Jason Kidd chooses LeBron over Jordan as the GOAT - Skip & Shannon | NBA | UNDISPUTED

Dallas Mavericks head coach Jason Kidd was asked to pick between Michael Jordan and LeBron James, the Hall of Famer chose LeBron because of what he’s done both on and off the court, saying quote "you got to put the whole package together.” LeBron James is a career average 27.1 points, he’s averaging 30.1 points for the Los Angeles Lakers in his 19th year in the NBA and is now the second all-time leading scorer in the NBA. Chicago Bulls legend Michael Jordan has a career average of 30.1 points a game and is a member of the basketball hall of fame. Skip Bayless and Shannon Sharpe react to Jason Kidd choosing LeBron as the GOAT.
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Jason Kidd chooses LeBron over Jordan as the GOAT - Skip & Shannon | NBA | UNDISPUTED
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[@RING_FF]

اتوسل إيليك بحق إسمك الاعضم ان ترزق صاحب اليد التي ستدعــمنـــي فرحه يسجد لها باكيا ورزقا لاينتهي و توفيق النهايه . 🙌🙌🙌.

[@thestudentmaster77]

Skip...is Pelinka the real problem??👀

[@lrac_1]

Crazy Lebron played 100 less games the Malone and shot 500 more shots ?

[@lrac_1]

Also Shannon bill, Russell been to the most finals…you know this

[@budlightcrew5463]

Let's go jazz make lebron and Shannon and Nick make excuses again tomorrow

[@DavidBagga]

Undisputed deserves all the tv awards. They talk about the same topics everyday and we come back and are hooked to skip and Shannon. “I’ve never seen anything quite like it! You know it, and I know it!”

[@shanonwilson2900]

Amen lol. I'm hooked

[@andrewchester3527]

I just come here to watch Shannon eat skip alive

[@fashionlife5348]

😂🤣😂🤣

[@planetcold3621]

Skips overwhelming influence at full display

[@Fresh5Prince]

And yet you still tune in… hmmmmm

[@ImSoOhio]

Shannon: “and he’s held on his hair longer” Skip: “he has? Is it his hair?” 🤣🤣

[@calvincalvin3132]

😂😂😂

[@jamesjameswhattheladyssayl7657]

Look at skip face after he say it lol

[@ImSoOhio]

@@jamesjameswhattheladyssayl7657 skip be cracking jokes lately lol. He’s nothing like he was when they first started

[@renanlucas8]

There you go skip, you see what you do ?

[@christophermhudson09]

@@ImSoOhio Ive liked Skip way better on this show than first take, both himself and the duo of him and Shannon is way better. Shannon deserves to be on the same pedestal that Stephen A is on in my opinion. Top tier analyst and entertainer. Stephen A Smith goes way overboard and watching him is annoying sometimes

[@ilykenshi2]

Ahh yes , I love waking up and watching undisputed . Such fresh and new topics every single day . They rarely choose to speak on Lebron James , or Michael Jordan so this is highly surprising . Thank you skip and Shannon for Creating fresh new topics every single day . Without this debate I wouldn’t know how either skip or Shannon feels on the GOAT debate stance

[@lokotroko1]

Soo true 😭😭😭😭😭

[@user-ct6lk1pr5f]

If u don’t wanna watch it don’t watch it. Simple as that.

[@leebron514]

😂😂😂 atleast they discussed chris and will slap

[@tomcollierblognation136]

A lot of sarcasm! 😂

[@swiffyjoe2186]

Lebron could literally just look angry.on the bench and they would cover it

[@leetraviusmckay2919]

Goat conversation again? I was looking forward to hearing about Baker's 11 game stretch

[@JDFrank20Diaz]

That will be Fridays topic and Drip Bayless will Defend Mayfield again

[@JTAentertainment]

Lmfaooooo

[@MaarSRT]

The daily MJ vs LeBron topic. Never gets old💀

[@c5movements220]

LeBron #1 2 3 4 n 5 c mi

[@robertmcgee1203]

I been telling people for years Michael Jeffrey Jordan Kareem Abdul-Jabbar billl Russell Wilt Chamberlain Shaquille O'Neal Tim Duncan Hakeem olajuwon Larry Bird Kobe Bryant and it's a toss up between Dr J and LeBron James

[@geraldjones1000]

@@robertmcgee1203 !*🤔Not bad...not a bad list @t all!*🏀#💯❗*

[@biggt0820]

@@robertmcgee1203 no Earvin "Magic" Johnson?

[@bryant888]

@@robertmcgee1203 delusional

[@josephrivera5255]

Sharpe has a point in “you can’t get everything”

[@sambeezy007]

I agree. They say "Jordan had no weaknesses." That's false. He can't hold his own against a decent center like Lebron can. And Lebron isn't as efficient at the free throw line like Bird. So yeah.

[@954pwe1]

Don't forget the Dam!

[@Bangman085]

@@sambeezy007 what??? Did you say Jordan weakness as SG is he can’t guard centers 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

[@sambeezy007]

@@Bangman085 If he can do it all he can do a little of that at the least.

[@babyj5566]

@@Bangman085 He’s probably referring to Hakeem The Dream Olajuwon. Legend has it Jordan got dominated by his rockets every year and faked retirement to avoid him. Might be true, might not but Mj is the goat

[@LyricalMurderer1]

This was actually a very good discussion. Skip was actually objective for once…

[@michaelbuckley5058]

Shannon is loud and BIAS

[@SensiRojo20]

Say it again, “for once”

[@douglasbryant513]

@@michaelbuckley5058 Sure... and Skipocrite's always Fair and SQUARE when it comes to Curry, Odell, Giannis, Mayweather, Lebron, Belichick, Luka...😴 Skip... "Baker's 11 game stretch, Ben Simmons 42 point game, KD's toenail on the line"...Bayless

[@oneway472]

I’m a Lebron fan but what he does off the court shouldn’t have anything to do with the comparison. It’s not fair imo

[@karji0921]

Soooo why not its about your impact on and off the court tho.

[@kingpete3160]

Exactly

[@RonRyder]

@@karji0921 what does anything off court have to do with putting the ball in the net

[@LyricalMurderer1]

@@RonRyder agreed - I’m a huge Lebron fan and I think we should purely compare on-court performance. I think Lebron holds up quite well to Mike in that regard…

[@jfra2242]

The reason they have to reach for off the court activities is because there is no arguement on the court they can use to prove Bron is better than MJ but this is about basketball give Lebron a humanitarian award for his off court actuvities we are evaluting performance on the hardwood period

[@coldkilladubk8373]

This man skip really said " is it lebrons hair? I dont know"😂

[@jalenrose799]

"He held on to his hair longer too that means something" "Savanah ain slap nobody" 😂😂😂😂😂😂 unc shay the 🐐

[@yomama8935]

"is it his hair?" 🤣💀

[@_Kubi.Art_]

I love how skip keeps mention how LeBron leads the league in attempt as a negative but Tom Brady did the exact same thing last year and he glorified it😂😂😂😂

[@tigerscott5929]

Facts....lol and unlike Brady, LeBron is accomplishing all his milestones in fewer games and minutes than the people he's passing up to get there. Brady had all his yards last year from the fact that he threw the ball anywhere between 40-60 times every single game

[@_Kubi.Art_]

@@tigerscott5929 the hypocrisy in America 😂😂

[@DJaySplitSecond]

Bro Skip is a certified salty Bron basher! He’s just hurt because The King will never acknowledge him! 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@josh_7569]

@@DJaySplitSecond that is probably why, I never realized LeBron doesn't acknowlege his existance

[@DJaySplitSecond]

@@josh_7569 bro he never will lol

[@huntersartin]

why do we make such a big deal when someone thinks lebron is the goat? it's subjective. just move on

[@sac1211]

Media and most fans see jordan as a god thats why they get so salty whenever people think someone else is the GOAT. Jordan is the most protected basketball player of all time he benefited from an era with no social media so everything that went bad in his career gets swept under the rug. Unlike guys like lebron who are always under the spotlight and everything they say or do gets scrutinized.

[@V-tec28]

@@sac1211 somebody who recruits other superstars to join him or joins other team with stars to win cant be goat.somebody that crys,flops and has no loyalty cant be goat.somebody who throws his teammates under the bus just to get blame of him cant be goat.

[@djmisc2145]

@@V-tec28 this salty comment just proves his point

[@huntersartin]

@@V-tec28 you're just proving his point lol. there's plenty of footage of mj flopping yet here you are sweeping it under the rug because mj is the most protected athlete of all time and it isnt even close

[@stephonaugustin1384]

@@sac1211 he also have a lot of yes men in the media who made their career off of him. Skip, SAS don’t see any flaws in in Michael Jordan

[@johncena4096]

Lets just ignore the fact that Karl had Stockton passing him the ball for like 18 straight years. Karl never had to initiate the offense/ lead the team in assists like how Lebron has had to, therefore Karl could focus on scoring. Every team lebron has been on hes been the scorer, passer/initiator of the offense. Imagine lebron having someone like kidd, nash, paul passing him the ball for 18 straight years. Lebrons journey to 2nd place all time is more impressive than karls.

[@brandonflowsocold5822]

Facts💯💯💯

[@Terror832]

LeBron passed EDP Malone in 113 less games One hundred *thirteen*

[@MasamuneIceDragon]

@@Terror832 edp malone 🤣🤣🤣

[@sl1mreapa398]

I mean he had wade and kyrie two All time great guards he chose to pass he didn’t have to 🤣

[@johncena4096]

@@sl1mreapa398 yeah but wade and kyrie weren’t pass first players and were never in contention for best passers in the league. Plus Lebron has arguably the highest iq of all time and is an all time great passer so it makes sense for him to run the show/ initiate the offense

[@Geo_Storm]

The fact that everyone comepares the best athletes to Michael Jordan is what makes Jordan the GOAT 🐐

[@karimseifull2474]

no it doesn't. dumbest thing I've read all day

[@Christappedin]

and bron still adding to his resume when he done things we haven’t seen b4 is why he the goat

[@robertmcgee1203]

I been telling people for years Michael Jeffrey Jordan Kareem Abdul-Jabbar billl Russell Wilt Chamberlain Shaquille O'Neal Tim Duncan Hakeem olajuwon Larry Bird Kobe Bryant and it's a toss up between Dr J and LeBron

[@sl1mreapa398]

@@Christappedin not really he’s played 19 years which is 6 more than Jordan and has way less success and way more losses he has longevity that’s it which it’s important but , longevity awards don’t define greatness

[@tellitlikeitisfresh6541]

@@Christappedin wait fool Mike was 1 yr in and they was comparing people the Michael jordan of Now its we gotta wait til Bron retire to wait for people to compare people to him

[@calebwilliams9198]

I think MJ’s the GOAT but if you say LeBron is the GOAT I ain’t calling u crazy 🤷‍♂️

[@professionalmeatbeater6983]

How is it close statistically mj the better player and more accolades all bron has is longevity 😂😂

[@swolegod7724]

Malone is the GOAT, more All NBA teams, points on less shots, and rebounds than MJ. 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

[@calebwilliams9198]

@@swolegod7724 how many championships?

[@swolegod7724]

@@calebwilliams9198 Championships matter now? Nice deflection.

[@swolegod7724]

@UCuKz_T1m7kOdQrpBj9gEfxg Nobody cares about Bron beating Derozan and Oladipo.. Mike swept Shaq and cooked the Jazz that sent Bron's dad Duncan home in 5.

[@SuntanSuperman8]

Get ready; when basketball season is over, this will be the show every day

[@0-2-1]

Jason Kidd wants that Lakers coaching job BAAAAAAD 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@marcodraven9778]

He's waiting for Frank to be fired

[@Palahume]

Exactly.

[@mikester2149]

11:25 “ He’s shooting 36 percent we’ll live with that” 😭😂

[@erictolbert5769]

Just because you play longer,doesn't mean you'll perform at high level.

[@karimseifull2474]

but lebron did. sooo....

[@karimseifull2474]

leading the league in scoring baby

[@Christappedin]

unless u bron 🤣🐐

[@kierra_mist]

But Lebrons been performing at a high level his whole career even in high school

[@robertmcgee1203]

@@kierra_mist I been telling people for years Michael Jeffrey Jordan Kareem Abdul-Jabbar billl Russell Wilt Chamberlain Shaquille O'Neal Tim Duncan Hakeem olajuwon Larry Bird Kobe Bryant and it's a toss up between Dr J and LeBron James

[@PhoenixAscending]

Tim Duncan was still a very good defensive player his last year in the NBA, and still one of the best defensive big men...so Shannon has no idea what he is talking about on that Edit--For all you id!ots coming at me, saying Duncan was not good defensively his last season...He averaged 1.5 blocks, and 1 steal, in only 25mpg...and that includes where he fell off a cliff the last quarter of the season. He was still a solid defensive big. Numbers don't lie

[@venusspacey9685]

He most definitely was not. I promise you I watched him lack every game thinking he need to retire.

[@spawn1706]

He was a center too. Not the same position than LeBron, not the best player in his team neither one of the best in the NBA. During Tim Duncan's 19 season you could have added him to a contender team and his impact wouldn't be same if you add LeBron to any contender people will cry because it is unfair!

[@2robjenkins]

Big men can play longer because they don’t need their legs as much.

[@beanteam2217]

In 2016 his d wasn’t that good

[@PhoenixAscending]

@@2robjenkins don't know about that, seeing as it's harder for them to run the floor with their big frames...but anyways, what does that have to do with what we are talking about? They weren't talking about how long a big man can play, vs a guard, but just if Tim was still a good defensive player or not. Vince played a long time...so did Jamal Crawford

[@tanzaboy94]

Sometimes I don’t think they know that there’s other teams in the NBA and NFL or any other sports they can talk about lol

[@sac1211]

NFL is boring hasn't been the same since the 2011-2012 season ended. No one watches that trash the games are too long and the most recent exciting superbowl for me was eagles vs patriots

[@tigerhoods7927]

Lol not this stupid show obsessed with talking about the same stuff

[@andrelesueur717]

Duhh they know it’s just these certain individuals or teams they talk about are marquee household names. They bring a lot of attention. Y waste time talking about teams that ain’t making no noise like the pistons or the magic?

[@donnyjames8409]

@@sac1211 That season must've been the last time your favorite team was winning 🤣🤣🤣

[@shootertone5644]

Sad AF ! Because They go by a players influence and buzz. (Following) And it’s sucks, instead of them putting in work and making viewers aware of other players or teams who may not have the influence but have made the effort and accomplishments these other players make. They bacially just make everything about lebron because lebron fans tune in they just hijack his fans for views it’s basically “ lebron undisputed”

[@Yoruba1st]

Jason Kidd must be "KIDDing" himself

[@Rackselmil]

😢😢

[@cyberbron2077]

Bruh they started debating about brons hair 😂😂, these two are too funny.

[@Invictus-Solaris]

I don’t get why there has to be a definitive GOAT, like as if there can only be one. I get that Greatest Of All Time would make more sense to a singular individual, but things change over the years. It would only be fair to refer to someone as the GOAT if we really think they’ll be the best no matter the era. Which lets be honest… It’s hard to say for any player. So in the end, it’s a matter of how good you are in your own era. If we follow that, then it would only be fair to allow multiple GOATs. Either one for every position or era. Nothing more, nothing less.

[@fifimalik7785]

There has be a definitive goat because at the end of the day basketball is sport where weather your a child or a 40 year old man at the ymca you play to win so when we talk about about ball we are trying to come up with a definitive goat

[@iamkaynan3456]

Because there is a definitive goat. Numbers speak for themselves. Just like the scoreboard tells you who won the game. Stats tell you who was the best player. Otherwise stats would be pointless. There are stats in everything, even businesses and those stats tell you what business is the best.

[@SuperSonic_868]

The GOAT acronym starts with, "greatest." There can't be multiple "greatest" of anything.

[@phenomfacemob1011]

@@iamkaynan3456 that's not 100% true stats dont always mean BETTER

[@iamkaynan3456]

@@phenomfacemob1011 99.9%

[@fastsr20det]

Man what an amazing topic. I wish they would talk about this everyday😐

[@k7ngbzze]

Jordan changed the game, his impact is unmatched. Jordan is the 🐐

[@karimseifull2474]

🤡

[@andrerandall7873]

@@karimseifull2474 you the 🤡🤡

[@sundaydelatorre3505]

The game was changed wayyyy before Jordan

[@Quiso0321]

So Curry Is The Goat He Changed The Game With The 3Ball, Or Kobe With How Flashy & Confident, Or SHAQ With Dominance. Because They Changed The Game. So With Your Logic 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@joebeaux235]

Curry did as well but he is not the goat

[@Bilnation]

This really just depends on interpretation on whether you believe sustained greatness or peak greatness is more important.

[@youraverage90sguys7]

the only asterisk to that is in tems of peak greatness, what duration is the criteria for a peak, is it one game, one season? a decade? the problem with that is that people resorts to a subjective criteria to match their biases.

[@calvincalvin3132]

Bronsexuals think greatness is longevity 💀💀💀

[@sivi9741]

About more accomplishments in LESS year ? Usually someone doing more with less, get paid more 🤷🏻

[@So_Oneal]

Yup; it's like Jay- Z who has longevity compared to Lil Baby or Durk who have had a nice lil run so far.

[@nostalgiacorner1999]

Except LeBron also has peak greatness

[@MrEOM41]

MJ has been retired for more than 2 decades and is never on social media and is as relevant as a new era player that says a lot.

[@mpound97]

That's what I say when they keep talking about this goat "debate". All the MJ haters and queen lovers go on TV daily and bring up Jordan's name.

[@takerfan4ever]

Bc of these lbj vs Jordan debates

[@MrEOM41]

@@takerfan4ever true

[@jerryhollins6753]

Much respect to John Stockton. Underappreciated! His assists record will never be broken

[@ceciltucker7291]

Yea that and Chamberlain’s career rebound record, both untouchable. If I live to be 100 I still wouldn’t be surprised if those records are still standing when I pass.

[@motorcycleartist]

​@@ceciltucker7291Wilt played 48.5 mpg one season..miss 8 minutes the entire season bc he got ejected one game.. this record is unbreakable..

[@willjohnwick6911]

@@motorcycleartist the only record that literally can’t be broken nobody is playing the whole 48 minutes every game

[@canabinoid05]

how can a player without any defence abilities be the goat?

[@kierra_mist]

That’s a stupid question

[@nicksentino9903]

You do know he was all defense 5 times

[@nicksentino9903]

And he lost a defensive player year to someone all team second second defense 🤔

[@kierra_mist]

@@nicksentino9903 let’s assume he didn’t know lol

[@MaDFroG88]

@@nicksentino9903 Marc Gasol won that year 😡

[@PhoenixAscending]

I love how analysts and fans act as if Jordan couldn't make threes. I know his career three point shooting mark is pretty bad, but he was actually close to 40 percent in one of his earlier years, and participated in the three point shooting challenge in the all-star game. He could make threes when he wanted to, like against the blazers in the finals, where he made 6 in a half I believe. The three just was nowhere near as big a part of the game then, and Jordan realized that no one could stop him going to the hole, or making mid range jump shots. With the likes of Lopez, Embid, Giannis, and many other big men being able to make threes, it is a joke to think that Jordan could not have been a 40 percent three point shooter if he had needed to be

[@fergusonwalker4561]

@Travel Crawl giannis

[@benjaminbiondi8857]

@Travel Crawl 60s = Wilt and Bill 70s = Kareem 80s = Magic and Bird 90s = Jordan 00s = Kobe and Duncan 10s = LBJ 20s = Giannis, Embiid, and Jokic

[@rubencadmusnamata6358]

jordan shot good from 3 when they shortened the line.. fact is he prolly doesnt practice it

[@zackneskov2006]

ok and lebron got 42 in miami one year? whats your point. lebron can do everything with average free throw.

[@KenSWP]

That’s a fact!!!!

[@kifley19]

Lebron was afraid to speak about China. He also was afraid to speak about Tamir Rice. He only spoke up once it got popular to do so. He didn't sacrifice anything. Lebron is not Muhammad Ali.

[@nicksentino9903]

But did he do it ?

[@dbills1228]

LeBron is better

[@jamesmuhoozi5812]

Just to remind you that Muhammad Ali was even sent to prison by racists like you who don't want to see an opinionated Blackman. LeBron will be remembered as a hero....all the hate towards him just proves how great his legacy is

[@jordanmack4565]

@@nicksentino9903 only because its popular. He has never said anything about social issues that put his job or money on the line like Ali did.

[@Palahume]

Exactly!

[@leetraviusmckay2919]

It's wonderful hearing Skip say "well J Kidd will lean towards Lebron in these discussions because of their bond thru" Yet he has a similar bond with Jordan 😂

[@rjrasta2348]

Hypocrite

[@Trip.L.L.L]

Jordan fells the same way about Skip as KD does

[@andrelesueur717]

The rant Shannon goes on is funny to me 🤣🤣🤣

[@markwellcapuyan6560]

😂😂😂 i really enjoyed every arguments they had

[@monatawfik5075]

"I'ts obvious it's going to come down - gravity does that" lmaoooo.

[@tr3hatch3r_]

jkidd played against both guys so he’s the perfect guy to ask. 🤷‍♂️

[@professionalmeatbeater6983]

Oh that’s why ray allen his own teammate said mj and his best friend d wade said mj

[@ArmandoKozomara]

I’ll put Jordan, Kobe and Lebron in my top 3 all time. But I’m drafting Kobe over Lebron. Jason Kidd also thinks it’s okay to beat his wife. Jordan was the best offensive and defensive player - that’s “the whole package” for me. Longevity Lebron is the goat - gifted unlike anyone else with no injuries.

[@JtwSaucy]

Bro said and “He held on his hair longer too”Shannon funny asf😂😂

[@InvincibleYoungEmpire]

"Is that his hair?" DONE!!! LMAOOOOO

[@coreysingleton3118]

I find it funny, how since I was young I heard Muhammad Ali was the goat for the same combination of on the sport and off the sport and no one said a word. But when it comes to someone overcoming their precious MJ, it’s an uproar.

[@josh_7569]

Jordan was marketed perfectly. They don't want to ruin the cash flow

[@coreysingleton3118]

@@FORMIDABLEHERO what in the world are you talking about?

[@deezebaby9459]

Facts 💯

[@cjjacks33]

Muhammad Ali made real sacrifices that contributed to his goat status. Tweeting uncontroversial talking points for social points isn’t comparable

[@cjjacks33]

MJ’s popularity was natural and the media fed on that. Lebron has been pushed since high school and even with his successes still isn’t as popular as MJ

[@willredpath4868]

How have they not talked about Giannis and Embiid ?

[@kierra_mist]

They are not great like Lebron and Jordan lol they are good though

[@Frefte.]

@@kierra_mist jordans been retired for almost 30 years and lebron's team is the 10th seed and might not even make the playoffs giannis and imbiid are fighting for the mvp this season and they went head to head and had an amazing game and they don't even mention the game which is why first take is better the ratings prove that

[@Bonexzilla]

"and he has held onto his hair longer too"....Unc Shay 😀😀😀😀

[@ngbgaming4L]

Crazy I never been a fan of mj nor bron but Lebron is the goat bro putting up ridiculous numbers at the age he’s at it’s insane

[@professionalmeatbeater6983]

Ya your on drugs how goats get outplayed by Jason terry and score 8 points in finals games how is bron better when statistically mj is better how he better when mj has more rings finals mvps regular season mvps scoring titles defensive player of the year all defensive 6 and 0 in the finals never lost never took it to game 7 avraged 42 in the finals hit the championship game winner in 1998 scored 45 that game is a better scorer defender then lebron when he played point guard avraged 33 10 and 11 that’s disgusting 😂😂

[@ninocrown3247]

The league is far easier to score now. The NBA was much harder to score than now. Even Luka, Joker and Giannis said its easier to score in the NBA than EuroLeague. Those OG Euro players like Kukoc who came to NBA, never said that. The NBA was harder to score during MJ’s Washington tenure based on average scores. Yet, the man averaged 22 at 40 yo, before the knee injury took him out. His scoring was ramping up. He averaged 28 ppg those last 10 games. MJ has a lifetime 30 ppg average with no 3s and those two 20/22 pt game seasons in Washington, in a lower scoring league. D. Rose averaged 24-25 ppg his MVP year. You may not even make All-NBA Third team with that average now.

[@sourkrygaming9847]

What Skip won't tell you is that Malone shot 2500 more free throws than Lebron

[@emilioreyes4159]

LeBron has the greatest longevity, he passed Kareem for good this season, that adds up to his case as the SECOND GREATEST, MJ still the goat

[@shaswatbhattarai8320]

MJ missed 2 years, 3years and came back to win when he probably think team will win but with best coach and best teammate always and ONE man stands tall for 19 years averaging 30 PPG at the age of 37 and they're telling at the age of 34, MJ was doing ceremonial appearance.. PPG is nothing.. In football we count total goals, in cricket total runs, In American football: total passes; MJ started in era where broadcasting and TV started so had advantage of all these press and players so they never want real GOAT Lebron to win more accolades and MVP awards.. They present argument of 6/6 in finals but what abt. remaining 7 playoffs 1st round or 2nd round out of MJ... LBJ is undisputed GOAT, highest scrorer, 10k+ rebounds/assists..

[@emilioreyes4159]

@@shaswatbhattarai8320 lol no

[@TheJumpman319]

@@shaswatbhattarai8320 you bring up the 1st and 2nd round arguments yet ignore the fact that Lebron has also missed the playoffs more times than Jordan lol. Jordan made the playoffs every year in Chicago and only missed the playoffs when he was an old man in Washington.

[@TGFFTG757]

These guys are the piano keys of sports commentating WE NEED THESE GUYS there energy with each other is unmatched

[@ebethbaluyut8269]

There's no Lebron James without Michael Jordan. Mike's his idol. It doesn't matter if Lebron will be the #1 scoring and assists leader of all time. The fact that he will do them by playing more seasons is just greatness in longevity. Micheal became the GOAT and being talked about until this day by playing lesser seasons than any basketball player.

[@ogkrampus8258]

Yes there wouldn’t be Lebron without Jordan , but you acting like he never suppose to surpass him. In many ways he did.

[@Djme2]

been watching this show almost everyday for like 6 years, same topics since then, aaand still loving every second

[@ItIsAllgood1219]

J. Kidd has lost his mind and just got downgraded from my favorite P.G.

[@oakkblackbird]

Same here. But I do love that fkers shoes, though. The Zoom flight fives is my go-to bball shoe.

[@midwestent.7010]

The fact that you "downgraded" him from your favorite pg because he picked bron over mike show how much of a fanboy you are and show you was never a true fan of jkidd to begin with

[@MikeBNumba6]

He was your favorite pg?

[@BayAreaHoops415]

You’re right I’ll respect Keith’s opinion over an NBA hall of famer any day! You totally have the insight and knowledge of basketball to tell him he’s wrong! 😂😂😂

[@bryanjones9136]

J Kidd is still my guy. Signature shoes were lit, terrible rap song, and a hall of famer. He is that guy!!!

[@alixonfertil1704]

MJ is the GOAT, but The idea that the 3-point shot was not valued during his time is simply NOT TRUE. Larry bird was a known 3-point shooter. Reggie Miller who currently holds the 4th all-time 3-point record played from 1991-2001. 1991, FYI, was the year MJ got his first Championship and retired in 2003.

[@m.j.w.2876]

u named 2 players in an era of 20 yrs stop it

[@phillwilliams2781]

They didn't go jacking up 3s in 80s and 90s. 3s were taken back then to bring back into the game or make a statement

[@capcap6987]

@@phillwilliams2781 Teams 3PA in '97 16.8, Teams 3PA in '07 16.9

[@20k200]

@@capcap6987 that’s basically 4 threes per quarter. That’s not a lot😂😂

[@shamontadams5970]

Every time I👂 Skip say that I get annoyed this man literally makes up whatever to try and win the debate in his mind there were Reggie and Bird who were great players and great shooters but also there were alot of 3pt specialist all around the league like Steve Kerr Mark Price Jeff Hornacek to name a few Jordan just wasn't a volume 3 pt shooter but back than it wasn't focused on as much as now with analytics and all that stuff but for Skip to act as if the 3 pt line didn't exist when Jordan played is ridiculous like most of his takes

[@andrewzvolena395]

When the pressure is on to win a game or title....who do you trust to lead your team more? Jordan all day every day

[@goatjames328]

Legoat 👑 🐐!

[@andrewzvolena395]

@@goatjames328 oooohhhh silly wabbit......you are just as wrong as the Phony Goat was for doing Space Jam 2

[@goatjames328]

@@andrewzvolena395 Legoat 👑 🐐! It’s inevitable! And once he gets Kareem’s scoring crown (a record once thought untouchable) there will be no debate!

[@cjdayne3033]

Finally these guys are talking about Jordan versus LeBron now if we can just get them to talk more about the Cowboys the show would be perfect

[@anthonywelford1379]

Lmao....

[@nateword]

haaaaaaaaa

[@cjdayne3033]

@Juan Gomez yes me too. I hate that tho. I wish we could not watch for a while so maybe they will change. I just can’t stand the constant cowboys talk. It’s literally multiple times every single day

[@demekotv6332]

Go Look At The Stats For Lebron & His Supporting Cast In The Finals & Jordan's Supporting Cast. Look At All The Times They Won.

[@emmanueldedmon6690]

Keep up the good work guys

[@jhhd44]

"Kevin Love said THAT'S A LOT" 🤣🤣

[@alekiak]

The fact that lebron is getting spoken about next to Jordan makes him a goat in his own right. Nobody would’ve thought anybody would come close after Kobe but Bron did it his own way

[@ThaGhettoBlaster]

By having a losing finals record 😂

[@jordangoat2654]

Cause he still playing. Once he retires they’ll find some other great athlete to compare to MJ

[@jordangoat2654]

@@ThaGhettoBlaster exactly

[@lennybeason1110]

Most players new and old pick MJ. There’s even players whose played against both Kobe and Lebron picks Kobe over Lebron but they don’t focus on those players. They only prop up the few that pick Lebron to try and keep this fake Goat debate going that’s just a media pushed narrative. They have never done a real debate with Kobe vs Lebron . Let alone vs Kareem or Magic.

[@idontevenplaylikethat2124]

U need help

[@MelvinWar]

@@idontevenplaylikethat2124 lmfao facts

[@capcap6987]

I love Kobe he's top 10 all time imo. But he's not even in the same atmosphere as LeBron.

[@lennybeason1110]

@@capcap6987 that’s your opinion but there’s plenty of players who disagree!

[@kingali6081]

@@capcap6987 thats just not correct at all. Just plain wrong on that one guy.

[@c.h.2392]

Wow, now THIS is some really fresh content. Good job guys, a new topic. Really establishing your creds as sports hot-take youtube artists - I mean journalists

[@LgndaryJ]

14:36 💯💯💯 starting sum bull jive 😂

[@craigdinney5933]

Guys lile isahh and kidd are haters because Jordan cooked them regularly all while trash talking them

[@kwlodarczyk7]

If you ask me who im starting my franchise with i would say Lebron but if you ask me what player in their prime i would take for 5 seasons i would pick Jordan.

[@corecrit3007]

Good 4 you I’m taking 6/6 Goat & clutch, longevity awards don’t count

[@nostalgiacorner1999]

But LeBron would leave your franchise 🤣

[@Anthonydu01630]

@@nostalgiacorner1999 Lebron played 11 seasons with the CAVS, some players don’t even play 11 seasons, Magic and Bird played 13 seasons, MJ 13 with the BULLS, so what’s the difference ? 2 years ?

[@almightyprofessor]

“Is it his hair?” Skip a trip 😂😂😂

[@ginodico]

These 2 debating Jordan and Bron will never get old. Never.

[@ludasik06]

Of course he did. He got his only ring against Lebron. It lifts up his accomplishment. Simple

[@mpound97]

Dallas would have never beaten Chicago.

[@zion6898]

oh lord here we go again 😂

[@theodorehope8320]

Every three days

[@blackscreen1810]

No one is too tall to be an average free throw shooter

[@fredopoppa3079]

They should talk about the Games of the previous night with the same energy

[@zachhopkins56]

I’m taking the dude with 6 finals mvp

[@dontwatchmewatchtv8039]

I’m taking the dude who has 2 less , and still playing . Also I’m taking the dude who won everywhere. Jordan didn’t win with the wizards . Lebron won with the lakers cavs and heat

[@sac1211]

I'm taking the dude that dominated almost 2 whole decades of basketball and still going

[@zachhopkins56]

@@dontwatchmewatchtv8039 💀 really everyone knew Jordan coming back to play with the wizards was a charity you say James is better but mj is the one with the it factor clutch in him I’ll still take the dude with 6 finals mvps

[@jayh825]

Im taking the dude who didnt score against plumbers lol

[@karimseifull2474]

na I'm taking Bron. he wins chips where he goes. and had the greatest comeback in NBA history

[@SSGourmet702]

So what he's entitled to have his opinion but only one of the two has 6 rings

[@karimseifull2474]

yea and like hella playoff loses. I didn't realize jordan only played 6 seasons. oh yea. he didn't. the bum couldn't reach the finals all those years. ha

[@idontevenplaylikethat2124]

@@karimseifull2474 facts bro

[@allentheskywalker]

The Goat Debate is so hard Because Of What Bron has Done and how long he has done it, And Then MJ had a storybook perfect career, I Love Them Both

[@strawhats100]

"Is it his hair?" -Skip 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Skip on his worst behavior😭

[@riseabove2207]

Literally this is equivalent to phil jackson saying mj was the Goat.

[@Anthonydu01630]

Not really, but Pippen and Kerr, 2 teammates of MJ said Lebron is the goat or at least on the same level as MJ. And Jason Kidd also beat Lebron in the 2011 finals, you act like he was his coach for 10 years lol, they were literally opponents.

[@jtremaine23]

@@Anthonydu01630 Whoa...Pippen didn't say LeBron was the greatest (although I would expect him to today for obvious reasons). Kerr didn't either.

[@PhoenixAscending]

Look how much easier it has been to score in the NBA during Lebron's career, especially as it has advanced, than it was during Jordan's, especially the first half of his career. Look at how many more seasons LeBron has played than Jordan. Look at how many more 3 pointers are taken now, and throughout Lebum's career, than during Jordan's. There are reasons as to why he has passed Jordan on the all time scoring list, and will probably pass everyone

[@hitek9too255]

Jason Kidd, Oscar Robertson, Gilbert Arenas, Spencer Haywood, Scottie Pippen, Jason Williams, Isiah Thomas, Cade Cunningham, Gary Payton, etc. All say Lebron is better than Jordan and they’re right. Lebron is the superior passer, better rebounder, can play all positions , can guard all positions, better three point shooter, higher percentage scorer, better defender, etc plus played way tougher competition overall in a more difficult era. And don’t bring up rings, John Havlicek is 8-0. Robert Horry is 7-0. Adam Morrison has 2, yet that doesn’t make him a better player than Tracy McGrady or Vince Carter. Lebron = GOAT!

[@kd881]

Ive never seen a show play live reruns like this show does

[@johnjovanovichwick4194]

I’ve never seen so many people get mad because they think bron is the goat over jordan, or better than jordan, fact of the matter is not everybody believes MJ the goat.

[@agilla7907]

Most of them believes Jordan Is tho... but yea it's just His oppinion.

[@mpound97]

There's only a few people in the goat discussion and lebron isn't one of them. Looking at his whole career up to this point, he just doesn't have "IT"...

[@alexescutia4805]

@@mpound97 according to mpound97 lol if you don’t think lebron is in the goat discussion you’re not worth debating it with

[@jtremaine23]

Hold up...you have to mention the other way around too. "I've never seen so many people get mad because they still think MJ is better than LeBron."

[@nickc5871]

Rings aside because it’s RB’s in Football, MJ vs Bron is like Sanders vs Smith. We know Smith had a longer career & all time leading rusher, but Barry has the highest peak of any RB in NFL History.

[@Terror832]

I would argue Jim Brown had the most dominant peak for any RB In his 9 seasons he won 3 MVPs, 8 First team All Pros, led the league in Rush Yards 8 times and led the league in Rush TDs 5 times. Also retires the highest rush YPG in NFL history.

[@justinbosmans3658]

The only point Shannon was wrong on all debate: He said Tim Duncan wasn’t that good on D in his last few years. He made all defensive 2nd team in his 2nd to last year in the league

[@Celothxu]

Dunk on Kevin love? Kevin love is KEVIN LOVE!!! LMAOOOOOOOO

[@ENix14]

“Michael Jordan never shot the 3-ball well!” -Shannon MJ - 33% for his career Lebron - 34% for his career 🧐 Skip also made a good point that people can’t seem to understand…3s weren’t emphasized back then at all. It was a sort of court of last resort to get the team back faster from a deficit. And when these two were debating about Tim Duncan’s defense, Shannon said, well they didn’t ask that from Lebron. Yet he’s taking something against Jordan that wasn’t really asked of MJ to begin with. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Jay-xq7ju]

Jordan took way less three he pose to have a way better % than lbj

[@Youvsyou206]

I grew up playing ball and coaches would have a fit if you where shooting 3s. Once curry came things change

[@leetraviusmckay2919]

They both got Jordan's age wrong at 1998. He was 35 and won his 6th championship and Kobe was 15 years younger than Jordan.

[@3rdeyelottery287]

They don’t no Sir that Tequila must be good to SS

[@Celothxu]

"But you gotta think about it, Jordan was 33, 34?" Mj was 35. Lbj is only 2 years older.

[@poohwarrick5640]

Someone tell me when longevity has been a bad thing and not an attribute

[@quantrelknows]

Skips argument “it’s just a longevity stat” is such a dumb argument. You have to ALSO be GREAT to get those said stats during your time in the league

[@mistersunshine1330]

No its not. You can average 10 pts a game for 15 years and be up there in points

[@kingali6081]

Guy avg 1 more rebound and 2 more ast. 3 less pts. Equal in blocks and 1 less steal than Michael. Despite beint what? 3 inches taller and maybe20-30 lbs more muscle? No where near the amount of individual accolades or team accomplishments. Accomplished more in less time. And overall meant more to the game. In literally any other profession in the world if you have a business or a trade where you accomplish more in less time it makes you the more efficient and superior worker. But somehow that logic that applies to literally all of Earth is flipped on head here for you guys to force this guy into the no1 spot. Hes no2 and there is no shame in that at all. Like cmon man grow up already and mature

[@jtremaine23]

I see what you're saying on that last part but for comparison with just great players, longevity can come into play. Malone and Kobe both have more points than MJ but neither are a better scorer. MJ has the highest scoring average so if every single player played the same amount of games, he would have the most points, of course. That's why people bring up longevity.

[@yemoochy9553]

There is Noooo Debate Michael 3 peated LeBron lost 2x that

[@kingdruskii88]

He not even better than KD or Kobe

[@Ultra-BLV]

Duncan finished 8th in DPOY voting in 2015, made 2nd team all defense, finished 3rd in defensive rating, 4th in DBPM, and 4th in DWS. This was Duncan in his 2nd to last season, at age 38. Lebron has failed to place in DPOY voting since 2017, failed to make an all defense team since 2014, and isn’t top 10 in any of those categories this season. There’s no comparison there.

[@markettogo]

Count on Skip to bring up Tom Brady’s name in a discussion about basketball players lmao

[@richardramos8218]

Skip always like to take people at their word so this should be no different

[@the2ndKent]

“Kevin Durant doesn’t have everything.” Tell me one thing KD doesn’t have on the court. It’s wild to think about, I know. But KD doesn’t have a thing he can’t do on the court.

[@ericksantos4555]

He wasn't referring to his versatility. LeBron can do everything, but it doesn't mean he is the best at all of them. Same goes for Durant. Can he pass? Sure, is he the best? No. Can he shoot? yes. Is he the best? No. He's probably the most well rounded player, he can do it all, but there are others more proficient at specific areas.

[@shadow2123]

When Bron passed MJ w/ +1200 less attempts Skip down played it. 😂

[@YassineNouah]

Tim Duncan was great defensively when he was near retirement, not sure what shannon's talking about

[@GAMEOVER-dk1un]

Whole package with a losing finals record, has the capability to crumble at any point….gimmie Jordan

[@mpound97]

Crumble then blame it on teammate.

[@tredd4997]

@@mpound97 A teammate that he hand picked.

[@buschg7106]

King James. Grew up watching both and from Chicago but James 1 for me

[@oakkblackbird]

If what you said were true, I can't understand why you would believe in the Flop King vs Air Jordan.

[@calicoakajdosha9316]

Why are we still having this convo 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@craigcolon6272]

cant believe the disrespect by jason kidd SMFH

[@boonebeasley9622]

Why does he have to agree with you?

[@broadcast3ful]

The fact he has to say "because of what he's in and outside the court' showcases he really doesnt think he's the better player but knows he has to say it, surprised Skip didnt mention that

[@dontwatchmewatchtv8039]

That’s makes no sense dude . He really thinks Lebron is better . If he didn’t . He would of said Jordan . Plain and simple

[@jtremaine23]

@@dontwatchmewatchtv8039 I don't think Shannon believed LeBron was better at first. I think it was to mess with Skip but now, he has fooled himself to actually thinking it now.

[@johnjovanovichwick4194]

Let’s get one thing clear these aren’t just “longevity stats” those are longevity stats that shows LeBron is still playing at an elite level and how great he’s been for this long over a very long time. Stop trying to downplay it by calling it “longevity stats”😂

[@salp.7346]

It's only a matter of time till the Era we play in becomes a topic of why the newer players stats look inflated.. just wait

[@professionalmeatbeater6983]

I mean he’s not wrong 😂😂

[@blackscreen1810]

It is longevity stats though

[@sac1211]

@@blackscreen1810 vince Carter and dirk played more years than lebron why aren't they breaking these "longevity" records?

[@sac1211]

@@salp.7346 lebron is in year 19 not year 9 he played in the dame era as iverson, kobe, Duncan, etc.. that era bad low scoring, tough defenses, and terrible spacing.

[@joellopez5379]

What I can't wrap my head around is. I tight the goal was to win not to worry about all these stats categories. I believe jordan was worried about winning and not the most pts/reb/ast. But I could be wrong