Stephen A.'s thoughts on the Deshaun Watson situation & how the NFL looks | First Take

[@jimmiemccoy6167]

If the NFL goes after Watson then they have to go after Jerry jones,Robert Kraft, and the owner of Washington because they have tarnished the shield also.I'm not saying Watson is innocent or guilty but if it is about tarnishing the shield then owners also need to be held accountable

[@pooman3138]

FACTS

[@DM-sc9rg]

Watson lawyer about to sue the nfl watch.

[@dmun5222]

So sexually assaulting 22 women is samething as buying hookers and making sexual comments huh?? Why don’t theives get same sentence as murders?? They are both criminals??? There are degrees to each actions. don’t put what owners did same as what desaun did. As far as i know no 22 women came together and accused any nfl owners for sexual assault.

[@georgejefferson5457]

There are more. The NY giants punter during the pro bowl had to be separated from his family. What punishment did that render? There's another precedent. False allegations of sexual assault to extort men of power. The NFL is vulnerable to extortion, even if guilty or not guilty. If they rush to judgement, the mostly white men will be civilly and criminally pursued. Just or unjust, it's simply CYOA time here. The League office knows this is he said vs. she said. The accusers will get money, DeSean will lose money, branding and time. How much and when is the question? And should the NFL prematurely enable false accusations on the future based on this specific situation. Massages are recieved by many many many NFL personnel. The subject brings in coaches, executives, owners, cheerleaders and players. Don't rush and waste more time and money in haste.

[@pooman3138]

@@dmun5222 keyword ACCUSED and not proven in 2 separate cases just because someone says someone has done something it makes them guilty that like me saying u killed 5 people and it gets 22 👍 so that means you are guilty right

[@culturisklounge3791]

The Houston Texans needs to be investigated they Blackmailed this man.

[@usp3p12]

I mean when he wanted to leave that organization. Then boom all these women came out the wood work, AFTER he voices his displeasure with the Texans. Then it slowed down once he wasn’t playing. I mean hey I’m not implying anything. That’s just very suspicious.

[@deesee2051]

Naw they didn’t I live in Houston if that were true he would have been indicted

[@cevinthegreat]

Stop being delusional and putting it on our franchise

[@usp3p12]

@@cevinthegreat So it just a big coincidence that 22 women are cruised this man of something he did with absolutely zero evidence that suggests he did anything to them. With all of this coming out just days after he wanted to leave y’all crappy organization? So you mean to tell me all of it is one big giant chain coincidences. That sheep in herd mentality some of y’all sports fans got is very delusional and sad as an GROWN adult.

[@Bagged_Hemi]

@@usp3p12 you don’t know anything

[@mr.lamont1420]

Let the man have his day in court. Money makes people say and do anything. Be mad if you want; just be fair.

[@deesee2051]

He’s already went to court they decided it wasn’t enough evidence to charge him

[@dw5251]

What court what are you talking about

[@jerkkkkitlb]

@@dw5251 judge judy

[@carlfrye1566]

@@deesee2051 True. The new cases may go to another Grand Jury, and all of them will go to civil court unless he settles them out of court.

[@deesee2051]

@@carlfrye1566 i live in Houston for them not to indict him in Harris and especially Brazoria County really says a lot the media never speaks on him not getting charged because it doesn’t fit their narrative

[@esvan9662]

Good job Stephen A, I agree 100%! You’re going to penalize someone in which the legal system deemed him innocent. Makes no sense. Basically if you’re accused, the NFL will suspend you & take $ from you

[@johnanthony2333]

And your thoughts on OJ being found not guilty of murder?

[@marcuse.9886]

@@johnanthony2333 he didn’t kill 22 people though…. And get away of it

[@DuckFanDane]

@@johnanthony2333 that was extremely wrong but our system is meant so that it is better that A couple guilty men walk free then innocent men in jail. I wish everybody who was guilty got taken to jail but sometimes they miss it but there is no excuse for a innocent man having to deal with the punishment as if he was guilty. Now when this messed up world we have believe all women even without proof and you’re guilty until your proven innocent in a court of law due to the public shaming

[@DM-sc9rg]

@@johnanthony2333 dude u are bringing up something a RETIRED football player did oj was not playing at the time of those deaths u cone off as a racist

[@adityag485]

They did the same with Ben Roethlisberger when they suspended him 4 games

[@gregorycampbell9386]

Man this whole situation just rubs me the wrong way.

[@hamsandwiches9347]

🤣

[@Diego-yl2ri]

Wow, Greg.. calm down!

[@StuntmanBeatz313]

Y'all are literally disregarding (Molly fasho) the fact that he was not criminally charged...

[@blackcat513358]

He is guilty of being criminally stupid by putting himself in this situation. The Hub gives you dumb ideas and this is the result. Most of us would lose our jobs if we were in this situation whether you did anything criminal or not. It's not a good look for a highly visible organization.

[@thetrilogy80]

@@blackcat513358 Perfect

[@darkairlord]

@@blackcat513358 Can't fire someone based on allegations alone, that is a lawsuit waiting to happen.

[@demond7l3]

@@darkairlord Yes you can, it happens all the time!!!!

[@kaylonthekidrs079]

Molly gets on my nerves

[@matthewrauch5811]

What about Bob Kraft? You go after deshaun, go after Kraft too

[@desmondjefferson2127]

Those rules are for the YT ownership. Plantation slaves have stuff rules, even the rich ones

[@jawells2010]

Kraft was smart and paid for a transaction. Deshaun thought he was living in a Brazzers video

[@desmondjefferson2127]

@@jawells2010 SAY IT AGAIN, so they can hear you in the back!!!!😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 You pay for discretion and for them to do the work AND GO!!!! He made STUPID rookie mistakes on this one

[@cheesetart301]

@@jawells2010 🤣

[@1YaeHustle]

@@jawells2010 😭😭😭😭😭 say he was living the fantasy

[@shaquilleking904]

Basically the NFL should punish a man regardless if he’s innocent or not because the accusations taint the NFL’s image… Makes no sense

[@shanelljones1091]

It's built into the personal confuct policy, so they can absolutely do that. The same thing applies to the average employee. If your employer deems that your conduct outside of the workplace has had a negative impact on them, then they have the right to punish you accordingly. The NFL is not the justice system and they don't have to rely on innocence or guilt.

[@reneesmith983]

What he did was still reckless and stupid. Why get "therapists" on IG when you have access to the best. Every athlete who has spoken says you have one therapist and you stick with them and you definetely don't find them on IG.

[@miguelvigoa7271]

@@shanelljones1091 and if you are good enough at football you earn the right to play in it, also baseball, basketball, boxing, etc, we watch the for sports, me personally couldn’t care less what they do on their personal time, we shouldn’t look up to none of these people or somehow hold them to a higher standard at anything, do you think I raise my kids accordingly to LeBrons opinion on anything or Tom Brady’s ??? They just playing a game and should be able to until they suck at it, then get cut or retire and bring the next one

[@shanelljones1091]

@@miguelvigoa7271 There is no industry that works that way, sports or otherwise. Whether you like it or not, a player's personal conduct reflects on the league that employs them, so they have every right to decide to distance themselves from someone if they deem their behavior problematic. Also, being good enough doesn't earn you the "right" to play. It just means that the better you are the more likely they are to overlook your flaws, but even that has it's limits.

[@ibitayofadayomi5597]

Regardless of innocence? 22 people accused him of sexual assault and mans gets paid 230 mil. That’s a terrible look.

[@christophers7160]

They tried to pressure him into settling for the money and he didn’t take the bait so the next step is destroying his image which is working because people want him to be guilty more than following the laws that already said there isn’t sufficient evidence. I wish he was later in career so he could countersue the league and not suffer financially

[@jayjya]

ah yes, the sinister cabal of 22 women.

[@jlv3x]

I wouldn't say that he is suffering financially, he did recently sign a 230 million guaranteed contract. A grand jury said that those 22 women no case!!! This is simply these women trying to shame him into giving them a settlement offer. Their lawyer continues to try and delay the court date and wants purposely schedule court appearances during the football season. It's clear that their lawyer wants to settle and not have to prove their case in court.

[@stark20ful]

If what Deshaun Watson did is wrong then baby I don’t wanna be right.

[@supastar25]

I've been backing him since it started because I believe in innocence until proven guilty...but that transcript from the deposition from 2 weeks ago proves that SOMETHING definitely happened...at least in that one encounter...and there's 22 of them.

[@stark20ful]

Women lie that’s what they do

[@kevinnegoro1118]

This is the one time I can actually respect Stephen A Smith

[@hamsandwiches9347]

He probably slept better knowing that.

[@kevinnegoro1118]

@@hamsandwiches9347 lol. Your opinion is almost as good as SAS

[@bcollins5011]

I mean this is ridiculous! The law of the land said it's not enough evidence and not just any law.. We're talking about two grand juries!!! Civil cases mean money.. Why are they still talking criminally?? Civil has zero guilt attached to it. 🤦🏿‍♂️

[@jstan4548]

EXACTLY!!!!!

[@Profess84]

Because these days it's about the court of public opinion.

[@bcollins5011]

@@Profess84 Unfortunately you're right and that's sad.

[@soda8736]

Funny how everybody sides with the judgment of the court when it's someone they like. 🤔

[@bcollins5011]

@@soda8736 Nah it's common sense but good try. Not enough evidence is just that. Funny how people just want to side with women just because. 🤦🏿‍♂️ If the courts would have indicted him i would have the same energy. You don't find it strange all these women have the same lawyer? How did that just happen? Women can't even pick the food they want but they picked the same Lawyer...

[@teddyhart2913]

So the lady couldnt just leave if she was uncomfortable? Shes crying like he physically held her down and abused her

[@MrDdub619]

If a woman flashes her chest, have you been assaulted if you feel uncomfortable?

[@teddyhart2913]

@@MrDdub619 if i was uncomfortable id leave or at the very least look away

[@BrownsNJ24]

@@teddyhart2913 plus she had another appointment with him after that!

[@dee1716]

The man have not been convicted of anything he's a phenomenal player he should get a huge contract

[@ItIsYouAreNotYour]

Cleveland. Lock down your massage parlors and hide your kids, hide your wives, and hide your husbands too because he's coming for everybody. For. Real.

[@greeksun369]

True, but a non conviction doesn't mean innocent.

[@kmyles8599]

@@greeksun369 It doesn't mean guilty either! None of these girls had evidence that led to criminal charges...and in fact the DA and grand jury declined to bring charges twice for LACK of EVIDENCE. We have to stop confusing ACCUSATIONS with the TRUTH. These are groupies looking for a payout. Period.

[@bbdj3]

@@greeksun369 but it also doesn’t mean guilty…

[@Class_Viceroy]

Trevor Bauer wasn't convicted and he was suspended for 2 years without pay. Deshaun Watson had 21 counts against him and got one of the biggest contracts in NFL history, and is in the Bahamas with his team. Explain that for us.

[@WrestlingIsReal649]

They should investigate the Houston Texans smh🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

[@MrNaturalSez]

After they get done investigating the Washington Commodores. (Better grab a Snickers!)

[@The11thOne216]

FACTS!!!!!

[@soda8736]

Why, they paid him when he refused to play for them , that's technically insorbrnation . He should be happy with the Texans.

[@jacobpatterson3289]

Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty

[@jloading_]

was never a thing

[@benkocur8375]

Eww

[@criticalthought4910]

It’s a myth. In the court of public opinion you’re guilty until proven innocent. Look how they did Torey Lanez.

[@JakeSmith-rv1hm]

The public court of opinion is entirely separate from the judicial process

[@Nittany100]

Unfortunatly, people in the “regular” workplace have either been suspended, or lost jobs, during the investigative period. No employer wants to be labelled they didnt believe the accusers, or did nothing, if the individual is found guilty, down the road.

[@marcusvaughn6997]

I think all these women realized that Deshawn was leaving Houston and he wasn't taking any of those women with him, because none of them were officially his girlfriend or wife. Once they realized the relationship was purely sexual and he was leaving, they all decided to think up stuff to try and ruin his career.

[@versewonderstrikes5353]

As a Browns fan I’m cool as the other side of the pillow with this. He’s not in jail or getting charged. Case closed. He will ultimately cut a check.

[@JimmyBlues99]

I guess you can't help yourself being from Cleveland

[@jamesbush1008]

politics at its finest... we don't care if he's a sexual predator in hiding as long as we win football games lmfao what a joke Cleveland fans and origination are pathetic

[@StuntmanBeatz313]

Basically Deshaun Watson should still be punished for being accused regardless of innocence becuz your name is attached to the NFL? How is that not just as bad

[@daundefeatedtakedaundefeat62]

He still could have had conduct detrimental. He may not have committed a crime but his conduct did not meet the league or organization standards foe employees

[@ItIsYouAreNotYour]

He isn't "innocent" there isn't enough evidence to determine there was a crime committed. Not enough evidence isn't the same as no evidence. You have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt.

[@43msd]

@@daundefeatedtakedaundefeat62 you and Steven A are wrong 😑. He violated the rules if he used force. It has already been proven that he didn’t, so why are they not being truthful on these talk shows. Also 2 of the females withdrew the force allegation when it went to the grand jury. You know what that means right. First there isn’t 22 only 3. If you are not willing to go to court your allegations mean nothing. Second only one out of 3 said she was forced. By her own admission she quit 5 minutes before she was done, because she said she didn’t feel comfortable. Actually he was the one who suggested that she stop. Apologized for making her feel uncomfortable, and paid her anyway. Then they talked afterwards. That’s all that happened. She had to massage his private area, as was told to him per team doctors. 👍🏽

[@StuntmanBeatz313]

@@daundefeatedtakedaundefeat62 understandable

[@DuckFanDane]

@@ItIsYouAreNotYour yes he is innocent because you are innocent until proven guilty. If you do not have enough evidence to assume guilt then since you are default innocent you were proven innocent

[@alphaomega7433]

To those too stupid to understand. Just because he didn’t commit a crime doesn’t mean he didn’t do anything wrong. He tarnished the reputation of the NFL simply by being involved in this type of behavior. If you call out from work all the time with no doctors note, did you commit a crime? No, but that doesn’t mean you won’t be fired because you still did something wrong. Regardless of whether or not he committed any crime he has to be punished for putting himself in a situation that sheds negative light on the NFL. If you can’t understand that then you are clearly not a mature adult. It’s that simple.

[@kmtaran78]

How could they punish him, if he's innocent. Anyone could file any civil suit. If they suspend him and he's innocent, it opens the door for any fanbase to accuse any superstar and get them suspended so that said fanbase's team does t have to face that superstar.

[@user-sh1do4sp8e]

Agreed it's a slippery slope to all the women who have these rich kids in he said she said situations. Trust there watching! Nobody's safe. Without police report DNA hospital visit how can there be grounds to win any of these cases

[@3PTBall]

@@user-sh1do4sp8e they rest on believeallwomen 2022

[@RS7evenSLDR]

Bro civil suits don’t determine guilt or innocence. There will just be settlements. And the NFL can’t determine guilt or innocence. Either way your boys contract is 100% guaranteed. He could be suspended indefinitely and still be getting paid.

[@kmtaran78]

@@RS7evenSLDR the nfl are the ones who said they were awaiting the outcome of the civil suits, besides, I never said they did, at any time, any where. There will b no criminal charges, that's been determined

[@user-sh1do4sp8e]

@@RS7evenSLDR if there were gonna Settle that period would happen by now. The lawyer chose the Real Sports platform cause he has no case. None of the women including the first women stopped the session the moment they felt uncomfortable. No police report no DNA. Any judge in the world would judge in Deshaun favor. You can't prove anything...

[@deesee2051]

So Basically if the courts don’t say a person is guilty these 3 clowns still believe he’s guilty with their logic anybody that’s accused of something they should be punished . Whenever ppl bring up the $$$ it’s hard to take them seriously

[@mrjonsey]

There are rules for every company you work for and those rules apply even when you’re not on company ground. You don’t need to be convicted of a crime to receive punishment for something. People in the military caught cheating on their spouse get disbarred.

[@scruffd0g193]

Well browns are protecting Watson at all cost so they don’t look bad.

[@thekaiser1156]

Yea just 22 women saying other wise

[@mydusty01]

@John Doe yeah because the courts are known for being easy on people of color.

[@DuckFanDane]

@@thekaiser1156 yeah because women never lie to try to get money out of an athlete 😂😂😂

[@ilikecows44]

I usually don't really like Stephen A, but I think is one of his best takes.

[@cadena141]

He is right.

[@peacelove3828]

finally i can agree with this dude

[@15SilverSurfer15]

Shout out to the Texans for ruining this man's career

[@b-rad3681]

They did their job but they didn’t do it good enough when he beat criminal charges , the Texans wanted him to be indicted criminally which would jeopardize his career altogether . I wish It could be proven that the Texans Indeed messed over this man by doing this to him when he decided to never play for them again

[@soda8736]

People who say , " these allegations came out after he asked to leave" remind of people , who when their team looses they say the game was rigged..

[@Woofreestyle]

They didn’t have enough evidence to charge him criminally twice.

[@gemesbrewer8099]

GREAT Stephen A ,Yes That's The Truth!

[@Pitt8837]

I expect doggy to take his position. But Mr. Smith, I humbly pose these questions: If “Derrick” who isn’t worth any money and has no fame did the same alleged acts would he be asked to leave, or drug through this at the expense of his family and reputation? Next, I graciously ask, how long does it take to assault 22 women? This wasn’t done overnight, so where were the complaints?? Lastly, is it not suspicious that he tells the Texans he’s leaving and all of a sudden a person who has been a modest citizen and leader of the franchise turns into an animal? Thank you for whoever took the time to read this. I’m not taking any sides, just using my freedom of expression.

[@kmtaran78]

Well if u look at the manuscripts, the head accuser, and her attorney, went to watson before it was public, and said "give us 100k and we don't talk, plus we keep the rest from talking" extortion at its finest

[@soda8736]

I'll answer your third question, we don't know these people. Doesn't mean he's guilty but I don't fall for the he such a great guy stuff anymore. And the first part of your question is conspiracy stuff,. There Is no proof the Texans were some how behind this, he contacted all these women, he showed up, and whatever happen happened.. the Texans still payed him last year even though he refused to play for them and wasn't suspended or on the exempt list. The narrative is to paint the Texan in negative light but it just doesn't add up.

[@Pitt8837]

@@soda8736 Thank you for the response. Nothing is proven, but what we do know is he is being financially drained and may get suspended. Hopefully, he takes the Chris Brown approach and counter sue for character defamation. Make them prove themselves or face penalty, only fair in my humble opinion.

[@soda8736]

@@Pitt8837 doubt he would do that , he's behavior is still considered inappropriate by some, even if not criminal. he wouldn't want more details coming out

[@Pitt8837]

@@kmtaran78 Follow the paper trail! Scratch a lie find a thief 😉

[@urbaindelva7869]

This whole situation was suspect from the beginning. I'm still waiting for the Texans organization to be investigated because if they knew about all these accusations, and they are just accusations, and did not reveal them until Deshaun wanted to leave, then they should get foots in them too. Also, I disagree with Stephen A. The NFL cannot prove that Deshaun did anything wrong. It was ruled that there was not enough evidence against him and these are CIVIL cases. He's not off the hook yet, but they can't punish him for what they don't know.

[@Short_mambaa]

It may or may not be someone directly from the Texans organization but someone with close ties to them is paying these women cause soon as he wanted out this came out …….

[@jordananthony5882]

@@Short_mambaa exactly aint nobody dumb!!

[@Court_1988]

@@Short_mambaa yeah but he also tried to get out before this came out as well

[@Short_mambaa]

@@Court_1988 no bruh they got rid of D Hopkins for no reason then didn’t even include him in trying to find there next coach …… dude hasn’t been in trouble his whole career asks to leave then this comes out

[@Court_1988]

@@Short_mambaa yeah that was jack easterby doing , rumors were he wasn’t a fan on D Hopkins bringing all his baby mamas at mini camp and things like that … jack tried to change the culture around there and it rubbed people the wrong way

[@culturisklounge3791]

He is innocent until proven quilty amd I believe he is innocent.

[@kappaalphaomega5137]

Innocent until proven guilty people need to learn the judicial system before opening there mouth

[@yungheehong5613]

Stephen A rarely speaks the truth but this time, he has

[@becomingthenext6904]

But it’s water under the bridge for craft n rothlisberg tho right

[@clocolon357]

All this didn't come up until Watson was leaving Texans

[@alfredmccoy5182]

STEPHEN A. Is right

[@lisadleo2624]

He nailed it.

[@Howlingburd19]

It’s time to kick this guy out of the NFL ffs

[@SuperRoloTomasi]

99 problems molly

[@jasonisaac9614]

Anybody who doesn’t think he did anything wrong is psychotic. He gets at least a year.

[@carlagreene5598]

These women have every right of course to speak out and have their voices heard, HOWEVER it also has to be put out there that two separate grand jury's, after hearing all the evidence against Desean Watson, declined to move forward on charges. Not to mention that these women and charges did not come forward until Watson tried to force his way out of the Texans organization... is that a coincidence?? something just doesn't add up, but prayers to all involved....

[@Carlitos_Way70]

Wow! 👏 I couldn’t have said that any better. 💯 Way to go Stephen!

[@marcpt9313]

That has to be sarcasm surely 🤣🤣..let's punish someone because he's been accused of something we have ZERO evidence he actually did 👏🏽👏🏽 🙃

[@marlafowler3543]

GO STEPHEN A.!!!! I agree with you 100%, & thank you for saying out loud what people dont want to hear.....

[@kmtaran78]

Soooo u think the nfl should punish people who are innocent? What if every civil suit gets tossed. Then wat. The guys suspended for no reason at all

[@user-sh1do4sp8e]

So Marla your now able to get a possible pay day based on your word with no evidence. You say he did it then bam he did.. An what exactly did he do that wasn't consensual.

[@adminhonor7099]

Just leave Watson alone, dudes! No criminal charge filed, period!

[@calvinrudolph4201]

Plus I don't think nobody should be punish by the NFL for off field issues

[@marcfolkman3078]

Stephan a added a good perspective to this. I still have no idea what to think about this whole thing

[@ccth22]

Whether people like it or not Jimmy Haslem didn’t spend that money just so Roger Goodell who answers to Haslem as well as the other owners can make a decision just to appease public opinion. SAS is right Goodell has to be careful, but for more than one reason.

[@hamsandwiches9347]

Creamed corn has a lot of carbs in it. It’s good though. That’s what Donny Osmond thinks

[@lucasperes11]

So you get a guy that already missed a year plus of football, and you simply suspend him lets say 10 games without knowing if he’s guilty. So what prevents teams to pay somebody to falsely accuse lamar jackson? You get a couple headlines, justice system can’t get to a veredict and the league punishs him… you either wait for the definitive answer or just let him play.

[@ItIsYouAreNotYour]

Because the fact is there is evidence, just not enough to convict. Accuse Lamar and you won't find anything, except average Madden gameplay.

[@chakivang8586]

He missed last year cause he didn’t want to play.

[@kmtaran78]

There was insufficient evidence, meaning whatever they brought to that court room, didn't cut it. Plus they tried to get watson to pay 100k prior to any of this to go away, that's called extortion, and it destroys any credibility they may have had

[@kmtaran78]

@@ItIsYouAreNotYour wats stephan a is saying is exactly that. Evidence doesn't matter, if ur names in the paper ur suspended, regardless of facts and guilt

[@youngrob2121]

Lets all make sure SAS keeps this same energy if or when he is accused of anything and espn suspends him and he whined and cries about it because he is innocent and hasny been found guilty of anything

[@TheGreatRobertCharles]

Everybody knows Stephen A is a limp wrist

[@patrickpeterson3136]

Must agree Steven A. But also Browns should negate this contract until further notice.

[@modernleader9793]

Molly is weak minded, and shouldn't be allowed to speak on situations like this. First Take needs to stop speaking on this. This man wasn't charged with anything. Does First Take or ESPN ever defend black men in these cases? Women lie all the time and yall still defending them and taking their side without proof. Smh

[@soda8736]

Trevor Baurer was found innocent too, first take wasn't defending him either, everything ain't racial..

[@shawnjeffmarsteller7504]

Rarely do I agree with Stepen A's remarks when it comes to the Browns. He is 100% correct on his point of view on this matter. The other variable is if the NFL punishes Watson before the civil suits finish it could cause an increase in the award amount (if there is one). Does this then open the NFL to a lawsuit from Watson for influencing the outcome of the civil trial? The NFL should allow the court system to work and then make a decision on a fine/suspension.

[@outlaw1234100]

Well said. You are 100% correct. Thank you

[@anthonybanz9132]

Shout out to that man Watson

[@MC-rq2wg]

sounds like you want a rich black man suspended Stephen A.???

[@blkmind4u]

Thank God Molly got edited out with her bs

[@PointBlankChiWay]

No Criminal charges

[@arealcannon4571]

That was perfect!!!

[@listo393]

Boy SAS is really singing a different tune from when they were talking about the zeke case

[@jonathonbates9490]

Always be weary and skeptical of a woman who cries but doesn't shed tears.

[@seancallahan7426]

Stephen A. "Guilty until proven innocent" Smith

[@jadebethel7556]

This is the same NFL is allowing owners like Daniel Snyder to run the Washington football team so I don’t expect much from them as far as them holding players accountable for anything

[@soda8736]

Read how many players in the last year have serious charges, dealing drugs., involuntary manslaughter ( not the Ruggs case another one). Domestic violence , endangering children ( do doughnuts in a car with Childern ) and many more, Nfl and espn been sweeping player misconduct under the rug. Don't take my word look it up..

[@justincrediblefantasy8263]

I’ll say it before and I’ll say it again, if people don’t want football players making the amount of money they do then you need to not watch the NFL like ever! Because until the day comes where not enough people watch the NFL, Elite Quarterbacks for nfl teams will make huge money.

[@scruffd0g193]

Are people forgetting that zeke was suspended 6 games for much lesser actions, I know fans want to protect Watson just because but a suspension either in 2022 or 2023 might seem inevitable

[@Thelongfeet]

Wasn’t zeke caught on camera? Remind if I’m wrong. Legitimately asking a question.

[@the3rdmorice]

@@Thelongfeet No. His suspension was for the domestic violence accusation levied against him.

[@Wop06]

But I feel like what makes that different is that, deshaun has already missed a whole year. It would be crazy to give him another, 6,8, or year when he already sat a year, on top of not being seen guilty by two different grand juries

[@scruffd0g193]

@@Wop06 has no connection at all, that was his choice. NFL can still penalize him. Who knows?

[@jerkfan123]

He had a long track history before he got punished so put things into context deshun never had been accused of anything like thus before

[@staytruealways207]

I believe Watson this sounds like a set up

[@Jasonk1979]

Stephen A, really doesn't make sense in his argument. He is saying that the league should take their own actions against Watson because he put himself in those situations, however his logic falls flat because Watson is completely denying anything remotely suspect happened. I'm not saying I believe Watson, but if the NFL can't prove he did something he shouldn't have done, they really don't have a leg to stand on in regards to what Stephen A is saying.

[@goldschool3077]

remember he works for Disney where they believe in fairy tales and la la land

[@deyontalattimore736]

Why is this a conversation to be had?? The court will be the court in this situation. If he's found guilty then HE'S GUILTY if he's not, LEAVE THE MAN ALONE. The NFL as an organization needs to let the court system handle this. We are so stuck on opinions and feelings nowadays and LESS on actual facts.

[@demond7l3]

He's guilty.

[@deyontalattimore736]

@@demond7l3 He may or may not be Ms. Cleo 👍🏽

[@anthonyrose6686]

Stop judging let him play all these women looking for a check that’s all. This is what people do to athletes look for money

[@derrickmason7457]

He wasn’t convicted of anything criminal they can feel how they want to.

[@miguelvigoa7271]

The NFL looks like a league where people play football in 🤷🏽🤷🏽🤷🏽

[@angelowalker9095]

Let’s be reminded that the courts found no wrong doing… soooo why are we talking about this

[@adambankert9795]

Because they view it as still a bad look cuz of it being a domestic violence case

[@soda8736]

Tell that to Trever Baurer , Zeek, and Big Ben. All criminally innocent all suspended

[@angelowalker9095]

@@adambankert9795 what is domestic violence??? Where or when he assault one of them??? He’s be in prison. How do you punish off of public perception

[@angelowalker9095]

@@soda8736 I don’t know the specifics so can’t comment on other cases but that’s BS. One lawyer took a case that nobody else wanted to touch. He finds out that Watson frequently gets massages and advertised other women to join him for a class action lawsuit. FOH

[@soda8736]

@@angelowalker9095 no other lawyer would take this case.. ? I doubt that.. and its not a class action lawsuit, each suit is separate..

[@angelowalker9095]

All the women of Steven As past should bond together and sue him for misconduct

[@makeit-takeit6707]

Everybody comes out of the woodwork when you're young, talented and successful. It never fails. Human beings are cannibals. Yes they are. They eat their own, and lick their fingers.

[@AD28197]

Last time I checked it was "Innocent until proven Guilty". Not "Guilty until proven Innocent ". The "Me too" movement got people f'ed up.

[@FullyRockin]

Leave that man alone he’s not guilty these women tryna get money out of him... people lie and throw dirt on yo name when you successful

[@loganrodgers9402]

So if deshauns being honest and his reputation is wrongly being RUINED he should be suspended too? Pile it on Stephen..

[@Real-cf1ps]

He was found innocent he's good

[@elizunun9509]

Weather DW4 is telling the truth or not this will forever stain his legacy when it's all said nd done.

[@nael2770]

a person can be found not guilty or a trial can be declared a mistrial or a grand jury can decide not to proceed because of technicality.. like the person was hiding drugs in his house but if the search warrant does not approve for any other searches except for a specific murder firearm. that person cannot be prosecuted for his drugs (or something like that).. point is, this does not really mean that Deshaun is not morally guilty... 21 separate women.. xrist...

[@Woofreestyle]

The victim should face the same punishment the offender would face if it’s found the victim is lying. Not saying that is this case but it would deter false accusations.

[@chrishassard806]

The real question though, is the NFL going to suspend players for accusations/rulings in Civil Court or not?

[@NastyNoble]

I'm throwing a BS flag on this. So did Robert Kraft, Jerry Jones, Dan Snyder dishonor the shield? The hypocrisy, double standard and favoritism toward owners is disgustingly undeniable!!

[@spiritualphilosophy1707]

According to the Courts in Texas who saw and heard all the evidence and threw the cases out all 22 he did nothing so what is there for him to regret. It is one thing to report the news and another to try and make news where there is none!

[@djaramillo09]

Accusers mad that they didn’t get their money. Unless you are clearly guilty of the crime than obviously Watson doesn’t deserve anything but he’s innocent. People will never accept the opposite outcome and this is a perfect example of it

[@markjones2518]

Leave deshaun Watson alone he's innocent

[@blkmind4u]

Did any of the women, the one interviewed on hbo in particular, when he kept asking for her to massage lower and she kept complying couldn't she just say no or better yet say nothing and leave??? They could all have filed a report as well.

[@driano80]

All 22 of them could have said no. It's policy for them to do such a thing and they did not. So what are we really talking about here.

[@blkmind4u]

@@driano80 that's all I'm saying. I care about women and definitely the ones in my life. The ones I know they would not put up with that. My theory is more than 22 massaged him but 22 smell a chance at a bigger bag. The others got paid extra and was cool with it.

[@thirdtake3770]

As a healthcare provider if I find something that’s uncomfortable I will not do it, regardless of what the patient wants. If they felt uncomfortable they could have said no, however I am guessing the💰 was better than saying no. These are women being allergic to accountability and not being responsible for the consequences of their actions regardless if it’s positive or negative.

[@driano80]

@@blkmind4u what about this NWO attitude WITH SAS? I mean wow!

[@mbrooks7097]

I am a BSN n have a massage therapy license. Each has an ethic clause just as Physical Therapist and most in the medical industry. when each of the women didn't go to the police it made me feel sure they tried a shake down. Oh well I hope they get nothing and paste their faces all over everything for the next odiot.

[@paulrandolph616]

2 loud mouth professional lip wrestler helping Molly to push this narrative that this man is guilty no matter what the court believe

[@tristanxjason]

Trevor Bauer would agree!

[@uwarrior]

Boy, if empty calories were a segment..

[@713anand]

Ray rice got canceled for 1 isolated event and wasn’t ever accepted back after all the efforts he put to redeem himself. Watson is on a whole nother level. I doubt he suits up again

[@ChiefMac]

If anything. Those two girls, just proved to me that Watson didn't do anything wrong. They are lying.

[@longsalad5334]

Y’all gonna say “innocent until proven guilty” which I 100% agree with, but the new updates that keep coming out add more suspicion to the fact that the “not guilty” verdict might not mean he’s innocent

[@kingcash__yt7640]

Where did you get that the 2 women last night have given different testimonies under oath every single women claimed consensual under oath and out of the 22 it’s only 3 women really

[@SnappingTurtle444]

Facts, long salad 💻

[@outlaw1234100]

I think the new updates that keep coming out prove more and more that DW is innocent

[@conormackey204]

A private company can do whatever they want. If a court finds him innocent but the league doesn’t buy it they have every right to not allow him to play. He represents the league as a player and if they feel he does not fit the image they desire then so be it. Enough acting like the nfl has to follow the ruling of a court.

[@leocromartie9589]

"Impunded the shield" RQQ

[@pauligboeli3932]

THE IRONY Deshaun Watson had zero allegations of sexual assault against him before he declared he wanted to trade from Houston then all of a sudden like a whirlwind or out of Denver there was accusation after accusation after accusation none of which has been deemed criminal... Ironically interesting 🤔

[@lawrencemack6868]

What’s so amazing to me is how the disdain is in full effect without going to court. Stephen A. loves to talk all intellectual yet he doesn’t know the definition of the words ( accused and alleged l) what is so disturbing is you so called journalists act as if you have no clue as to what ( due process) means. Molly your tone is clearly biased. You want this man to be guilty because he is due 230 million garunteed dollars. All of you need to get a life.

[@hamsandwiches9347]

You should learn about the spellcheck feature on your device.

[@dannyburch4973]

Kickin' a brother when he's down.

[@roansmith3317]

I do not condone mistreatment of women in anyway shape or form. Saying that Steven A Smith enjoys tearing down black professional athletes while he gives a white professional athletes pass. SMH

[@Mocha_ChaKalaKaKhaN]

Innocent until proven guilty

[@Shelisa4]

This comment section is so wack. Yall need to read the filings and stop taking in the media propaganda from both sides. DW is sus and in the very least needs help cause this is troubling (note I did not say criminal) behavior. SAS is right, this is taking too long...

[@IJamesCordenLoveMyWife]

The “I froze” thing everyone gets coached into using as a way to explain why their behavior doesn’t line up with that of a victim is such a joke