STEN - Comparison in 20 Different Games

[@kraftonunion9424]

3:57 *WinDoWs xP NoT ResPoNDinG

[@noellefestiens9335]

Hehhehehe

[@K2912-w5y]

0:13 let me reload with the same magazine... *magical additional bullets appears*

[@jmscoundrel1323]

K2912 a

[@t___m]

Yuo see Igor? If yuo hold empty magazine long enough, magazine loads itself.

[@kevinbmx2225]

It's the FOV increase. Your not ment to see that.

[@t___m]

@@kevinbmx2225 No shit Sherlock.

[@citizenblu]

Tch. Sten don't work that way.

[@onecaleb9741]

Mp40 - Who are you? Sten - I'm you but sideways

[@joaopedrolima970]

Gewehr98: wh-who are you?! Kar98K: i'm you... in the future.

[@Arik33241]

Actually, it should be Mp3008 with Sten (Mp3008 is german rip off of Sten, the difference is the magazine were loaded verticaly)

[@AppreciatedAsianman]

MP5: Who are you? HKG3: I’m you but T H I C C E R

[@chinanamii]

Mp40 should have said "Wer bist du?" since it's a German weapon

[@phantom_ofvengeance]

And more british

[@oranges866]

Some scrap metal welded together with a magazine on the side really leaves an impact. Quite literally.

[@mrhatman675]

Actually its a pipe with a magasine sticking next to it

[@Slenderslayer351]

@@mrhatman675 I heard that the gun was shit for our army back in WW2 but it was quite useful for the French Resistance

[@mattwordsworth9825]

@@Slenderslayer351 it worked though that's what the British Empire needed. Also it was quite effective for it's intended role.

[@ivan5595]

In more ways than one.

[@sweiboi]

5:43... just no.. That's not how you reload a STEN!

[@Oscar-lb5wi]

Lol the thing on the other side

[@iamstewpit6740]

It the same reload for the STEN in Battlefield 1942.....

[@pchtommy1268]

Thats because is like a battlefield 1942 rip off

[@fahimashab6257]

@@pchtommy1268 mod*

[@swedenspepe2207]

U aren’t reload of sten xD

[@rayclemenes7638]

0:14 Wide FOV problems :/

[@Arutax]

I don't mind. It just looks funny, something you need when you're mowing down Nazis down a Chokepoint.

[@ThomasFarquhar2]

Magicazine

[@sir_potoo]

If it was in Farcry 2, it would slowly degrade to bolt-action.

[@jpegwithallthecrust2649]

holy fuck now i want a sten in far cry 2

[@fnm249sawtoo]

The degradation is Full-Auto, Semi-Auto, Bolt-Action, then Single-Fire Mode

[@thomasromer5369]

5:41 ... pulls the action bolt somewhere else lmao

[@limbercubas]

Lel

[@RedTsarOldChannel-INACTIVE]

Actually it's a the Battlefield 1942's MP28 reload animation. Forgotten Hope it's a BF1942 mod.

[@НиколайКузнецов-ь1ю]

0:19 If you hold the gun like this, it's guaranteed to burn your hand.

[@HocaAND]

Best animation and 3D model but develpers made such a stupid fail

[@gozagymsagoz3193]

It's not fail, because Commonwealths are full of morale and brave to kill all Wehrmacht. These made Commonwealths not to burn their hands.

[@HocaAND]

Head Shot True true.

[@fatman1899]

Николай Славен holding the sten in the magazine could cause jams, there's actually a small area that you can hold but it's uncomfortable anyway

[@Turgz]

Kelthire No. There is no grip or handguard or anything like that. The only way to hold it without being burnt is by holding the mag and mag well.

[@joaopedrocosta4420]

1:47 Enemy Front FPS a WW2 game with closed bolt Sten,very good.

João Pedro Costa Fernandes *BR?*

[@joaopedrocosta4420]

TheBeasT100 yep

[@RedTsarOldChannel-INACTIVE]

Só tem um pequeno erro: A STEN silenciada iria sobreaquecer depois de alguns tiros, então a versão silenciada era mais usada no modo semi-automático,para não gerar sobreaquecimentos constantes. O jogo no minuto 3:28 demonstra bem isso.

[@tashkent561]

@@RedTsarOldChannel-INACTIVE Pois é, considerando que o silenciador é de couro

[@toecheese9935]

4:00

[@superqaxclub]

0:13 What???

[@OmarAli-sy1kk]

lol i just noticed that too i was like "wait what"

[@yourarseismine1016]

Quang Anh Nguyễn Hahahahah! FOV is too high!

[@operator2626]

Quang Anh Nguyễn logic 😂

[@2POWERFUL]

High FOV, or it's in 4K resolution, or both.

[@xmafiaman23]

Quang Anh Nguyễn *reloading* oh wait, never mind lol

[@sillyindon178]

0:43 dang, that recoil is so small

[@mochi9411]

4:19 helicopter sound

[@gabrielbickner4166]

1:24 I’m pretty sure CODEX as a username means that he got a pirated version of RAID:WW2 but hey, not everyone can buy every single game

[@keisorestis6487]

That's exactly what it means, or tigerfield puts a repacking "companies" name as a username pretty often

[@isgodreal1337]

BUUURNNN THE WITCHEEEESS nuggas be like

[@peternehemiah1606]

Raid was shit anyway

[@sayakest]

Excerpt Tigerfield, duh

[@nilihcrevo9820]

Well he did it only for the guns so

[@TruePacifist201]

Holding the Sten by the Magazine can actually damage the weapon and potentially cause a failure-to-feed, just putting it out there.

[@ShinobuSakurazaka]

Possibly but the STEN was designed to be used and abused, my grandfather dropped one when he was parachuted into France. Luckily, he found it shortly after landing and it still worked after a 500 ft. drop so it can withstand quite a lot of punishment.

[@sirankleknocker3122]

Shinobu Sakurazaka imagine if an enemy picked it up

[@hoovyweaponsguy5578]

While that is true a majority of soldiers held it buy the magazine in ww2

[@ShadowCompanyTakaoSquad]

3:28 - RTCW Sten gun with overheat WTF??

[@ovs8691]

Must be 200* outside

[@shikikenju1588]

Silenced versions of STEN were prone to overheating.

[@pchtommy1268]

Its not really overheating it jams

[@brodiewaldrop4784]

@Pete r actually soldiers shot it full auto if the knew they were going to be spotted just in case

[@clessidra414]

yep

[@afarayha]

0:45 xylophone

[@ReckerFidelWOLF]

My favorite SMG in any WW2 game.

[@ahyesname5978]

I know nobody asked but my favourite is the thompson

[@efrendalex899]

My Favourite is MP40

[@Sierrawavemp4]

mine's the Thompson

[@cyborgnuke6130]

Mine is the m3 grease gun

[@katakansayaganteng8455]

Mine's Barrett .50 cal

[@matthewschoppa5413]

Cod 2: Hold on, mate, I don't have another bloody magazine! Forgotten Hope: I want to test my new Jedi powers on cocking this bolt. RTCW: Are there 15 more barrels shooting than I thought? Day of Infamy: *Guys watching this guy hold his Sten* "Holy crap"

[@mixulu3474]

0:14 When you realize that you don't have any magazines left

[@Samuel-vw4yv]

Magic will help

[@riko_z9962]

0:20 i hope this guy has a strong finger,otherwise we could smell a fresh meet fry on this guy

[@SCP--jk4vi]

RikoAzusa - ***meat or you could've said flesh🤦‍♂️

[@snafu1433]

The barrel shroud isnt actually connected to the barrel itself. But its unconfortable.

[@masahirosakurai3733]

RikoAzusa - well he’s not going to hold it by the barrel and cause jams

[@Termileon]

In the British Army they learned to hold the sten like this. Only in Movies and Videogames they hold it at the Magazine. If you hold it at the Magazine there is a high chance of Jamming.

[@anarchyorslavery1616]

@@Termileon or just hold it by the magazine well

[@wintermanthenforcer]

You wicked piece of vicious tin! Call you a gun? Don't make me grin. You're just a bloated piece of pipe. You couldn't hit a hunk of tripe. But when you're with me in the night, I'll tell you, pal, you're just alright! Each day I wipe you free of dirt. Your dratted corners tear my shirt. I cuss at you and call you names, You're much more trouble than my dames. But, boy, do I love to hear you yammer When you' re spitting lead in a business manner. You conceited pile of salvage junk. I think this prowess talk is bunk. Yet if I want a wall of lead Thrown at some Jerry's head It is to you I raise my hat; You're a damn good pal... You silly gat -Ode to Sten Gun by Gunner S.N. Teed

[@rifath8152]

Winterman This is gold

[@okmate]

Haha, this is awesome.

[@richie_23]

Ah the Sten, your a Gem and Junk at a same time. cheaper than dirt but reliable as fuck.

[@lankydoodle]

Beautiful

[@omskc_gb4728]

It's like friendship

[@GenPellizzaroCSMGDF]

Lot of games get the STEN hold wrong, in real life, using the mag as handle can cause jams or falure to feed, cause while you are firing the weapon jumps and vibrate, it can cause the mag that is hold to dislodge and extract a bit so it won't feed the cartridge in the chamber, but jamming between the receiver an the firing mechanism. (Sorry if I misspelled, English isn't my primary language).

[@Nsodnoajdjksl]

But that's how they held it back then.

[@flippinfudgeyt]

4:27 bolt is on the right side buddy!

[@SQUIRKY10]

The sten must be flipped Lmao.

[@markulyssestabasan3064]

The Sten is my favorite Submachine gun in design overall. It looks so distinctive from the other SMGs with the magazine poking out the side. It's a cool looking gun.

[@TreacherousFennec]

It's neither the first submachine gun with that feature, nor the last

[@kennedy072]

COD 2 Logic Remove the mag and put it back in, Ammo Refilled

[@baphydevil3830]

kennedy072 increased FOV

[@SCP--jk4vi]

kennedy072 it seems like that, but the player is actually dropping the mag and quickly grabbing a new one

[@dioxide39]

Smg in tf2 also has the same reload logic xd

[@idealzain4l404]

FOV m8

[@themetavirus]

Game was intended to run 4:3 aspect ratio. That's why you see the model looking as if he's putting in the same magazine.

[@senioritaescalanta8476]

Sniper elite 4, vietcong and day of infamy... In thoose games you can se how you should be holding Sten, holding when you are holding it's magazine you can make sten jam.

[@Turgz]

Joseph Karniwal And you will get serious burns on your hand if you do that. Holding the mag is the only way to effectively hold the gun. It really won't make it jam.

[@georggrech5924]

Callum Turner Except that thing on the barrel is heat shield, so it shouldn't get too hot. Nonetheless I'm pretty sure both grips were used

[@inferno350]

Georg Grech Not completely sure but I think the heat shield was only on the mk2S, so if the sten is mk1 or 2 you have to hold by the mag.

[@Turgz]

Georg Grech Exept it isn't. It's called a barrel sleeve and does not vent hot air so it gets very hot. There was reason why a leather strap was issued to cover the sleeve for you to hold it. It may be alright for a couple of shots, but one you start using the thing properly the metal will simply get too hot.

[@Turgz]

infireyinferno 11 Mk1s had both a hand guard and grip. Later models didn't have any kind of guard or grip.

[@MaxwellAerialPhotography]

There is so much wrong with many of these: closed bolt operation, more recoil than a full auto G3, holding the magazine.

[@chewylord]

The Stengun is the standard sub-machine gun for the British Empire (Uk)’s British armies during WW2. With a mag on the side it is quite comfortable to wield the weapon and since it’s very short it allows you to go in large speeds. The gun is conflicted of 2 sides being low recoil, fast fire rate and high recoil, low fire rate. I agree with low fire rate high recoil.

[@aarango3552]

Even for a game from 2005, COD 2 still holds up substantially. Definitely a lot nicer to look at than some today. For example, I'm surprised there's arm hair on the player's character seen here using the sten along with roughened texures on the gun itself. As much as I adore San Andreas, it's hard to believe that COD 2 came out the year after SA. (I suppose the better graphics is due to it being a fps and SA an open world, though.)

[@linkfreeman1998]

Forget about Cod 2, compare SA with Half-Life 2 which is literally in the same year. SA only wins cuz its open world.

[@marckcf9600]

Do not ever compare a open world game to a linear fps

[@tardarsauce1842]

MP18 looking at Sten Gun: *Seems kinda sus to me*

[@elfranko1217]

I just wanted to point out that the Nailgun in Team Fortress Classic resembled a STEN gun, but I don’t think that would’ve counted for this video.

[@grainingrice7033]

3:06 Sounds like magnets hitting eachother when played at 0.25x

Yes bro😆 lol

[@cocosrevenge]

The Sten was also added as one of the final DLC weapons in Black Ops 3, I got my hands on it when it first dropped.

[@Arutax]

0:01 It's Funny, because I use this SMG all the time in CoD2, besides the MP40 and PPSh41.

[@TreacherousFennec]

Best "better than no weapon" ever

[@kikokltzhke8266]

1:23 I don't know what this game is, but I actually think the way it shoots and the sound effect of this game's Sten seems satisfying.

[@Жойлес]

It's basically Payday 2 but in WW2 And with dead online

[@LongNguyen-qg8yj]

Same dev as Payday 2

[@richardsavings6690]

This should clear things up: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iHqwoZ2LlsuMhqs

[@Chris-iw9uz]

Forgotten Hope 2 looks amazing for 2007

[@judsongaiden9878]

A British recruit would get chewed out by his gunny for holding the mag like a foregrip.

[@Nsodnoajdjksl]

STEN manufacturers: Sir, we told the soldiers to hold our STEN by the magwell, including the mag.

[@judsongaiden9878]

@@Nsodnoajdjksl Some of the more upscale versions had a proper foregrip.

[@Nsodnoajdjksl]

@@judsongaiden9878 STEN manufacturers: Guys, since when we did an upscale version?

[@judsongaiden9878]

@@Nsodnoajdjksl (Mk.5)

[@Nsodnoajdjksl]

​@@judsongaiden9878that doesn't count, that doesn't f@#%ing count!

[@FAIZAFEI]

KZbin search : TAR21 KZbin : oh u gotta be talking about sten, here is the video

[@natebud5701]

I like how the guy in Black Ops pushes the screw to pull out the magazine instead of the big obvious button.

[@ospreyphil8995]

Tbf you can only use during a mission where you’re playing as a Russian so he may not know how to use it correctly

[@patchesix5848]

If you fire the sten while holding onto the magazine I hope you step on thumbtack.

[@steveman0420]

America : heroic weapons Germany : future of assault rifles Britain : water pipe with a mag

[@mansilla4638]

Comparison AA-12 pls

[@ovs8691]

Medal of Homer all the damn way boi

[@a.c.2499]

It'll be next don't worry

[@e.m.gameplay6363]

or SPAS-12

[@ronaldraygun5089]

Also appears in Dead Trigger 2 as the Sten MK2 Silenced Roblox in some games as the Sten gun or Sten Gun

[@nickaluscalixto9500]

Just watched the cod vanguard trailer. The sten's bolt goes back all the way to the rear. Sledgehammer doesn't know how guns work.

[@Nsodnoajdjksl]

All COD games are not suppossed to be accurate, but if they are, it was on purpose.

[@chazymondo7766]

5:40 WHAT? DID THEY THINK WE WOULDN’T NOTICE? At least in BF classic they put the slide on the other side to fit the animation. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@SQUIRKY10]

It's an old game was released 2006

[@Ahmed-wo1ws]

5:08 best FPS ever

[@Vokmoknavi]

I love how it can only shoot damn 6 bullets in a row in Wolfenstein before overheat

[@amp8295]

I'm surprised nobody noticed the sten's bolt immediately closing after being locked open at 6:16. Had to do a double take to make sure I'm not dreaming.

[@randelealcoranarcilla642]

The Sten Submachine Gun was used by the Filipino guerrilla and resistance fighters during World War II from 1942 to 1945 was fought by the Japanese was occupied in the Philippines began the battle.

[@deixos2224]

Stop it,get some help.

[@randelealcoranarcilla642]

During the Japanese Occupation, the Sten Submachine Gun delivered from Great Britain to the Philippines was used by local Filipino guerrillas was fought by the Japanese during World War II.

[@VeryTerrySR]

The fucking british used it thats all we need to know

[@mr.formal6723]

I'm Filipino :D

[@mr.formal6723]

Also a thompson too :I

[@alirwec]

RiP to all those soldiers who held this gun and died for their country

[@paulsitt]

As of 2021, that would be virtually every one of them 😔

[@MurrayCampbellOfficial]

I find it weird how the sten from call of duty black ops 1 was not included in multiplayer, this also goes alongside the ks 23 shotgun

[@PuFFieS13]

I remember the time when I always yelling at the mid reload in cod2 that he's inserted the old mag..

[@DieselD7101]

3:28 Man, the silenced Sten from RTCW was awesome.

[@theazuzhaters9988]

Gotta love all the stens ejecting 5.56

[@predetor911]

The Sniper Elite games show how to properly hold it.

[@ive_mclost_my_account_oh_n2566]

The sten is just an angry Pipe

[@systemshocker2875]

0:14 dude,lower your fov, the clip is showing.

[@Aggeloukos83]

Lewis gun in different games

[@xaviercouoh2750]

You should do a Flamer Tank Explosion comparison in different games

[@iamstewpit6740]

5:35 Ju-Just watch

[@lenguyenkhoi913]

sgt Hale107 i know right?

[@sanctuaryjester]

He chock the bolt action in the wrong side

[@Nsodnoajdjksl]

@@sanctuaryjester literally counter strike references in other stuff

[@Nsodnoajdjksl]

Yeah, I see firing.

[@shupp6267]

man, games really don't get how open bolt guns work

[@yfrank5919]

Wow, day of infamy suddenly looked beautiful

[@thickmomson]

In forgotten hope 2,recoil makes you turn 360°

[@nazmayesmin3384]

Suppressor sten be like 0:43 on a gas fire

[@fegelsoldat2092]

0:04,0:15 fake reload He didn't change the mag

[@familyofsavag4406]

It's a 2005 game genius. I don't know why people put their FOV like this and complain.

[@Nsodnoajdjksl]

Except the empty reload. P.S.: Nothing is fake if it's in the game.

[@alextowers3564]

It hurts to see the way a lot of these are being held

[@capturedskunk7698]

Never thought there would be 20 games that has this gun

[@SuperPerry1000]

So I recorded a grand total of 4.5 examples of holding the gun correctly here.

[@Turgz]

Perry Martin If burning your hand is the correct way to hold it then yes.

[@oron61]

I saw 0. They all held it by the mag, or the barrel, not the mag catch or receiver.

[@Turgz]

oron61 If you hold it by the receiver you won't be able to control the recoil. The only way to hold it effectively is by the mag and/or mag well.

[@snafu1433]

www.quora.com/What-is-the-correct-way-to-hold-a-STEN-gun-Wouldnt-the-barrel-sleeve-get-too-hot-to-hold

[@mattwordsworth9825]

British soldiers held the magazine while firing. Only way to reliably use it without burning your or getting hit by spent brass.

[@jianng7795]

Most of these games got the way of holding the gun wrong. Your hand are supposed to be behind the magazine housing, not the mag, that will only cause jamming after a few uses. Pretty much only the French resistance, British Commandos and SAS held it that way, the French being lack of training, Commandos and SAS being to hide the silhouette of the mag. You aren't likely to see a regular British infantryman holding the Sten on the mag.

[@Turgz]

Jian Ng You don't holt it behind the mag because you won't be able to control the recoil. You may as well be holding the wire stock or not holding it at all. Look up photographs of british soldiers. They all hold the magazine.

[@jianng7795]

You don't even bother to Google do you... goo.gl/images/oPW6DG goo.gl/images/qKFfj9 goo.gl/images/NF9RN9 goo.gl/images/pWpUk1

[@ThePineappleKnight932]

Callum Turner its a rather heavy 9mm smg that has a rather low rate of fire. It's not going anywhere. You probably actually could hold it by the stock and be accurate. Though you might shoot your foot.

[@TheBladeGuy522]

WWII was the best time to develop a new weapon.

[@leeknow953]

Im not asking you but its that the gun that henry stickmin used but failed in the mission ,,the diamond,,

[@souravdas4759]

Even today also sten gun is used by Indian Army but it s modified version of old sten gun

[@jacemarks5888]

Dang Forgotten Hope 2 looks realistic for a game made in 2007

[@Zarii37]

I wonder why you have used with STEN MkIIS in Forgotten Hope 2, if basic MkII version is even easier to obtain on most of the maps and more corresponding with the rest of the models.

[@jeremyortlepp8000]

Love ur vids

[@N-GinAndTonicTM]

I honestly forgot the Sten was in Black Ops for a brief moment.

[@jamsya493]

0:15 hey I’ve heard this one

[@docbrowning]

It always concerns me how in CoD Classic, the guy clicks the magazine release to reload but in CoD Bo1, they don’t click it. I know it’s two separate companies but I mean come on, ones in 2003 while the other is in 2010. That’s a 7 year difference right there. Still love both games!

[@Aggeloukos83]

Musket in different games

[@imin2461]

Forgotten hope 2 has really good grapgic for a 2007 game

[@Aggeloukos83]

M24 in different games

[@sniper9786]

the best way to get your ass chewed up by an NCO back in the day would be to hold the sten from the magazine when firing. Never do that.

[@Turgz]

AJ Othwal So you expect to hold the shroud and get burnt or behind the mag so you can't even hit anything? Look up pictures of british soldiers in combat with the sten. They all hold the magazine.

[@mattwordsworth9825]

British soldiers held the mag while firing.

[@ivan5595]

A 'junk' gun that was really important just like the posh (in terms of construction)

[@the_jones528]

Day of Infamy.......man what a badass game.....

[@lorenzoianotto4572]

Anyone noticed that BF1942 and Forgotten Hope have the same animation?

[@Kentagumo]

Me personally, I just hate it when the character doesn't use the mag as a side grip.

[@ManinTidyWhities]

Of course, Raid WW2(like Payday 2) recoil is like an earthquake

[@ChubbsterBrown]

I love how these, what I'm guessing are Source, games' weapons climb with continuous fire. Keeps firing 9mm smg, camera points directly into the air. Do the shooters eventually just stop shouldering their guns? 😂😂

[@snafu1433]

Noah Hudson-Dawson Sten from Day of Infamy is easy to control.

[@Antimanele104]

RTCW - the first shooter to portray the character holding the STEN the right way.

[@eatyourbeans3490]

Forgotten hopes graphics were actually pretty good compared to its time

[@idealzain4l404]

3:28 I think the STEN doesn't jam that quick

[@wilhelmzegota6744]

It isnt jamming, its overheating, it was a pretty popular problem in silenced mk2 bois

[@idealzain4l404]

@@wilhelmzegota6744 thanks for the tip

[@audii-kun6431]

3:15 THIS ISN'T AN MG

[@anonanon5627]

Does the Sten fire from a closed bolt?

[@noidea4223]

Gabo Gaze It depends on the model, some are open some are closed.

[@ovs8691]

Best Model: Day of Infamy Best Sound: Day of Infamy Coolest looking: Call of Duty 2 Best Reload: Call of Duty 2 Best Sights: Day of Infamy Most Historically Accurate: Day of Infamy I would have given the best Reload and Best Model to Call of Duty WW2, but the only way to get it is through Lootboxes, therefore I understand why it's not included. #FuckActivision

[@Garcia1995]

teh tjoppie Wasn't the Sten given free to players during Winter siege? I don't play CoD WW2 so i don't really know. But yeah, fuck Lootboxes and any kind of microtransactions.

[@Immolator772]

DOI everything actually.

[@wintermanthenforcer]

teh tjoppie Ey, two of my favorite games are selcected by you!

[@ovs8691]

Winterman That's a very interesting selection of favourite games

[@wintermanthenforcer]

teh tjoppie Well, for Days of Infamy. I have love-hate relationship with it. Some maps are way too easy to spawncamp, added by the fact that here in SE Asia servers people LOVES to spam grenades and rockets.

[@axb3542]

0:14 *realistic*

[@ovs8691]

ovuvuevuevue enyetuenwuevue ugbemugbem osas Just shot 32 rounds outta this here magazine, its empt- hold on there's another 32 rounds in here

[@axb3542]

teh tjoppie 😁

[@mcbombacz6450]

Old game.

[@warriorgt7gr222]

Fov

[@DanB_68]

5:39 he pulls the wrong side with no charging handle are you serious?

[@DamnClone]

Would the 9mm for Frost is Rainbow 6 count or must it be named Sten?

[@DamnClone]

Marcus Macena Alright then...

[@flanekplicha8685]

Overheating Sten in the Return to castle Wolfenstein is the funniest thing I saw today. Unless its loaded with depleted uranium rounds. It would kinda make sense then.

[@louievelayo4100]

Actually, a suppressed Sten overheats much faster...

[@krychur4956]

only problem I have with some of these is holding it by the magazine. not good for the gun.

[@Nsodnoajdjksl]

True, but that's how they held the sten back then.