Stephen A. & JWill discuss all the Lakers in contention to be on the NBA Mount Rushmore | First Take

Stephen A. & JWill discuss all the Lakers in contention to be on the NBA Mount Rushmore | First Take
Stephen A. Smith and Jay Williams dive into their lists of which players should be on the NBA Mount Rushmore, including many Los Angeles Lakers legends in consideration.
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[@nick_norambuena]

stephen A said the 2010 finals run for kobe was easy?! he had to beat FOUR 50 WIN TEAMS to win the ship (nuggets, jazz, suns, celtics). crazy how he tries to diminish arguably kobe’s most impressive ring WITHOUT SHAQ vs 3 top 75 guys on 1 team. from 2008-2010, kobe beat more 50 win teams in the playoffs than magic did in his whole career

[@yengvang8737]

Exactly 😂😂 it wasn't easy at all

[@Co-nx9ww]

Magic Johnson better than Kobe and Kareem

[@brianbrown9997]

And that magic squad was tough. Rashad Lewis hedo jameer with a dominant Dwight

[@Co-nx9ww]

@@brianbrown9997 mention all non top 75 players yea real hard competition 😂

[@doesntmatter6453]

@@Co-nx9ww 😂lebron played WITH like 6 top75 players. He beat one... Tim Duncan... barely 😂

[@_moegreen5770]

The fact that 4 Lakers could literally make Mount Rushmore is crazy. But if I’m choosing I’m putting Kobe over Magic. Magic has already called Kobe the greatest Laker

[@TH1NK_BLU3_495]

Preach bro

[@legotwod2734]

EXACTLY MAGIC HIMSELF SAID KOBE IS THE GREATEST LAKER

[@_moegreen5770]

@Clan leader Predator you must be a kid lol

[@ryuken193]

First off, Magic is saying that out of courtesy, in his prime, Magic was the Greatest Point Guard of all time, and how is it that the GOAT PG is pushed over for Kobe who isn't even the Greatest SG of all time, and we all know who that is. Magic could score a lot if he wanted too because when Kareem was injured, or out, Magic ppg would shoot up to around 24-25ppg with 10 ast on top of that, only letting his scoring averages go back to the 19ppg when the Captain came back. Moreover, Magic was the better Team Leader and Floor General as well who motivated his entire team to feel like a collective team. Imo, Magic and Bird especially when just counting players from the 1980 to the current era, were arguably the NBAs two greatest leaders from that tenure onward. I LOVE Kobe, however his entire career he has been a Volume Shooter, not an efficient shooter, while Magic was an incredibly efficient shooter, and on top of that, he was the greatest facilitator in NBA History on top of that. Magic is the Greatest Laker of all time, now he's not "greater" than Kareem, because Kareem didn't just play for the Lakers, he also played for the Bucks, so as a career, Kareem is above Magic, however as just a Laker, Magic is the Greatest of All Time. He was the #1 reason as to why the Lakers were Showtime during the 80s, and he definitely prolonged Kareems career without a doubt, and was the fire that made the Lakers the powerhouse throughout the 80s, that dominance can't be underestimated.

[@AirParker23]

Stephen A trying to downplay Kobe’s path in the West during 2008/2009/2010 is crazy when the West was stacked. Spurs didn’t even get out the first round in 2009

[@veganpotterthevegan]

Spurs not getting out was an example of an off string if games. Even the Bulls lost to junk teams with their big 3

[@AirParker23]

@@veganpotterthevegan Spurs went a 6 year drought of not making The Finals after 2007 because of how stacked the West was

[@onepiece6529]

U had to be at least a 50 win team to make a 8th seed in the west in 2008 & 2010

[@33Rakim]

@@onepiece6529 golden state had a 49/50 win season in 07-08 & missed the playoffs while lebron was running thru the east w/ teams in the playoffs w/ 45-49 losses in the season lol

[@youtuber_00786]

@@onepiece6529 another reason why I have Kobe all-time over Lebron. Competition matters and Lebrons comp in the weak east vs what Kobe faced in the West isn't even comparable. Aside from one season of MVP D.Rose, the toughest player in their prime that Lebron beat was arguably PG13...and that's with a superstar Heat team.

[@lacedricgipson4295]

So Magic calls Kobe the best Laker of all time and we going to ignore that?

[@kasperrieberg3495]

To be fair Kobe said on Jimmy Kimmel that Magic was the greatest Laker !

[@mrlalalaelmo7454]

That’s just paying lip service

[@elijahblanding7685]

Ok? So, if Mj said curry is the goat you would agree?

[@404productions8]

Magic said that before or after Kobe died?

[@donmegadonmega3533]

@@404productions8 Magic literally said that at Kobe’s Jersey Retirement

[@idkk703]

It’s crazy how former players have Kobe so high , but the disrespect comes from analysts who never played at that level

[@edwardjohnmichaelpagulayan6533]

💯 Facts! All them ballers know kobe within the TOP 3!

[@Heesab]

Bruh for real

[@dxpo9986]

Players judge each other mainly off eye test and how they are to play against each other. When players judge each other they usually speak from a 1 on 1 standpoint and as such Kobe is one of if not the single most skilled player ever so a lot of guys who played against him rate him so highly because of that. But when you take into account total body of work his resume is just a bit worse than some others

[@TheChris91173]

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion

[@kingexclusivo]

That tells you all you need to know. Players competed with them, they know better than anyone

[@bicauseofme]

Lmaoo Stephen acting like the west was the easy conference when Kobe went back to the finals 3 straight times

[@romanolshanetskiy1363]

Kobe Bryant has not only faced the most 50 win teams in playoffs but he's beaten the most 50 win teams in the playoffs

[@melvinhhcp3615]

Facts

[@rolenahorn]

Keep it 100

[@tashrif46]

Well Magic had Kareem, James Worthy yes. But look at his opponents. The 76ers had Julius Erving, Andrew Toney, Moses Malone, Bobby Jones, Maurice Cheeks and later added a young Charles Barkley. Then the Boston Celtics had Larry Bird, Kevin McHale, Robert Parrish, Dennis Johnson, Danny Ainge, Cedric Maxwell and later Bill Walton. Had the Bad Boy Pistons in 88 and 89 and then faced the Bulls in 1991 without Kareem as his center and Pat Riley as the coach. You can't just ignore all of this.

[@moman36]

Stephen a smoking something, 2010 lakers the only team in nba history to beat a 50 win team in every round people forget how good the west was at the time

[@lac7797]

Not the only team. 1995 Houston Rockets did that feat too. Taking down the 4 best teams that time (Utah 60 W, Phx 59 W, SA 62 W, Orl 57W)

[@moman36]

@@lac7797 yes you’re right I forgot about them

[@scoop2448]

to be fair, no team even had 55 wins. it was 2 50 win teams, a 53 win and 54 win. dirk's run in 2011 was more impressive but hakeems was easily the best. they beat 4 57+ wins teams and they were a 6 seed

[@moman36]

@@scoop2448 it was still 4 50 win teams bro, Kobe beat more 50 win teams in 3 years then magic did his entire career

[@scoop2448]

@@moman36 Lol kobe's west was better but magic had better finals competition. in 8 of 9 finals, he faced a 58+ win team and beat 4. Kobe only faced a 58+ in 2 of 7 finals and only beat 1. So you could also say magic beat more 58+ win teams in 2 years than kobe did his entire career.

[@RondoThaGodd]

Let me stop that right here. From the starters to the bench, Boston had the best team in the league. They had no weaknesses as a complete team. Effectively what he’s saying is that if LeBron faced the Lakers in the NBA Finals he would’ve beat them. From 2008-2011 the Celtics were the best team in the East. And i’m glad he brought up the Spurs, because if you’re in the Western Conference & you can’t beat the Spurs you can forget about sniffing a NBA Finals, the Nuggets Suns Rockets Hornets Mavericks Jazz come on bro all of those teams had a MINIMUM of 50 wins. Every year that’s what Kobe had to face I hate when people try to minimize what he had to go through.

[@jmg5980]

Talk to em🗣🗣💯💯

[@Strolific]

They literally used to flame Bron for cakewalking the leastern conference now SAS saying the west was weak? Lol these people funny

[@demarcusasellers126]

FACTS

[@julianburwell4306]

CHURCH

[@Tre_Ason_Number7]

BARZ💯💪🏾🔥

[@fitrev2411]

Didn't kobe beat the big 3 Celtics? Man it seems since Kobe passed away Stephen A be acting sideways 😒

[@melvinhhcp3615]

Molly getting to him.

[@asdfadf1904]

Big 4 if you include Rondo, who's probably HOF as well.

[@melvinhhcp3615]

@@asdfadf1904 Rondo wasn't on a HoF level when he played in the 2008 & 2010 Finals.

[@asdfadf1904]

@@melvinhhcp3615 uhhhhh the only times he made an all star team were from ‘09-‘13. So yea, he wasn't HOF then in terms of accolades, but he was at his playing peak (at least in 2010).

[@melvinhhcp3615]

@@asdfadf1904 I disagree. Rondo couldn't shoot back then. He peaked after Boston.

[@FragologistDre]

The problem with this whole debate is they’re basing this solely on counting numbers and analytics… you CANNOT have these debates solely on accolades, numbers etc. We also have to take into account your level of skill and expertise you brought to the game…

[@melvinhhcp3615]

Facts

[@Flawless_VicTory13]

What kills me about the media and their constant attempts to discredit Kobe is that they give full credit to guys like Magic, Bird, Kareem, and Lebron for winning rings on teams with 3 plus all stars/hall of famers on their teams but it’s almost like Kobe’s rings with Shaq don’t even count on his resume’ to them. Kobe was not a Robin, he was 1b to Shaq’s 1a. And he still went on to be almost just as successful without Shaq and only 1 other guy who was a potential hall of famer (Gasol) and he’s no lock to make it either. Not to mention he finished with more rings and accolades than Shaq and there was no third star on the 3peat team unlike Bird, Magic, Lebron, and Kareem’s championship teams. Kobe is top 5 at worst no matter how much you hate him or the way he played the game and I’ll argue anybody about it.

[@melvinhhcp3615]

Very well said!

[@t.k.strong604]

I agree with everything you said...except that Pau Gasol isn't a lock to make the Hall of Fame. Look at the man's basketball resume. He is a lock. It's the Naismith Basketball Hall of Fame. It encompasses all facets and levels of the game. Pau is a lock. No doubt about it.

[@joshrobertson7187]

Kobe had to go through much better teams than Magic and Lebron. Kobe best player was Gasol. Lebron has always played with a top ten player when he won a championship. Nobody had a tougher career than Kobe and still has 5 rings. He has 3peated and repeated. Kobe is hand and hand with Jordan. Jordan always had Pippen when he won championship’s. The disrespect of Kobe really is disgusting

[@RKO859]

If i had a prime shaq on my team, i would win 3 championships too, idiot.

[@chrisrunyon2372]

@@RKO859 no you wouldn't lol

[@chrisrunyon2372]

@@OMG-si3wn last I remember everyone said gasol was soft and kobe couldn't win with him

[@joshrobertson7187]

@@OMG-si3wn Gasol was never considered top 10. Go back and look at the players 2007 to 2011. Gasol wasn’t top15. Gasol was one of the most inconsistent players of his generation. Kobe most consistent help was always Odom and Fisher. How old are you son

[@joshrobertson7187]

@@OMG-si3wn Gasol was a role player never big time in big moments. You must be white 😂

[@SabrumBaker]

Having Kobe in the top 10 is incredible but at number 10 is just……it doesn’t sit well with me. 5 Titles, 2 FMVP, 1 MVP Top 10 in scoring, 10-12 defensive player of the years for a guard. That’s gotta mean SOMETHING and to me that’s not a bottom Top 10 player that’s at least top 5 AT LEAST👀. I value the 2 without Shaq more considering everyone back then was saying he wouldn’t be able to do it without him. Not only did he won 1 but he got 2 and it wasn’t “One in this year and a couple years later another” THEY WERE BACK TO BACK and he almost 3peated!! That’s gotta mean SOMETHING!!

[@heykrazy5436]

Oscar Robertson doesn't deserve to be top 10. He should be 11. Kobe should be 7 or 8.

[@melvinhhcp3615]

Strong facts!

[@melvinhhcp3615]

@@heykrazy5436 Kobe is Top 5.

[@Theyaintme_cb6]

I think Jay Williams is just being a fan and going with his heart with Kobe because Kareem should be on everybody’s Rushmore

[@TheIsaiah4352]

Facts Kareem goated

[@ComicsLamar]

1. Michael Jordan 2. Kobe Bryant 3. Lebron James 4. ShaQ 5. Magic 6. Kareem I have to look at accolades, yes of course…but I also have to look at how these guys approached the game and skill packages. The only player on this list that edges Kobe Bryant skill-wise…ball handeling, shooting, footwork, court vision, defensive prowess….is MJ. And it’s still very close.

[@lukekylestanley4072]

Kobe's road: PHoenix Suns, Dallas Mavericks, Sacramento Kings, Boston Celtics, Indiana Pacers, San Antonio Spurs , court case, Trailblazers, Utah, Nuggets were ALL teams and TOUGH challenges Kobe had to go through to win chips. Those teams are comparable to ANYONE ELSE's road to win it all

[@jholliday3]

Molly always coming up with something .....Kareem a legend ...This needs to be top 5,

[@MATTYAMBZ]

I think folks disregard Kobe because figuratively speaking it’s like he was MJ 2.0

[@OMG-si3wn]

I feel like u guys overrate kobe way to much he was in the league for 20 years and was considered the best player in the world for maybe 3 seasons 2008 2009 and 2010 and only has one nba mvp

[@DOUBLECW]

@@OMG-si3wn MVP is a vote by the media, who clearly didn't like Kobe because of his personality and the Colorado scandal. Many had their own agendas and were looking for a reason to not vote for Kobe even for second place votes, hence the reason he finished 4th in voting in 2006 and had the second most first place votes. I would argue Kobe was being recognized as the best player in the league as early as 2003 and as late as 2012 when he tore his ACL and Lebron finally won his first championship.

[@OMG-si3wn]

@@DOUBLECW 2003 2004 tim duncan was considered the best player 2005 was split between dirk and shaq (2005 was his revenge tour) 2006 was kobe 2007 was tim duncan 2008 and 2009 was lebron kobe for 2010 (u could argue LeBron for 2010). if u disagree with any of those please let me know y

[@adammcg7115]

2.0 implies that he was an upgrade to Jordan. More like Jordan 0.9

[@chrisb5000]

@@OMG-si3wn Kobe only played 15 years in the league as a starter and being relatively injury free . First two years in the league he was coming off the bench, the last three was after the Achilles heel injury.

[@egomaniacal1]

Those first three spots are solidified in my mind meaning everyone should have MJ, Lebron and Kareem. It’s that fourth spot that ppl can rotate their last favorite legend. If you’re more old school you’ll take someone like a Magic or Isiah and if you’re more new era you’ll say it’s Kobe or Tim Duncan too who always seems to get overlooked in these discussions.

[@melvinhhcp3615]

Bron ain't Top 5.

[@YoungShadTv]

@@melvinhhcp3615 crazy af

[@YoungShadTv]

Top 4. MJ , lebron , Kareem, Russell...2 through 4 are interchangeable

[@melvinhhcp3615]

@@YoungShadTv MJ. Wilt. Kareem. Kobe. Bird... Duncan. Russell. West. Magic. Hakeem

[@YoungShadTv]

@@melvinhhcp3615 wilt way to high

[@lesbridges3040]

J you doing a excellent job.

[@BigYARK]

If you have Kareem up there you have to rank Bi11 Russell up high as well. Kareem, Bi11, and MJ have the best resumes of all time, period. Kareem was drafted the year after Russell retired, there's not a huge difference between them in terms of time period. It's like how LeBron was drafted the year after MJ left the Wizards

[@nikiedmonds6236]

Kobe being at #10 is BLASPHEMOUS!

[@adammcg7115]

Not really..

[@tario6994]

1.)MJ 2.)Kareem 3.)Magic 4.)Kobe 5.)Wilt 6.)LeBron 7.)Bird 8.)Shaq 9.)Hakeem 10.)RUSSELL

[@DeezNuts-yq4wx]

Molly actually said "I didn't want to interrupt the debate" LOL

[@GetYaBarzUpMedia]

It's extremely disgusting hearing commentators on television consistently disrespect KOBE. It's crazy how players who played have him at least top 5, but media has him top 10 or 15‼️ Smh GetYaBarzUp

[@emildiaz9597]

They are not disrespecting Kobe its just that as much as we love Kobe we have to be fair and obvious to say that he is not over Magic (greatest point guard in history) and Kareem (arguably 2nd greatest big man behind Bill Russell)

[@GetYaBarzUpMedia]

@Emil Diaz I hear you, but when Magic says out of his own mouth that Kobe is the GREATEST LAKER to ever play, it doesn't make since to place him higher.

[@198746779838]

Well this wasnt one of those shows. They have Kobe 4th and 5th.

[@mohamedbelkasri7324]

@@GetYaBarzUpMedia just because he said it doesn’t make it true,kobe is more skilled than magic,but rankings are about accolades and magic had more accolades than kobe…,let’s be real it’s:Mj/lebron(in no order)than kareem,magic,kobe/duncan(either of those 2)

[@davyjones7177]

Russell always had the better team when he played Wilt in his early career. It’s really not even close if you look at the Celtics roster and Warriors roster. Wilt didn’t win until he finally got a deep team on the Sixers

[@melvinhhcp3615]

Facts

[@CapLives]

I don't know how you leave Kareem off Mt. Rushmore.

[@cojack636]

Ikr...crazy 💩

[@scoop2448]

b/c he wasn't even the best player on half of his titles and missed playoffs 3 times in his prime. he only has 2 FMVPs in 20 seasons

[@lmw3061]

Then Kareem is in the same boat with Kobe because Kobe only has 2 FMVPs in 20 seasons. Shaq got all 3 of the FMVPs when Kobe and he played together. Kareem has 6 regular season MVPs (3 with the Lakers) while Kobe has a total of one. Let’s not forget the all-time regular season scoring record especially since Kareem and Kobe played the same amount of years with Kobe trailing Kareem by nearly 5,000 points at the end of his career (3rd place all time at that time as Lebron has since passed him). Absolutely love Kobe’s overall game, legacy, work ethic, skills, Mamba mentality, etc., but Kareem is definitely on the Mt. Rushmore.

[@key-tg1ih]

I'm a laker fan since I was a kid, I love both Kareem and Magic, but Jay got a point when he says it's tricky to put both of them up there when they played so many years together. If I had to pick 4, I'm going with Bron, MJ, Kareem and Kobe. Magic is a ridiculously close fifth place.

[@jlv3x]

Magic transformed the game and put it on track for where it's at today.

[@gamerzcove6026]

Not bron he will never be on lakers mount rushmore

[@kevinmoton7326]

LeGoat doesn't belong no where close to a Lakers Mt. Rushmore. Jerry West easily over lebron

[@spenser6353]

@@gamerzcove6026 they were talking about nba mt Rushmore

[@carlosvaldes5695]

@@jlv3x with that argument what about Curry? is he top 5?

[@QbanoPuraSepa]

Mount Rushmore is all about who changed the game. Below are mine in no particular order: 1. Magic put the game on prime time 2. Jordan took the game worldwide 3. Lebron changed our perception on durability 4. Curry changed the way the game is played 5. Kareem was the first unstoppable force in the modern NBA

[@-_Bee]

Shid Lebron showed us BULLY BALL..... Dude a train. I never heard that freight train line until Lebron came in the league. A 6'9 275 pound guy that runs fast like a point guard and jump out the gym like crazy.

[@adammcg7115]

You could make a durability argument for Karl Malone and Kareem too who done it first so..

[@2020Viszion]

Curry of Kobe. Keep smoking. Go back to the archives, search Kobe and put a year after it. And WATCH

[@adammcg7115]

@@2020Viszion As long as you don’t put finals after the year since he was a guaranteed brick in most of them

[@tyronjasonhuff]

TY molly!

[@ThePatman1980]

Whoops, my Clippers had 4. But am I really going to include Bob McAdoo and Bill Walton? McAdoo played for the Buffalo Braves. That's like Lakers never honoring George Mikan but will accept the 5 titles in Minny. Walton was always hurt.

[@MattB.1]

Wilt, Kobe, LeBron, MJ. Wilt still won multiple rings set multiple records despite the NBA constantly changing the rules to try to stop him. Kobe had a stretch of being part of a dynamic duo of the greatest team of all time AND then carried a team with just one all-star to 3 straight finals + 2 rings. LeBron won a ring being the main player for 3 different teams and proved he can win in the wild west. MJ 10 scoring champs + 6 rings + one of the greatest lockdown defenders ever.

[@kristineellis3444]

LeBob the Builder James played on Superteams got only 4 Championship! Y’all crazy!!!

[@MattB.1]

@@kristineellis3444 LeBron is about to have all the records, has been the best player for a title contender for like 50 years, and has 8 straight finals appearances. Who else would go ahead of him?

[@OfficialCarlay]

An underrated comment 💯👏🏾 These guys just straight DOMINATED THE LEAGUE. People kinda forget that Kobe & LeBron was good defenders too not elite as Jordan like you mention but still lol

[@magnum-kj5ip]

Most people who comment on Kobe never watched him. I can tell from your post that you really watched bean. Great analysis

[@cbrzy_2556]

You call Kobe and Pau dynamic duo? Sheesh. I can make a case Kobe went to 3 straight finals winning 2 without a top 20 player in his team. Can Lebron ever say that? As good as Pau was, he was a 1x all star before he teammed up with Kobe. He was nowhere near top 20. When Lebron teammed up with not just 1 but 2 superstars, those players are easily in top 20 at the moment in time. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Kobe had a chance to team up with a top 20 player in Chris Paul but league decided to veto it. Im not considering Dwight in 2012 just because he’s coming off a major back injury when he came.

[@destrada6015]

JWill had to know that wouldn't keep him quiet for too long

[@josephmiller38]

How about your NBA video game draft 5v5! Mine is shaq, Tim Duncan, Kevin garnet, Jordan, and Stephen Curry!

[@SirGenesis206]

“I’m not telling you that you’re wrong, but you’re wrong.” - SAS

[@kcsniper1243]

Kareem has in my eyes the greatest basketball career in history from start to finish. He went 79-2 in high school winning every championship. Won 3 NCAA championships and is the sole reason the Dunk was banned & the alley opp was invented in college during the late 60s early 70s. Won 6 NBA titles with 6 League MVP. Also had 2 titles more as an assistant coach. All time scoring champ

[@boxscorewatcher413]

I have no problem with either one of these lists.

[@jonathanjones6657]

According to the record holder for tallest waffle stack, Guinness World Records has a 40-page document defining what a waffle is.

[@warriorjoe305allapattah2]

They did sacrifice somebody they sacrifice Kobe Bryant that’s why Kobe Bryant was murdered

[@SouthsideSox007]

I love how he looked at Molly when he said LA has tremendous distractions 😂

[@xzalean]

i was thinking the same thing

[@ThePatman1980]

As late as June 2018, I still supported LeBron. I remember watching Game 1 of the Finals and was jumping up and down when he went off. Then he passed to George Hill and it killed my dreams. That 51 pts gone to waste 🗑.

[@se7enzee444]

Yes, Lebron isn't as lethal as one-on-one player as Jordan, KD, Kobe and others, but basketball is a TEAM game. The problem was George Hill, who couldn't make a shot when it counts.

[@maxaj6116]

@@se7enzee444 not lethal lmao when that 6’9 260 beast put his head down and drive he literally unstoppable

[@RL-ww5ev]

he made the right basketball play. George Hill had the lay up. you why we remember the Steve Kerr shot, because he made it! had he missed it, would you say MJ isn't lethal, I doubt it

[@se7enzee444]

@@maxaj6116 Lebron isn't shifty. His defenders can slow him down by beating him to the spot. Oftentimes, he pushes off on his drives.

[@YoungShadTv]

@@se7enzee444 when they are constantly fouling you tryna stop u gotta do what ya gotta do .. just like Shaq didn't get alot of calls he should've got.

[@ogmarko4111]

That Orlando team wasn’t chump tho. Good 3pt shooting and great defense with a young dominant Dwight .

[@gugy68]

This GOAT and lists debates is what will keep sports shows afloat forever on there is nothing to talk about. LMAO.

[@ramos2092]

They always disrespect kobe. Only name his negative, he had a easy road to his championship. LeBron literally had to run away run Cleveland join a super team. And then return to Cleveland when irving was good. LeBron never wanted competition, kobe wanted all the smoke with competition. Kobe will always be better then lebron.

[@jlv3x]

We always overlook Kareem, but like Stephen A said he's retired and no one still can stop that sky hook.

[@GXIM0dZI]

SA said “Tito” 😂😂😂 Hedo

[@MrSuperman957]

LOL. 03:59 J Will won't be back on First take 😂

[@locojet6174]

Micheal Jordan, Magic Johnson, Kareem Abdul Jabbar and Larry Bird Or Wilt Chamberlain are my MT RUSHMORE of Basketball

[@InvestBetter.]

It wouldn't be accurate, but you could make a small argument that 5 Lakers could be the Mt. Rushmore: Kareem, Wilt, LeBron, Magic and Kobe. (Or Shaq)

[@robertpadillosandiego2821]

of course LeBron is better than shaq. but no way is he a better Laker than Shaq was: four finals appearances, three rings

[@JerrellXotiikClemmons]

I agree with stephen A

[@lixiang7349]

Why is there always a mix of first and last name on the list 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@jonathanjones6657]

A group of pugs is called a grumble.

[@miguele864]

Tito tirc-a-glue 😅😅

[@OneFoursEmperor]

How Jay go from having Kobe top 3 Mount Rushmore, to then moving him 5th in his all time top 5. Stephen A broke him down

[@BigBoy-vf1gi]

J will think he slick with the parade 🤣🤣

[@shamus248]

SAS really tryna argue that Kobe's road to those chips was easy as if Kobe didn't have a broken finger and still scored 600+ pts in 3 straight playoffs, faced a 50 win team in every series and did it all without a top 75 teammate He also wants to belittle the 09 Dwight-Magic team as if they didn't blow out LeBron in 5 games

[@angelface2022]

This is "the" primary reason the top 5 or top 10 must be categorized according to their era..

[@sugarz005]

Yo..... JWill trolled Steven A Expertly

[@tripdagrim2504]

So SAS u saying da western conference was mid?

[@dukev9336]

just funny that the players have Kobe on mount rushmore, but not the media.......

[@bossplayermfs5972]

Wilt Chamberlain has blocked KAJ skyhook several times SAS there’s footage of it right here on YT, a older Wilt Chamberlain at that.

[@wayvee_wunn]

Boi tito turkoglue was a baller

[@ajitkirpekar4251]

It seems like everyone just accepts that Kobe is some top 4-5 player in the history of the league. Exactly why is he considered better than Tim Duncan?

[@BigYARK]

Yes Wilt only has 2 championships, BUT both of those chips were on teams that BROKE THE RECORD FOR WINS IN A SEASON

[@davyjones7177]

Celtics teams were also much better than Wilts early teams until he got traded to the Sixers.

[@jerrybrownell3633]

@@davyjones7177 - Jerry West and Elgin Baylor led the Lakers to 7 Championship Series against the Bill Russell led Celtics and never beat them.

[@davyjones7177]

Jerry Brownell exactly my point

[@jerrybrownell3633]

@@davyjones7177 - Yes, but Wilt never played for the Lakers when West and Baylor were in their prime. Could have been a whole different story.

[@BlessedBrodie]

Stephen A just disrespecting Melo Yao Wade Tmac playing in that era Kobe won in so dont act like the league was cake then.. Just because he yells dont make him right.

[@riversk281]

What about carmelo and his denver nuggets that was a great series he forgot about that and kobe on my lakers mount rushmore

[@downtowndeuce]

Did Molly forget that the Mount Rushmore only has 4 spots?

[@narcherdsda]

Molly..."I didnt want to interrupt the debate" In what world she living in saying that nonsense :D

[@rodgetech]

Are you joking. I remember when Kobe was in a stacked conference where the 8th seed was a 50 win team

[@charmcityclassic6068]

Steven A. was hurt about that S.B.🤣🤣🤣

[@jeffreymedvik1836]

1, The greatest athlete the game has ever seen Wilt Chamberlain, 2 the greatest 1v2 player of all time, Michael Jordan, the greatest career of all time, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, the greatest team player of all time Tim Duncan. That's your mount Rushmore

[@K.A.TaylorWoodworking]

Like the list

[@ericksantos4555]

what about Steph Curry, the greatest shooter of all time? If you're going to select them the way you did.

[@taesaunders2912]

The disrespect on Kobe is ridiculously yo

[@historicalethiovideos3333]

"Kobe is the GREATEST Lakers of ALL time" Magic Johnson. ESPN's & others Bron paid media agents attempt to try & erase Kobe's legacy will never work in Lakers Nation.

[@SilentMovements305]

💯💯

[@2020Viszion]

Shaq said it too, Kobe is the best Laker of all time

[@michaelkearney1313]

Don’t get Stephen As Kobe point. Who did Jordan have to go through when he won his chips that was legit competition? An aged Pistons squad? 🤔

[@Thatkiddadreamer]

Denver wit melo? Yao with Mcgrady? Nash Amare?

[@racetrackbidness1371]

My thing is... how can you limit it to 4 players??? I understand trying to follow the western society mantra of choosing 4 great people to immortalize in history, like the presidents etc... but when we talking BASKETBALL, the sport has 5 positions, not 4. So common sense should be that when picking the greatest players ever , you choose one from each position. So wit that said , Stephen A list is more close to accurate without him even realizing he chose the greatest player from each position , and only one left to fill is the PF position. I mean that’s how it should be , and if that’s the case as great as Kobe was, he’s not the best SG of all time 🤷🏾‍♂️ he just wasn’t. So again Stephen a list , plus add your pick of greatest PF and that’s it, and that’s all

[@jonathanknockum1427]

What about Oscar Robertson

[@willielittle9301]

Where is WILT, Jerry West, Elgin Baylor, and Clyde Walt Frazier???

[@ThePatman1980]

If I didn't hate the Lakers, I wouldn't have mocked Kobe in his prime. But I did. I mocked him like I mock LeBron these days. ESPN messageboard constantly bashed Kobe around 2006-2008. So many Laker haters and MJ fans out there.

[@bismarkyeboah70]

If the argument is that Magic and Kareem are on the same team so they should take away from each other, then why is Hakeem not on the list? He won without any player who is not top 50 right?

[@eastmade3]

Stats dont tell the whole story you had to see it live and in person

[@avarylouis2961]

Stephen A’s argument is crazy bc we not gonna act like that Western Conference with CP, nash, dirk, duncan. That jazz team was no joke. That selective memory is insane

[@jaylenatchison2479]

Some players may have had better Careers. But not to many players were individually better than KD or Kobe. I personally think if they all played against each other KD, Kobe, Jordan, Magic Johnson, or Lebron would Stand out

[@thebatmanwhoposts9600]

If SAS is gonna hold only having 2 titles against Wilt shouldn't Bill Russell be up there with his 11 titles?

[@ukonnuoli348]

How can you not be diverse and have Bird in the top 4?

[@ramyzee5345]

Kobe ahead of Kareem is pure bias

[@rcash001]

He also grew up watching Kobe not Kareem

[@kristineellis3444]

Lebron head of any of them! Is beyond me!

[@scoop2448]

meh both aren't top 5. they weren't even the best player for half their titles and missed playoffs in prime

[@scoop2448]

@Trentor15 Lol Magic was clearly better. Kareem only had 1 FMVP during 5 titles. he was getting old anyway

[@ramyzee5345]

@Trentor15 Depends on the year but it was largely Kareem. Even that besides the point Kareem had a finals without Magic, and had 4 FMVP.

[@rockhardwallace8338]

Stephen A keeps saying the only team he had to worry about was the spurs he eliminated the spurs 4 times to 2 losses Kobe beat the most 50 wins teams in playoff history but we never talk about that crazy these analysts leave out a lot of facts

[@Strolific]

Out of everyone on that list, Kobe won b2b with the least amount of 'supporting' cast. Beating the Boston big 3, the team that forced LeBron to leave and join to other stars? Idk why we still try to sell this man short lol Jordan had Pippen as Robin, LeBron has had a plethora of robins, Kareem and Magic were together which is one reason why I can't be mad because they had each other AND James Worthy? Lol like that showtime Lakers team was STACKED Bruh if only Kobe and the Lakers were more tough in the 08 finals and he would've gotten TWO 3 peats?! This wouldn't even be a discussion.

[@SilentMovements305]

Na they still will find a way to disrespect the man

[@ModernFiction]

Lol Stephen A's spitting blasphemy per usual, the 80s west was way weaker than the 00s west (one of the weakest conferences vs one of the strongest conferences / eras of all time) smh

[@knockknock23]

Bill Russell, MJ, Wilt, Kareem. That's the Rushmore. Anything else is just for tv ratings

[@carlo9524]

Magic, Kobe, Kareem then the 4th is subjective.

[@donellamos2951]

Stephen A needs to go look at the teams Kobe beat to get to the finals those years! 👀 west was always tough

[@caldwellpope1726]

Kobe had to face the phoenix Suns too! Man that team was almost as good as the spurs.. like cmon, they were like the baby warriors

[@hvchimi]

You can’t leave out Kareem.

[@srinarah]

The disrespect for Bill Russell is unreal. 11 championships in 13 tries.

[@jesustenes2]

dude was stephen a talking about isiah thomas being a top 4 player ever ??????????

[@drewd6144]

Wilt, Magic, Kobe, Jordan, runner up Kareem.

[@onyx9857]

Rachel Nichols has Jimmy Butler in all four spots.