Stereo Build Walkthrough - Ram Rebel

[@frankgilford1428]

I've been searching high and low for a complete explanation. You are FREAKING awesome. Thank You!

[@ericpowell7315]

THANK YOU x10k FOR THE PART NUMBERS! Great video. Unlike many it gives the info one would logically ask about erach part/step.

[@WaterFowler41]

Trying to make sure my channel is as helpful as it can be! Thanks for the compliment!

[@1975normal]

I just got a 2019 Ram Rebel. This video answered my questions for upgrading my sound system. Thank You

[@WaterFowler41]

Great to hear!

[@kc44972]

Bro, your talking makes sense. No need to apologize. Your explanation was worth the listen. I would definitely love the specs for your custom box.

[@WaterFowler41]

Check out the share folder link in the description. I added the (very rough) drawing I made for when I was building the box.

[@billymccormick4194]

The ONE video I've been looking for. THANKS!

[@bradmonkiewicz8375]

Great video

[@JR23z51]

Great video. Awsome installation on your truck, very clean. Good job.

[@WaterFowler41]

Hope it helped your project!!!

[@dabearsfan3533]

Great video man, Realy informative, and the custom box is genius. Great system all together

[@michaellopez8385]

Excellent!! Awesome breakdown and super informative!!

[@angryace4017]

Unless you were hellbent on using the LC7i, the PAC AMPPro AP4-CH41 (R.2) would have been a much better choice to interface with the radio. It's a plug and play device that provides clean 6 Channel RCA outputs or Toslink output for your amps. Plus, it works better for the factory chimes, parking sensors and navigation. You would still use the ANC bypass and access the factory wiring for speaker outputs.

[@WaterFowler41]

I already had the lc7 from another project

[@patsy1833]

As always a very nicely organized vid. I wish I had this when I was struggling with doing mine when these trucks first came out. Great choice of equipment. I think you hit the perfect price/performance point for those not looking to go too crazy with $$ but want to kick up the base system. Makes a huge difference. Keep the vids coming.

[@WaterFowler41]

Thanks so much!

[@crx350x1]

Super awesome video. Very well explained. I recently purchased a 2020 big horn with same 8.4" screen six speaker system and let me just say Dodge dropped the ball with this one. It literally drops when you try to even slightly turn up the volume. Horrible. will most likely be getting a full stereo soon!

[@Waltorian]

I wish someone would explain why that happens. I too have a 2020 rebel and I have the same problem. The bass mainly cuts out. Especially when playing my amazon music through the cable. It’s infuriating. If I’d known I probably would not have spent so much money on a truck.

[@WaterFowler41]

Its definitely worth the effort!

[@johnburke1573]

Excellent breakdown !!! 👍

[@chadbrown7648]

Very nice video just got my 22 rebel and I’m getting ready to do a full system n this helped a lot

[@jb7069]

Nice explanation on upgrading the stock 6 speaker 👍 I would like upgrade mine as well down the line

[@Thepyeguy314]

Very nice install thanks for the video I just installed something similar to your set up on my 17 ram I went with Rockford fosgate in all my doors an dash I did run a lc7i had the same problem with it turn on an off I decided to go with a dsr1 with a idatalink t harness the dsr1 has an app you download on your phone to tune your entire system make it fun to fiddle with

[@WaterFowler41]

Awesome idea!

[@joet.2078]

Awesome Video with best explanation I've found so far for upgrading. I have a 2019 Ram 1500 - Quad Cab though and trying to figure out the best way to upgrade my stereo and have not been able to find any solutions for adding a sub. Since yours is a crew cab I'm not sure if the under seat dimensions are similar with the seats of a quad cab. I've heard many different observations, some saying that the bench seats are almost the same since the main difference between the Crew and Quad Cab is the extra leg room. So I'm hoping a similar sub box solution might work also for an quad cab version of the Ram 1500 truck. Thanks again for your detail info on everything.

[@gabrielrobichaud6039]

Thanks for Sharing! Huge time saver and helped me sort out my install. :)

[@joseg2477]

thank you soooo much you just gained new subscriber here !!

[@WaterFowler41]

Thanks for subbing!

[@joseg2477]

@@WaterFowler41 with your video i was able to run a 4 channel amp and sub amp

[@vazingear7542]

You said f65 but the manual says f66 for the "run-accessory feed". Can you confirm if it's f65 or 66? Great video this the information I was looking for overall for my truck as well.

[@scotttaylor3630]

I used F66 for “run-accessory feed”and I have no power to the Lc7i. Mine also says the same as above from my manual. Can you tell me if you are running that to the 12vdc on the LOC and what configuration your jumpers are in it? Thanks

[@abelscaliber7969]

The factory dash speakers look like midrange speakers but they are crossed over to be tweeters When you put an aftermarket speaker usually it’s a component 3.5” and usually it’s either 4ohm or 3ohm in the case of the infinity. Half the impedance.. twice the power + your adding a midrange that isn’t crossover at 9k hz like the factory dash speaker. That’s why it sounds louder.. and also if you like sound stage you WANT the dash speakers to pull the sound up high and in front of you.

[@ItsJustManny305]

Great video! The reason your speakers lose bass is because factory speakers are highly optimized to perform in the factory doors. Essentially factory speakers are like hybrid subwoofers sort of. With any after market speaker you replace, you must sound deadened the doors to really enhance the bass output. I guarantee if you sound deadened the doors your system will sound much cleaner and your cabin will be quieter. Of course you can always do more than just deadening the doors :)

[@TeeJay903]

Awesome! Thanks for the video! Outstanding!

[@WaterFowler41]

Hope it helps!

[@TeeJay903]

@@WaterFowler41 Bro, I was dreading installing an inline amp after doing it my Dodge Journey. Now, I have a '20 Ram 1500 and this has me hopeful again! Thanks man!

[@hyperscitic92a]

This Is EXACTLY the detailed instructions I’ve been digging the internet for!! Thank you!! Questions: when it comes to the LC7i, that adds the feature for “AccuBass” but I noticed you don’t have that spare channel used to output to your amp. I guess, how do you route your sub if not from the LC7i? Does the Alpine Amp filter the sub frequencies appropriately just with those speaker inputs? If so, could we effectively us the LC6i in place of the 7i? Thanks again!!

[@WaterFowler41]

Yes the spline amp has a 5th channel specifically for the subwoofer so it has all the cutoffs I need

[@hyperscitic92a]

@@WaterFowler41 Gotcha! Makes sense. So then really we could bypass the AccuBass feature entirely with the LC6i instead and get the same results?

[@WaterFowler41]

Yep I used the lc7 because I had it laying around, the lc6 works as well

[@stephenbrothers9185]

I just finished my speaker upgrade in my Ram 3500 (2018, so previous body style from this). I also had problems with bass basically vanishing after my upgrade. Come to find out, I think the factory speakers are inverted polarity and when you install new ones they're not inverted anymore with the metra adapters. So with the subwoofer installed from the factory you wind up with the sub and the door speakers basically cancelling out a lot of each other's low end and then your music seems bassless. Just something to keep an eye on. You can get a phone app that will tell you what polarity your running. The polarity itself matters less than making sure it's all the same.

[@WaterFowler41]

I actually had this same issue in my gmc!

[@scottcraig4413]

Absolutely spectacular video! Thank you for taking the time and showing your build! It looks amazing and super clean! I have an 18 with the alpine system so im looking at doing something similar build but have to deal with the internal amp.

[@WaterFowler41]

Pac has a harness to allow integration into the factory amplified system, a little more $$ but helps make the install a breeze

[@scottcraig4413]

@@WaterFowler41 i was just looking at Crutch field and it seems better to go with your setup (5 channel) and do away with the factory amp altogether. Thanks again!

[@josemopar708]

Thanksfor the help I will put it on my truck. 👍🔟

[@MadJawa889]

Well guess I will be going to a shop to get a sound system upgraded lmao my mind is 🤯

[@WaterFowler41]

You won’t regret it!

[@fishrrelaxing9361]

Generally everyone just cuts the and and leaves the wires cut. The noise canceling will severely mess with you’re overall sound quality. This is something we figured out ages ago on Cadillacs. It does provide a nice easy play to tap into the speaker wires but we leave that anc cut and disabled 99.9% if the time in all vehicles. Have to know the vehicle and specially how it works.. cause sometimes the anc is built into the factory amp on high end factory systems. Not an with external amp but if trying to run factory amp for door speakers sometimes this won’t work. Pac makes incredible products but most often I just use t taps and the wires.

[@WaterFowler41]

This harness bypasses the anc as well as provides an easy method for tapping into the favtory speaker signals.

[@DemocracyV3]

Get the Kenwood Excelon KFC-XP6903C for the front. They have a filter for the dash and a choke for the doors. Best investment I made for my truck. Even the factory head unit drives em hard. Spent over 1k on my wifes car trying to get hers to sounds as good as mine with just that upgrade. If you have an 18+ with the touch screen get AmpPro from PAC if you want to amplify. Pure signal out with no bass roll off.

[@WaterFowler41]

What I installed worked well for me

[@bleezham]

What was the 10 AMP Red wire in the fuse box used for again? Is that to turn the system on? I got a little confused when discussing powering the amp, then showing a power out to the Line out convertor... BTW the ANC harness is a game changer. I was going to pay an installer but this will make life easier... ! Last question, did you loose the ANC functionality?

[@WaterFowler41]

Yes the 10 amp is the remote turn on. This harness bypasses anc so you will no longer have it

[@TelmoMonteiro]

I just wished you made a sound demo. Nice setup

[@WaterFowler41]

Really hard to do that with a gopro and a rode mic. Stereos are one of those, need to hear in person, kind of things. Not sure how much value add it would've been to record the output from the stereo.

[@TelmoMonteiro]

@@WaterFowler41 I usually can have a good ideia of the sound quality by comparing to the remaining audio of the video (if recorded the same way). My ears adjust to whatever audio quality is recorded and comparisons are made with that reference

[@genebeckley5189]

Does the Harmon Karmon stereo system use better speakers than the alpine system ?

[@unixdoes]

good deal saving money on dealer options! have done JL and Kicker systems in past cars, all of which sounded better than the best OEM upgrades. not sure on the rebel, but when i looked at the power wagon + harmon kardon system i hated how it sucked up half your rear under seat storage. better to have a reasonable number of quality speakers IMO.

[@lenstage3982]

I searched but didn't see this asked. I have the LC7I from a previous Chevy truck, did using this method on the RAM amplify all your chimes ? Turn signals, ect..

[@WaterFowler41]

No it does not. I had a gmc and yes it does in gm’s but not rams thank god

[@arielgonzalez813]

How about incoming phone calls?

[@WaterFowler41]

@arielgonzalez813 never an issue for me

[@MattD-x5i]

great video! thanks!

[@WaterFowler41]

Glad you liked it!

[@gabrielrobichaud6039]

Everything works, thanks again! Just wondering if you added resistors before the tweeters.. I find I have a bit too much treble even after fiddling with the EQ

[@WaterFowler41]

I didn’t but i have some in my stereo bin. Bought them for this purpose but never installed them.

[@gabrielrobichaud6039]

@@WaterFowler41 I wish I had an actual audio frequency monitoring tool but ended up using an app to simulate pink noise and found a spike around 9k. Then using the PowerEQ app for android I adjusted my phones EQ accordingly and now my treble seems to be under control. I mostly listen to music from spotify via Android Auto and I love having more than just the basic 3 band equalizer the stock radio offers. Figured I would share as a thank you for sharing your install.

[@catofphatness]

So, if I use the LC7i just like you did, I don't need the PAC AMP Pro AP4CH1 like everyone on the 5th Gen forum is using? And I'm not sure why I others use both. I have a 2019 RAM 1500 with the base stereo as well. I am confused if I need the PAC AMP Pro AP4-CH1 and the LC7i so I don't lose anything or if the LC7i will be good enough alone. I already got the aftermarket ANC bypass. Did you lose alerts or useability in anything? Aside from ANC.

[@rentasrey15]

Gr8 video. I emailed you for those specs on the box

[@WaterFowler41]

Email coming soon!

[@johnstougard8882]

Awsome video may I get the dominions of the box

[@WaterFowler41]

There’s a link in the video description to a share folder, the dimensioned drawing is in there

[@kelvin1653]

So no problems with running the amp speaker wires that way? Two years later everything still working as normal?

[@WaterFowler41]

Yup still working!

[@kelvin1653]

I ran new speaker wire to the door speakers but the Bluetooth sounds awful the music sounds good but looks like I will have to run them just like you did

[@CheapestBigSpender]

Awesome. Thank you so much. How much do you think your system cost?

[@WaterFowler41]

Less than 1000 is my guess, it’s been a while so not quite certain

[@nickrutyna3618]

Great video!! Do you know if it’s possible to run a 4 channel amp for the 6 speakers and a mono channel amp for the sub with the Lc7i?

[@WaterFowler41]

I don't see why not since the LC7 has multiple RCA outputs, you can dump the 3rd set of RCAs into a mono amp for your sub

[@mattunverferth4538]

So you only ran two rca outputs from the lc7 to the amp? To be able to adjust them and wires the sub from the amp only correct? Dont need a separate channel rca for the sub? If so, could i get away with an lc2i instead ?

[@WaterFowler41]

If you ONLY want to do a subwoofer, yes an LC2 will do the trick. I ran the 4 signals into the LC7 to sum them (add highs and lows together) then ran those signals into the amps so each channel receives a FULL signal. The 5 channel amp has a filter channel so I fed my subwoofer with that signal. If you use just the lc2, you will splice into the two front channels not completely cut the wire and feed them into the lc2, then send that signal into the amp for your sub.

[@BJSforVols_37188]

Great video! How do you connect the power from the fuse/distribution box to the batter terminal?

[@WaterFowler41]

A short piece of 4 gauge wire with a ring connector on the end of the wire to attached to the battery terminal.

[@HookedonHD]

Great video! I've been reading the 5th gen forums for a few days now and this is one of the best explanations imho! So, did you end up disabling the ANC? Because, after I upgraded my stock 6 speaker setup in my 1500 my ANC went haywire and I now have this drone sound and I unplugged the ANC harness for now. Moreover, I am looking for a an amp and a subwoofer option right now and I do use the under my rear seats for storage so, I am trying to figure out a way to install a sub or two behind the rear seats if I can.

[@WaterFowler41]

The anc ch01 disables the anc system so I don’t have to deal with the droning.

[@HookedonHD]

@@WaterFowler41 ok, I have the same harness and I wasn't sure if you had installed back in the ANC or not. So, the amp is also amplifying the 6 speakers? Any recommendations for a slimmer subwoofer solution behind the rear seats? Thanks in advance!

[@WaterFowler41]

Yes the amp is amplifying all 6 speakers 4 main channels and the dash tweeters in parallel with the front door speakers. I haven’t seen a back wall sub option, just slim subs for under the rear seats. I like my pioneer ib flat.

[@HookedonHD]

@@WaterFowler41 Thanks for the info and great writeup! Do you have a link of the thing you have installed to the battery in the engine compartment by any chance? I was just looking at this www.crutchfield.com/p_241LINKLD/Wamacr-vtech-linkLD.html and wondering if what you have installed is same as that?

[@WaterFowler41]

This is what I have in the engine bay, it’s a dual fuse scosche block. Scosche HY1622B Compatible with 2009-10 Hyundai Sonata ISO Double DIN & DIN+Pocket Dash Kit, Radio Delete Version Black www.amazon.com/dp/B002RG23MS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_KDKZ9YK6EEZVZJP121BE

[@willebiggz]

good vid.. helped alot. i am installing a similar set up in my ram. but i have a couple questions... i see that you used the pac anc- ch01 that is sending the signal to your LC7i then to your amp. then back to the ANC.. are your dash speakers running to the amp as well.. or are they summed with the front door speakers from the factory? also if i run the add a fuse like you did is that going to bypass the GTO circut on the lc7i. i heard that using the gto feature is not the best cause it turns the system on every time you open the doors.

[@WaterFowler41]

Dash are tied in with my front doors so fed from the front channels on my amp. Yep that’s exactly why I ran a switched lead, every time I opened the doors my lc and my amp kept turning on.

[@willebiggz]

@@WaterFowler41 do the dash speakers come stock wired in with the front.. so when i pick up the signal from the anc module i will be sending both the dash and doors to the lc7i?

[@Ourgarageautodetail]

Great video! Well done

[@kelvin1653]

So I did the lc7 also want time I unlock the truck the lc7 and amps light up but will turn all after a min or so

[@FabianRodriguez1991]

Great video broski👍👍

[@WaterFowler41]

Thanks dude-ski!

[@kylenoble8496]

Did you run new speaker wires to all of the speakers from the amp? Or did you somehow feed everything through the factory speaker wires?

[@WaterFowler41]

No I ran the wires to the loc/amp then the wires from the amp tap into the trucks existing wires.

[@WaterFowler41]

I cover that in the video, only wires I run are to and from the pac harness to the LOC, otherwise the stock wires are used for home runs

[@austing2481]

You don’t have to run wires to the door speakers. Just find the harness that the door speakers are located in and connect the wires you run from the amp to the CAR side of the harness, not the one going to the amp

[@billymccormick4194]

@@austing2481 which is which one? I'm using the ANC CH01, and i get cutting the pig tail. But, that connector doesn't plug into anything on the ANC module. I can get the signal from the module via the adapter, but I'm lost on where to send it once it leaves my amp.

[@billymccormick4194]

@@WaterFowler41 which is which one? I'm using the ANC CH01, and i get cutting the pig tail. But, that connector doesn't plug into anything on the ANC module. I can get the signal from the module via the adapter, but I'm lost on where to send it once it leaves my amp.

[@ElfidoVigil]

Signal wire you said on the fuse, so you’re saying you got the actual speaker signal from there? I’m confused

[@WaterFowler41]

My LOC has a speaker sensing feature where once theres a signal sent through the speaker wires, the LOC turns ON. However this causes issues because the speakers were constantly seeing a signal so I ran a fuse tap to the remote plug to turn the LOC on when the truck is on instead of using the speaker sensing. I disabled speaker sensing.

[@ElfidoVigil]

@@WaterFowler41 I’m running the same loc and having the same issue.

[@wzupmane]

Do you still have the factory subwoofer playing? Great info btw!

[@WaterFowler41]

With the base speaker package I don’t have a subwoofer

[@27jsoto]

Really awesome video. This is the type of videos people need to make. Can I get the dimensions for the box. Hopefully I can do one for mine.

[@WaterFowler41]

Thanks!!!! I just added the subwoofer drawing and some additional pictures for reference. The link to the folder is in the video description.

[@27jsoto]

@@WaterFowler41 thank you. I have a question. Does the ANC work with the 2019 Ram Big Horn? That’s what I have.

[@WaterFowler41]

As long as it’s the v8 with base 6 speaker package yes.

[@27jsoto]

@@WaterFowler41 thanks.

[@27jsoto]

@@WaterFowler41 sorry one more question. If you cut the wires from the anc. The wires from the amp are connected to the piece that you just cut off. So what would it do? If the pice was cut off from the ANC to connect the cables to the LC7i.

[@Blacksssbalt]

Thank you for the video but had a quick question. I am pulling wiring out of the ANC bypass as you did here. The difference I have from you is I ran new speaker wire to all speakers. With this being said I will not be running speaker wire back to the ANC bypass as the speaker wire will be running from amp to each speaker. With my application would you recommend using only half of the ANC bypass to run signal to my LC7i or should I T in the wires to the ANC bypass so the loop is still present?

[@WaterFowler41]

Yup the anc harness can send the factory signal back to your processor then your new cable runs will home run to every speaker. God speed my man, those door harnesses up from are not fun to remove but if you need help, check out my paragoptics video. I show the door connectors and how they pop out.

[@johnnypiper1717]

@Waterfowler 41 awesome video, question I'm gonna be adding jus a mono amp for my 2 subs. I was gonna jus gonna get the lc2i pro and use it to get my signal(rca's) to my mono amp. Will my door speakers still sound ok I was told if I use a lc2i my door speakers will not sound good cuse I would hear nothing but bass and should use the pac pro which I could always add a small 4 channel if my subs over power my door speakers after I install.

[@crazystax1]

I hot a 2019 ram. all I added was a JL Audio sub. driving home truck went into Limp mode. every light came on dash. # WHAT PROCESSOR do I need to Run a Sub With built in AMP?......

[@jaisontorresmaldonado3873]

Can you please show a picture/video of the connections on the ANC. I have a Rebel my self, change the speakers and I’m not happy. I would like to incorporate your upgrade. I Jaír have doubts on the ANC as I am not quite a wire guy! Thank you

[@WaterFowler41]

I added a wiring diagram to the share folder (link in description). Take a look at that and let me know if it makes sense or if you have any additional questions.

[@911chgammer]

Does the anc have a power and ground wire I can splice into. From looks of wire size guessing the yellow and black in the adapter harness. I have a pac lp7-2r rather not tap into fuse of truck if I don’t have too.

[@MrMiguelbueno]

I HAVE A 2013 RAM SWAPPED OUT THE DOOR SPEAKERS FOCAL ACCESS 6X9 IN BACK DOORS FOCAL FLAX COMPONETS IN THE FRONT DOORS JBL PREMIEM 3 1/2 IN THE DASH AND ITS ALL RUNNING OFF FACTORY STEREO AND YOU CAN FEEL THE BASS PEOPLE THINK I HAVE A SUB

[@fearlessknight4910]

Can u please provide the info for the dual battery terminal you used. I know you said scosche but can’t find it online

[@WaterFowler41]

Here you go: Scosche HY1622B Compatible with 2009-10 Hyundai Sonata ISO Double DIN & DIN+Pocket Dash Kit, Radio Delete Version Black www.amazon.com/dp/B002RG23MS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_1MFV9BCHHG36XF44VAJS

[@cregxy]

Did you need resistors after running your speaker inputs to the lc7i?

[@WaterFowler41]

Nope! Worked as is

[@cregxy]

@@WaterFowler41 thanks for the reply! That'll save me some time!

[@BJSforVols_37188]

I have a question on the configuration of your LC7i. Did you set the jumpers on the LC7i for summing the input signals, or did you leave it as factory default for non-summed?

[@WaterFowler41]

Kept them as stock

[@hbseth1867]

Fun Fact - I found an ACC Remote wire that goes hot with ignition underneath the power driver seat. Brown wire if I remember correct (been a while).

[@WaterFowler41]

Any idea what it’s powering? I’m typically hesitant about tapping wires I don’t know the end use of

[@hbseth1867]

@@WaterFowler41 I should have added "use a relay" just in case but for me, it's worked great for over a year now on daily use. Didn't even use a relay because I'm a cowboy!

[@hbseth1867]

@@WaterFowler41 I can only assume this is powering all seat controls so that when you hit a button on the lower left it already has it's power source and can immediately react for your convenience.

[@WaterFowler41]

Raw dogging it!

[@alexstovall7193]

Great video!

[@WaterFowler41]

Thanks dude!

[@bdbbdb9691]

I have a 5th gen Laramie with H.K. anything I have to do differently to add only my amp and subs no other speakers

[@benladin626]

Hi! I have the same amp as you. I was wondering did you bridge your Sub or did you use the dedicated sub channel and not bridge it. I wanna bridge my sub but I don't know what channel to use. Your help would be appreciated!

[@WaterFowler41]

I use the dedicated sub channel since the other 4 channels power my speakers

[@benladin626]

@@WaterFowler41 how does it sound using the dedicated channel. does the sub hit pretty hard and also does the amp get hot where you mounted it at?

[@WaterFowler41]

I’ve had this amp for 4 years and have always used it set up this way, for the music I listen to, it hits as hard as the sub can handle. Never had any overheating issues.

[@benladin626]

@@WaterFowler41 awesome thanks!

[@brandonhatfield2547]

So I just replaced all 6 speakers with infinity. 6x9's and the 3.5's. obviously way better sound clarity. Still don't think it sounds all that good though. Did you rock the stereo before adding the amplifier? How big of a difference after adding the amp? Excluding the sub as I don't have one. Although I think they may be in the near future. I also disabled the ANC just in case.

[@jasondavis4421]

Hmmm i never thought it was obvious that infinity sounded better? I do like infinity for highs but as a full range every infinity ive tried ended up in a trash can..id buy a pioneer speaker before an infinity for a full range speaker..but im glad for you infiniti is obviously better sounding

[@jasondavis4421]

Id probably leave the factory 10 watters in without an amp..in all seriousness and no pun if i was you id throw that little alpine inline compact amp in behinde the stereo in the dash, id evan say its required minimum for a speaker upgrade to power basically any aftermarket speaker..you will still be missing sound tho from that factory head unit it would sound 100 times better tho..but that little alpine amp with a kicker self powered sub and speaker enclosure that come in 8 and 10 inch are perfect..if you add an affordable digital processor to recover the lost frequencies from the head unit you would be satisfied and only out 800 bucks with speakers you would be pushing 1200 dollars..but beyonde a doubt it would out perform the factory amplified system and you wouldnt know you didnt spend 3 grand by listening to it..

[@UnboxTactical]

The center dash speaker, is that upgradable? I have the same stock system that you have.

[@angryace4017]

There is no center speaker on the base system

[@rwhite1357]

Do you have a factory service manual or a wiring diagram for your Rebel? Looks like you have printed copy. Where did you get it?

[@WaterFowler41]

There is a link in the video description, that should take you to a share folder with the crutchfield installation guide for our trucks

[@ericpcronic]

Only one question, did your chimes, phone calls, etc also get amplified? I ran the same setup in my last truck and had that issue. Thanks!

[@WaterFowler41]

Did you by chance have a GM?

[@ericpcronic]

@@WaterFowler41 Yep, sure did! Door chime was deafening!

[@WaterFowler41]

Yep me too, it most certainly was, you will not have that issue with the Ram.

[@kelvin1653]

Do not know if you used a dd1 but what volume are distortion

[@willebiggz]

water fowler: i have my new system diagramed out. i was wondeing if you could take a look and tell me if the signal flow is correct. if you dont mind taking a look i have it in a PDF file. how can i get it to you

[@WaterFowler41]

You can email me at [e-mail]

[@valencianojr]

For the signal speaker for the LCI, did you run the 16 pin as feed or the 22 pin side?

[@WaterFowler41]

I cut the speakers wires that are a apart of the pac harness.

[@ramonherrera1629]

Is there any way I can pay you to build the same custom box for me?

[@WaterFowler41]

Sorry man, I just make my videos and provide the info!

[@TheBeaugarson]

Hello good sir! What’s the proper measurement for that box please? Or if you could build me oneand mail it to me I’ll pay for it. I got a 2021 Laramie crew cab

[@WaterFowler41]

Shoot me an email and I can share the dimensions. [e-mail]

[@jesusescobedo8462]

how you keep the inline fused to stay in that spot? You drilled or used double sided tape?

[@WaterFowler41]

3M VHB double stick tape

[@jesseortiz3832]

Will the harness (ANC-CH01) work with the Laramie that has the 9 speaker alpine system?

[@WaterFowler41]

I think this is the one you would need for that kit. catalog.pac-audio.com/catalog/amplifier-integration-harness/aph-ch03

[@thomassimon972]

I used this exact wiring for a 2021, lc6i tho and infinity amp. I have it all wired up but im not getting signal to the lc6i. Im not sure if i have the anc wired right or if i missed a step? Any info would be helpful! Thanks!

[@WaterFowler41]

I’d double check and be sure you’re grabbing the speaker level signals from the correct side of the anc harness

[@thomassimon972]

@@WaterFowler41 i did, a even swapped them from side to side to test and nothing, i called cruthcfeild and they said i need resistors. do you have a pic or clear wiring diagram so i could double check?

[@WaterFowler41]

@thomassimon972 I had to add resistors when I updated my radio to the 12”. This what I used: www.bestbuy.com/site/audiocontrol-20-ohm-load-generating-device-and-signal-stabilizer-pair-green/6482929.p?skuId=6482929&extStoreId=311&ref=212&loc=19663688574&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAAD-ORIjD9l6Xs3WtAxwZkTCf4n0ui&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI45rKooPqhAMV5G5HAR0PuAJZEAQYAiABEgKn1_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

[@thomassimon972]

@@WaterFowler41 thats what crutchfeild sent me, they said i have to just splice them inline with the signal from the truck to the lc6i and itll all work! theyll be here tue/wed, thanks for the help!

[@WaterFowler41]

@@thomassimon972 they should plug right into your lc6

[@911chgammer]

Do you have to wire from amp back into the anc harness? I’m just looking to power my sub not my door speakers.

[@WaterFowler41]

If you’re only looking to grab the signal for a subwoofer no you don’t need to wire the amp back to the anc but make sure you’re only t-tapping the speaker lines and not cutting them.

[@jonathanchandler4010]

Which metra adapters did you end up using on the speakers. Reading on the forums and some people say 3614 some say 3615

[@WaterFowler41]

The link to the harness I used is in the video description

[@jonathanchandler4010]

@@WaterFowler41 did you find that any of the speakers were out of phase with each other for the anc system or did you not worry about polarity

[@WaterFowler41]

Nope checked every speaker while installing them and it worked out great

[@chrissparks9954]

What are the dimensions for the sub box you built?

[@WaterFowler41]

Send me a dm on Instagram or email me and i can share the dimensions

[@johnnyavina5721]

Hey bro, did you make the storage panel underneath the seat?

[@WaterFowler41]

The sub box? Yes I did. There is a crude drawing of the box in the share folder in this videos description. It shows the dimensions

[@johnnyavina5721]

@@WaterFowler41 the storage panel. My Rebel didnt come with a storage bin/panel so i can build the box you got on yours.

[@WaterFowler41]

No, my truck came with the underseat storage.

[@abrahambetancour4010]

Can you elaborate a little more on power source for lc7i.

[@WaterFowler41]

I ran a jumper from my amp power to the lc7

[@arielgonzalez813]

@@WaterFowler41what size jumper? And did you grab your ground from the amp as well or from your ground source?

[@saullopez503]

What if you have a speaker package in my case the hardon Cardon one what do I do then?

[@WaterFowler41]

You’ll likely need the Amp Pro harness to add additional stereo equipment to an OEM-amped stereo

[@saullopez503]

@@WaterFowler41 difficult you think?

[@WaterFowler41]

Nope just a few more parts and a little more $$ to upgrade

[@glennwoodward77]

I’ve installed this exact system on my 2019 ram big horn with same base level 6 speaker stereo. I’m not getting any output from the head unit. Is there a chance I need to buy the AC-LGD-20 load resistors?

[@WaterFowler41]

If you followed what I did with my harness then you shouldn’t need the resistors. Did you try removing the anc-ch01 and seeing if you get sound out of your speakers?

[@glennwoodward77]

@@WaterFowler41 yes, if I remove the harness and test speakers they don’t work. After locking doors and waiting 20 minutes they’ll work again (which I believe is after the unit does a reset). I’ve repeated that several times. I’ve got them on order so we’ll see what happens. Symptoms seem to call for it. Thanks for a great tutorial, look forward to getting this working

[@glennwoodward77]

Update to this: I installed 20 ohm load resisters and after doing the 20 minute reset on truck (close, lock doors and wait) I now have speaker output and everything is working beautifully!

[@arielgonzalez813]

⁠@@glennwoodward77did your incoming phone calls get really loud?

[@json216]

The 3.5 in dash are only 25 watt rms...wont amp blow them since they run off the doors

[@WaterFowler41]

Never had an issue with them.

[@kc44972]

Why does Crutchfield Says the infinity speakers doesn’t fit the 2021 ram rebel?

[@WaterFowler41]

Sometimes crutchfield is a little to conservative with their measurements.

[@kc44972]

@@WaterFowler41 THANKS . I purchase my 2021 ram rebel about a week now. I appreciate your videos. I would love to do the same up grades as you did. That is stereo system and exhaust system.

[@elranchotexmex]

What is the final ohms in front speakers .

[@WaterFowler41]

I believe all the references i installed are 4 ohm

[@billymccormick4194]

I just caught the fact that your ANC unit is silver and has 2 plugs (I guess). Mine is black and has 3. According to PAC site, mine is actually an amplifier, not just ANC. But, it's not an Alpine or Harmon Kardon system. No wonder I can't make complete sense of the adapter. Gonna call their tech support...

[@WaterFowler41]

By chance do you have a v6?

[@WaterFowler41]

If you have a v6 it’s very likely you do not have ANC and it’ll be just an amp.

[@billymccormick4194]

Come to find out, its an Alpine amp. Doesn't say Alpine on it, and I don't have a factory sub. But the pic is identical. I bought a similar adapter from PAC, and about to go see what happens. Should work fine.

[@billymccormick4194]

No. I have a 5.7 Hemi

[@billymccormick4194]

Through trial and error, I have discovered that I DO have a factory sub! I have no idea how to access it, being that I have a Quadcab, and can't get to the release cords. Other than that, still trying to figure these adapters... 🤔😠😔

[@kelvin1653]

The lc7 should have recognized a signal from the head unit and made it own remote wire

[@WaterFowler41]

It was but it also was doing it every time I opened my doors so rather than letting it cycle on and off, I just went with an old school turn on lead from the fuse box

[@kelvin1653]

@@WaterFowler41 My bad I believe you said that in the video. At what volume number are you clipping?

[@everydaydad3054]

Couldn’t you have just used the AmpPRO AP4-CH41(R.2) instead of the LOC and the ANC CH01?

[@WaterFowler41]

I already had the loc so it was cheaper/easier to pick up the ch01

[@everydaydad3054]

Water Fowler 41 I’m trying to learn how to upgrade my 2016 ram with the six speaker and it seems like if you’re starting from scratch the ampPRO is the way to go. Thanks for this video though. Excellent and very informative

[@everydaydad3054]

Water Fowler 41 one more quick question for you, is it worth running new speaker wire to each speaker or is the factory wire sufficient?

[@WaterFowler41]

I’ve used this same amp/speaker set up across 3 trucks and never had an issue with factory wiring. The audio purists might but for my application, OEM works. It’s a lot of effort to run new wires to each speaker, the juice needs to be worth the squeeze for me.

[@everydaydad3054]

Richard Mc thanks, figured I’d try it out first and see I notice anything to make it worth running the new speaker wire.

[@xXxMacdrizzyxXx]

Anyone know where my ANC box is. It’s not under my seats. I have a 2020 1500 warlock

[@WaterFowler41]

These instructions are for the newer Rams not the older models

[@xXxMacdrizzyxXx]

No for sure. I just can’t find anything that tells me where it is on my 2020 1500

[@valencianojr]

When using the GTO option, run the speaker wire coming from the 22 pin white plug to the main output for the lc7i. **DO NOT USE THE BLACK 16 PLUG FOR THE GTO OPTION AS YOU WILL BLOW YOUR STERO BEHIND THE DASH****

[@WaterFowler41]

What would running that wire to the main output of the lc7 do?

[@valencianojr]

@@WaterFowler41 it eliminates the need for a remote signal, it reads the signal off the speaker wire to turn the lc7i on

[@WaterFowler41]

Ok I ended up turning off gto and ran the turn on lead

[@donearl6675]

😍👍❗

[@Jorgeflores-uw3uy]

I have a 19 ram 1500 big horn not alpine and I just got my anc-cho1 and can some one send me pictures how to hook it up please don’t wanna mess nothing up and thank you

[@WaterFowler41]

It should be pretty straight forward, the plugs only fit one way. Are you having issues?

[@Jorgeflores-uw3uy]

I did everything like you did on your video but instead of a big amp I installed a alpine 4 channel for my regular speakers. It works, but when you shut the truck off and u restart it. None of the speaker will work, but the radio will keep playing.

[@WaterFowler41]

How are you turning the amp on? Did you use an add a fuse or let the amps auto sensing turn it on?

[@Jorgeflores-uw3uy]

@@WaterFowler41 yeah I used a add on fuse i have the 445 u alpine does that have the auto sensing?

[@mikhailkvartovskiy8288]

Can you send your ig name would like to know the siz on that box

[@WaterFowler41]

There’s a link to my Instagram in the video description

[@MTerkait]

these speakers are not a direct fit nor the correct size. 6x9 is the correct size and direct fit had to order again :|

[@WaterFowler41]

6.5 and 5.25 fit in 6x9 holes. Crutchfield adapters with the speakers. 100% bolt on. If you bought the speakers from somewhere else, you probably didn’t get the adapters.

[@MTerkait]

@@WaterFowler41 got the adapters but its not worth downgrading speaker sizes and not just buy the 6x9 directly..

[@menotyou7762]

add a 4 ohm resistor to your dash speakers. It will balance the power being sent. Door speakers stock are 4 ohm, dash speakers stock are 8 ohm. quess what happens with the extra 4 ohms of resistance when they are changed to a 4 ohm speaker? drives the dash speaker with more power.

[@WaterFowler41]

good to know!

[@arielgonzalez813]

Did you need load resistors before the LC7i?

[@WaterFowler41]

I ended up installing AudioControl AC-LGD 20 later on when I installed the 12” screen because I didn’t have enough load on the speakers and the head unit would go into safe mode.