Habitats also allow to build buildings that extract one of the 3 rare recources (1building by one unit of recources)

[@TheKarjee]

So many good things happen around tomb worlds, event wise. I hope they rework them with more buffs to pops that endure them. e.g. Radioactive Man.

[@NineWorldsFromDrew]

I was playing a Tree of Life Hive Mind build in an older version of the game last year, and building Hive Worlds across my empire eventually - since I discovered the Gold Disc early in my campaign, I decided as a novelty that I’d even turn nuked Earth into a Hive World as well! But a planet which I conquered in a neighbouring system DID eventually rebel somehow, and joined a rival empire, whilst in the middle of me terraforming it into a Hive World. The terraforming still completed, and…. nothing changed. I had expected all the pops on the planet would die, or something similarly hilarious. But nothing! Has this been patched, in later versions?

[@crisalexcris15]

11:25 gotta love the sector name

[@eric3d2b]

Fun tidbit about machine worlds. If you terraform them with one organic non-cyborg pop, the organic pop dies, and you get a food feature that gives you +15 food a month.

[@Nirob615]

Titan AE was such a hidden gem of a movie. Whenever I bring it up no one has ever heard of the movie.

[@boomstick7506]

I literally did though. When I got the home away from home modifier

[@blitzkrieg8776]

I did not realize they kept/changed back to the 3 world types having different amounts of resources.

[@LCInfantry]

I think it’s one for myth busters to crack

[@enigmaticspace7578]

What about if you have the aquatic trait? That trait gives you trade value for your agriculture districts. Is the trade value produced enough to compensate for how lackluster the usefulness of agriculture districts?

[@UnexpectedInquisition]

Habitat are amazing honestly. Logistically, allows you to super-develop a small handful of systems (probably ones with inhabitable planets already and lots of research and mineral planets and moons). Means one starbase or fleet can defend many planets, provide modules for secret police and for easier miragtion, etc. One gateway can allow access. Etc. My latest playthrough, I ended up going heavy on habitats out of neccessity due to the small number of habitable planets in my empire. I have three systems crammed full of habitats, and a couple habitat outside those "hub" systems where resources were too good to pass up.

[@abepressman2181]

Habitats are absolutely the best choice if you want to strangle your empire to death with high empire size and low resource output

[@jeremygrant1325]

catalytic processors ftw! Make ocean worlds great again! Wait, since when did they let you repair the damaged ring section? I haven't played shattered ring in too long...

[@JarNO_WAY]

colonizing tomb worlds is fun for roleplay purposes; turning it in a penal colony turns it into the worst possible prison in the galaxy

[@axonaty9224]

Tomb worlds are my favorite planet types when I’m playing as a robot, but any other type of civilization I usually just terraform them

[@megaflamer]

psh, tomb worlds are awesome, the events make them more fun, and those events can be beneficial. Although I do prefer them partly because I heavily favour terraforming, and turning them to gaia worlds is very satisfying

[@Xcallion]

What was that animated film at the start where they were discussing naming a planet Bob?

[@ninjakali5137]

Montu: This is what I think of Tomb Worlds Necrons: "Angry mechanical noises"

[@lek7286]

Damn a Titan AE reference?!?!?! Holy crap, thats rare!

[@LargeBlueCircle]

On my last playthrough as a Clone Army, I lucked out to get the Kettlings directly below me: six free populated planets- like they do suck, compared to Gaia worlds, but I really love genetic ascencion, so I was able to turn them into basically tier 1 specie, and with the Baol precursor chain, didnt even have to terraform Grungur. Just turned them all into support worlds for the core system Ascended Clone worlds, swarming with psionic (they start with this trait), erudite, ingenious, natural engineers and fertile kettlings that love basking in radiation. Its cool how everything in stellaris is situational, and while its true 9/10 times things are bad, but every so often we get a play through where a shit situation becomes weirdly awesome! Love this game so much. Ps. The fact that Relic worlds can become ecumenopoli with out the perk I think is also a good reason for why Relic worlds are A tier. If they kept the rare resource plants they would easily be S tier IMO.

[@kuronanestimare]

The only specific thing I'd note is among Frozen Planets, Alpine Worlds would technically the most optimal starting as they have the least amount of chance to spawn Active Volcanoes which are both the most expensive and longest to clear Tile Blocker. I'd otherwise say this Tier List is pretty accurate.

[@combatscape2000]

Is fun how the power of machines/hive worlds is 12 buildings unlock, different from gaia, it show how buildings are important to normal organic empires...