Stephen A. can't believe Max puts Giannis above LeBron: 'You have lost your mind!' | First Take

Stephen A. Smith and Max Kellerman debate the top two players in the NBA between Los Angeles Lakers star LeBron James, reigning NBA MVP Giannis Antetokounmpo and the LA Clippers' Kawhi Leonard.
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[@ericadeduro]

I cannot wait for the NBA to come back

[@donnadunbar5342]

Warriors winning 2020 title 🏆

[@BrandonGiordano]

Gonna be a fun year to watch

[@anhz52]

Lakers gonna tank again lol

[@enterzync2630]

Donna Dunbar you’ll be lucky if they’re even in the playoffs

[@scoundrel_9966]

Donna Dunbar go back to the kitchen

[@jayyyhammm]

They giving Lebron fuel to kill all season long

[@brucesuckemoff795]

What's he gonna do activate playoff mode again gtfo

[@theunpopularopinionatedten4951]

By ranking him 3rd? He deserves that ranking for now.

[@truthteller5521]

Playoff mode “activated” huh? 😂😂😂😂😂

[@og_mante5138]

SuperPunch76 Well all great athletes envision themselves as #1 so it kinda is fuel

[@bryanescalera793]

Lieanna Rodriguez Harden is next on the list for getting to the finals after being the closest to beating the GSW💀

[@frankyp4227]

giannis is a nice player, but he got exposed in the world cup by anderson varejao lol. He needs a jumper than we can talk

[@Blkac-pill-Black-Life]

Franky P faxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[@keandregreen5628]

Franky P lebron barely has a jumper now😂

[@ajj774]

Franky P Time-out how? Giannas was dropping like 15 a game that’s like 30 for World Cup standards

[@kyledickinson1931]

Ke'Andre Green you don’t watch basketball do you?

[@ajj774]

Kyle Dickinson Why get offensive?

[@ThatGuy5.0]

LeBron misses the playoffs and everyone forgets how good he really is

[@nogamenolife1901]

People would always try and do something to forget how good he is.

[@FlaminHotCheetos-02]

Idiot, he played in the last several games to make the playoffs last season, LeBron can't be the best in the world when u don't play defense, it's a two way game

[@tombrady-ny2zs]

@@FlaminHotCheetos-02 you just saying that because He's old LeBron in his Prime is a Great Defensive player and the best Player in the NBA

[@kaiserrintarou5619]

KING TOPGUL well he certainly does play D now good D to be honest

[@plonker2819]

LeBron is very good at the game but he isn't the goat. For people to say that he isn't good is a lie but for people that say he's the goat is just simply not true

[@MrFeeds27]

“Max speaks” Stephen A “time-out “ 😂

[@MrAVGNdude]

MJ did not stay on top forever Kobe did not stay on top forever Lebron won’t stay on top forever....

[@adnanbegovic2290]

@@swolegod7724 thats funny LeFraud

[@christianmandigo5108]

but they declined lebron hasnt given any indication thats hes declining lebron put up 28 8 8. 28 8 8 is better than his career average!!!! at 35!

[@MrGenexxx]

@@christianmandigo5108 no indication of decline? so Lebron always played zero defense? good to know.

[@VillyVille]

Obviously

[@BrotherKellerman]

Tarantula Guy that’s ridiculous lol, lebron has never reached the level of mj I’ll say that with confidence, but to say that lebron has never been at the top of the nba is just plain wrong.

[@Gaffo23]

Is it just me or are max and SAS debates far better when Molly isn't there to interrupt them

[@man2kar]

Ryan Gavigan is she gone?

[@aaronwright1621]

No...molly is fine...she can interrupt me anytime!

[@projectworld4023]

Ryan Gavigan I almost can’t believe my eyes! I am splashing water in my face! Wow, Molly gone? It’s finally a debate and that is music to my ears! Yay! 😂

[@user-cx1kb4jr4t]

Yes! Even the women ( don't know her name) interrupted Max in a good way without forcing her opinion

[@donovanpitts6907]

Aaron Wright 😂

[@DaYungSinChrg]

“You have Lost Your Mind. LOST YOUR MIND!!” 😭

[@whizkid00000]

If GSW won Kawhi wouldn't be top 2, period. Love his game but KD and Klay being hurt was what hyped him up more.

[@SaraTBV]

Yea and harden shouldnt be over steph and neither should AD

[@michaelshaw1868]

@@SaraTBV AD is about to be scary good. Never has he had a super star with him to accelerate his game let alone someone like lebron. It's hard for a guy in the 4 spot to be the leader on a team yet AD still put up insane numbers. Can you imagine what he's about to do now that teams can't completely focus on him

[@SaraTBV]

@@michaelshaw1868 that's all fine and good but he has to show it tho in no way should he or harden be over a 3x champion

[@michaelshaw1868]

@@SaraTBV but the list should be based on what they believe they're going to do this season. Not past accolades especially because although steph is amazing those chips were a team win not due to just him. Although I think this list is much different if kd never got hurt and they won I understand why lebron isn't 1 or 2. I think he will be the most dominate player this year because he's going to have that killer instinct back due to all the doubts but based upon the end of last year he can't be considered better than at least Kawhi. Now the Greek freak is a different story. He's exposed and has to prove he can adapt

[@jakeman025]

If anything it took away from what he did not hype him up more. If he would’ve beat them at full strength the entire series it would be a different conversation

[@sheeeeeeesh54]

When Ros bit her pen at 4:33...GOODNESS!

[@MrEarla273]

Marcus Sam bruh lol

[@GuyBehindAComputer]

Was about to type this too. LOL

[@spyfox9796]

She want sum of SAS

[@grant8257]

"Kawhi Lennid"

[@spyfox9796]

Grant 😂 lol

[@pdaddy6975]

😂😂

[@calebhobbs2604]

This is excellent 😂😂😂

[@tombrady-ny2zs]

Grant Learn How to spell

[@grant8257]

Michael Jean look right above your head, you'll see the joke that went over it.

[@bigmacncheez1775]

Can someone tell me what AD did last season that places him over Steph? Steph should be at the 3-5 spot especially after carrying that handicapped roster thru the playoffs last season

[@nedzhminedkov1159]

ESPN on the Steph disrespect as usuall. AD's accomplishments come nowhere near Steph's

[@MrAVGNdude]

BigMac N Cheez they’re gassing up AD because espn wants him to carry Lebron to the top of the west and win a ring ASAP

[@nedzhminedkov1159]

@@MrAVGNdude AD is the most overrated player in the league man i swear. Man has made the Playoffs twice in 7 years, hasn't even had a 50 win season yet, no MVP's, no DPOTY but we are gonna put him ahead of a 2xMVP, 3x Champion. Yeah i got you ESPN

[@lastofthestarmakers6800]

AD has probably become the most overrated player in the league ever since last year's rumors and especially this summer.

[@Travion728]

@@nedzhminedkov1159 it's going by who had a BETTER SEASON DUMBASS IT CLEARLT STATES THAT! Its NOT by who has a better career

[@kobebryant9801]

2019: Lebron at 34 averages 27-7-7 in 55 games on a bad lakers team while dealing with injuries and misses the playoffs but he’s still the best in the league and the GOAT and some argue that he’s MVP every year... 2013: Kobe at 34 averages 27-6-5 in 78 games on a bad lakers team while dealing with injuries and made the playoffs but didn’t finish top 5 in mvp voting or player ranking. Nobody called kobe the best in the league but Lebron gets to do the same thing and still be the goat lol Lebron had his time. Somebody else has to take the throne

[@rayflacco3980]

Real basketball fans know Kobe is better than Lebron. Don’t listen to these kids and the media who are paid off by Klutch Sports

[@FKS1994]

The difference is that was one of Kobe's best years statistically while that was considered an average year for LeBron. Don't bring up a Kobe vs LeBron debate. There isn't much working for Kobe there.

[@jaywaz680]

FKS1994 What? He’s comparing Kobe and Lebron at 34 and shows how Kobe is better at the age of 34. Kobe’s peak was 2006 not 2013 he just put all of will power on that season. Lebron is gonna regress and is done being the best player in the nba

[@trix507]

Ray Flacco not true... only Laker fanboys and Lebron haters think that..

[@MrAVGNdude]

jay pierre that’s not what he’s saying. Kobe at 34 balled out but wasn’t considered the best because of age and younger players like Lebron doing better. Now the shoe is on the other foot. Lebron did his thing but we can’t call him the best when other players are doing better than him individually and team-wise. Dude is 34 now and he’s only gonna get older. It’s time to pass the torch to somebody else.

[@jaygangster8048]

Max is delusional😂. Bron still best player in the league. Don't @ me Lakers were clearly going to playoffs last year if he didn't get injured and lost all momentum.

[@jaylynsacrez4450]

That is true. They were 4th in west until he got injured.

[@hope92hf]

WHY SAS is hating on Kawhi give a brother some love For Once

[@kb4231]

He wasn't hating

[@Trey_W]

I love Kawhi but he ain’t as athletic as Lebron in his prime.

[@delroyterrelonge6085]

people tend to hate the unknown. so kawhi will always be seen as an underdog

[@damilareajani5747]

Tod Wilkinson Kawhi isn’t as strong as lebron no where near the passer and facilitator is, also lebron is a better scorer actually won a scoring title unlike Kawhi, 4 time MVP unlike Kawhi, only thing Kawhi does better is perimeter defence, lebron is a better post defender and shot blocker

[@damilareajani5747]

Tod Wilkinson lebron is a playmaker, Kawhi doesn’t monopolise ball because he isn’t a skilled enough passer, lebron is good enough to play point also on the cavs it was built to have multiple shooters while lebron found them wide open, which is why they went to multiple straight finals, also what young players has Kawhi helped developed? Seeing as lebron helped develop kyrie and kuzma

[@Valkross9]

Stephen A is inconsistent. "If KD was healthy, I'd pick him." So he penalizes KD for being injured. Then when it comes to Lebron missing the Playoffs, "but he got hurt."

[@luke7277]

But KD's injury is more serious and he isn't playing next season.

[@Valkross9]

@@luke7277 Yes, that's another thing. Between the lines SAS is saying "when KD gets back, he'll probably be the best in the world." But we don't know if KD will come back as great as before the injury. We know what Lebron came back as after the injury, and he still didn't get his team to the playoffs. People keep bringing on the consecutive finals appearance by Lebron(in the East). I get it. Lebron is one of the greatest of all time. But age catches up, and we're talking about right now. Would people say MJ would still be top 10 if he played now?

[@cali2432]

JuiceboxNine they leave KD out of the mix cause he won’t be playing next year lol, lebron will

[@donald4203]

He recovered before the playoffs still got the chance to make the playoffs be they failed

[@donald4203]

He maybe has the chance to be the best again but right now he aint

[@stonelove9048]

Don't they consider defense? I do!!! Soooo naw, Lebron's not number 1.

[@cormel6895]

Lillard shouldn’t be above George then

[@aphilip327]

Cormel lillard locked up westbrook all but one game of their series.

[@BubbaGoon08]

Levine’s hustle and effort is gone. He will wait and conserve energy for a perfect block or steal but forgets that defense is all about hustle and energy. I believe the best cornerbacks in the NFL should have little to no interceptions because the ball shouldn’t be thrown there way if there man is covered.

[@FireAngelChris]

Lol y’all only care about defense when it’s convenient

[@stonelove9048]

@@FireAngelChris Bro, you can't win in any sport at it's highest level without defense. There's no getting around it.

[@dragonnight5555]

Did you anybody even see this top 100 list, they put Klay at number 49, and KD, Cousins, and John Wall aren’t even on the list

[@drujackson-xc3ur]

Rahat Ahmed that list was tragic

[@Brendenlmack]

There all hurt

[@roydagoat6902]

How they gonna put jokic over damian after he beat him

[@KleinpeterHank]

“He”? Portland beat Denver. It’s a team game. 🤷‍♂️

[@paquinraino8180]

to me they are both underestimated, they both should be higher

[@brian27610]

Kawhi is the only player that has made lebron physically upset when he checks in

[@kylinmooney167]

Bavar Lall kawhi is not better than Lebron period

[@spurs_7798]

I love the casuals with their "Kawhi is overrated" lol Shut up and witness Jordan Jr play.

[@christiannieto9827]

Lance Stephenson did this the year before playing on the Lakers. Draymond Green gets into lebrons head as well. Lebron has always been weak minded

[@ronronyjerardo]

Kawhi's overrated now because of that trophy

[@TheSwagIsBack]

Spurs_ that’s why he overrated. He not Jordan jr.

[@frankdube9100]

Thank goodness Ryan Hollins wasn't here for this debate!!!!!!!!!!

[@sylvianacolin8851]

DubeHD that's a good one 😂😂😂😂👌😂😂

[@pinoyexpat1609]

If Giannis and Kawhi could bring a team to a finals with just Delavadovah as partner then they can dethrone the King.

[@samuraijack10]

You forgetting that Kyrie was also on that team. He got injured in the Finals

[@gena4ka]

Jannis will take his team with next best player Middletown to finals

[@Jaysolate]

Every time Stephen A Lies His Hairline recedes

[@maxtrigga9952]

Max kellermen is actually smart

[@ronnyjoe230]

The way Kawhi did Giannis He was great until he met Kawhi He ate Giannis' lunch I hate people who don't watch basketball. Kawhi didn't shut him down. He was triple teamed constantly. Walls were built around him. Kawhi being the primary defender, but not the only. Watch the games max

[@theheart9681]

cant believe i found someone with some common sense in this comment section, cheers bro

[@docrussojr]

You mean Kawhi, Ibaka, and Marc Gasol.

[@WeKNOWTHETRUTHITSUNDISTPUTED]

Checkmate some not all series

[@WeKNOWTHETRUTHITSUNDISTPUTED]

ronny lopez people disrespect the raptors ability to play team defense gasol pascal ibaka green Fred vanvleet did great I thought on curry kawhi team was great at defending

[@ronnyjoe230]

@@theheart9681 cheers man

[@217ShowOffBoii]

People have a hard time ranking players season to season. They always mention their past success

[@titoaskeladd2639]

Yo.. It's not like I'm agreeing on anyhthing here, but 3:09 was lowkey savage for me. 😂😂

[@tryme2245]

Stephen A contradicted his argument too many times. But how can you utter that Leonard got smoked against KD that year when he was playin they were up 20 and they lost when he went out for good? THATS BLASPHEMY

[@MrWahad958]

He's talking about when KD faced Kawhi while he was in OKC not with the warriors

[@smoothkk1]

Max defeat his own argument with his opening statements smh

[@michaellepe1406]

The Raptors didn’t beat the Bucks because of Kawhi, but because of smarter coaching

[@mitchdrippy4724]

Revival Michael yes they did

[@rolandomacias9472]

Negative they beat the bucks cause of khawi locking down giannis

[@123nowguy]

Lol nah because of kawhi

[@jaydot4956]

Please!!!! Kahwi had Giannis on punishment in the ecf

[@ragincanadian5090]

The title card encapsulates this show perfectly

[@alieucamara8525]

I think Max just says these things sometimes to get Stephen A tight 😂🤦‍♂️🤷🏿‍♂️💯

[@docrussojr]

By the end of the season, Steph Curry will be back in the "Best player in world" conversation.

[@Travion728]

Your capping

[@KB24isClutcherThanMJ]

He already is

[@Travion728]

@@KB24isClutcherThanMJ u dont watch basketball obviously

[@KB24isClutcherThanMJ]

Travion Holt Steph Curry is top 3 with Giannis and Kawhi easily, he’s the most impactful player in the league, his presence alone terrifies defenses.

[@rods7028]

Nope

[@AbdulRashidYakubu]

Funny thing is, I think Ros Gold knows more basketball than Max and Stephen A combined. She should definitely have more if a voice on b-ball topics

[@KB24isClutcherThanMJ]

Abdul-Rashid Yakubu stop it brother

[@AbdulRashidYakubu]

@@KB24isClutcherThanMJ she was a star baller in high school, played well at Stanford and covered the Warriors as a sideline reporter for many years. Her resume in basketball is better than even Stephen A's. That's facts. Nigeria wanted her to switch to play for their women's team a few years ago

[@kendallboultsjr]

You’d be setting her up to get the Molly treatment bro. Don’t do that to her😂😂

[@travistravis7190]

Lebron played 55 games last season. The Lakers won 37 games. The season before without Lebron even on the team they won only 2 games less...35 games. How is Lebron even in the top 5 or top 10 players when he improves a teams win tally by 2 games? Kawai takes Toronto to a championship in the same season Lebron improves a team by 2 games. Steven A is nuts

[@derrickevansjr3564]

Max and Smith was speaking facts

[@jchaney229]

Gianis had a better playoff season than Bron did last season

[@brandonbarrows2284]

SAS: MAX!!! Stay off the WEEEDDDD

[@synchronium24]

That statement was dumb when SAS said it originally and it would be if he said it to Max here too.

[@sylvianacolin8851]

Brandon Barrows 😂😂😂😂😂

[@pippuanaki4794]

Stephen a been pulling max basketbball card 4 da longest lol

[@saz19s8]

The thumbnail says it all 😂😂😂

[@tyronetyler2622]

Wrong wrong the clippers can’t. Be the best team in basketball until proven.

[@qceaz11]

Stephen A is right with his hypocritical self smh

[@ballaboveall905]

Finally steven A talks some sense

[@djs10261026]

I'm a huge lebron fan (Im from Cleveland). But cmon.. if anyone watched last season, just based on the eye test, Kawhi, Giannis and even Harden all played better than lebron.. people just have a hard time admitting it

[@saucegodnas7318]

New team, new coach give him time.

[@Daniel-rd2wh]

Playoff Lebron’s still #1. He plays defense then and is better than anyone else offensively

[@johnhancock1362]

Dan 3 we wouldn’t know bc he didn’t make it this past year

[@armanc25]

Lebron is better then kd and Kawhi offensively in the post season? You’re insane for that

[@jarvissledge9717]

Lebron still plays at a high level but he is not the best player in nba

[@ryanw.3185]

@@armanc25 better than kd? Ughhh debatable. But better than kawhi? Absolutely yes

[@armanc25]

Ryan W. If anything it’s MINOR, and that’s just half of Kawhi contributions so I mean I’m still going Klaw

[@snickyg1717]

Smith, please tell us how Giannis received the MVP award'

[@simonpark2912]

Being the best player on the best regular season team. Doesn't mean he's the best player though.

[@samweltan3353]

Why is it so bad the LBJ is just 3? Why is that disrespectful? He's the only one in the top 10 that didn't make the playoffs last year! The list is giving him major respect!

[@samweltan3353]

Except for ad

[@rodneytorres1410]

1. LeBron 2. KD 3. Kawhi 4. Curry 5. Davis 6. Giannis 7. Harden 8. Westbrook 9. Embiid 10. Lillard

[@truthteller5521]

HOW IS LEBRON RANKED NUMBER #3 WHEN HE’S RANKED #334 IN DEFENSE??!! DEFENSE IS 50% OF THE GAME??!! YOU GOT PUPS LIKE KUZMA PUSHING HIM TO PLAY DEFENSE! 😂

[@subzerofromny735]

Jason Martinez but yet James Harden deserves to be top 3? And lebron shouldn’t be top 1,000? Gtfo

[@montaycuh9633]

*Lebron finna dunk on the refs this season* So much disrespect lol

[@Beastmode650]

Lol like lance Stephenson

[@sylviahunter4826]

As the game changes who will be the best will change too. Everyone seems to forget the older players in my opinion to this day Bill Russell is one at the top Chamberlain Kareem. 11 rings I don’t see anyone ever beating that.

[@RELLMGN]

Harden over steph??? AD over Steph ???

[@Travion728]

Yes

[@delontewest6353]

The media hates Steph. Nothing new

[@aaronb4407]

Strange both being above him with no evidence to back it up

[@alieucamara8525]

Max Kellerman must be banned from drinking 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

[@spyfox9796]

Alieu Camara 📠 Brother

[@seniorpoop3189]

I'm sorry but lebron is not top 2😂

[@janeerrodgers1434]

Astoban Dingleberrys are you high?

[@GMighty]

Janeer Rodgers really high

[@richardpietrzyk5062]

He's lucky to be ranked 3rd, u gotta play on both side of the ball to be the best 🤷‍♂️

[@konradschwalger9301]

When he says in the 2018-19 seasonthat the reigning FMVP is not a top five player and then ranks Kawhi number 1 this year

[@reaganingram9661]

The list doesn’t show number 1 and 2 that means it could be Isaac Bonga

[@antoniotucker4708]

Giannis antetokounmpo is not past LeBron James at this point in his career he had a major breakdown in last year's playoffs he let kawhi Leonard single-handedly 1on1 man-for-man out play him to go to the NBA finals and also capture the NBA championship he wasn't ready to be a champion but he has a MVP trophy sitting at home that belongs to James Harden he had a major break down in the playoffs he needs more time to grow as a basketball player this year will be his proving ground which I don't think the Milwaukee bucks will win the Eastern conference championship this year anything less than the NBA championship this year spell disaster for giannis antetokounmpo that's my opinion and I'm sticking to it 🤔

[@mlg2781]

KL has to prove this year how good he is. KD if healthy would have killed him. Thats a championship with an asterix

[@PubsYT]

Kawhi,KD (If he wasnt injured),and Giannis are the top 3.

[@robsmith6650]

Since KD our LeBron should be number 1

[@jarvissledge9717]

When lebron can win a championship like kawhi holla at me cause he won with no superstars

[@davidruffin1823]

Boom!!

[@riverjao]

In all honesty and kindness, this statement is waaaaaaaaaaay too ignorant to even deserve a response.

[@raelindzey4272]

So we gon pretend KD Wasn’t injured And klay ain’t miss games

[@jarvissledge9717]

I get that but injury part of the game

[@seffangelo1898]

Best nba player right now in NBA is KAWHI LEONARD! No question. 🔥🔥🔥

[@julianbryce31]

max has a point here were talking about 2018-2019 season lebron wasnt his best.. he missed crucial free throws last season, so i agree that kawhi is no.1 and giannis is number 2 bec he was MVP... he can always go back to number if the lakers wins.. just last season he was not the best yes!

[@TheZayzkidd3]

Even as a Pelicans fan, I must say that AD (when healthy) is the 2nd best player behind Kawhi. He is a more polished version of Giannis.

[@smoovemoves95]

When Lebron got swept in the 2018 finals, he lost the “best in the league” title. Lesser teams led by lesser players took games from the warriors in those playoffs. 2 of the 4 finals games could’ve gone either way and the cavs didn’t win a single game. Yeah GS had KD but NOLA, SAS, and HOU stole games from them with KD. Lebron gave up on that series after they lost game 1 in 2018. That doesn’t sound like the “best player”.

[@Shuggy]

I'm sorry but that 2018 Cavs squad was fucking useless. Imagine comparing the Cavs to the rockets that year

[@thehomedipo9761]

Shuggy It was a squad that Lebron himself put together.... You guys make so many excuses for his failures...

[@trix507]

The Home Dipo Lebron chose to have Kevin Love as his best player and George hill as the next best? Lol

[@smoovemoves95]

Shuggy the pelicans were worse and they beat the warriors lol

[@smoovemoves95]

jay pierre they won a game lol. The rockets won 3 games. The cavs had a chance to win games 1&3 in the finals and still lost. The warriors were good af but not unbeatable

[@cHEdDaRdaB3ST]

Idk if LeBron makes everyone around him better if he destroyed the chemistry.

[@The_M0st_High]

What Chemistry?

[@gangmusic2741]

c0w g0es m00 fact

[@The_M0st_High]

What Chemistry?! On last yrs. LAKERS?!🤔🤣🤣

[@NK-mr3rh]

Lebron ranks no.1 on all time box plus minus, and a full point clear of mj at no.2. Its going to end up being one of those stats that is untouchable. Thats why people say he makes everyone better

[@isaiahwilliams7032]

Kawhi locked lebron down and got the spurs a title, he clamped KD in the series between the warriors and the spurs (he got hurt obviously but everyone say KD getting clamped down hard) he just absolutely took giannis lunch money and stole his girl but hes not the best player in the world? He left his team and won a chip, he put up over 30 points per game in the finals and playoffs overall and everyone knows the defensive player he is so were not even gonna discuss that and hes about to win another ring. Hes the best player as of right now and he will eventually go down and one of the greatest NBA players of all time.

[@renju252]

Y’all can debate who the best player for this season is. But once the Slim Reaper’s back there is no argument.

[@Born2Win7774]

I get what Max is trying to say but if Giannis doesn't control the east like LeBron by him self then no he's not the best but kawhi is a different monster.

[@lockinn-8612]

*My legal name is jayden* Stephen A: *You see, here’s why you’re wrong and why*

[@SummerAwe99]

Kawhi somehow gets more credit for beating the Warriors than Lebron. Kawhi beat them AFTER: - joining the 1 seed - KD getting hurt (back to back finals MVP) - Klay getting hurt 'destroyed the NBA universe'.... please

[@sebastianguerrero9109]

This is like in soccer, messi and ronaldo both have been in the peak of the game for 12 years and just because a dude scored 30 goals they disregard them both, while in the same season messi scores 50 and cristiano 47 (goals)

[@11thWoods]

So Bron don’t like SAS cause he doesn’t believe he’s the GOAT?!? Lol That’s weak Bron... smh

[@JusSick24]

"1 moment of disappointment???" I'm sorry, but he only won 3 out of the 9!!! That's 7 moments of disappointment. And to not make the playoffs is the worst, since LeBron "makes his teammates better", which has been proven to be a lie, last year. Stop it.

[@williambison9772]

Kobe didnt make the playoffs in his prime and wasn't injured, the media is out of control

[@isndkltmpst]

1) Bron, 2) KD, 3) Giannis, 4) Curry, 5) Kawhi

[@edr.2642]

Wow Kawhi will be at no 1 spot! Heck yeah!

[@Mikeyb.__]

Its not about who's the best in the league they going off who will have the better season

[@123456CBOY]

Right

[@emacliftsalot]

fake yannis here

[@shawncarter4609]

Kawhi’s leadership low key underrated, as a raptors fan, this guy showed us how to do it when it matters most

[@Judgedsafe195]

Kawhi needs to be kissing KD’s wheelchair...this entire summer would have been a different conversation if KD was healthy...

[@rods7028]

Well Kawhi wasn't healthy either. He just happened to grind it out without going down like KD...I hope KD comes back just as good

[@umeshnatesan2048]

kissing klays knee as well.

[@samcapocyan8195]

Congrats, golden state missing one of their 5 stars is an excuse now apparently🤷‍♂️

[@oliverflowers3933]

Sam Capocyan and plus cousin was not a star last year

[@oscaralvarez247]

How is a guy who didn’t even make the playoffs expected to be number 1

[@jaydot4956]

So if you put kawhi on a bad team with no shooters and a bunch of second year players in the western conference would he make the playoffs? I'm just asking?

[@Exhibit_C_me]

You know it's bad when Steven A has to defend LeBron James..💯 Max is one of those people you have to straight up IGNORE when they talk basketball..💯

[@PandaPod14]

Klay should have been in the top 10. I would take him over Dame

[@Top-Kek]

Role player. Klay can't do anything without curry on the floor

[@bigmacncheez1775]

Top Kek You mean the role player who can drop 60 in under 30 minutes? Or go off in any game 6 elimination game?

[@KingMickD]

Klay has never lead a team as the 1st scoring option. Dame is a better player.

[@tyroneparker1497]

@@bigmacncheez1775 klay plays in a great system. He gets the most open shots in league as a star player he is a all star for his shooting and defense but he can't run a offense and be a number 1 scorer. When Steph sat and he and kd played they lost more games and klay was inefficient without curry.

[@calvarius7able]

It's like people don't understand what being the best player right NOW means. Nobody is saying Kawhi is better all time wise but he is at the moment. The guy just had one of the best postseason runs of all time and actually lead his his team to a ring. Meanwhile LeBron didn't even make the playoffs last year and it's clear he has took a bit of a step back (especially on the defensive end).

[@iastrothunder5925]

lol Dame at 9 is a reach 😂

[@ericv4380]

Remember what SAS stated these are projected for the end of this upcoming season. They think Dame goes up another level and that’s definitely possible.

[@JA-yd1hm]

Dame gets better every year. You are clearly a casual fan that doesn't actually watch games.

[@wolfstrong2535]

Dame dominated Westbrook in the playoffs series and ended OKC championship contender and OKC went rebuild mode now

[@mrrickstur]

Dame at 9 is just right

[@rileyfreeman9726]

ur talkin bout dame being number 9 but u aint talkin bout mcollum being 13th?

[@bishopbhmg3882]

LeBron gets hurt and misses the playoffs now he ain't the best player in the world?

[@prettyboyerin8879]

Bishop BHMG he still had a chance to make it they was 8th and they started losing at the end

[@revin_john]

Why are people using the past as an argument for an award based on last season?

[@Josesp92]

I take Lebron , Durant and curry over kawhi 🤷‍♂️

[@dominicktoran3327]

Russ is better than Jokic and embild

[@edr.2642]

Nah

[@stephenpamon4162]

Kawhi doesn’t need AD or curry to win a championship, Giannis doesn’t need AD or westbrook to make the Playoffs

[@temanchi5006]

No kawhi needs siakam, lowry, fanvleet, ibaka, and gasol who all stepped up in the clutch

[@L0UDM0UTH]

The warriors were NOT the warriors last finals STOP.

[@temanchi5006]

L0UDM0UTH facts even if you take off kd cause that was “unfair” they still lost klay and they lost looney who was their best big smh

[@stephenpamon4162]

Temanchi you really don’t get it smh 🤦🏾‍♂️ those are all role players at best, not superstars

[@stephenpamon4162]

Dhruv Solanki Im talking to another person dumbass

[@LiveHandlez]

Leonard lead the raptors to a finals, and beat a hurt GS, but the raptors were playing wayyyyy more confident, then the Cavs were playing against the warriors, that LeBron lead. And I'm a Cavs head til death, but facts are facts. Leonard showed up and his teammates did too

[@spencerpage2514]

Break check, why is curry #6?

[@rodneycarpluk8052]

Gianna’s won mvp... at a younger age than LeBron when he won... is having stats and doing things LeBron wasn’t able to ever do... lol?

[@eddyededwin]

Rodney Carpluk actually, lebron won it at a younger age by days, while being on an undoubtly shittier team, and got further in the playoffs at the same age. there are SOO many things giannis still aint even close to young bron mate ( passing shooting etc)

[@ph2610]

"PLEASE"❗Giannis has Yet to Accomplish anything, Really❗So Just take a Minute and Breathe❗

[@takeoff8247]

Philippians 4:13. God is our only king.

[@jandelalviso533]

Stephen A's tie is like my brothers belt!!

[@samuelbuffington7076]

Curry not better than ad and harden 🙄yah ok

[@Travion728]

You're dumb

[@delontewest6353]

The media hates steph. Nothing new here.

[@Travion728]

@@delontewest6353 no it's just the truth

[@mrrickstur]

Samuel Buffington, actually yes he is

[@Travion728]

@@mrrickstur that's what he said dumbass

[@swisha2k192]

LeBrons not even in the top 5 anymore. Let it go

[@travistravis7190]

He's about 9 or 10 I'd say

[@jmoney4220]

Swisha 2k u almost got me lol. He’s clearly still number 1

[@travistravis7190]

@@jmoney4220 Lakers won 35 games in 2017/18. In 2018/19 lakers won 37 games. Lebron played 55 games and improved the Lakers win tally by 2. He's not number 1

[@Nikketmzee]

What Stephen A said about lebron and his camp really hit the nail on the coffin about how his fan come at you if you don’t say he’s the goat. Anything less than that they’ll think you’re “hating” 🤣🤣

[@nedzhminedkov1159]

Stephen A. stop with this respect thing about LeBron he had his time and only won 3 titles. In 10 years when ESPN realeases is top 10 players in the NBA you gonna try to put LeBron in there as well because a decade ago he was averaging 27, 8 and 8 like he had his time now Giannis is going to takeover

[@mrrickstur]

*LeBron at 42 years old* ESPN: yup he’s still top 5 in the league