Stephen Meyer and Ben Shapiro Talk Intelligent Design

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@MichaelMcDonald-lu3et Ай бұрын

Love me some Meyer

@poliincredible770 Ай бұрын

We admire Stephen Meyer! God bless!!!

@timhowell6929 Ай бұрын

Great conversation!

@danhue9329 14 күн бұрын

Luv to see Dr. Meyer debate Richard Dawkins. It's quite amusing when Dawkins gets flustered. See the 2008 docu video "Expelled, No Intelligence Allowed" by Ben Stein. When backed into a corner by Stein in an interview, the ridiculous escape hatches that Dawkins used to try and wiggle his way out of the unbreakable Cell Theory.

@johnglad5 Ай бұрын

Blessings

@yesbrth Ай бұрын

9:38 "... is the universe finite or is there a beginning?..." Great question! And... I disagree with the answer: "both science and religion are now telling us the same thing: that the universe had a beginning". Why? 1. More and more scientists are open to the INFINITE nature (in time and space) of the universe. 2. The Hebrew Bible (or Sumerian texts) speak about the beginning ON EARTH, not the entire universe.

@yesbrth Ай бұрын

Years ago, I was reading "Intelligent Design - Message from the Designers" by Rael [neither random evolution nor supernatural god, but ID from Extraterrestrials]... Makes sense.

@refuse2bdcvd324 Ай бұрын

Intelligent design is historical. Chuckles Darwin is hysterical.

@stevepierce6467 Ай бұрын

ID is folklore, Evolution is fact.

@GreatBehoover Ай бұрын

Evolution CLAIMS to be historical...but ends up hysterical after reading the data! DNA CODE has easily disproven evolution at this point. Even Darwin's finches were mistaken for evolution! Preprogrammed EPIGENETIC CODE... that is OBVIOUSLY DESIGNED... was already in place BEFORE the environmental pressures. Feel free to share with us the MECHANISM for developing the MOST SOPHISTICATED and COMPLEX and VOLUMINOUS CODE ever assembled! The facts don't care if you hate God. Still designed by a supergenius designer coder! Go ahead... I'll wait...😂😂😂 Naturalism = MYTHOLOGY

@therick363 Ай бұрын

It’s a fact evolution happens.

@danhue9329 14 күн бұрын

Here's my conversation with ChatGPT regarding the origin of first cell. Me: How did the first cell form for the beginning of life here on earth? GPT: Ah, the grand mystery of life's origins! The journey of the first cell likely began around 3.5 to 4 billion years ago in a primordial soup of conditions quite different from today. Theories suggest that life started when simple organic molecules, perhaps fueled by volcanic activity and lightning, began to form more complex compounds. These molecules, in an aqueous environment, could have undergone chemical reactions to form simple precursors to life, like RNA. The formation of membrane-like structures that could encapsulate these molecules might have led to proto-cells. These primitive cells eventually acquired the ability to self-replicate and metabolize, leading to the earliest life forms. It's a bit like baking, with just the right conditions and ingredients sparking the magic of life. Fascinating, isn't it? Me: But doesn't that violate the tenets of Cell Theory? "All cells arise only from pre-existing cells," as set forth by Rudolh Virchow, a German physician M.D. back in 1855. GPT: You're right to point out Virchow's Cell Theory. It's like an evolutionary chicken-and-egg scenario. But when it comes to the origins of life, we're diving into a pre-cellular world where those rules are more of a modern development. The theory of abiogenesis tackles this riddle. It posits that life arose naturally from non-living matter through a gradual process of chemical evolution. The first "cells" were likely very primitive and not comparable to modern cells. Once these proto-cells emerged and began replicating, the principles of Cell Theory took hold. It's like Virchow's theory marks chapter two, while abiogenesis covers chapter one. Kinda wild to think about, right? All of life starting from these tiny, simple beginnings. Mind-blowing! Me: But no chemists/biologists were able to creat a cell from scratch. Further bolstering Virchow's Cell Theory. GPT: Fair point. Creating a fully functional cell from scratch is still out of reach for modern science. This does give weight to Virchow's idea that cells arise from pre-existing cells. However, abiogenesis is about the transition from non-living chemistry to biology, and that happened under conditions and timescales we can't replicate yet. Scientists have made strides in understanding life's building blocks and creating protocells in labs. While it's not the same as creating a true living cell, it's a step toward understanding how life might have started. So, while Virchow's theory stands strong in biology today, the origins of the first cells remain one of the fascinating frontiers of science. Who knows what we might discover next? Me: One of the tenets of scientific research is the imperical data via scientific observation. No scientists has ever observed abiogenesis and therefore no scientific paper has ever been published showcasing or let alone proving the existence of abiogenesis. Do you therefore still hold fast to the theory of abiogensis? GPT: You make a good point. Direct observation and empirical evidence are foundational to scientific inquiry. Abiogenesis remains a hypothesis precisely because we've yet to recreate or observe the exact process in controlled conditions. Holding fast to a theory doesn't mean it's beyond questioning; it's about weighing the evidence and continuing to explore. The lack of direct observation is a gap, but it's not an outright dismissal. Instead, it prompts more research and curiosity. Science thrives on such mysteries-it keeps pushing the boundaries. In essence, abiogenesis is a plausible explanation for life's origins, given what we know. But like all scientific theories, it's subject to revision as new data comes in. What are your thoughts? Intriguing, isn't it?

@stevepierce6467 Ай бұрын

Just ask me about "intelligent design:" astigmatism, near-sighted, non-parallel vision, sinus drainage, hearing loss, hiatal hernia, ulcer, osteoarthritis, swollen prostate.....!

@medicalmisinformation Ай бұрын

Christ-despising Ben Shapiro? Oh, brother. 🤮

@MichaelMcDonald-lu3et Ай бұрын

So true

@MichaelMcDonald-lu3et Ай бұрын

No one on the Christian side of the ledger wants ti admit how comical tye jews think Jesus is but we Christians act like everything is kumbaya. We are so stupid

@firecloud77 Ай бұрын

We can't let perfect be the enemy of progress.

@Vernon-Chitlen Ай бұрын

Shapiro was totally suckered by fauci et al.

@Vernon-Chitlen Ай бұрын

Ask Ben if it's reasonable to believe the elements carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, hydrogen and phosphorus, out of 98 elements became arranged into dna.1 gram having the equivalent information storage capacity of 88 million grams of 1 terabyte hard disk drives, a 4 letter code compared to the zero's and one's, using 100 million times less energy than the computers scientists are using to examine DNA with. Including the coded instructions for the replication of every individual organism that has ever existed. Including the formation, in their sequences and order. Through all the transitions and phases, from conception to birth to adulthood, the 200 different types of the 30 trillion cells in his body. Tell him that nobody can make carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, hydrogen, sulfur and phosphorus, the 6 elements that comprise 98% of what living things are made of form a single gene or protein. And the simplest cell known requires a minimum of 473 genes coding for the replication of it's 42 million proteins. Which are made of 16.8 billion of only 20 particular amino acids out of 500+ kinds. 100% in their left hand forms, except for glycine, sequenced as specifically as 20 amino acid letters spelling protein words averaging 400 amino acids each in thousands of different types of proteins. His body has over 100,000 different types. Psalm 139:14 I will praise You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made; marvelous are Your works and that my soul knows very well. Ben must not known what that actually meant?

@globalislamicreminders Ай бұрын

Finally a strong push back against the theory of evolution.

@therick363 Ай бұрын

Do you and others push back against the theory of plate tectonics or gravity?

@Drifter4ever Ай бұрын

@@therick363you mistaken observations with explanations. ID doesn't deny evolution but the explanation/mechanism. Indeed there's no consensus on gravity. It's there but exactly how it works is still open for debate.

@robertbeniston Ай бұрын

Religion [theism] and atheism are the same. That is, they are world views. Theism involves the belief in a spirit world while Atheism confines its belief to this material universe alone. But they both have beliefs about the origin of this universe and what lies after death and morality and how we got here. As such they are the same. The concept that there is a difference, that is, religion is a faith, but secularism is not, is false reasoning. Science, the study of this universe is limited to this universe and has nothing to do with another matter or substance that may or may not exist. So, the argument that science replaces religion has no foundation in logic.

@MrMonikura Ай бұрын

Big bang theory is only man's word vs God's Word 7-day creation, both explaining the vastness of space multi-universe. If you believe man's word, then you are tricked for interpreting distances of stars and universe as measurement of time. For such distances using light years as measurements mind blowing impossible never-ending numbers. In contrast the Bible states: God created Heavens (meaning stary host, everything surrounding Earth) in accordance with God's 7-day cycle of Creation. Here my point: let say we have a 100-meter football field, and every 10 meter we light up a candle stick indicating distance and time determine its age. We're using remote toy car symbolising speed of light, calculating our distance and time from every candle stick point on the football field. Obviously the further away you go to that candle, the greater distance and time is calculated. If you see from God's eyes: He created that football field one day. Just like the heavens above from one star to another, one universe to another, one galaxy to another all created in within the 7 days… these distances reveal our limitation and proves the Bible description God’s Wonderous Power and Glory in Creation.

@GreatBehoover Ай бұрын

Meyer is a stinking genius! I could have saved myself 10 years of research if I had started with his work. I had assumed when I started that he would be a biased Christian (yes I am a Christian). But...NOPE! He wasn't. I literally studied evolutionary paper after paper before I began to see a common thread...NO ACTUAL EVIDENCE.... Literally ALL ASSUMED BY EVOLUTIONISTS!😂😂😂 I was in shock...and angered that I had.been duped by naturalism. Just think about the OBVIOUS PEOPLE! If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck... what on earth would make any rational person BELIEVE it was... at one time... NOT a duck?!🙄🙄🙄 Think long and hard about why something that gives the appearance of being designed would EVER be ASSUMED not to be...without any actual proof? How insane to assume by faith....the improbable...the impossible! Now with DNA CODE...it's game over for evolution. It DOES NOT MATCH evolution. Impossible.

@therick363 Ай бұрын

Please tell me what a scientific theory is….