STEPNEY the BLUEBELL ENGINE (RWS vs T&F) (Spot the Differences)

[@jabber1990]

even as a kid I thought Percy and Douglas being together for that scene made no sense....it makes sense now!

[@Mattrino101]

the mythology gag

[@dogythomasfangod6136]

I love it

[@rustyduncan3664]

I recently visited the Bluebell Railway and Stepney and it was beautiful it is truly astonishing how all these engines are so accurate

[@terencewilliammckenna6121]

For Sodor's "Bluebell railway", it's really just a branch line with a nickname for having fields of bluebells

[@primrosevale1995]

Fun fact: Adams and Cromford do not have names in real life, just their numbers, LSWR 448 and BR 58850 respectively. In a way, Awdry basically created OCs out of two real engines by giving them fan-made names! Edit: Yes, their _TRS_ names are based off their origins, but I was referring to how the engines themselves aren't named like Stepney or Bluebell.

[@wellsworthflyer2924]

So, I'm not sure where Cromford comes from, but Awdry got the name "Adam's" from the LSWR class 415 Radial Tank's designer, WIlliam Adams. It's possible that Cromford's name has a similar origin, but I don't know. You'll have to look that up.

[@russellgxy2905]

@@wellsworthflyer2924 Cromford is actually named for his last place of work on the Other Railway. This was the Cromford & High Peak Railway, and he was the last engine of his class to work up there Interestingly, both he and Stepney started life as commuter engines, but finished up life working with trucks

[@MJ-eg4pl]

This gives me the image of Awdrey fangirling over Adams and Cromford and being all exited at them being in his next book.

[@the4tierbridge]

@@wellsworthflyer2924 Adams Radial Tank?

[@wellsworthflyer2924]

@@the4tierbridge Adams radial tank is what they became known as, but they were, officially, classified with the number 415. All models you buy from either Hornby or Oxford Rail come with this information on the box. Alternatively, because some models are just out of people's price ranges doing a quick google search will tell you the same thing. www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=lswr+class+415

[@josephmarrison4606]

I have been to The Real Bluebell Railway, and seen Stepney, Adams, Cromford and Captain Baxter in real life too. Wish the crew had had the budget to adapt them into Season 4. I think budget was the main reason as to why Stepney’s backstory was changed for TV.

[@supermariof0521]

Interesting.

[@russellgxy2905]

I actually think it might've been a crew decision. I don't remember all the details but there seems to have been some kind of rule about using Real-Life engines in the show. City of Truro didn't speak and Flying Scotsman (pre-2016 of course) only had his tenders shown. So I think considering Stepney's tied to a whole railway, they kinda wanted to avoid that Also Allcroft apparently tried suing them over Stepney? Not sure how true that is but I doubt it went far

[@samuelfarris1949]

It is true that the pacing of the original book feels rather lagging in the first half, taking a little much caution with introducing a new concept into the Railway Series, picking up again in the second half as it reverted to the more usual atmosphere with Stepney just happening to be involved. It might have worked better as an overall book if the first story was set around Terrier locomotives like Stepney working on one of the little-explored parts of Sodor, and being introduced to Stepney through members of his old family, introducing us in the classic Railway Series style to the story of the Brighton Terrier locomotives and the preservation of the Bluebell Railway. Regards, Samuel Farris.

[@vincentmorris8431]

Mountain Engines is the 19th book of the Railway Series, and was first published in 1964. It was written by the series creator Wilbert Awdry, and illustrated by Mr. & Mrs. Peter Edwards. Over 57 years later, and NONE of the books four short stories were adapted into episodes of Thomas and Friends. And with no adaptations, we can't spot the differences. (Wah-wahwah-wahwahh)

[@the4tierbridge]

@Joshua W56 That doesn't save anything.

[@the4tierbridge]

@Joshua W56 But, I am right. The time in which such episodes could be made, is over. The show, is over. We can’t change that. Only the company that owns the franchise can. Also, how was that statement in anyway rude? And why should a listen to a rando who is stalking and harassing me on KZbin over a fucking question.

[@the4tierbridge]

@Joshua W56 Why should I stop saying that?

[@sirwelcome]

@@terencewilliammckenna6121 Why are you asking that?

[@megamike15]

atlest this was explained. they did not want to make models and a set for chracters that are only in one book. they did get toys though.

[@spiffwhiff6293]

reason the driver didn't see the ball coming is that the signal happened to drop just as the cricketers bowled and they had to get moving hence the driver drawing his attention to the train instead. loved that little ytp edit at the end btw

[@terencewilliammckenna6121]

For Gordon leaving the station on tv, he must've had to go onto a turntable first to turn around and then collect the train

[@dannypalin9583]

Honestly, Rusty to the Rescue may not have been a realistic episode, but it was ten times more interesting than the source material. Allcroft and Mitton probably realised that kids wouldn't be paying attention to an episode where Percy and Douglas just stand around and talk.

[@mariobabbo3497]

I wish Stepney returned to the television series

[@ciarangleeson2880]

Rusty To The Rescue is the reason that Rusty is my favourite diesel and narrow gauge engine.

[@Regibump37]

I just love the idea that the driver in *Engine stops Play* just loved to mess with people in the TV show. He watches the ball fly into his truck then drives off without telling anyone then proceeds to, when he's caught, park his engine on the line just to watch a game of cricket.

[@jgoody62]

Captain Baxter was used in Muppets Most Wanted as the engine to take the Muppets around the world.

[@permvw]

What else, can we say than the usual sterling effort and the ending scenes were a great touch

[@jamesleopard8518]

10:59 What in the world!!!!! There is a nail on the Thomas and Friends double O gauge train table!!!!!

[@terencewilliammckenna6121]

They should give Awdry slight credit for Rusty to the rescue and Thomas and Stepney, as they have evidences of his plots.

[@EssexAggiegrad2011]

2:44 That imagine has always stuck with me

[@billyjudd3326]

Here's a difference you missed while comparing the differences between Stepney's Special (RWS) and Thomas and Stepney. In Stepney's Special (RWS): After Thomas passed Stepney and Duck and the alarm went off, Duck had only one line of dialogue "Hello! I wonder what’s up". But in Thomas and Stepney (TVS): Duck didn't say anything at all. Even when the alarm went off he didn't say "Hello! I wonder what’s up".

[@LegendaryCaptain]

Duck in the classic series has a weird habit of having side roles in episodes but not speaking at all: thomas and stepney, the runaway, thomas and the missing Christmas tree, spotless record, put upon percy, thomas and the special letter and snow engine heck he doesn't have a single line of dialogue in season 7 then he disappeared as we all know besides randomly appearing in the navigation song and season 12 then truly returning in season 17 then the show eventually ended Duck has had a weird history

[@Shakes-Off-Fear]

11:51 the way Willie Rushton says “Bother your hat!” always makes me laugh

[@funnyclown2514]

I’m still nostalgic for Rusty To The Rescue of course it’s not a good episode but I love the scrapyard sets and George Carlin and Michael Angelis narrations were both awesome.

[@UnitedWars]

What’s wrong with the episode?

[@davidantoniocamposbarros7528]

@@UnitedWars probably cuz,idk, *it doesn't make any sense at all*

[@UnitedWars]

@@davidantoniocamposbarros7528 I attempted to make a theory around it,it’s stupid but it seems at least a a little plausible and idc what anyone else says I like the episode at least it wasn’t boring

[@vincentmorris8431]

The exchange at Crovan's Gate (the only middle stop for the Express in the book) was changed from Cronk which is the most 'halfway' point on Sodor's mainline.

[@thesodorengines]

13:25 I just assume he's off to be turned around via turntable

[@S0LARL1GHT]

this is definitely the finest cocoa 10/10

[@aaronfreeman3601]

WHAT IF Stepney didn’t like Bluebells…? 14:26

[@thomasegcouplesandships1956]

Awesome! I love this book! Can't wait to see more!

[@NewController01]

It's worth mentioning, that the only times Stepney actually went off Bluebell metals prior to the book, was the few occasions the Bluebell engines did rail-tours on BR metals via the Ardingly Branch...until the branch closed in 1963.

[@mcbenman1793]

3:53 maybe douglas and percy are discussing the cold damp sidings as rusty comes over

[@sdmedia1323]

The Bluebell Railway in the TVS is probably just a nickname, since I believe in The Unlucky Tug’s map that this is the branchline to Norramby.

[@ToastTheThe]

Unlucky Tug's map isn't canon but fair enough if you like it

[@bigbigarchive]

13:25 Gordon was probably looking for a turntable so he could back down onto the Coaches

[@Gamebuilder2000]

I wonder why people are confused about why some engines don't have faces. Yet don't care when it applies to other vehichles like Coaches, Cranes, trucks, boats, Cars etc.

[@davidantoniocamposbarros7528]

I mean there's still some fans that questions that,but choo choos are the main focus so

[@ericfasold805]

4:34 I'm getting strong ET vibes here.

[@mariobest93]

13:27 he's probably just going to the turntable.

[@williampulfer-melville8536]

Also I know this Caroline has a slight difference from her rally series come apart in the TV series and that is the position of where her spare tire is as in the Railway series her spare tire is placed on the right side of her bonnet while in the TV series her spare tire is on the back of her boot door

[@mariobabbo3497]

David Mitton wrote and direct the episode Rusty To The Rescue about Rusty saving Stepney and it is the only original story written by Mitton and Britt Allcroft in series 4.

[@connorflaherty175]

It should be noted that the class 40 diesel in bowled out sports a inauthentic livery and fictional number in the original story, instead of a more accurate livery and actual number belonging to a class 40, d261 (which I refer to him as).

[@dysr]

Fictional numbers can sometimes be a clever nod in the railway series. The Caledonian twins, Bear, and D199 all had numbers that came directly after the numbering system of the real engines.

[@connorflaherty175]

@@dysr d261 is an exception because there was no diesel on British rail that ever actually carried the number d4711.

[@terencewilliammckenna6121]

D199 may also be a reserve of 911

[@sirwelcome]

@@terencewilliammckenna6121 Um what?

[@ciarangleeson2880]

The American equivalent of 999.

[@NitroIndigo]

I didn't expect an ending joke.

[@Delta4280]

6:25 You forgot to mention that Thomas has two tail lamps on, since Annie and Clarabel are push-pulls in the RWS

[@lukegreen5341]

0:01 I've Might Go And Buy The Thomas And Friends Railway Series Book Stepney The Bluebell Engine From The Bluebell Railway In East Sussex This Year. Wish Me Luck. Thanks Mate. X

[@heathertiplady]

As far the indignation meeting in "Bowled out" is concerned, I'm inclined to believe that Stepney was elsewhere at the time.

[@transgaty2763]

Ok now that I've seen Bluebells of England, I'm confused WHY There isn't a Episode with Percy and Douglas as the Main characters.

[@rayvenkman2087]

It’s weird that we’ve never gotten a Percy, Donald and Douglas episode given Percy’s role in the Deputation.

[@ciarangleeson2880]

Yeah, the closest thing we got to that was Percy And The Haunted Mine.

[@pk_arcfire]

Tv series sadly never got to adapted "Mountain Engines" & "Very Old Engines" :(

[@jalyntate7965]

Can you do the Small Railway Engines next, which three of the four stories were finally adapted?

[@killdozer7792]

The next one will be Main Line Engines. Small Railway Engines will be after that.

[@jalyntate7965]

@@killdozer7792 Oh, cool.

[@terencewilliammckenna6121]

Actually, for bluebells of England, it and stepney's special are both adapted together as Rusty to the rescue and Thomas and stepney

[@zack6283]

Good job

[@BiggCityB0i5]

The cocoa is very fine today.

[@bazbanter9329]

5:05 That Columbo part tho 😂😂😂

[@southsidediy]

I do wonder why they opted not to make use of the Ffarquar Shed set. I do seem to remember it being redressed in season 3.

[@Boypogikami132]

"come along! come along!" XD

[@terencewilliammckenna6121]

Real event for bluebells of England, mix

[@TankEngine75]

The first Standard Gauge Heritage Railway is The Middleton Railway, not The Bluebell, The Bluebell planned it earlier but the Middleton opened two months (June 1960) before the Bluebell Railway opened in August 1960

[@railwaysparrow]

Rusty to the reuse is one of my least favourite episodes due to how it butchers the book story so badly. Half of Season 4 is a master piece with the narrow gauge engines and the other half feels unfinished.

[@Thebreakingbadthomasfan23]

Oh yes Rusty to the reuse my favorite season 4 episode No offense dude but that episode has some epic visuals

[@railwaysparrow]

@@Thebreakingbadthomasfan23 Oh I agree, it does look stunning, personally though I can't look past the story.

[@the4tierbridge]

@@railwaysparrow I mean, would you rather have an episode about two people talking to each other?

[@railwaysparrow]

@@the4tierbridge Honestly? Yeah. Its due to Brit Alcroft thinking she came up with Stepney after that episode which lead her to try sue the bluebell railway.

[@UnitedWars]

@@railwaysparrow the first two parts in the book were boring to meat least the episodes were entertaining

[@darkknight5541]

5:07 Because the original rule was that engines would only have faces on Sodor, hence why there's a picture of Stepney in the book where he doesn't have a face. This would later be broken by book 35 and the TV Series, probably because they realized it'd be weird to have Thomas interact with engines that are faceless.

[@TankEngine75]

Actually it's because it's an advertisement for the Bluebell Railway

[@ciarangleeson2880]

Well, I just think that it would be MUCH less confusing if the engines were just ALWAYS portrayed with faces, no matter WHAT!

[@beggsysbits]

i love the old rws

[@terencewilliammckenna6121]

What was the real-life event of Bluebells of England?

[@GeneralLeeStudiosBrian]

maybe instead of ending the series you can ask if someone has a copy of Christopher Awdry's book and see if they would loan it to you to finish off the stories :)

[@the4tierbridge]

He has the Chris Awdry books dummy.

[@Toysonicandfriends2]

The diesel number was change from d4711 to d261

[@MelindaFN]

actully 3 were adapted

[@terencewilliammckenna6121]

So Rusty to the rescue is based on how Stepney was preserved in 1960 by the bluebell line, right?

[@darkknight5541]

In a loose sense, yes.

[@gavintheredtrain6692]

Holy bluebells Batman

[@javielalvarez5459]

Cricket is almost similar to Baseball,only it’s an English Version of it!

[@ToastTheThe]

it basically is baseball, it's just we americans renamed it to baseball and not cricket...for some reason

[@clone151]

0:57 what song is this supposed to be?

[@sarahquinn6849]

Stepney’s Driver wouldn’t necessarily see the ball heading to his train as even in the tv show they were starting off because the signal had changed so he was probably distracted

[@jeremiahsisaias8677]

Percy doesn't speak and isn't mentioned in Rusty To The Rescue when I was rewatching it some weeks ago.

[@NoahsTrainspotting]

Who dislike this is sick

[@JoshProductions07]

It's my birthday today

[@Greenfox8892]

Happy Birthday!

[@datrollface567]

Happy birthday!

[@Lm-gj1wx]

Stepney is in real life

[@artielaput5536]

Man its been a while you haven't post

[@ineedbootlacestobeready1576]

Well it usually takes a month for one rws vs TVs video to be made

[@chavopatyfanstudios2005]

5:09 that Will be confused children

[@terencewilliammckenna6121]

May you please mention the “stepney’s special” title in a sentence, please?

[@mikewellsworth5477]

pog

[@Fanofmurdoch9702]

Yes

[@thelmsjestr3]

This is my least favourite book of The Railway Series

[@ciarangleeson2880]

WHAT?!?! WHY?!

[@Zacman1123]

I never liked how Donald and Douglas were painted blue in the Railway Series.

[@ciarangleeson2880]

I never really minded, but I see where you’re coming from. Whenever I saw the twins separately, when I was younger, I kept thinking that they were Edward.

[@samuelfarris1949]

Apparently the Reverend Awdry stated that he did not want to have engines outside of Sodor to be shown with faces as he felt it would add a sense of charm to his primary setting that distinguished it from its juxtaposition with real-life geography; his rule was that unless it was required for conservation scenes or a juxtaposition moment (namely the second and fourth illustrations in 'Bluebells of England'), engines were not shown with faces on the mainland. If one thinks that's passive discrimination, then of course you may note that Awdry never openly determines Bluebell and Promise to be female, which likely indicates that he was uncertain at the back of his mind that girls would be interested in steam engines in the same way boys were, and shied away from introducing female steam engine characters in his stories thus. Regards, Samuel Farris.

[@TankEngine75]

Actually it's because it's an advertisement for the Bluebell Railway, Wilbert Awdry didn't want kids to be confused on why the Bluebell Engines don't have faces

[@josedomingogonzalezquinter5386]

😁I bet you can't spot the differences between the book "Small Railway Engines" and the tv Season 20 episodes Tit for Tat, Mike's Whistle and Useful Railway. Could you please🥺🥺🥺 i beg you.

[@abrr2000]

please please please don't say "steamies" It makes me cringe every time I hear such a babyish phraze that has NOTHING to do with the railway seriese and everything to do with american executives trying to aim Thomas at 3 year old kids.