Stephen A., Max get heated on LeBron James vs. Kevin Durant | First Take | ESPN

[@gp7205]

“Kevin Durant is 6’11!!!! Who can pull up from 40!!!”🤣🤣🤣

[@kalimanj]

I'm sleep 🤣🤣

[@saintsbusiness42]

Ok and.......

[@gp7205]

@@saintsbusiness42 ? Idiot

[@saintsbusiness42]

Omg Durant can score he’s gotta be the only one smmfh dummy boi!!! You gotta be a youngin!!!! 90’s baby!!

[@wanilimbe]

@@saintsbusiness42 your one of those guys...

[@mh_077]

SAS be switching up on LeBron everyday lmaoo

[@Bigl1230x]

He have to because then they both will be agreeing on too much regarding Lebron. I noticed this happen after Skip left.

[@glory3141]

Nah he just not biased like skip or Shannon they either hate or dickride Lebron Stephen A keep real about him

[@glory3141]

L Hill that’s not the reason Stephen A always kept it real about lebron even when he choked in 2011 while skip was there

[@eddiejackson7281]

Glory 4 nigga u sound stupid asf 😂this nigga switched up on lebron almost every day like he said simple

[@juniorrebel8479]

Ambition how is that possible. If you switch the first time unless you switch back you can’t switch again lol

[@brzy1188]

Durant is a more unstoppable scorer, LeBron is a more unstoppable offensive player.. it's pretty cut and dry at this point Durant's shooting elevates his scoring above LeBron's but we all seen how he could be slowed down in OKC when you threw double teams at him.. LeBron on the other hand is much more unstoppable going to the rim and if you try and double him he finds the open man like Magic Johnson.. hes also no scrub from the perimeter now to be fair..

[@FootballMatrix]

when was he slowed down in okc?

[@BeingWokeTV]

Lebron isn't unstoppable...Lebron has been stopped many times. We cant say that about KD because he's the most unstoppable player in his prime right now

[@slimkingslayerreaper5431]

ANTONIO chambers that what happen in game 3 it was him and the bench that kill the cavs in game 3

[@brzy1188]

BeingWokeTV Obviously nobody is truly unstoppable it was just phrasing on my part, the sentiment was he is "much more unstoppable" at driving to the rim than KD, meaning much more difficult to stop as he can get there almost at will in a 1v1 or kick it to the open man if you try to double him. Don't know what that dribble was at the end when you spoke about KD though, as you said nobody is unstoppable he just can't get doubled playing for GS.

[@fordaloveofmusic]

Disagree, kd has the ball handling ability to get to the basketball just like lebron. Lebron finds the open man when, he cant get to the rim. Kd being a 6'11 shooter can pull up from anywhere if you cut that off. On the offensive end as well if the team is down 2 and you foul each player to go to the line. 90 percent chance kd will hit both. 73 lebron will. Makes kd more deadly

[@gyoyobw123]

The way Max said "INCORRECT" 🤣🤣

[@AssassinKing30]

"WHO CAN PULL UP FROM 40" 😂😂😂

[@hashamahmed5045]

Finally talking NBA, not boring NFL

[@Devine_Bush]

YEAHH LOLLLLL

[@imjusstchillin5776]

Agreed

[@mr.footage8249]

Hash Hash nice sarcasm. Here we go with Lebron being the number one topic again yawn 😒😴

[@annehburn3129]

The NFL is more unpredictable though

[@hashamahmed5045]

Who cares? Baseball is also unpredictable but it is just as boring as football

[@UFspeed]

When did SAS become Skip Bayless Jr.

[@danandhibb]

Andrew Garfield lol

[@charleslee8974]

When Lebron called him out last year for his bullshit source

[@RKO859]

He has to take on Skip's role when he left. Now Max will assume the LeBron nuthugger role

[@UFspeed]

Oesman if KD is so unstoppable why did he need to ride the coattails of a 73 win team 🤔

[@khulekanimthethwa4871]

@@UFspeed true

[@anasabbas98]

Other than shooting, theres no reason y i would have kd over lebron

[@NoFilterX]

Tyrone Franchize so why dont yall make slashing ball handlers instead of shot creators and sharps every year on 2k? yall dont even like his build the most but call him da best

[@anasabbas98]

DreadsAndKush i have no idea wtf u just said cuz i dont play video games since im not 13 yrs old anymore. But like i said... theres no reason y i want kd over lebron

[@isaiahleatherwood5672]

You can’t even make a LeBron build on 2k. If you made him as good as LeBron at finishing he couldn’t pass, shoot or play defense, like LeBron and you also can’t be 6’8 250 on 2k or you will be slow as fuck lol

[@Swaymotivations]

Isaiah Leatherwood he’s every single build in 2k 😂

[@roningrant759]

@@anasabbas98 ok I get the point your trying to make but thats an ignorant thing to say.

[@emrvld1420]

" HE'S 6'11 & HE CAN PULL UP FROM 40 !!".. 😂 Guess who's Stephen A talking about ? I swear everytime he says that line, KD gets a extra 3 feet more of range. lol

[@TopDrifter203]

should put that on a shirt

[@richardgarnica6549]

When Max says Incorrect it has me dying everytime 😂😂

[@alf2540]

4:44 Max [under his breath]: “Karl Malone passes like magic and shoots, but someone else is better offensively” Molly: “thanks for listening”😂😂😂💀💀💀

[@KingKromah]

51 points. Thanks, goodbye.

[@fekadesenbeta4103]

He was about to say "SKIP" 4:07

[@AK-zo9cw]

😂😂😂

[@shamaryah6250]

He was about to say “skill”

[@Dr-Pepper15]

Who can pUllup from FORTY!!! Whenever SAS says that I die lol

[@jordaniverson7121]

4:00 there goes another pre mixtape interlude clip , man I love when Stephen.A does that 😤

[@Soultrain11]

Call me when KD gets double teamed.

[@frezzyboy32gd]

Soultrain11 only reason they ride kd nuts is because they hate lebron lmao sad sad but preach bro

[@badboyrome1]

Yeah it's not like he hasn't won 4 scoring titles and became a member of the 50-40-90 club prior to GSW.

[@BeingWokeTV]

They litterally doubled team KD from 30 feet when he launched that 3 pointer in Game 3.

[@TheUndefeatedOfTheEast]

This is how rediculous comments sound when you let idiots tell the narrative.

[@Rushking20]

BeingWokeTV no they didnt lebron and hood switched on the PnR steph gets doubled way more then KD is what he’s saying of course hell go off

[@BragoDAce]

Wtf do Stephen A be saying?

[@FireAngelChris]

Brago D. Ace man idk bro this junk be straight up Bs

[@Forthreee]

HES 6’11 AND CAN PULL UP FROM 40!

[@MINK2393]

Brago D. Ace The facts

[@Jordan5s]

Anything for shock value

[@joshford1239]

I don't get why people don't get it. It is this easy HE HAS NO PRESSURE, he knows it he doesn't have to preform he has 3 hall of famer. Talk to Lebron James, Tiger Woods, WHEN IT IS ALL ON YOUR BACK IT IS A LOT HARDER. That is why he needs to shut up and take his rings.

[@antfazo4783]

KD - 4 scoring titles, 1 Mvp LBJ - 1 scoring title, 4 Mvp’s

[@Zz-gu6xx]

But somehow lebron averages 27.2 whilst KD averages 27.say no more

[@genixter4972]

@@Zz-gu6xx maybe because he has a longer career maybe ?

[@dezz8598]

Gen Ixter length doesn’t matter when it comes to career averages.

[@v_rapture_v]

@@dezz8598 no its usage rate. Look how much longer LeBron has the ball in his hands than KD! Means waaaaaay more opportunities to get a good shot. If you take away LeBrons paint % KD shoots better at literally every single spot. So in other words KD scores as much as Lebron without the ball in his hands hardly at all. Imagine if you actually put the ball in his hands, be averaging 40.

[@kalilova]

SAS fell right into Max's offensive question trap. I knew that he was going to go right towards assist when he said playing 5 on 5. SAS just has tunnel vision, and only hears what he want's to hear.

[@IsaiasMGPalafox]

Stephen A. will say this about KD, but still call LBJ the best player in the world. 🤔

[@RA-nl8rd]

The guy is lost like his hairline

[@BeatsbyZay]

People think offense is just scoring. It isn't. LeBron reads defenses way better than KD. LeBron is better in the pick & roll, attacking the rim, passer, and creating mismatches. His offensive IQ far outweighs KD's.

[@connorsmith6517]

BeatsbyZay a lot of people don’t know basketball bro.

[@NoFilterX]

Connor R. Smith nah you dont know bball nogga. stop counting team efforts dumbass. when you compare offensive skill between two players, how tf is driving and passing outweigh everything else kd does better?

[@nov11794]

you act like kd cant do that, there limitations to lebrons game as well. max talk about malone with a 3. I'm like what happened to lebron 3 point percentage in the playoffs

[@theartofcompetition5965]

DreadsAndKush because maybe kd is a better 3 point shooter, mid range, shooter, fadeaways, stepbacks, crossover, etc etc, but lebron scores the same amount of points on a better effeciency by being a one trick pony well then that one trick pony is still better. the objective is the same but just different paths to get there. the path does not matter all that matters is the result.

[@shawtv1733]

BeatsbyZay nah

[@erikpuka2627]

Stephen A is secretly becoming the biggest Lebron hater

[@kalealennis3515]

Shaun King Naw he didn't join a stack team just to win rings just like the bitch he is now

[@michaelbarrett8379]

So when you say something critical about lebrons game you automatically a hater? got ya

[@itsonlydirt1994]

Its not Hate! He just watched KD drop 30+ on Lebron in Back-to-Back Championships!!! What part of that yall dont understand??

[@ianwilson4483]

Why? Because he's giving Kevin Durant props?

[@Luk3-936]

Shaun King naw because lebron put him in his place last season and Stephen a got off his dick after his whole career lol

[@JeebyTube]

Where tf is OSN

[@omarrenteria8197]

Jeeby. Tube Fr. He been gone for a minute now. As soon as money start running short, he gonna be uploading twice a day for two weeks. Then leave

[@jordanlee1279]

KEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKE

[@Cdoitlive]

MAN FORGOT ABOUT ABOUT THE OG

[@JeebyTube]

Compton 187 lmaoo

[@chickennoodlesoup4005]

@dallas fe facts bro.

[@orvcharl1]

Oscar Robertson is the guy that fought in court for NBA free agency. Tf you mean, "thanks LEBRON"??

[@Mimi4826]

orvcharl1 it's amazing how they skip over these facts

[@t.o2264]

Jameel Gayle Boston Celtic’s started that get ya facts right uneducated basketball fan

[@GgGg-qd8lp]

Lebrons bugger and more known

[@albertedmond9134]

T .O those were organizations who put teams together Miami was the first time players said I’m going to leave my team to go play with theses players

[@Axel2992]

Jameel Gayle dude knows exactly what Max meant but everybody gotta act like they know more sports than the last guy lol cornballs

[@KJ-yn8pr]

“6’11 and can pull up from 40!!” 😂😂

[@Devine_Bush]

i cant give the whole speil right now

[@raulhinojosa3860]

Hah HAgghh Heghhahh Hahhhgg hhe HHEEa

[@emaj2323]

Dumb as hell 😂😂hee hee haaaaaah hee hee

[@gooby2065]

Max is trippin

[@xxdniccexx1883]

Steven A you lost this one bruh...

[@emilsantos439]

He won

[@najaclark966]

He really did

[@bred1s928]

U just a hater cause anyone with basketball iq knowssss kd is a better scorer easily

[@drrahulgarg]

Here Max distroyed the Stephen A Smith

[@Suge8263]

He sound dumb here max doesn't know what he talking about

[@armanc25]

Ur an idiot

[@delroyterrelonge6085]

Thank you Stephen for acknowledging magic and Michael who set the stage for today's generation. Those 2 guys really nationlized then globalized the game of basketball and gave star athletes more power to determine their future

[@TheKing-md3rl]

Stephen A now saying pull up from 40 to prove his points about kd 😂

[@hoopist7823]

KD is better offensively easy

[@isaacm4159]

No he's not lmao. LeBron is a better playmaker and passer and he is also a very productive scorer. C'mon bro, learn basketball.

[@yhwhfearingguy646]

@@isaacm4159 playmaking and passing are the same thing

[@isaacm4159]

@@yhwhfearingguy646 No they aren't. If you think that then you dont know much very much about basketball.

[@isaacm4159]

@@yhwhfearingguy646 Playmaking is basically about reading the defense and controlling the offense, signaling to teammates where to go depending on the defense and putting them in position to score and make plays.

[@yhwhfearingguy646]

@@isaacm4159 that's the coach and pg's job, why would a small forward need to do that?

[@theronwright1413]

Kd just got better team and folks don’t realize how kd benefits from Steph double teams.

[@topherraven4246]

Max was right Stephen Smith just holds something against him

[@outscoresports]

“What are you watching WHAT ARE YOU WATCHING?” 🤣🤣🤣

[@kayspiffy]

Max literally just hates KD obviously

[@SpiteCloud9]

Max is the most unbiased reporter ever what?! Nick wright, skip, Shannon, they’re all biased and don’t know what they’re saying

[@ElverGalarga-bo9uo]

CRASH BANDiHOOP he just love lebron to much

[@kayspiffy]

Wu Tang x max doesn’t know what he’s saying. He said kd is the 4th best player on the world??? Like wtf how is the best scorer on the planet the 4th best player?? That man hates kd and doesn’t see fairness all because kd left his favorite player okc 😂😂.

[@Neutron5492]

Stephen A Smith : LEMME TELL YOU SOMETHIGNGIFKNFUFJBBGTII: DID I STUTTERSOFIEKCNTOWKK, RIDICULOUS MAX!

[@Knowledge.Seeker100]

Max literally killed Stephen A. in this

[@jazzroyale7260]

Right dude had the nerve to send a jab at him talking about “this ain’t boxing, we ain’t talking about a punch, etc.. you asked me about basketball” he knew he lost the argument there, got all defensive for no reason.

[@anthonyjames5655]

The look on Max's face at 4:41 is hilarious 😂

[@marcuskoa]

SAS used to say KD could pull up from 30!! after 2 rings, he can now pull up from 40?!

[@lovenwolf4155]

Lbj is far more greatest..only shooting can kd excel the king

[@psych6899]

Nevflix T.V kd scores better than lbj and more efficiently

[@junsman3016]

Mycah KD a better scorer but LBJ has great efficiency

[@iticklefatkids5669]

Mycah scores better? Lmao lebron averages more points and higher fg%

[@iticklefatkids5669]

Juns Man lebron averages more ppg but ok

[@iticklefatkids5669]

x12 417 finishing, passing, athleticism, interior defense and leadership

[@slimkingslayerreaper5431]

Kevin Durant is better than curry. Curry and his boys went to the hotel where kd was at. Told him to put his ego to side and let form a dynasty. 16-1 and 4-0

[@SS-ub6rj]

Slim Kingslayer Reaper Somehow you bring Curry into the convo lmaoo your fav player choked a lead to curry then ran to get a ring you clown ahahahahahahaha

[@slimkingslayerreaper5431]

Salah Saed you the clown. You know curry beg kd to come and join him

[@15dmoney15]

It was Draymond who spoke to KD

[@HillTopHungBuck7]

@GNB Curry-0 Finals Mvp.

[@SuperGamer87]

Durant is not better than Curry. He couldn't even beat Curry, when Curry was a bit hurt and Durant had a 3-1 lead over GSW in 2016. Durant simply profits from the cushion that Curry and company provides. He stands atop another man's dynasty, and then beats his cheat about it. So lame.

[@keviny704]

Kd is the better scorer but Lebron is more efficient. Beyond that its not close. Lebron has so many more thingsbhe brings to the game than KD. Lots of players can do some of the things he does but we've NEVER seen a player that can do them all to the level Lebron can. Not a Lebron fanatic just a love of the game and anyone else that knows basketball and not fandom will agree.

[@The_Gamers_Gamer]

More efficient? When did Bron join the 50-40-90 club? When did he average 30+?

[@keviny704]

@@The_Gamers_Gamer You do know that efficiency doesn't equal points right? It's a ratio of how many points scored per attempt. For example people praise Kobe for having a 45 point game but he may have took 30 shots to get there. Lebron is one of the most efficient players we've ever seen. KD is definitely getting better because of the lesser workload he has but he's not as efficient at bron or others.

[@amphysvena3567]

Lebron can do anything you're right. I agree. He can score, rebound, and pass. Lebron plays any position whichever is necessary. What else? Lebron can also do flops (wish there is a stat for this), lebron is clutch in travelling. He's way beyond KD really.

[@The_Gamers_Gamer]

@@keviny704 No one can take your argument seriously when you say "may have". That just means you're talking out your ass so save your arbitrary definitions of efficiency. Also to be fair Bron averaged over 30 twice(30 and 31.7) but he never eclipsed KDs 32 his MVP year.

[@RallyCityEnt]

They both average 27 points a game for a career; KD is not a better scorer and LeBron is not more efficient...KD is a Individual Scorer and LeBron is Team Enhancement Scorer meaning LeBron is Wayyyy more of a fundamental offensive team player!

[@ianswyers4371]

Preach SAS!

[@sharonallen9579]

SAS: my sources are telling me that Kevin Durant was just spotted eating at a In n out burger in La MAX: do you think He's hinting that he wanna play for the Lakers next year

[@hammerking1200]

KD has 4 scoring titles and LeBron has 1. It's common sense.

[@SuperGamer87]

And that LeBron BEAT KD in the Finals, before KD went and joined the best team in the League, just to beat LeBron. THAT'S common sense. If we're just about stats alone, then I guess Steve Kerr is a better shooter than Steph Curry? Since Kerr_still_ holds the career 3P % record? KD focused on scoring. LeBron focused on winning.

[@calvinluciano]

SuperGamer87 KD also outplayed lebron in that finals in 2012 did you forget KD averaged 30 on 50% shooting lebron didn’t lmfaooo

[@Jacob5044]

How is scoring your only aspect of offense u sound slow

[@calvinluciano]

Mac Mac it’s the main one if we talking individually footwork handles finesse agility midrange 3pt finishing etc court vision passing & rebounds are measured off team play

[@blackphillip564]

LeBron has 4 MVPs, KD has....

[@derrickket5625]

Max is right. LeBron is a far more talented offensive player. Unstoppable going to the rim, can beat you with the pass, and his jump shot has been getting better every year. KD is a better scorer. Idk how SAS doesn’t see this.

[@alfonsovega25]

DerrickKet562 Lebron has more tools in his bag.

[@SShaBazzz]

Max, are you dumb? KD is clearly the more unstoppable offensive player between the two of them. Not just scoring. You act as if KD never had a triple double. So he obviously can pass. His presence stretches the floor just by standing there. Then you can start with the scoring. There is no place on the floor that KD is weak from. Down low, he can use Dirk's move with post up. Hes the greatest mid range shooter the league has ever seen, he has maybe the 3rd best 3 point shot in the game. He can go 5 ft behind the 3 point line and still be a threat. KD has better handles. Lebron in no way shape or form, is in the same league as KD on Offense alone. You bugging Max.

[@kingsolo6488]

No hes right kd is only a better shooter lebron is a better passer and playmaker

[@SShaBazzz]

@@kingsolo6488 not true. KD's offensive scoring ability matches Lebrons Playmaking and passing. And again, Lebron passing would make sense only if KD couldn't pass. We know KD can pass and is a good passer. It's why he can get a triple double in games. He doesnt choose to play that way because it's not his style. But we arent comparing styles in which you choose to play, we are debating who is the better offensive player by their abilities in general and that is without doubt Kevin Durant.

[@bill11ringsrussell66]

SShaBazzz lebron is better on anything on offense what stats did kd have huh? Yeah I know kd only had 7 40+ point games in his whole career in the playoffs and lebron had 8 40+ point games only this playoffs case closed it’s not even close

[@isaacsekitoleko6471]

This was eloquently stated @SShaBazzz...

[@purcss]

just stop.

[@HedgeHogTail_]

Hold up, who averaged more points? More assists? Had a better FG% ? Who passes better? Who can bully ANY player on the court and score at will? Who can score the tougher and harder shot/layup? Who is the better off-hand finisher? Who can read the defense better? Who plays the pick-and-roll better? Who has a higher basketball IQ? LeBron James is the answer to all of these questions. These questions are about offense. Offense is not about scoring, it is about running the offense, it is about passing. LeBron can handle like a guard, pass like the greatest point guard of all time, finish at the rim like no one else, can score the midrange and has a higher FG%. Only thing Durant can do better is shoot 3's. Come on bruh!

[@muneebsharif543]

its appaling how few people actually understand the difference between offense and scoring, or the difference between a better scorer and a more versatile scorer

[@Convict854]

Just wondering why stephen a even bothers saying Lebron's the best player when he obviously doesnt think it. So kd's a better offensive player, but lbj's better overall? Why though, defense?

[@iang7244]

Better passer, better court vision, better handle. Hes just smarter offensively than KD. He doesn't have KD's skill set but still scores just as much and tries to get his teammates involved. I dont think KD is really better at defense, atleast, he hasn't been over his career. LBJ averages more steals and has been on All defensive teams. KD has never been on one. So if he somehow is a better defender, it's very recent. www.landofbasketball.com/player_comparison/kevin_durant_vs_lebron_james.htm

[@mmd-xb1oe]

@@iang7244 better handle you must be smoking my dude😂😂

[@iang7244]

@@mmd-xb1oe Kevin Durant does not have a better handle than Lebron James. LBJs handle isnt elite or anything, but it's better than KDs.

[@mmd-xb1oe]

@@iang7244 I really think not I mean it's just a difference by a hair anyways but KD is 7 ft and has the handles of a 6'3

[@Kidimo_]

Ian G 100% Kd recently started becoming a better defender and its probably because of the help of the defensive player of the year hes playing with. And handles dont really matter, they both are fowards that can handle the ball and go where they have to go. What your left with is a pure playermaker that can score with the best and a pure scorer that is a good playmaker. So i give lebron the edge

[@lachlanbeggs6386]

When KD is going into 17th season averaging 28,8,8 then talk to me

[@KillingWithaSmile613]

Lebron doing really good in the west. Facts

[@ajterry5626]

Max is a joke... i hate kds move to the warriors more than anyone but to say Lebron is far more unstoppable offensively than Kevin Durant is comedy. Kevin Durant is by far, and has been during the course of his career, the deadliest offensive weapon in the nba.

[@aloziechibueze337]

In all honesty I think he is the greatest offensive player on earth and likely ever played. The GOAT conversation i can give that to Jordan or Lebron; but in the offense kingdom KD is inhuman!

[@ajterry5626]

Alozie Chibueze Exactly, Lebron is obviously better in a lot of other categories, but there’s no denying Kd dominates on offense more

[@kennyransome1481]

AJ Terry like what other areas is lebron better in?

[@SuperGamer87]

Offense can also include _leadership_ skills. More than just scoring, how well can you help orchestrate the offense? You think KD's ever been an orchestrator? He's an elite scorer, and a decent-enough defender (now), but that's just about it. And since being on the best team in the NBA (which he didn't help build), he's benefited even more, with all those open shots that Steph creates for him. It's gotten harder to measure just how truly good KD is anymore, because he's not pulling his own weight anymore. He has three other All-Stars (make that, FOUR other All-Stars now), to assist him. For instance, I thought Steph had three standout games in the last Finals, whereas Durant only had one real standout game. Yet KD got the FMVP yet again (thanks, Rachel Nichols and Jeff Van Gundy...clowns). LeBron's filled every stat and role that one can fill, during the last few Finals, even at an age where most players would be in steady decline by now. LeBron does other people's job so much and so often, sometimes it's even a detriment to his team. But he can still do it, AND get you a triple-double on any given night.

[@Hydro.420]

This is why kids like you are so stupid. You think offense is only shooting the ball. Offense is playmaking, handling the ball, running the actual offense, and scoring. KD is a better shooter than LeBron. That's it. What else is better at offensively? Not driving. Not posting up. Not playmaking. Not handling the ball. Not running a team. So he's better at ONE part of offense, which is shooting 3s, that's pretty much it. That doesn't make him better offensively overall, he'd never be able to actually carry a team by himself like LeBron did this year and in 07 to the finals. Educate yourself a bit

[@sambognosis1433]

I totally understand Max. Say this for if you was to switch Lebron to the Warriors and Kd to the Cavs what would be the turnout?

[@ai120thx]

At 4.37 when Stephen A says "I'm not even talking to you anymore this is ignorant" that's hilarious especially max's face when he realises he has no one to talk to anymore lol

[@MileoMajor]

Stephen A is right about KD. He can't be stopped and he can shoot anything.

[@moonoo2353]

Man, KD is extremely efficient thanks to his 3 other superstar teammates. He aint getting double teamed at all. Kd is great but cmon Bron is better player.

[@Suge8263]

Max tripping hard

[@jacquonf4925]

Who’s here after the Celtics whopping KD and the Nets

[@kentrellgaulden3498]

Max won this debate

[@tyreselynch6184]

I won't go as far to say that LeBron is way better that Kd , thats just ignorant Kd is better than Curry in my opinion but if you was to put Kd in cavs he isn't gonna be able to carry the team like lebron did and they would get swept b4 the eastern finals.....Kd has a more talent in scoring but LeBron is alot Smarter Offensively and good offense isn't just about scoring

[@Jrock420blam]

Let's see KD lost a 3-1 lead to a 73-9 team and then joined said team. LeBron came back being down 1-3 vs a 73-9 win team as a massive underdog. Does anything more need said? Like if MJ joined the Pistons or Celtics after they kept sweeping him for his first 8 years.

[@LakersFanSinceJulyst]

Exactly

[@mitchellmartinsky2299]

durant is still a better player

[@Jrock420blam]

True, Jordan also struggled and lost for 8 years before his superteam broke through but neither LeBron or MJ left their team to join teams that were already winning championships. Heat didn't even make the playoffs when LBJ joined. LeBron like all champions not named Dirk played on loaded teams but they were never healthy, with Wade's and Kyrie's injuries and Bosh and Love being cripples by the time they joined.

[@libracool2746]

The Heat did make the playoffs that's a myth.

[@libracool2746]

Exactly the bulls didn't have a superteam. It's been proven Lebron played with more allstars and hall of famers. Those players that was with MJ were journeyman and were on the bench. MJ made those guys play at high-level with his aura.

[@calvinluciano]

yeah im siding with SAS KD has better handles footwork midrange 3pt etc lebron is only the better passer & finisher lmfaooo

[@juliangonzalez6841]

FINISHER !!!! HAHAHA !!! QUIT PLAYING.

[@calvinluciano]

Julian Gonzalez what ? lebron bulldozes & his fg% from distance is only more efficient in the restricted area than KD most of his points comes from in the paint so you have to give him finisher

[@riqui5406]

People seem to forget the difference between being a better 1v1 offensive player in a vaccum, and being a better 5v5 basketball player. For the former, it goes: 1.KD 2. Kyrie 3. Curry 4. LeBron (something like that) For the latter, it goes: 1. LeBron 2.Curry Everybody else

[@NothingElseMattersJM]

B Person dominating the ball at point, stat padding your assists and playing no defense does not make you a better 5 on 5 player lol .

[@NothingElseMattersJM]

DRAWN are you serious ? Saying someone stat pads isn’t hating lmfao . It’s just a fact that some players do it. I use to do it all the time in high school during blowouts. Why do you think 6’3 point guard in Westbrook averaged so many rebounds? Lmao his teammates literally move out the way and let grab boards along with Westbrook playing no defense and standing near the paint so he can grab more lol

[@NothingElseMattersJM]

DRAWN “Durant only scores now due to 4 all stars taking the pressure off him”... so I guess we’ll pretend like Durant didn’t have 4 scoring title in okc LOLOL. There’s a difference between being a main option and ball dominant. Kd plays off ball a lot but is still the main option. Get with the times . Lebron will never get to the finals out west lol

[@x_lightskin_x3519]

Yoo imagine what SAS really wanted to say 😂😂

[@HillTopHustlerHbg]

Kd going to LA will justify his move to Golden State. People will view it as rectification but how do you over look the opportunity for GS to end up with 5, 6 rings. Straight!

[@westbreezyfuck-gayd6333]

Heather Perrelli nothing can justify Kd’s Pussy move.. he joined a mvp with a 73-9 record he blew a 3-1 lead to. PATHETIC

[@westbreezyfuck-gayd6333]

jaguarjaonzz nobody hates on that coward, they’re just being honest

[@badboyrome1]

Maybe if Westbrick didn't shoot 7-21 in a game 7 while KD shot 50% he would've still been in OKC

[@westbreezyfuck-gayd6333]

Messiah excuses, the problem isn’t that he left okc u delusional dummy the problem is he joined a mvp with a 73-9 record he blew a 3-1 lead to. PATHETIC you’re a fake basketball fan

[@badboyrome1]

Westbreezy# FUCKGAYD Only one pathetic is you Westbrick lover LOL

[@khalidnawabi7188]

SAS IS MAD BECAUSE LEBRON JAMES NEVER give him an interview😂😂😂😂

[@brobeans9519]

This is such a pointless debate... KD is a better and more skillful scorer, LeBron a better playmaker overall, although Durant improved a lot in the last 2 years. KD is a better defender, although i think James still has quite a bit of defense left in him, but just looking at last year u gotta give Durant the edge here. also KD is in a perfect situation in GS: his "weaknesses" (more like points where he isn't outstanding) are being covered up and he draws less attention, due to his teammates, so he looks better (and maybe he even is). in the end you can take whoever you want here. Both have weaknesses and strenghts. in the end it's up to your personal prioritization of the different aspects of the game. btw, you can be a more skillful but still a worse scorer (that doesnt apply to Durant but still) bonus question to my readers: do you think it is a testamony to James' greatness or a statement about the state of the league that year 15 LeBron James is still easily one of the 2 best players in the nba

[@isaiahjones4557]

Mendsaikhan Mendsuren KD isn’t the better “offensive” player though. Offense includes ball handling and passing too and lebron does everything

[@brobeans9519]

Isaiah Jones yeah i agree. i didnt put this in, thought i did :P still KD's ball handling isnt worse than LeBron's and his passing ability is improving. but james' basketball IQ especially offensively is on another level, which with his court vision and passing ability makes him the better player on that end, at least imo. sadly James didnt try on the other end, hopefully that changes when he gives away some of the offensive workload.

[@bill11ringsrussell66]

Mendsaikhan Mendsuren it’s false tough kd is on the warriors just cuz he’s winning doesn’t mean he’s better lmao I’m the goat now? Kd has 7 40+ point games in the playoffs lebron had 8 40+ point games just this playoffs case close not even close

[@mlo2523]

Mendsaikhan Mendsuren LeBron is not a two way player

[@brobeans9519]

@@bill11ringsrussell66 i think i never said winning makes you the better player. That's right. As i said: Durant is in a great situation where he only has to do what he is great at, without exposing his weaknesses. But Lebron has more possession of the ball so has more responsibility but also more usage out of every possession. I just try to not take too mich away from KD just because he has a great team, the same way i try to not give him too much credit for that

[@Bxu9990]

Max actually has a point. If you hear him right at the beginning, he is talking about offense as it pertains to a team game. He even clarifies at the end by telling Stephen A that Stephen A is only thinking about offense as scoring. Kevin Durant is a better scorer than Lebron but Lebron has enough scoring prowess plus passing skills/setting teammates up to score. Therefore it could be debatable that Lebron is better offensively.

[@JM-lg1qg]

i agree. but here’s something else to think about too. people say Durant is the better scorer yet Lebron and KD have the same PPG average for a career. 🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️ makes ya wonder.

[@mugiwara-reaper]

So Max said offensive person but then said he's not talking about scoring 🤣🤣🤣

[@musakhalid3816]

Offensive doesn’t mean just scoring dummy

[@zetarian9504]

SAS on and off with lebron every episode it seems

[@keithupton6887]

Max getting to It 👏🏽👌🏽😂

[@TonyHemetona]

KD better now

[@Kj-lg2lb]

Tony Hemetona U fell off big time g😂😂😂

[@JayFreezy86]

I always disagree with Max. I always agree with Stephen A.

[@StuntmanBeatz313]

He said forget about shooting who's better offensively. What!!?? 😂😂😂😂

[@joshford1239]

I don't get why people don't get it. It is this easy KD HAS NO PRESSURE, he knows it he doesn't have to preform he has 3 hall of famer. Talk to Lebron James, Tiger Woods, WHEN IT IS ALL ON YOUR BACK IT IS A LOT HARDER. That is why he needs to shut up and take his rings.

[@s001til]

Because people are...well; they forget quickly & shut down half their brains. U are 100% correct. KD never did yhis in Okc against Lebron. so he runs to a 72 win team

[@Suge8263]

@@s001til I'm saying this as a basketball fan offensively Kevin Durant is greater than LeBron and why are you acting like the first half of his career with OKC doesn't matter he had 4 scoring titles and mvp and remind you he's the youngest scoring champion ever

[@s001til]

+Black Shades Johnny Cage Purely scoring, I agree with you. Dont get me wrong, KD is a bad man. Just didnt like the move.

[@OGXIV]

Josh Ford lebron ain’t have shit on his back after his first move since Miami he’s been surrounded by guys who have made names for themselves on their own team it’s just when they get put in the lebron system they then turn to trash because selfish lebron wants all the praise

[@OGXIV]

Another thing kd surrounded by shooters who been very streaky the last two years to say kd has no pressure is like saying lebron never used performance enhancers......

[@jeffboird6050]

Durant is a more skillful ball handler than lebron and better 3pt midrange and ft shooter as of right now he’s a better perimeter defender and can shot block almost as good as lebron but no quite and Kevin Durant can do things that make him easier to fit into teams that lebron can’t and that’s move off ball such an overlooked skill

[@Hydro.420]

you think LeBron can't move off ball? I guess you never watched him play in Miami, when him and D-Wade shared ball handling and both also played off the ball. Not surprised though, you probably don't watch him play.

[@AlienIce]

@@Hydro.420 I'm just waiting on the season to start so that LeBron can shut these people up

[@jeffboird6050]

Kappa I’m talking bout now the present it’s not that hard to understand back then lebron was an amazing off ball player especially in like 08 or Miami I saw that but I’m talking bout now presents that’s why his usage rating is so high he always needs the ball in his hands

[@Hydro.420]

@@jeffboird6050 I get it but you also gotta understand he hasn't had a great playmaker since leaving Miami. Kyrie is amazing and one of the best scorers but not a great playmaker. He's had to hold the ball like that, look at how they did when he sat

[@jeffboird6050]

Kappa fair enough that’s sounds pretty reasonable the only thing that annoyed me about lebrons career is the fact that he wasn’t drafted into a favorable situation like mj bird magic Kobe they all had organizations that had a team for them to contend or were making steps to build around them so they can contend in the future all those greats when they went to the finals had the team necessary to complete lebron didn’t always have that everytime but people overlook that so it hurts his legacy in a way

[@charlesc.b2435]

Laker Fan here...Durant is a better player than LeBron, Lebron doesn't play defense and he plays bully ball, he is a great passer and an all-time great but no one with real basketball knowledge would confuse LeBron with having the arsenal of skill than Durant has, Offensively its just not close between them Durant can kill you from any spot on the court Lebron can't do that consistently, Defensively Durant is elite where Lebron is statistically awful, and the are both elite rebounders for there positions. LeBron is a physical anomaly in ways that Durant is not but I wouldn't take Lebron over Durant ....Hopefully Ingram can evolve into the deadly threat that Durant is.

[@franknice187]

Durant is not on lbj level.....period......i dono what game u been watching

[@juliangonzalez6841]

Thanks for the break down well said I applaud you !!! 👏👏👏

[@riprockbuck1359]

KD:hi First take: what is he really saying?

[@mafuzzyman]

SAS is right kd is more offensively unstoppable

[@jerrygranvillejr.5137]

Scoring only**

[@LD-ji5sz]

What Lebron Joined is a completely different story than what KD joined. Lebron joined a team who struggled to make it past the first round the prior 3-4 seasons. Lebron didn't join the Celtics, he joined a team that was trying to beat them also.

[@TarvarisJenkins24]

Miami Heat LeBron joined 2 top 10 players in the league at the time lol stop the nonsense

[@TarvarisJenkins24]

They totally revamped that heat team you sound ignorant

[@Humphking]

Wtf are you talking about, D fucking Wade was a champion already and a top 5 player in the league, C. Bosch was the 2nd to 3rd best PF in the game at the time, then they added Jesus Shuttlesworth.

[@mitchellmartinsky2299]

it was still similar and they were the favorites when they got those 3 players

[@LD-ji5sz]

But they hadn't proved anything yet. Celtics were still favorites when CB joined D Wade. Probably still not favorites over the Celtics if Lebron would of never joined. That Celtics team was really deep even after getting Lebron it still took 7 games to beat them. Warriors were already built from the ground up. That D wade team that won the championship in 06 was long gone. KD joined a team that had made two consecutive finals appearances. KD had played with Westbrook and Harden and still decided he needed more help... Two players with MVP's on their resumes in today's game. Westbrook was still a top 5 player in the league at the time. Lets face it, KD only joined the Warriors cause he wanted the spotlight that Lebron was getting and he took the easiest way to get it. My problem with KD's decision is not that he left the Thunder, my problem is that he joined the best team in the league instead of joining another team that could potentially beat them.

[@ronrongee4981]

Kevin Durant Is better than LeBron James Period.....

[@iliabertagenor8997]

lebron the best player in the nba

[@donnadunbar5342]

Kd is better than lebron

[@purcss]

this shouldn’t be a debate.

[@eccentriceli3541]

I like how Max has been getting more aggressive about this recently.

[@Epiphda1]

You're unstoppable when you need a pick damn near every time you got the ball at the top of the key! You're unstoppable when you push off with your off arm & travel to complete a duck or lay up! KD destroys Bron one on one! Jordan and Kobe used to wave the pick off they didn't need it. Bron has limited handles. He gets too much credit! Wade, Bosh, etc... Ray Allen from the corner & Kyrie in CLE who to me was the best player on that team!

[@caliba100]

Another dumb one on the internet. Bron is a better scorer than KD when he puts his mind to it. When KD has the ball, he makes his primary defender shake but when LeBron has the ball, he makes all 5 players shake because he impacts the whole game with his basketball genius. Thats what separate LBJ from KD.

[@libracool2746]

You preaching today bro. Let everybody say Amen!

[@tylerbernard4368]

Epiph Da 1 man I hate people like u never wanna give LeBron his credit this dumdass nigga just said Kyrie is better than LeBron umm what

[@Lormanman]

😂😂😂 dat boy born got niggas HURT‼️

[@bill11ringsrussell66]

Epiph Da 1 haha kyrie the best player where was he before lebron came yes in the lottery my guy kyrie is overrated af here are some facts for ur dickhead Kd: 7 40+ point games in the playoffs his whole career Lebron: 8 40+ point games in only this years playoffs Case closed don’t even talk also career high lebron 61 kd 54 bye noob try again

[@ThoughtsPlural]

LeBron better than Durant offensively?!? Max putting his ignorance on display yet again. Smh

[@angkurrongpi]

Kevin Durant is far more skilled and talented than Lebum..Lebum is just better at using his physicality..kd murdered lebum in the finals..

[@iliabertagenor8997]

4 all stars by his side

[@blakewagner2895]

no his team murder lebrons

[@SpiteCloud9]

Another biased idiot

[@GeekHazu]

thanks for listening

[@AATWT11]

Offense is more than scoring you 10 year olds. Being able to initiate offense while scoring at the absolute highest level is insane and only a couple people can say they've done that.

[@MIYIAUQ]

Pull up from 40 is a little much

[@thatcoolkid777]

CiTYLiGHTS a huge hyperbole, I’d even roll my eyes when he says that about steph lmao he does sometimes but its not something he does on regular basis

[@MIYIAUQ]

Shay Butta it’s to painful to rewatch

[@factscheck2024]

So lebron is better because of his passing abilities 😂🤣🤣he passes the ball to the open shooter with hope of the other man scoring !!!that's makes him the better offensive player I'm done,look the man is a 3 but plays the 1 just be the 1 like Magic, blindwitnesses tell the truth he assist the ball he does nothing else better then KD on the court now besides Basketball the man is great I love Lebron but my eyes are open !!!

[@iliabertagenor8997]

you cant penalize lebron because kd playing with the best team of all time

[@iliabertagenor8997]

how kd a better scorer but lebron average more

[@theartofcompetition5965]

iliabert agenor hes not a better scorer but lebron averages more because kd has 4 all stars to pass it to lol

[@NK-iw6rq]

KD can never be in the conversation of greatest players.

[@massman5339]

He already is

[@NK-iw6rq]

@@massman5339 No he isn't. Joining GSW to win his rings disqualified him from that. If he wins with the Nets then maybe.

[@massman5339]

LeBron did the same thing *for his time*. He joined a situation where he literally couldn’t lose. And don’t get me started on the Adam Silver chip in CLE.

[@NK-iw6rq]

@@massman5339 Miami heat wasn't a contender before he joined. They were not in the finals for 2 straight years behind he joined. They didn't win a chip in the years before he joined. They didn't have have current back 2 back MvP before he joined. The heat didn't go 72-9 before he joined. GSW checked all those boxes before KD joined. Stop playing yourself comparing the heat to the warriors. LBJ formed a team to take out the best at the time which was the Celtics. KD just straight up joined the best team.

[@massman5339]

@@NK-iw6rq what?? LeBron joined the best team that he could at the time. super teams did not exist until LeBron joined Miami. That’s why I emphasized *for that time*. DWade was already a proven champion in 06 and was in the conversation for best player in the world when LeBron joined him in 2010-2011. Plus adding a proven all-star in Bosh made them the favorite to win. The point is that with both situations the players put themselves in situations where they could not lose. Not to mention that he actually loss to a single star in Dirk Nowitski that year lmao This is the main issue with these new LBJ fans is that they equate excitement with skill. Understand that he’s great but stop overhyping him to be something he’s not. It’s gross.

[@nickfriend4633]

The fact that the Warriors core has stayed together this long is a damn near miracle. Things like ego and complacency usually split groups apart. Klay and his dad have said he wants to stay, so of course leave it to KD to want go against the grain because when does the fragile, egomaniac not want to do that? Talked about this yesterday on my channel.

[@freshplayerentertainmentll5556]

lol Molly got mad at the end. "Thanks for listening".

[@nelAjamZ]

KD IS BETTER THEN LEBRON JAMES!

[@eccentriceli3541]

Now these are the debates we need, not no needless, pointless LeBron v Jordan debates.

[@iliabertagenor8997]

how the fuck are averaging 5 assist and you have the greatest shooting backcourt in league history

[@libracool2746]

Because he is playing in a system and he doesn't really play with the ball in his hands.

[@sandwhicheater]

they have this same argument every 6 months

[@swaglikevana]

Yeahhhhhhh, SAS, you got some explaining to do