Stellaris - Should You Open the L-Gates

Time to wrap-up the L-Cluster, should you open it?
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[@Razzlion]

"Open the gates, Stop having them be closed"

[@yonokhanman654]

I have a bad feeling about this.

[@reihangohan]

We have guns And boats gunboats

[@hellios5576]

They have corvettes With toperdoes Torpvets

[@overloader7900]

/L-claster starts trying to conquer the east of galaxy allied with space germany/

[@dreamypizza8458]

OPEN THE L GATES! retarded trumpet tune*

[@Amelanduil]

Knock knock, it’s the united space fleet. They’ve got huge ships, with guns. Gunships. Open the cluster. Stop having it be closed.

[@DBT1007]

FA Q USA! Stop intervene other people's business!

[@slender8585]

There was really nothing they could do, so they signed a contract that lets [Empire] visit whenever it wants.

[@Duke_of_Lorraine]

If the gates are going to be open anyway, better be the one to decide when it happens.

[@Error-xd1kg]

I had every L-gate in the galaxy in my empire and i was like oh wow im gonna get some of the better events but it was 7x30k fleet power within ironman mode and year 2319 I have a gambling problem

[@kkkkjjjjjeeee]

i have more than 1M fp in that year

[@Chowzers]

I had something similar happen. I ended up changing my save file to turn off Ironman mode lol.

[@sharpetutor227]

a brave hedgehog You think you had it bad? I was having the best game I ever had with the best fleet, strongest economy and technology years ahead of anyone else. I was in the centre of the galaxy and my empire was organised in three parts each part only had one way in and one way out. Easy to defend and fortify that made all the wars were child’s play and all my neighbours were weak. But I had two l-gates in the left and right parts of the empire with my home world in the middle, witch only had two ways in. I opened the l-gates and it surprised me at first. I handled it ok but I throw my entire fleet in to put a stop to them but got wiped out 6 times over. but little by little total victory was in my hands. Then the war of heaven thing happened and I tried to stay out of it but my fleet was wiped out so I joined one side. Very soon after the unbidden aliens came with my new allie as there first target and they were totally wiped out fast. After that not only did they attack from my right they entered a worm hole and attacked my left too. Best game I ever had and it was more miserable then ever.

[@pauloandrade925]

@@sharpetutor227 damm thats insane

[@jeremybk54]

i haven't opened the gates in my current iron man but i control all of them. my strongest fleet is 20k, so i think i will wait till i have at least 4 fleets of +30K

[@justinthompson6364]

Even the Gray Tempest can be an opportunity. Weaken the other empires.

[@kikibombon22]

unless both gates are in your empire. Then it's weaking x2 for thine ass

[@antaresmc4407]

@@kikibombon22 yea, you'll have the 7 gates or more than half... In that case, you might have most the galaxy and still fuck the others ad you.

[@electrowizard3209]

I tried this, the Tempest just kinda rushed out and killed the Curators lol

[@fieldy409]

Once I remember I triggered the Gray Tempest as xenophiles way too early to stop it, I got an obscene amount of refugees and went straight to most powerful.

[@AndyplaysToday]

It disolved the strongest empire for me I shat myself correction shating present

[@GaldirEonai]

The way I view it, you have to. If you don't open the gate some other empire will. In the shitty outcomes, whoever opened it will have a slightly less terrible time, and in the _good_ outcomes whoever opened it gets a head start on grabbing the goods.

[@Neobahamutfr36]

So true. When it's empty, you're free To claim all the systems and all the strategic ressorces 😄

[@itzmedb8290]

If you’re worried about it being an issue, try to get in contact with every empire in the game. That way you’ll know when someone else is about to open it and you can do it first. Or control every gate and wait to open til you’re good n ready

[@stevenwright1829]

​@itzmedb8290 how do you get control of every gate because in most of my games, the gates aren't even in my borders

[@itzmedb8290]

@@stevenwright1829 War

[@unknownuser4692]

Honestly it's a door it's shiny open it.

[@rodrigocampos2465]

Is more like a huge red button that says *DO NOT PRESS*

[@starfirejordan9875]

always open it or press it

[@unknownuser4692]

@@rodrigocampos2465 Never stopped me before

[@kimaji]

@@rodrigocampos2465 but everytime one sees a red button, u just have to press it

[@JonatasMonte]

@@starfirejordan9875 "Touch it all you want. You'll never find out what it does."

[@nillman]

Damnit aspec... your gonna end up making me play stellaris again.

[@sneezingdog6406]

whats wrong with that?

[@Runetrantor]

Because we are waiting for Le Guin 3.0

[@sneezingdog6406]

why?

[@Giantspaz]

So many Aspec videos I'm in heaven.

[@PerfectAlibi1]

Open the gates in multiplayer and have the other players have to deal with the grey tempest before they are ready. XD

[@electrowizard3209]

That is 10,000,000 IQ

[@lanteanboy]

the first time I opened that Lootbox, I had an empty L-Cluster, which after looking at these vids would be amazing..... were it not for one teensy tiny detail. I opened the Gate on the day Distant Stars released..... aka before Gray and the friendly empire had been added

[@dronewars7186]

I opened the gate when i got all the dlc nothing happened :(

[@Jamie95326]

I've opened the gates 7 times and ever single time it was grey tempest. Because of that I didn't know there was other out comes till I watched this

[@caad5258]

When playing as Fanatic purifiers, having the gray tempest is a great crisis. You trigger it, watch the filthy Xenos get annihilated, then fight your way to the nanite hub and destroy it. So long as fallen empires don't awaken, it's a great strategy to weaken your opponents.

[@vilandar]

True for any play style as long as you dont have an L-Gate close to home. Expand away from them then open asap.

[@silent_stalker3687]

“Oh hey the scourge is being beaten back… let’s see what these gates do” Move into cluster Move capital into egress Split off and make unwanted populations their own empires, move capital to cluster. Destroy the Egress Rebuild megastructures. Finally away from the Xenos. Possibly have a warp gate around just in case you see a opening to take out the empires or seek to become the crisis while nobody can catch you in the L cluster

[@scorpixel1866]

No world shall escape our wrath! Also the midgame need some action beside marauders and leviathans

[@felixmustermann790]

you have wars :]

[@scorpixel1866]

No wars, only pest control

[@felixmustermann790]

play on higher difficulty ?

[@scorpixel1866]

Already did, either spawn next to an overagressive empire that purge/nom/assimilate me before year 100, or my neighborhood is relatively passive and since the game AI walk over cliffs like lemmings all that can be challenging are AE/crisis(multi crisis for life) that are difficult to physically impossible to overcome depending on how much of the galaxy is under control, making the game a race against the clock Really, i'm not even good at the game, multiplayer would whoop my ass, i just can't play decently without the pause button, the problem is that AI are just walls that need a fleetpower "ladder" to climb over, and player snowball is flat out unstoppable because of the AI predictability Oh and did i said that AI are dumb? Like "just keeping my fleet over this troopless world for eternity because the system before it got a station shooting down troop transports, there couldn't possibly be a better use for it like chasing the enemy's weaker fleet actually taking down every of my systems"

[@felixmustermann790]

maybe use these sliders ? :/ i.imgur.com/7Zre6r9.png i think you will love the mid to late lategame sliders ALOT

[@2782Jack]

Ive opened the Lgates about 5 times now. Its been the grey tempest every single time.

[@S_Black]

What could possibly go wrong?

[@andy7666]

Indeed, nothing EVER goes wrong in Stellaris!

[@bobmalone3726]

I wish that depending on what the L Gates contain, clues would be scattered around getting insight.

[@cstains5543]

Of all the times I have opened up the L Cluster I've only once had dragon season, every other time it's been nanite invasion. 5 out of 6 times the worst possible event. That includes what I refer to as the Great Oops, where I found all the necessary L Cluster events to open the Cluster the first time inside the first forty years, prior to needing the tech to open it and having the horde pour out and slaughter everybody.

[@feliks8388]

Totally agree with you Aspec. Having at least a fleet of 20k-30k is the safe zone. It is also a good idea to make bastion(s) (as needed) to the system that has L gate if the gate is in ones empire border, and at the systems nearest to L gates in neighboring empires.

[@-Miasimon]

Every game, without fail, I *always* make a beeline for the nearest L-Gate, claim it, and start rushing tech and building up my fleets. That one trinary in the center with the size 25 nanite world has been my capital, ever since the L-Cluster has been a thing. I'll wrastle any Fallen Empire to the galactic ground, before I give it up. Been insanely lucky, only got the Tempest twice so far. Only got Gray once, but at least I almost always had a fleet of dragons!.

[@mustlovedragons8047]

Enter stranger, and bid in danger. Or wonder till it drives you mad. What would have happened, if you had.

[@Jay2480]

ah, I see you're a man of culture as well

[@mustlovedragons8047]

@@Jay2480 :) Glad to see a a fellow traveler.

[@helios7170]

Really appreciate how much work you're putting in recently. Love your channel and this game!

[@chibidakis1]

Yes. I love making a backup empire there. Especially during a crisis event, or when I accidentally made a covenant pact with the Shroud 😅

[@cvdeiana]

I mean there needs to be more of a warning or indication of the outcome of opening the L-gate. There's no way you can possibly anticipate the strength of the threat coming through the gate the first time round, and for me I had several 27k nano fleets parading around my empire destroying my planets, and around 3-4 more of these fleets directly guarding the other side of the L-gates. It's just too OP, come on man..

[@drkchidragon1]

The Worst that could happen? Murphy decides to come pay you a vist

[@cmdrsoyo7154]

i opened the L-Cluster three times now and i got the empty outcome every time

[@tillweimar]

So did I, feels really bad, right?

[@cmdrsoyo7154]

kinda yes... i had a 40-50K fleet ready every time...

[@edwardheaney3641]

I waited till really late, 3 100K fleets on each L Gate my territory, Nanite Empire, which I just accepted the gifts from.

[@dronewars7186]

I just wanted to kick some ass didnt get to kick anything

[@Bartekkru100]

But the Grey Tempestt scenario gives you free planets to terraform!

[@02091992able]

If you are not ready with sufficient fleet power it can be very destructive to your empire they may not come through the one you activate but they come through every other one and destroy all in their path. My experience has been open it when you have a massive fleet if you can secure the main L system with the gate you can then Blitzkrieg them and destroy them rather fast, giving you time to survey the main star system where the gate is so you can claim it with a outpost and effectively cut off all none friendly empires from claiming the L-Cluster on you as of right now if you own the L cluster you can pretty much get behind potential enemies lines making wars against them far more tipped in your favor as you can use any L-Gate or claim all the systems with them in it and effectively have staging areas all over the galaxy. Not to mention you claim the cluster you monopolize the strategic resources within it.

[@JoshuaGanoTyraxLightning]

I'm always gonna want the Dragon outcome so I can have Dragons...

[@robelmurph]

Well for me I always open the L gate cluster based on the simple fact that I get really lucky apparently because in the dozen-or-so games I've played since the distant Stars DLC came out I've only ever gotten the empty L cluster so I've never had to deal with the gray Tempestt.

[@nocturne.nocturnal]

I did open it and got a visit from several 27k fp fleets. But I had 2 fleets 80k fp each. Managed to destroy half of their forces in the first assault. The second was meh and the third was their end. I wouldnt open without bringing a large fleet to my portal system first

[@Beerpowered]

Some dude made of Nanites joined me. Also something about the worm/Loop keeps happening. Very fun times. 2300 and 3x 40K fleets. Over 300 SYSTEMS. Mega-Engineering is taking forever though.

[@garnettkaruna8767]

I think it's always been when rather then should!

[@barryevans791]

I should have watched this video first. I opened the gate and got the grey tempest when I still had a fleet cap of 20. Game over.

[@nexivy]

It must be fun when a crisis spawns in and you are next to its epicenter and the AI decides to open the L gate

[@meneither3834]

Yes, always, as soon as I can, the Galaxy be damned.

[@silverthedestroyer5321]

With every play through I’ve had I’ve always gotten the gray tempest crisis,I’ve only gotten the grey empire one,the dragons once,and the most powerful grey character once and that was with a robot empire.

[@josephcongdon427]

With how defensive I play and how compact I normally am I wait till titans and then plant citadels on defensive areas and I normally don't have an issue with L gates

[@Tomoose736]

Playing through Stellaris for the first time. Got the Grey Tempest event... But... It said that i was able to prevent the tempest from coming through the gate i activated (and i would be able to use the gate freely), the only other gate is in an opposing empire... I'm kind of thinking i should just let them roll through the other empire for awhile. I have plenty of firepower to take them down if/when they come for me. Any reason i should deal with them ASAP? Or just leave them alone to mess with my enemy while i poop through and conquer the L-cluster areas?

[@khorney202]

In my current game, I have all 7 of the L gate research's done and got a pop up about it. But nothing has happened since that and I am wondering if I have missed something

[@Tranker]

To be honest, I wouldn't pull myself on destroying the Gray Empire, because of how sad it actually feels to have Nanites trying to live normally be gone forever. The poor things just wanted to talk to someone or be with someone other than themselves and their dead creators.

[@advtuto]

'I care not for your little life! Open The Gate.'

[@PhthaloGreenskin]

I understood that reference.

[@imperialexplorer3412]

I was going to open the L-Cluster but my federation got into a war so i decided to put it off incase of the gray tempest, then War in Heaven started and now I'm in charge of the federation that I was in and half the members left to join the Awakened Empires now I'm just considering opening it so if there is Grey Tempest they might attack both other sides to get me some breathing room

[@gallendugall8913]

If you're getting beat up by other empires it can give you some breathing room and access to some nice buffs if you can grab the cluster.

[@wolfianius6037]

Had a multiplayer round where 4 out of 5 people (all newbis to the game) tried playing funky species (me included) for the fun of it. But the last one played a full Meta high Technocrat Spezies (for wich he used a online guide on how to play) and rushed to open the L-Cluster as fast as possible (we all knew that there is a high chance of death by opening these). Long Story short, we had to fight the gray tempest in the early game (half way to the mid game crisis) and most of us got wrecked. After the player, who opened the gates, managed to take the L-cluster through his absurd high tech and thrived of that, the rest of us were basicly thrown back to the start (homeworlds and many colonies were turned into useless Nanite worlds). The midgame crisis (the Khan) was a joke compared to that and was ended pretty fast, by our hit and run fleets and tactics, wich we were forced to improvise in order to survive the gray tempest. In a normal or Meta game of stellaris you can open the L-Gates whenever you want. But for Meme- or Newbi-Rounds, where the goal is to do absurd and funky stuff/learning someone how to play, the rule of opening it after the mid game crisis is probably the best to keep the fun factor high.

[@EnthrallingBass140]

I honestly wish you could choose to destroy L-gates or gateways, especially when you are trying to conquer a system and they just keep jumping from gateway to gateway, circumventing your advance.

[@vukkulvar9769]

In my current game, I have 6 L-Gate and own the other side too. They make traveling such a breeze, and I can lock other empires by closing borders.

[@jmfrrs87]

I have found 2 l gates both of the are in another empire. I am wondering if it is worth it to start a war to get one and if it is a bad like a EA sports loot box let the other empire deal with it.

[@thanhvinhnguyento7069]

I always open it early to screw up other empires and have a backup sector for when endgame hits. Gray is slightly less beneficial

[@peterpott2535]

What would happen if i am the only Spezies in the Univers (whip everyone out incl. Fallen empire) would the awaking empire still appere

[@JonyTony2018]

Opened it a couple a weeks ago, L-Cluster was empty, had no need to fight anyone.

[@TorontoChannel]

1. Capture as many L-Gates as possible in your initial expansion. 2. Build Citadels at each L-Gate in your territory and upgrade them to 25K or more. 3. Station a 25K+ fleet at each of these gates except for the one you are going to activate. 4. Position a huge armada of over 100K(if you already obtained that) at one of the gates. 5. Once gate activation takes place crush the incoming fleets at the gates. 6. Repair ships and defenses asap as another Tempest wave will strike pretty soon after the first wave. 7. Re-buff the 2nd wave then proceed to send the huge armada through the L-Gate and wreak havoc. 8. Now that the Tempest can longer get through to your L-Gates thanks to your huge armada blocking their access, help clean up the rest of the L-Gates that you do not occupy and at the same time positioning your smaller fleets to team up and intercept the marauding Tempest fleets. Once you take out these fleets they ain't coming back if their access is blocked in their own system. 8. Annihilate and conquer those ancient buggers in their home system. 9. Open a bottle of beer, wine, whisky or whatever your tipple may be for you have deserved it and rightly so.

[@BaronVonMott]

Last time I got Gray Tempest, I was the largest military power in the galaxy by quite a wide margin, so everyone else was only too happy to make me the Custodian... and then the Emperor... 😈

[@VaciliNikoMavich]

Ooooh, screwy Gray Goo, you twicked me the *wast* time!

[@JonatasMonte]

You should make a video explaining blackjack, I'm curious now.

[@dragontemplar4561]

I've seen from these video's that there are no habitable worlds in the L-clsuter, so if you were to use it as a life boat for your empire would that require spamming habitats?

[@A_Spec]

Terraforming

[@dronewars7186]

Honestly I opened the L-Gate and got nothing just a empty system i was hoping for a crisis i was so bored i had leviathans ( a additional accension perk) and wanted to kick some ass was so dissapointed that i got nothing

[@homelessjedi2499]

If I paid $10 then I’ll obviously open them

[@anthonymudge9768]

Yo Aspec, I had a game where most of the galaxy, including all my territory, got wiped by the Grey Tempest.

[@SWBF2-2005IsBestStfu]

Damn, I was lucky getting the empty L-cluster the first time playing the game

[@vukkulvar9769]

Naively I opened a L-Gate first. I conquered it all. But before I did, my friend surveyed 1 star system only and found Gray.

[@aoberry8814]

Did i miss something. I encountered an L gate senario where there was an atomic clock set to a certain date. I dont know what it was since my empire fell when playing on ironman.

[@alexandrearagao6050]

It is a clock for a few nanites to terraform a nearby planet in that system, usually to a gaia wolrd. ... or at least that was the outcome i've got from it, not sure if there are other options.

[@Tallos404]

Everytime I've opened them I've gotten the grey tempest aka death by AI ignorance

[@Snoogen11]

When you first activate the L-gate is says something along the lines of: "grey ships are coming through, but we blocked them from entering our gate". Does that only stop the 1st fleet? Or does it permanently mean the Grey goo ships can't use YOUR l-gate.

[@A_Spec]

After 12 months they'll come through your gate as well

[@redamonblood5165]

i was in a 600 planet galaxy and i was the only one to have the l gates and they both where 4 jumps from my capital world and i didn't know about the l gates, and i got the tempests which i couldn't handle cause i was losing more ships then i can rebiuld :(

[@ItsRhaegal]

i found something called a Tannhäuser gate, idk what is it kinda scared

[@NewRepublic4137]

i reload the game and gather fleets, to defeat them. and finally, Systems Alliance got all L-Cluster systems.

[@JD867]

I like to open them when I'm losing a war. If I'm lucky, free fleet power! If I'm not, I'm already defensive focused, and with any luck the grey goo will eat my opponents before me.

[@onchristieroad]

I can't believe I never read that line.

[@isuckatusernames4297]

forbidden lootboxes

[@dragoninthewest1]

In two of my playthroughs, the L-Gate ended up being the Grey Tempest. In my second, my military had been built up from a war my Federation had just waged and I slaughtered them and colonized the L-Cluster. Another time, I got a hold of an L Drake

[@keulron2290]

Honestly never heard of house rules in multiplayer. Though, to be honest, I only play with my friends and our only rule is don’t get destroyed lol.

[@icemanjr.5819]

*Opens L Gate* “I dont feel so good”

[@hellios5576]

Yes.

[@Quintus_Fontane]

So, wait, the one time I got an empty cluster (2 months ago-ish), I got no flavour text or anything, and none of the nanite planets inside were able to be terraformed. Has that changed now?

[@A_Spec]

Yes, it was bugged before, should be fixed now.

[@Quintus_Fontane]

Aha! That's good news. Thanks for letting me know!

[@don8659]

Here ye be dragons

[@nicholasnelson1005]

Worst I've had was a weak AI empire opened it up WHILE the unbidden were taking over the universe and it causes both the abhorrent and vehement to spawn because I couldn't deal with both

[@lukelemasters2354]

Always go for that sweet L-gate nothing ventured nothing gained after all

[@tylergehringer8560]

what dlc do you need for this?

[@SeyferX]

I wish I knew that earlier... Opened too early

[@krane1155]

Bro it like Fighting as the UNSC

[@hinku1822]

I personally like to use the grey tempest to become galactic emperor

[@olegoleg258]

Isn't it more of a question of whether or not it is worth it to open it? I'm already starved for engineering research and the amount you need to open it is rather massive. Without DLCs at least, because only 5000 energy for an insight? Heck yeah!

[@JakeA6956]

open it and purge everything inside even the children especially the children

[@darkeiridan1087]

They said opening up the L-gate would be fun.....yes fun.

[@matthewmcneany]

Me and my bro fought the Khan and the tempest back to back in a recent game, we were backs to the wall for like 30 years straight, it was awesome,

[@scyobiempire4450]

I used the cheat to create an L-Cluster (made a game before I downloaded the dlc), would there be an L-Gate in parts of the galaxy where no one has explored?

[@A_Spec]

No

[@scyobiempire4450]

ASpec ah.

[@Koko-fb6lu]

Why not? What could go wrong? More teritory is always good.

[@EvolutionWar]

ohh i just opened them and got a bigger empire with 14more strategic resources, which include better research speed, all weapons dmg+10%, better food output and a bunch more guess i was lucky then didnt get anything else xD

[@X2X011]

I will never open the l cluster again it makes my game run like shit once it's open, I want a option to disable this from the game.

[@jtr7377]

Well, if it is in a multiplayer match, then yes. If not because you want to for the possible benefits, then do it to spite the others.

[@shadowhunter0]

I always open it I had the tempest once and I kicked their ass

[@jaystrickland4151]

Opening the L gate and sending the grey goo swarms out is a viable strategy if you get cut off early game. It has big Putin energy to generate chaos you can take advantage of.

[@krane1155]

Unless the other gate is in your empire and it that case you’re role playing as the UNSC and watching your worlds get glassed and only winning with Wolfpacks

[@jonathanhamilton6190]

bout to try my third attempt on the l cluster twice i got Tempest

[@panmopsel]

Imagine nemesis crisis in l gate, you just cant do anything

[@matthewmcneany]

Aren't there clues in which events are triggered without looking at the code?

[@A_Spec]

None

[@marconarvaez9871]

Not being able to play stellaris because steam guard is a nightmare.

[@michaelkeeping8040]

I've played enough that I've got them all bit I only recently got the great goo empire and of course I pissed them off. Now I have to kill them to take over the l system and there pretty much like a fallen empire luckily I'm not far behind

[@MarioReischer]

I opened it and some assholes came through it and destroyed my first really good running play..

[@jakecraft5d]

First time opening the gate and got the best ship in the game.

[@BluMacaw]

I just started 2000 star galaxy game on admiral difficulty. L-Gate run will be intense. I just hope I get good stuff.

[@qperci80]

Albert Jachowicz-Brzeziński is that a mod I thought 1000 was max?

[@BriceCapelle]

First time I opened it i found nanite world with nanite ressources. That's all. No aggression from anything :'(

[@TheNavyShark]

When people ask me why did I open up the L-Gate so early in multiplayer, "Yeah, but did you die?"...oh wait they did.