GALLANT OLD ENGINE (RWS vs T&F) (Spot the Differences)

The Railway Series #17
Thomas & Friends: Special Funnel ~ Steam Roller ~ Passengers and Polish ~ Gallant Old Engine
Music by Mavis M (based on work composed by Mike O'Donnell & Junior Campbell)
Thanks to The Unlucky Tug
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[@primrosevale1995]

The main reason Peter Sam’s new funnel is rectangular is because the old funnel was kept in place on the model and the new one was simply a brass box that fit over it. They couldn’t do that with an actual Geisel ejector.

[@callum110597]

Really interesting.

[@Zacman1123]

Neat

[@TheBritFromOz008]

In the CGI series (which obviously didn’t have this physical limitation), Peter Sam’s funnel was altered to finally be an actual Geisel.

[@callum110597]

@@TheBritFromOz008 Really interesting. I never realised that.

[@mack_r-s]

Neither did I. Great insight you two (I’m addressing TheBritFromOz and Spike fyi).

[@Deadchannel2012-u7g]

Smudger was Rheneas "LAUGH" 13:52

[@gavintheredtrain6692]

Insert smudger laugh here

[@jediknightjameslunagazer7632]

Smudger was SPUD!

[@darkknight5541]

Here's a fun fact: This book and Thomas Comes Home, book 36, are the only ones in the entire Railway Series to have a story in them share a name with it, in both cases being the final one.

[@CranberrySauce-gh3fj]

And George appears in both books

[@alexanderbolton]

Mountain Engines wants a word.

[@darkknight5541]

@@alexanderbolton I realize this is going to make me look like an asshole, but Mountain Engine and Mountain Engines are not the same thing. The first refers to Culdee specifically.

[@SrMechaGojira93]

Luckily, the CGI series gave Peter Sam his proper Giesl Willie Rushton is hands down the *best* voice for George! I also really like the “Allo Allo Allo” from the police officer!

[@DiamondKingStudios]

"No passengers means no trains: no trains means no railway!" American railroads ditching their passenger trains to focus on freight and dumping passenger trains on Amtrak:

[@josephmarrison4606]

I feel the books had better moments than the adaptations personally. Because in The Books, plot holes are cleared up, e.g. The Children getting permission to see the engines, so they are not trespassing, and Duncan resting at a station, which makes much more sense, as it is mentioned in the next story that passengers get cross when they don’t stop at stations. The adaptation showing Duncan stopping not at a station is nonsensical, as it is still mentioned that passengers get cross if they stop at the wrong places in the next episode.

[@grooviestglobe4907]

If you use your brain and think about it it makes sense

[@callum110597]

I can understand that.

[@supermariof0521]

@@grooviestglobe4907 No need to be a smart@$$. >:(

[@TheBritFromOz008]

Rheneas’s bravery in Gallant Old Engine, particularly when running the line alone when Skarloey was too ill to work, mirrors exactly that on the Talyllyn in the late 1940s and early 1950s. The TR, which was owned by Sir Haydn Jones until his death in 1950, was in a bad state physically and financially after WWII - Talyllyn, which still had its 1863 boiler, was in a decrepit and non-running condition, so Dolgoch (not in a much better state - the railway couldn’t afford overhauls) had to run the line solo, as Rheneas does. I’m sure there was a feeling that if Dolgoch failed, that would be that and the railway would close. When the preservation society took over in 1951 and bought Sir Haydn (the engine) and Edward Thomas from the closed Corris Rly, one of their number owned a workshop and had Edward Thomas overhauled free of charge, so it could work the line and Dolgoch (and later Talyllyn) could be sent away to be overhauled. How closely Awdry mirrored real events in his stories is something that’s always fascinated me about The Railway Series - it’s so much more in-depth than one might expect from a children’s series (especially today).

[@epicdude8742]

Y'know with the books, Awdry had to explain every little odd inconsistency with how an engine's illustrated in the books. Not knocking Britt Allcroft & staff, but it would be hilarious to see them try and explain all of Rheneas' erroneous appearences in continuity. Lol

[@ciarangleeson2880]

I have the perfect solution to that! It’s not Rheneas! It’s actually Jennings, a Mid-Sodor engine that looks a lot like him. I suspect that Jennings was bought by the Skarloey Railway Quarry, which he is now privately owned by.

[@TankEngine97]

3:27 The reason why is because since the Skarloey engines had to be made smaller than the standard gauge engines, the model makers couldn't fit a smoke unit in them as there was only room for the eye mechanisms. It would probably explain why they are often seen pulling a single truck from time to time.

[@ciarangleeson2880]

Yeah, there are some moments where it’s glaringly noticeable. Also, Duke was the exception, due to him having a tender.

[@dragonqueen6589]

I have always admired the bravery of Rheneas.

[@wills_corner]

Can we just talk about what a great job the tv crew did at remaking these stories? Ok, carry on

[@terencewilliammckenna6121]

If engines stop in the wrong places such as viaducts in between stations, passengers then get upset and may not come back, and without any passengers or any other traffic in service, railroads’ business would be broke and close down, and the locomotives would be on the scrap-heap - This was what Rheneas cared about a lot before he went for an overhaul which is why he saved the line fro closure

[@connorflaherty175]

I still think George’s “no, it wasn’t! It was yours!” Is the best retort of the series.

[@Shakes-Off-Fear]

11:00, I’d forgotten how awful Duncan’s 3D model was. I mean they shrunk his boiler and smoke box!!

[@gregkiteos1936]

Apparently, the people who created the CGI characters for HiT/Nitrogen Studios went to the Talyllyn Railway to get the measurements of the engines, but Douglas (the real locomotive that Duncan is based on) was not available at the time, which is why CGI Duncan is so off!

[@J.MBevinton-Locomotive_317.]

@@gregkiteos1936 agree with you too.

[@Shakes-Off-Fear]

@@gregkiteos1936 ah, that does explain it somewhat but even just putting CGI Duncan next to model Duncan, you should be able to tell how off it is. Come to think of it, why couldn’t they have got measurements off of Duncan’s model and just compensated for scale?

[@billyjudd3326]

You forgot to mention in the Passengers and Polish S4 adaptation, When the passengers are complaining about being Late, The Refreshment Lady and Mrs. Last (The Woman with the grey hat on the right) were present there, This meant that The Refreshment Lady was too late to get too her job to help Nancy give the passengers their ices, And one of the passengers can be heard saying "We're losing money!".

[@callum110597]

Really amazing. I have yet to re-read the book. And interesting, that Rheneas has Smudger's face at one point.

[@tomtipperskippers2778]

In the back of the complete collection book it says that Wilburt suggested his retirement before his eyesight was bad and when it did start to fail more quickly he took Wilburt’s offer

[@williampulfer-melville8536]

12:17 I always thought it was interesting how in the Railway series due to the fact that they dangers of smoking we're not known so as a result you often saw characters like Mr Hugh they're smoking a pipe or in the first book of the Railway series you see The Fat Controller smoking a cigar and of course Mr Fergus Duncan the controller of the Arelsdale railway is seen smoking a pipe as well

[@MartinAsleep]

3:30 just wanted to mention that the reason steam is not pouring out of his funnel is that none of the narrow gauge engines had on board smoke generators.

[@thomasfan8332]

You are the best 1st best thomas fan i known

[@heathertiplady]

Having rewatched the classic model series, it's likely that some of the changes were made due to budgetary constraints, which meant working with what they had available at the time. Also, it could be that episodes "Steamroller" and "Special Funnel" were intended to be released after "Gallant old engine" (just a guess). Finally, there will always creative differences when making adaptaions (e.g., emphasing that Sodor is a completely different location) and when working with physical models, details like winks aren't easy to include, especially when the models are tiny to ensure everything is to scale.

[@Wolfric_Rogers]

4:34, the Fat Controller laughed, "You are wrong.".

[@allisonkrueger8330]

12:26 that “oooh” sounds kinda like Chewbacca lol😂

[@MATT2productions]

Tbh, the faces in the illustrations are good. I cant believe that the faces in the illustrations were used for the TV

[@vincentmorris8431]

The book says that the main issue with losing the funnel, was the passengers disturbed by the smoke. The brake van somehow got to the middle of the train Stepney's story ought to be a doozy.

[@duckthegreatwesternengine4340]

This channel really is the finest cocoa amazing video

[@Charliejashworth]

Wow I loved your narration in this plus I’m in the Lake District watching this what a treat!

[@bearthehymekdiesel2000]

In the book, George the steamroller looks like the Grinch to me

[@terencewilliammckenna6121]

Look up the history of Dolgoch saving the Talyllyn line from closure

[@lukegreen5341]

6:22 This Is My Funniest Scene In The Show. Thanks Mate. X

[@terencewilliammckenna6121]

Let's vote for Rheneas's error cameos to be edited with Rheneas edited in color as another engine

[@ciarangleeson2880]

I think that engine is supposed to be Jennings from the Mid-Sodor Railway.

[@katrinfuchs6208]

Kenny is probably my favorite artist tbh

[@charimew3745]

What if the series is non-chronological, and Dunkin' Duncan and Duncan and the Grumpy Passenger take place before Gallant Old Engine? (Take that, Tuggy!)

[@thomasegcouplesandships1956]

You're an awesome user!

[@ValentinSparkle16]

Really, So You Don't Think I'm Awesome Anymore!😢😢😭😭

[@andrewmcneish5309]

it was weird for rheneas wearing smugers paused face and sir handel and duncan are both grumpy engines and peter sam's tv funnel is retangle shape until cgi fix it but will have good diffrence from next book

[@showbizrailproductions]

13:52 is the best outro

[@johnsjovialpictures]

I'm looking forward to seeing RWS vs T&F for Stepney The Bluebell Engine.

[@mariobabbo3497]

The Very Old Engine, Great Little Engines and New Little Engine are the only books about the Skarloey Railway not to be adapted for the television series.

[@karenfan010]

actually some in the tv engines such as mavis and daisy started as rude engines but changed after two episodes so not all rude engines stay the same forever

[@pk_arcfire]

Next book Stepney the bluebell engine? :D

[@harrisonallen651]

Smudger was Rheneas confirmed

[@callum110597]

XD.

[@evanclarke5561]

He's just Rheneas repainted, basically his brother.

[@harrisonallen651]

@@evanclarke5561 American Cousin

[@evanclarke5561]

@@harrisonallen651 wait are you saying Smudger and Stanley are the same engine

[@harrisonallen651]

@@evanclarke5561 yes

[@MattzWorkz]

smudger was the engine behind the slagthur

[@gavintheredtrain6692]

Am I the only one that thinks Peter Sam’s original model looks jarring with his special funnel😕

[@nullerp]

his smokebox is painted glossy but his funnel is matte and its very distracting

[@gavintheredtrain6692]

Well at least the large scale model doesn’t look weird with the special funnel

[@russellpointer4731]

GASP, The ending :P

[@Zobie2game]

13:52 smudger and rheneas actually have the same model

[@lukegauci1159]

How have I never notice that the Narrow Gauge engines don't have smoke motors in their funnels??? As a child it never occured to me that steam wasn't coming out of their funnels, just from the ground, liek they are letting off steam.

[@hakudothem8876]

Smudger was Rheneas. HEHEHEHEHEHE

[@guilhermerossi807]

Smudger was Rheneas 😅

[@Biggyfresh]

I have a question that im not sure the answer of. There is this other channel called Jeffrey Kitsch, and im not sure if these guys are the same people or if one is stealing vids from another? im so confused

[@ScrapyardStudios]

i think Kenney volunteered to step down from the role

[@supermariodanny3820]

Next do "Really Useful Engines" with Mind that bike and fish

[@darkknight5541]

I think he's doing them in order, so Stepney the Bluebell Engine will be next.

[@S0LARL1GHT]

9:44 doulcan?

[@1stPeacePrize456]

Cool

[@reedbradwahnnatahvera3883]

The stories toke place in 1961

[@jaydenbrownman4181]

my favorite story is the one with trains

[@Zacman1123]

I know in the books we wouldn't find out til later but I was never a fan of how the Reverend made everyone, sans Rusty, the same color. It was hard picking out who was who.

[@the4tierbridge]

Yes, but it was very realistic.

[@carmelchocolate5743]

@ oneteir relastic doesn't mean good the tv show made the skarloey railway characters much better colors

[@the4tierbridge]

@@carmelchocolate5743 But why are Rheneas and Rusty both orange?

[@carmelchocolate5743]

Rheneas is scarlet. And rusty is orange

[@the4tierbridge]

@@carmelchocolate5743 He’s orange. The merchandise made him Scarlett because of inaccurate magazine illustrations, but in the show, eh’s always been an orange color.

[@ARobloxremake]

One more thing Sir Handel in the TV series he is not purple he is dark blue do you understand me

[@techengine8667]

Your work is very similar to that of Jeffrey Kitsch, is that a coincidence ?

[@ericfasold805]

That's becasue it IS Jeffery.

[@isakdahlgren8335]

when will you make a vido about rock and roll?

[@jimmymccartney2049]

Series 4(1994-95)

[@jimmymccartney2049]

Narrated by: George Carlin

[@LhanzDaBoi]

Early gang

[@carsracinandreviews8953]

Ha smudger was rheneas

[@USER-LlewisTLDB]

Mr. Hieu doesn't appear until season 9 😂

[@ciarangleeson2880]

MR HUGH.

[@ericfasold805]

When's the next episode coming out?

[@terencewilliammckenna6121]

Now

[@blitztherescuepup4110]

what the rws reading called like the vid

[@arthurobermejo5754]

Smudger was Rheneas HEHEHHEHEHEH!!

[@Cliffz8224]

*smuger was rheneas was smuger. HEHEHEHEHE*

[@jimmymccartney2049]

1962

[@jimmymccartney2049]

1951-61

[@terencewilliammckenna6121]

BR, tittle polish,

[@greenengineproductions1682]

Are you really color blind?

[@jimmythelegoman4184]

Ha ha