Stephen King's "I Know What You Need" -- Deep Dive into Manipulation Story

[@Hugh-Man0006]

Ed : i know what you need. Liz : me too i need a restraining order

[@stephenkingbookclub1054]

LOL!

[@alicenolfi2095]

Great video as always! A really creepy story that also doubles as a commentary on certain rom-coms. Like you said, some stories have characters that do what this stalker does, yet they’re treated as the heroes. Also, that Hallmark trailer killed me XD

[@michikoclark8602]

Loved the juxtaposition of the Mel Gibson footage! Also love 'Hellmark'.......

[@AbraCadaveric]

An evil boyfriend named Edward? Where have I heard that before?

[@johnkirby8939]

So basically we have evil Harry Potter. "You're a stalker, Harry!"

[@stephenkingbookclub1054]

LOL!

[@cornjobb]

for a rare, difficult to obtain book, that necronomicon sure gets around, doesn't it?

[@FullMoonOctober]

I like the variation in Todd and the Book of Pure Evil, where the evil magic book it's named after is a sentient item that WANTS to find its way into the hands of those that would use it for selfish or malicious purposes. Every episode it shows up, opens to a specific page that solves a character's problems, and then flies off like a bird as soon as it's over.

[@SingingSealRiana]

Hell yeah!

[@brianstiles1701]

The Necronomicon being hard to obtain is a myth started by cultists of the Elder Gods to entice more people to seek it out.

[@WulfRanger]

I truly love how you breathe new life into classic King.

[@DanielleSouthcott]

Necronomicon: "Hey, keep me out of this!"

[@stephenkingbookclub1054]

LOL!

[@GanarfGeorgie]

Bravo!👍

[@michaelsmyth3935]

Whilst we very much appreciated your opinion up there. We, us, they, those who have just arrived, yet have always been there, ENCOURAGE, All and any to explore to wonders compiled by the somewhat bothered. But not mad, Abdul Al' Hazrd. Being eaten alive by invisible demons in a market square is bothersome, yes?

[@LyraStitchery]

Why does Edward Hammer look like an alt-universe Stephen King?

[@stephenkingbookclub1054]

LOL, It might be because on the Midjourney prompts I kept typing: "20-year-old Stephen King with a creepy smile and green fatigue jacket"

[@onesunnyday5699]

Kinda looks like a combination of the young Stephen & Bill Skarsgard (Pennywise)

[@jesusromanpadro3853]

A Stephen King that didn't become a writer, now that will be an alternative universe horror, for those living in it.

[@razycrandomgirl]

​@@onesunnyday5699feeding ai

[@fishjones4618]

He actually resembles the builder on James May’s series Man Lab Simu.

[@Chicagocanine]

The beginning was especially amusing because I just listened to a King podcast that was talking about the Lifetime movie made of the story Big Driver. 😄

[@darktower0603]

The spine of a man's book is stonier, Louis

[@cartwrightworm1317]

My ex wife was a classic narcissist. She was loving and fun and sexy when we dated and completely changed the day after we got married. She got cold, verbally cruel, demanding and all sex ended. She took away my credit card, put me on a budget and let her family walk all over me. Her family was just as bad as she was. It took a year and a half of therapy before my therapist convinced me that I needed to leave. After I moved out, I realized that she had cheated on me for the majority of our four years together. Thankfully we never had kids and I cut off all contact.

[@stephenkingbookclub1054]

Yikes! Thank goodness for therapy!

[@13fyrefli]

@@cartwrightworm1317 Dude, I’m sorry. My first husband was the same. Except instead of cutting off sex, he demanded it. I’m still trying to put pieces of myself back together 18 years later.

[@JF-cd5hc]

Seeming lately that my current GF pulled the same bait and switch. She blames hormones tho. How the hell can I argue with that? IDK a thing about female hormones. Do they make women treat people they are with, like shit?

[@thatlittlevoice6354]

​@@JF-cd5hcthat's odd. Hormones usually indicate you're doing it right.

[@fabrisseterbrugghe8567]

I love that you used Synetic Theater Company's production of _Midsummer Night's Dream_ as their silent Shakespeare productions are brilliant. Thank you also for using _The Notebook_ as an example of utter creepiness. I hate it.

[@FrithonaHrududu02127]

Dude... The Hallmark Channel thing is pretty ingenious.

[@Comfortdoll]

I had an "Edward" as a college boyfriend. I was a little older than most of the students and was starting over as a single mom after an emotionally abusive marriage ended. In the beginning, it felt great to have a guy who wanted to cater to my every whim, especially for a "plain-jane" like me with self-esteem issues.... UNTIL I realized he was a compulsive liar. His adoration became suffocating and controlling, I literally had to lie about having an affair to get him to accept my breaking up with him. He stalked me from afar for several years. I was wary about dating anyone else for a long time but eventually met my now husband of 23 years.

[@burntblonde2925]

That’s so scary to have someone obsessed with you

[@psychopomp888]

I am glad you found a happier life for yourself because people believe your really not Abused unless you have the scars to show for it which makes all the more challenging alot of times to heal. Emotional scars take longer to Heal than any reason for a trip to the emergency room so to One Professional Phoenix to another I am Proud. An people should stop confusing Love with Obsession, Love has Respect with it Obsession does not

[@Comfortdoll]

@@psychopomp888 Well said!

[@psychopomp888]

@@Comfortdoll I let those know who have been in similar circumstances like mine, you are seen. An despite what people assume it is not easy what has happen to us. I will leave you with this although I can not claim it to be mine but I have come to realize this is why people react to me like they do , "The most dangerous person is one who walked through Hell alone ..."

[@StephenSinclair-d6n]

Love this channel. Kings work is an inspiration for some of mine..

[@racookster]

What sets this story apart is the evolution of Elizabeth's character. By the end, she realizes how shallow and easily-won she was. All Edward had to know were things like when she wanted ice cream and what kind of cigarettes she liked, and by the time he killed her hunky boyfriend, she was already poised to flip.

[@MsSharkDemon]

I think the closest thing to my own "Edward" is a guy in high school who wanted to be my boyfriend. I said yes at first but instantly regretted accepting so soon. He seemed to take it well but tended to say he wanted to be with me and liked to hug WAY past the point of comfort. Looking back, what made this more creepy was I was about 15 and he was 18. I felt at the time I had to hide it but I was so relieved to learn that he would be moving. I guess some pros of meeting him. One is learning to find my own boundaries. Another is realizing I'm not straight.

[@Loreweavver]

You should do Regulators alongside Desperation as a lead in to the multiple worlds of the Dark Tower. I'm interested in how the narrator with handle it as he slowly realizes he's like Father Callahan and walking between worlds.

[@cinema_chic]

I think this is an important thing to discuss because a lot of characters get a pass on inappropriate behavior because they're portrayed as being attractive and/or wealthy, like in Fifty Shades. Should those same behaviors be done by someone not attractive then they are seen for what they are, vile and disturbing.

[@TheBearAspirin]

I remember the 1990s film "Indecent Proposal" where an older billionaire played by the still very handsome Robert Redford offers a million dollars to spend a night with Demi Moore's married character. Even at the time I thought it would have been more realistic and challenging to her character if the billionaire was played by someone like Danny DeVito or Don Knotts.

[@GayleColson]

I have to agree. When I saw "Indecent Purposal" I remember thinking that Robert Redford's character may have overpaid .

[@GayleColson]

I meant "Proposal".

[@mac888spectral7]

Good frickin story! Read it long ago. Probably should check it out again.

[@vidmuncher]

That "ouch" killed me

[@FrithonaHrududu02127]

I always say there's a fine line between Courting a gal and calling on the dread powers of the Eldritch Gods...lifes funny like that.

[@wade]

😂😂😂

[@FrithonaHrududu02127]

@@wade using the word "Eldritch" always cheers me up

[@cooperminion825]

I'm disappointed that you didn't mention how Edward was actually the product of abuse. His abilities were abused by his parents to further themselves and gave Edward a pittance of the reward. He mentions how he tried to get them to stop only for them to basically call him an ungrateful little bastard. He killed them bc he couldn't deal with them draining him anymore

[@stephenkingbookclub1054]

That's a good point... I don't actually trust the things Edward says... but his version of his childhood is worth mentioning because many abusers are the product of abuse.

[@cooperminion825]

@@stephenkingbookclub1054 I don't trust his story 100% but I think there's a grain of truth to it. My personal theory is that he did grow up in an abusive household but the story about how his parents basically drained him is bs. I think he tried to use his powers so he could get love from his parents but they never reciprocated or acknowledged his love Abuse truly is a vicious cycle. He latched onto the MC in kindergarten probably bc she was the only one who acknowledged his presence on a rare occasion. He was said to have always been the dirty kid and that probably caused the other kids to ignore him. Hell, even if the MC just said "oh hi, Edward" in a bland voice when he approached her and her friends, it was probably more acknowledgement than the other kids gave him

[@stephenkingbookclub1054]

@@cooperminion825 I like your take on this... and back to the video, it reminds me how some characters (like Edward and the Phantom) are traumatized by being rejected by their mothers.

[@cooperminion825]

@@stephenkingbookclub1054 guess Freud was right about a few things. In terms of evil, I think everyone is born with a bad seed but love and attention usually squash it out. Neglect and abuse can sometimes cause it to grow and thrive like in Edward's case. I get the feeling that his parents never physically abused him but they basically didn't want him. They'd put on a loving parent routine in public or in front of company but behind closed doors, they wanted him out of sight out of mind. Unfortunately, this was probably commonplace in the 50s and 60s since too many young couples had shotgun weddings since it was considered a mortal sin to have a child out of wedlock. The couple never wanted the kid but they can't get rid of it (what would the neighbors say/think) so they raise the kid with no real emotion and have him keep away from them so they can pretend he doesn't exist

[@MsSharkDemon]

I guess that does make his background more tragic. But there's a phase I adopted "It's an explanation not an excuse." for situations like this.

[@TijuanaK]

A few of the guys in King's fiction tend to be super misogynistic hence the _ungrateful b***_ line and Arnie uses a similar line too.

[@CurtisGrupe]

Good evening Stephen King book club just another relaxing night at home listening to another great podcast

[@thecozyconstellation]

correcting my comment. there's a Twilight Zone (2020) (not Black Mirror) episode like this, where Topher Grace can rewind time so he "saves" a girl he immediately fell in love with and traps her in a museum and becomes her perfect lover . i guess it's more like groundhog day but yeah.

[@bleedingroze]

Why I will die on the hill of “50 First Dates is a horror movie”

[@gamingcrossroad2011]

I wont go into details but yes i have had somebody like this. Took years to run but first chance i had, i packed and was gone.

[@Carmastrong855]

I just recently found out that the man I wanted to marry is a serial love con artist. He's the best I have ever seen. Had me hook line and sinker. Luckily, he showed his cards a few times and I cut off all communication. I have good people around me.

[@stephenkingbookclub1054]

Whew! I'm glad you got out of there!

[@shogunshaggy6001]

Sorry that happened to you. Very glad to hear you got it figured out.

[@MaryAnneRosato]

"But was she so small that she really needed so little?"...

[@pamelacurl8342]

Scary story, I look forward to your videos.

[@joshuahoover6841]

Holy cow was that Alfie allen?? Good get! You really know what I need

[@pamelacurl8342]

My favorite story is 'Word Processor of the Gods'.

[@Donathon-qx8kq]

Fantastic story ❤

[@thecozyconstellation]

that's one of my faves too. and the mist.

[@wade]

I always wondered if Stephen King was annoyed with one of his sons when he wrote that story 😅

[@tyronedrane8394]

A episode of tales from the darkside

[@Kayjee17]

Yes, I really love that one, too. You don't often get a happy ending in a King story, so this one stands out.

[@RightsForZombies]

I hate the trope where magic and manipulation is used to get into a relationship and it’s played off as charming in some way. It’s always gross and creepy and just like the story says, it’s rapey. To me it’s always sinister. I’ve never understood people who actually like the Phantom. To me there’s never been any question he’s just a villain. The longstanding crush isn’t a bad thing in and of itself. Neither is being a skinny weird nerd. I like that you’re calling attention to how there’s something of a double standard about this trope in romantic comedies (and other media). Maybe I take it so seriously because my ex was abusive and lied to me for years in a really twisted way starting when I was 16 and she was 22 (she said she was 16 too and I believed her), but I think as a woman something about that manipulation has always felt like sexual assault, just like Alice says in the story.

[@Margatatials]

The phantom us ONLY seen as an actual contender for Christine's affection in ALW's POTO, in earlier versions he us always depicted as the Greek he is

[@thing_under_the_stairs]

@@Margatatials Absolutely - I think that ALW identified a little too strongly with the character of the Phantom (ugly composer obsessively in love with beautiful young soprano creates masterpiece so she will love him, etc...), and tweaked the character so he doesn't seem as dangerous or as pathetic as the book version. Hell, in most productions I've seen, until the mask comes off he's downright sexy! And the character of Raoul is written as a patronising douche, rather than the somewhat naive, and highly sensitive young man that he is in the novel. It's one of my problematic favourites - a highly toxic story, but beautifully staged and with some great music. I really need to write my ideal version, where Christine says "Screw all this!" and runs off with Meg.

[@MrUndersolo]

Interesting how Edward looks like a young Stephen King... Very interesting...

[@wade]

Hmmm 🤨

[@jenniferkoenig9814]

This is brilliant!

[@lisafaloskey5522]

Yes!!!! My ex husband only married me because I had 2 kids and he thought he could claim them at tax time- but I allowed their dad to claim them bc I didn't have a stable home but an abusive one, compliments of husband. I got out only bc I got DUI and had to go through rehab steps. While I was in rehab, husband didn't say a thing during our visit and when he left staff gave me the divorce papers he left

[@stephenkingbookclub1054]

Is it bad that I'm glad he's an "ex"? >:)

[@donnaduncan494]

Thanks for mentioning my favorite Kim Novak movie! Also, My Dad, was very bad this way, my ex husband and an ex boyfriend were too! I never did have any luck with men in my life! 😒

[@jesusromanpadro3853]

This would have being a Hallmark movie that I will watch,.but nnnoooo...

[@singinginthedark2786]

yes, i just commented on how this was my favorite short story by King

[@stephenkingbookclub1054]

Enjoy!

[@thecassandraeffectvsperilo6754]

I do have stories concerning those I've been in a relationship with... *HOWEVER the most manipulative relationship I was in was a friendship, so BUCKLE UP!!* Her actions reflected those action's of Peyton, the role Rebecca De Mornay played from the movie "The Hand That Rocks the Cradle"..my friend Ashley was one of my best friends! Her family was even in love with me! Her parents, her little brothers, they TRULY welcomed me in as if we were blood related..her family unfortunately didn't know what kind of monster she was for years..she even stole a Christmas present her FAMILY bought me, just to gaslight me by saying "You really don't love my family if you lost that present so easily" 😳 She would steal other present's *I JUST GOT* AND WATCH me go crazy turning my bedroom and car upside down looking for them..one instance we went to hang out with some people she knew but I really didn't..SHE was in a relationship with one of my closest guy friends, but no big deal, she acted as if it was just her and I going to hang out with some guys that were simply friends..well we all started playing drinking games, laughing, just hanging out and having a good time..I happen to take interest in one guy, and later in the night we kissed (probably wouldn't have if we hadn't been drinking tequila)..that was it, just a kiss..FAST FORWARD, my mother wakes me up the next morning to take a call (I was 19yrs old at the time and living at home while going to college) BECAUSE the SAME stranger keeps calling to talk to me every 5mins! She told my mother it was urgent I spoke with her immediately 😕 SO I finally take the call..I don't know who this girl is BUT she tells me she's the ex-gf of the guy I kissed...AND tells me I have a "permanent" STD! I immediately sit up in my bed and say "what are you talking about??" Now my friend ASHLEY had told me (BEFORE we all drank together that night) that he had an INSANE ex-gf, one I had NEVER met 🤨 You see where this is going, right? Ashley apparently REALLY REALLY liked the guy I kissed, EVEN THOUGH she was in a committed relationship! Long story short, she saw us kiss AND acted in revenge by calling his ex-gf AND telling her we "hooked up", THEN gave her my home phone number...I was in complete disbelief, all I could think was how did she know BECAUSE my friend Ashley NEVER crossed my mind as to being the catalyst for ALL this..YES she NEVER crossed my mind! That's some narcissistic sociopathic crap right there! FINALLY when I put everything together I was beyond horrified! She even came "to comfort me", she ended up doing that every single time it was directly all her fault! I even found out she tricked me into taking her to get an abortion 🤯 This girl was evil! I couldn't count how many times she stage managed me into disaster's! She ended up doing all these things throughout our 2½yr friendship..the last fight we had was at the end of our friendship..she proceeded to say "you're just so perfect, make-up perfect, hair perfect, perfect teeth", etc, etc, while my mouth just hung open 😳 I never spent a day of my life in competition with her! She was gorgeous too! That last fight, man, I had to experience it to even believe it! I walked away BUT NOT unscathed..it was even worse with her family, they kept trying to reach out, saying they didn't know what happened BUT WANTED TO so they could understand what could possibly ruin our friendship..and as infuriated as I was I STILL didn't tell her family what she did...I knew it would break their hearts into a million pieces..I cared more about that than proclaiming what a horrible human being she was AND how innocent I was..all I emailed her mother was "you don't know the truth about Ashley and I'm sorry I'll never see your family again, I REALLY love you guys"...I was devastated! I NEVER knew a human being could be that despicable 🥺 and 25yrs later I hear she's still exactly the same 😒

[@snazzybean]

Please break up that wall of text with paragraphs next time.

[@myragroenewegen5426]

Kind of annoied that this is yet another stalker type who seems to have started as a hard-done-by nerd that couldn't manage to say "Hello" to angel-girl unless he had a devious master plan. That exists, I'm sure, but I can't help but feel other combinations are at leasrt equally likely. A guy with more obvious social capital choosing a girl without much would essentially be setting up the dynamic of a lot of ugly ducklng chick flick movies, and, in such a scenario, she might have very few connections besides him to clue her in that he's more interested in getting and pleasing her than being a general decent human for its own sake. Similarly, it's easy for a person of either sex who entirely lacks connections and is too focused on other kinds of success to tend and grow lots of relationships arround themselve to be targeted by someone else who does all the legwork to make that all happen, in order to access something they want that that person has, and then turn spectacularly on their friend or partner once they get it. Even in situations where the dangerous friend or lover in this dynamic is a certified social outcast, I'd say this ruse works much better if they target someone who also views themselves as a misfit and could be lured into the attractive idea that misfits are all made for one another. The core fear at the base of this is also at work in more banal way in courtship. Men particularly may present an entirely difforent self and expectations of their partner when dating in order to get to marrieage with someone they expect to carry a lot of workload once marriage happens. I also think people who reach back enough when pthers reach out to them are rare enough these days that friendship may be more dangerous than love for this kind of double-dealing.

[@pamelaenriquez5281]

Holy crap I almost freaked out when it started out with The Hallmark Channel! For a moment I thought I had gone to hell.

[@stephenkingbookclub1054]

LOL!

[@sconni666]

I didn’t know Toad from American Graffiti was in a Stephen King story. Thanks!

[@wade]

I loved that American Graffiti character! 😅

[@sconni666]

@@wade I had a boss that looked just like him. He was funny 😄

[@FrithonaHrududu02127]

I just read Shelly Duvall(Wendy Torrance) has died. Im weirdly bummed

[@13fyrefli]

I dated a guy once that tried so hard to accommodate my every whim, hung on my every word, was basically too nice. It was creepy.

[@stephenkingbookclub1054]

I'm embarrassed to say, that's how I was at age 16, LOL!

[@13fyrefli]

@@stephenkingbookclub1054 Yeah, but that’s excusable. This guy was 30! Ugh.

[@Lizardsbreathnails]

Because nice is creepy…

[@catlover2223]

@@Lizardsbreathnails No, genuinely nice is wonderful. Overly nice indicates a mask. This is how people fall for abusers- they only see the “nice” mask, then they’re stuck by the time it slips and the true villain comes out. Genuinely nice people don’t have to try to be nice; it’s just part of their character. And that niceness is extended to everyone around them. Fake/over-niceness is usually only extended to either objects of desire or those in positions of power that the fake nice person wants to benefit from. It doesn’t reflect genuine feeling- it’s a mask used by the fake nice person to get what they want, and it can just as easily be dropped the minute they get what they want. That’s what most people mean when they say someone is “overly nice”: not that the person is actually super kind, so they are turned off, but that the kindness seems overwhelming and forced and therefore fake.

[@stephenkingbookclub1054]

@@13fyrefli LOL

[@primotechsupportstories]

Now I need a hallmark movie, king style

[@ohnaka_vids4880]

What is your opinion on the green goblin truck?

[@alicenolfi2095]

Car goals XD

[@LyraStitchery]

Tabitha King...are you okay? Comment if you need help 😜😆

[@ImprobableJoe]

I had an ex who lied to me about nearly everything the whole time we were dating. Eventually, we broke up and she cleaned out my bank account and stole nearly everything I owned... and then acted like SHE was the actual victim. She never had a job and paid for nothing in our shared apartment, and was using my money to take her ex-boyfriend out on dates.

[@thing_under_the_stairs]

I had an ex-boyfriend who did most of the same stuff while we were together... and then I stumbled on a *massive* stash of CP that he hadn't even bothered to try and hide while looking for something entirely unrelated on his computer. (Which he allowed me full access to, which is really weird, in hindsight!) I was able to hold that over his head to finally force him out of my apartment and life, and called in an anonymous tip about him once he was gone, since he had me genuinely worried about my safety. I've rarely been more relieved than when I heard that he was finally busted! My mind is still scarred, 20-some yrs later, over some of the stuff I found. You can't unsee some things, but I REALLY wish I could.

[@htw893]

My parents are Edward Hamners. I'm not joking. I won't go into details, but it made for a miserable childhood. And when they finally found out about each other and split up after exposing each others' friends and families to all of the lies, they remarried other Edward Hamners. There is not shortage of psychopaths in this world. And yes, I have been called by more than one of them something along the lines of "you ungrateful b@tch." It must be the calling card. Anyway, it's all good. I got away.

[@FreejackVesa]

This would definitely make me watch Hellmark, I mean Hallmark movies. A horror movie played as a benign Hallmark channel style movie - I can't believe that's never been done before, at least to my knowledge. I envision a saccharine banal romantic family comedy with one character being creepy and everyone just acts like they normally do in such movies

[@stephenkingbookclub1054]

That could be a wonderfully sinister twist on the genre... The first third is just a normal Hallmark movie... and then that one character gets creepier and creepier!

[@Chicagocanine]

p.s. Still a better love story than Twilight.

[@So-Be-It_890]

Uyuh... Ya can't get there from here...Uyuh

[@khher1979]

Had a girlfriend in college tell me she had cancer...knowing full well that my mother had recently died of cancer. She didn't, it was just a way to keep me

[@stephenkingbookclub1054]

Ugh, that was awful of her!

[@fishjones4618]

Slightly off topic. I got my first Kingo reading the You Like It Darker story Danny Coughlin’s Bad Dream. 😊

[@stephenkingbookclub1054]

Awesome!!!

[@angrytheclown801]

Why can't these relationships using the dark arts and manipulation be because he's devouring her from the inside to live? You know, like a real 1960's relationship! Jokes aside, I kinda hope if my exes read this story they kind of see me as the Anti-Edward. I don't pretend I haven't used trickery and deception, I've always loved stage magic, but I've never manipulated and I tended to use trickery and deception for amusement. I would rather make my partners laugh and never know what I have up my sleeve next. Someone like Edward Cull....I mean Hammer in real life and fiction are people I just don't respect. Stage magic vs Dark Magic.

[@melissacross5525]

"That's when he secretly clipped a lock of her hair-er WHAT?"😂😂😂😂😂😂 And regarding the question at the end.....I'm still trapped, but I have a plan. Stay tuned.

[@agentofentertainment1361]

You sure this isn’t a Lifetime movie?

[@stephenkingbookclub1054]

LOL, King's BIG DRIVER was made into a LifeTime movie, so who knows?

[@anujmishra5024]

Greetings sir! I really learn alot from your book reviews. Btw, I am an aspiring author, and I have written a book. If by any means, I could send it to you and get your feedback? This will mean a lot to me sir!

[@SingingSealRiana]

... Lists of movies where stalking is framed as socially acceptable.... This is why I can't watch romance!!! It is creepy as hell stuff that gets excused, toxic, pushy invasive stuff and I am disgusted at the notion I should find that cute

[@greatpower6063]

Yeah but in those romances, the guy doesn't manipulate the woman through dark magic to want to sleep with him after using magic to kill her boyfriend. Also keeping tabs on someone in a fantasy book usually stops just shy of where the fantasy part goes from romantic power- fantasy to creepy reddit post. The guy is a friend of the main character, loves her from afar but Doesn't interfere in her life just kinda hopelessly wants to be with her. Still creepy and weird but not possessive or controlling; but since the object of most of those romance novels is a power fantasy where a woman is the common salt but still ultimately desirable to a particularly patient or loyal man....this makes sense.

[@khher1979]

Isn't this the framework of You? 😂

[@Donathon-qx8kq]

Hey Constant Presenter.... it's a good video... but... you spent more time covering other stories than the one that you were presenting....i love your channel but I would have liked more focus on the story..... Peace

[@Squirreltasticqueen]

Damn i mean i knew stephen was awful with cultural appropriation but trying to paint voodoo as evil is so cliche. Can creatives try to not demonize voodoo for 3 seconds please.

[@mac888spectral7]

You know this was written 40-something years ago, right?

[@Iron-Bridge]

Not demonizing voodoo for 30 minutes now and counting. You happy now 😁?