Steroids in the Military | Special Operations Are Getting Tested for PEDs IMMEDIATLY!

[@timothyschroyer2939]

What are your thoughts on Creatine Mono Hydrate and other legal supplements?

[@GrittySoldier]

I’m 100% all for anything that is legal and doesn’t harm the body over the long-term. I use plenty of supplements to help give me an edge, I encourage responsible use of such supplements.

[@busixb]

Creatine is a natural supplement it’s obtained through eating red meat but is easily supplemented through creatine monohydrate.

[@travelinman482]

​@@GrittySoldier So, I guess that Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson isn't on steroids? If he is, how is he using them safely?

[@M3RD3RVBZ]

@@GrittySoldier Its proven that PED's are beneficial and harmless when it comes to specific cases when doctors are monitoring blood, liver, kidney levels, etc. Just look at people such as "burn victims." As long as it's for the "job" and not for Bodybuilding purposes, I'm good for it. Should the military look into/condone PED's once an individual has passes selection? I'm not saying required, but if those individuals who "made it" into higher tiers wanted to keep their edge, should they be given a pass? To me it makes sense if they're under "doctors care."

[@Rnx-lt9hw]

@@travelinman482I would gamble on it that at one time he did use steroids.

[@JessePaiz-ys7kr]

They should allow it. If it gives us the edge over our enemy, then let it be.

[@nickmullins2266]

How is this controversial in the slightest. The refer madness mindset of drugs has had a lot of detrimental effects on soldiers for decades.

[@bdd7881]

It's a double edged sword however. It can cause other medical issues and mental impacts. SOF's advantage in theater isn't just their sheer strength but in their mental abilities and training. They aren't just grunts who can do more pushups, they're typically intelligent with high emotional intelligence. PEDs will impact this in a negative way. Not worth the trade off.

[@nickmullins2266]

@@bdd7881 therapeutic doses of testosterone have proven to regulate mood and behavior. Low testosterone has negative impacts on emotional stability. Poor sleep nutrition and stress common conditions in a deployment all lower testosterone production at a time when soldiers need it the most. Anyone who disregards these facts is just ignorant of hormone function in the body and is clinging to the dare mentality despite all the evidence.

[@stalydude]

Shouldn’t the high calibre of training and the excellent mindset of an SOF operator give you the edge over the enemy ?

[@rafaelalodio5116]

But does it? 99% of the fight is made with guns, the rounds don’t make anyone bulletproof, and I don’t see how having to stick a needle on yourself everyday is an advantage, plus having the acne, the anxiety, higher blood pressure, and besides, being heavier probably makes you slower. I don’t know anything, I may be wrong, but I don’t see how that is an actual advantage. I guess the recovery time for injuries being faster is indeed an advantage though.

[@nickmullins2266]

Not only should the military not be trying to catch sof using gear they should be helping service members optimize their use.

[@swifty6687]

Dont you see the hipocrisy (sorry for my english) The most people will take steroids to make it to sof so its easier so lets say everyone would be informed to have the option to take gear By the Military The problem with that is theyre just gonna double the Fitness standards for selection which will be unfair against those who would refuse to take and is a hole without a ground

[@swifty6687]

*so you would have to push even harder while being on gear to the Point of where it would make no difference If you would be on gear or not like i said theyre gonna double the standards if they would allow gear use ^^

[@swifty6687]

I think after selection and after being a full member you should be able to to take gear because youre gonna Fight for the country and you u would benefit a war if you reach for example an outpost earlier and with more weight on you

[@clintvanderlinden7365]

Agreed. A better soldier is more lethal. The shit these guys do is highly taxing on the body. Roids and certain peptides can help with recovery and longevity.

[@Checkmate777]

@@swifty6687this is just my way of thinking but it also seems like it might give someone an edge that they wouldn’t otherwise have while not on steroids. Maybe they can compete only when they are on roids. And when they get off the roids they lose their mental fortitude. I just started the video so I don’t know what he says about this yet.

[@EuropaChronicles]

Gritty, the vast majority of SOF guys aren’t using steroids as an easier way to look better naked. The #1 benefit of steroids is enhanced recovery, which is what most guys in SOF badly need all the time. There’s no cheating in war. If PEDs give our guys an edge to win and come home, then they should be allowed to use them under doctor supervision.

[@DavidStaddler]

Problem with PEDS is that they increase muscle strength disproportionately to your ligaments and tendons strength. On PEDS your bone mass increases and lean body mass and strength as well, but your ligaments need a very long time to get stronger. you risk ripping a tendon or ligament clean off. I've seen it. cheers

[@EuropaChronicles]

@@DavidStaddler that’s true at high doses, but isn’t a factor with lower TRT-level doses.

[@Barnes-ml9wg]

​@user-ko7yk2ho1w depends on what PED you are using

[@jakerobles1669]

⁠@@DavidStaddlerthere’s ped that strengthen your ligaments and tendons

[@vanillagorillaextract8991]

@@DavidStaddler benefits greatly outweigh the anecdotal story, sorry kid

[@doom4067]

In 21 years I've never seen anyone tested for steroids. The standard test can't test for steroids.

[@vanillagorillaextract8991]

don't worry the government will spend your tax payer dollars to make sure they catch the criminals who take steroids...

[@Tim82ATW]

I did 14 years in the 82nd airborne division and gear (steroids) was very common and got past around like candy. Take care and feet and knees together!! "Strike Hold"

[@swifty6687]

Either everyone is allowed and inform about the probaility to take steroids or peds during Selection or nobody should be taking its not fair against others who dont knowabout it or refuse to take its just cheating

[@Tim82ATW]

@@swifty6687 I understand completely

[@CatharTV]

@@swifty6687the guys are natural in selection. Dudes don’t typically hop on until the get to the teams

[@chadthunderkawk1650]

Leave our service members TF alone. They need every edge they can get on the battlefield to come home alive. No judgement here.

[@BrickTemplar]

6:21

[@ragingpagan9565]

💯

[@MrCacarocha]

They should be allowed. I mean, their life is in the line.

[@PFMCDS]

Nah, if you miss an injection your quality of life drops dramatically and effects performance in the field.

[@BrickTemplar]

6:21 imagine stopping with steroids in the field/in captivity, you'll get an immediate performance drop

[@e.a.2393]

@@BrickTemplarthat’s not how it works. You usually inject twice a week for 8-12 weeks. I’m not saying I agree or disagree, but it’s possible to plan your cycles in accordance with military training. Also, if you miss a dose or a week, your body doesn’t just deflate. You still have so much testosterone in your body that you’ll be fine.

[@MrCacarocha]

That's exactly why it should be allowed, regulated, and carefully monitored. I mean, PEDs are here to stay and everybody and their mother are taking them.@@PFMCDS

[@vanillagorillaextract8991]

@@PFMCDS they have implants try again

[@runmyrace7241]

I don’t see anything wrong with our special operations being enhanced after BUDS or the other weeding out programs

[@stephenshw2262]

Exactly! Obviously if its cocaine or other hard drugs fair enough, but steroids should not have the same stigma attached to recreational drugs

[@BrickTemplar]

To my understanding, soldiers should learn how to operate under harsh conditions, such as lack of food or time to eat. Many drop muscle mass after field trainings, because they don't get enough calorie/protein intake. Imagine taking performance-enhancing drugs and being off them for weeks and months? I bet the performance will drop dramatically. No one needs that. It would be very hard on the body.

[@stephenshw2262]

@@BrickTemplar it takes around 12 months to lose all them gains. If you know how to cycle the drugs properly there should be no issues

[@hdog2967]

@@stephenshw2262I disagree, the health implications are pretty shocking and it sets a bad precedent I think personally

[@yusifalmayish]

@@stephenshw2262Mike Tyson used cocaine during fights. Think about what that could do for our soldiers on the front lines. Our enemy’s ears wouldn’t stand a chance.

[@Agui121]

SOF guys are always operating at such a high level stress and putting their bodies to such rigorous training and operations that our test drops dramatically vs an average person. There should be a study on that but they won’t because it cost too much. It will probably correlate with PTSD.

[@johndeluna692]

Yes. They can perform on a high level because of gear

[@seth3672]

My nephew retired at 23 from the 75th. His T was in the tank.

[@Guy_6397]

I never understood the penalisation of PED's in the Army. When I was in the British Army, our airborne brigade was randomly steroid tested and 16 guys immediately lost their jobs/career. The reason PED's are banned in the Olympics is because it's unnatural, and thus it's cheating. Warfare isn't a race, it's life and death, if you're able to maximise your abilities and thus increase the chance of survival, why not? I do appreciate that habitual steroid usage is bad for your health and shouldn't be done. But for units that are deployed frequently and are at high-readiness, I think steroid use should be allowed on an individually elected basis. SOF units, high-readiness and units preparing for deployment should be given carte blanche to do whatever is necessary to be at optimum performance when entering the warzone. I'd rather juice up and survive then fight fair and die.

[@Tovashi]

I agree with you, Gritty. At the end of the day it's a risky choice. If they personally decide to take that risk. That's on them.

[@acourierofourhopesandaamer8303]

@6:42 he said you can supplement with natural things Testosterone is back on the menu boys lmao 🎉

[@rob5598]

So stupid. "Stay natty. Gotta be fair when killing the enemy"🙄

[@ClydeSherburger]

Do you propose the US military comes up with a dedicated system of having readily available supplies of PEDS for roidheads in an active warzone? Forget food, water, rations, ammo and medicine lets make sure our PED users dont get gyno and lose their gains while theyre outside the wire! -_-

[@nookied3735]

Exactly. Virtue signaling all the way to the grave.

[@JordanOutWest]

Thats stupid outlook as well. Too many variables on either side for this to even make sense. It would be worse overtime for soldiers to be on PEDs in war.

[@KidMangaX]

US Military: You're on hormones? You're fired. US: Military: You're a crossdresser? Alright, we'll pay for your hormones.

[@nookied3735]

Exactly. The hypocrisy is palpable.

[@MWDJR173]

BEN SHAPIRO: FACTS, Don’t Care About Your Feelings. 100% Truth. 💯

[@ethicalcheeze1407]

I want anyone here to explain to me - at length, in detail - precisely how giving a soldier gender affirming hormones will "cause issues" or affect readiness in any way shape or form that isn't just hurting your tiny baby bitch boy feelings. I'm all ears Jack.

[@BoxheadHakx]

​@ethicalcheeze1407 wtf dude do you understand anything being discussed here below a surface level?

[@Driz777]

😂😂😂

[@HLGToys]

I never understand why no one wants to invest in making steroids safer and healthy. The majority abuse them and they don't have the clearest idea how to use them. If proper cycling is used it does provide an edge and you still need to put in effort. The mindset of "I'm proud being natty" is a pointless argument to make especially in combat. When you're in combat, you need to outperform the enemy physically; it's not about being prideful, it's about survival. Imagine the enemy taking steroids and they kill you by outperforming you; at least you died being natty. War is not about being fair. Hell the DoD forced everyone to get the COVID vaccination that was supposed to be FDA approved which it wasn't, and now there is an increased of health issues because of these mandated vaccinations.

[@vanillagorillaextract8991]

why would Big Pharma want the vast majority to be healthy and fit? Big Pharma can sell you all the snake oil cures and pills for a reasonable price

[@filippaoronto3880]

I totally agree with you. Plus keep in mind that ,due to the food pollution with chemicals that resemble female hormones , men natural testosterone has droppe significantly over the decades following WW2. And the quality of Steroids, in terms of chemical purity, is not always the best. It should be optimized in every aspect as it helps alot.

[@jakeschantz9081]

I use to weigh 250 and I had the mindset that I wanted to lose weight without cheating so I started rucksacking as a extracurricular exercise and I am down to 220 lb and still dropping weight I do 10 miles of rucking per session 3 times a week.

[@GrittySoldier]

Legit. Glad to see it!

[@sneed777]

Rucksacking

[@jessetorres4319]

I completely agree with everything gritty said except for one statement. I don’t think that tactical athletes using steroids is “cheating”. I agree they shouldn’t be using that at all. However, I’m not understanding how doping is cheating as far as war fighting functions. I thought we want our forces to always have the upper hand and advantage. The tactical Athlete isn’t competing in a sport where fairness matters like in the Olympics. I don’t think saying it’s cheating enhances the argument

[@ClydeSherburger]

Being on roids during a war is not an advantage. Just the same as being a meth or heroin addict during wartime is not an advantage. Its unhealthy for your body and messes with your hormones in your body and brain. Also if we are in a near peer conflict i high doubt PEDS will be freely available for any practicing roiders in the military and youre gonna have moody fat deflated service members with gyno that dont have access to their drugs

[@Untilitisnot]

Fairness absolutely matters. Without discipline we are simply a well armed mob. Also, if a soldier or other service member utilizes gear and is chosen over another service member in a selection process, then turn around and the selected soldier breaks their hip because of the degenerative affects of that drug. Not only have you cheated the member who was competing for that position on the special operations, you’ve also cheated our special operations of a much needed squad member. Hindering our operational readiness

[@ClydeSherburger]

@@Untilitisnot you hit the nail on the head.

[@mogged1181]

@@Untilitisnotwholeheartedly disagree

[@swifty6687]

Because during SOF selection its not fair against other candidats

[@pedro6169]

If I was facing terrorists hopped up on pain killers and adrenaline, I’d be taking steroids too.

[@Gottrolledbythebest485]

Bruh …

[@WilliamWallaceArmy]

Hooah! I agree. I appreciate you being honest with us and sharing your opinion!👌 thanks for being such a trustworthy channel, God bless!💪

[@Hurinthings]

What about prescribed TRT? Guys do suffer from low test which drops lower than “natural” levels. Especially with massive sleep and food deprivation imposed upon them within their units and missions. Thoughts?

[@doom4067]

They theoretically check medical records if someone comes up positive.

[@theruggedscholar1544]

If a civilian physician prescribed you testosterone, SARMS, Anavar, et cetera, the military cannot take disciplinary action.

[@luxurybuzz3681]

The constant cardio also tanks T.

[@Journey_of_Abundance]

This guy has totally irrational takes against exogenous hormones. I'm sure his take on TRT would be no different

[@michaelblout4752]

The DOD cares about readiness… we can’t recruit, the military has lost its “politically agnostic” status, the recruits that are coming in are objectively weaker than previous generations… and a PED dragnet is the answer? I agree further study into the usage of “gear” should occur, also agree there are many negative side effects. The same could be said of other drugs pushed/available to military members (too many to name). It doesn’t make since, almost like ever effort coming out of the DOD is aimed at making itself less marketable. Results speak for themselves, what we’re doing is not working… Love this country, love our military… always hopeful that our current woes can be turned around.

[@ChristianXavier-h3e]

Statistically the recruits may be weaker, largely in part because the government was pushing for more intense PT sessions in schools a few years back and kids in general were more active. The vast majority of young recruits(17-19) are usually still around as strong as they were a few years ago though. Easily maxing the ACFT and probably even APFT if it was still around.

[@GodfreyFirstEldenLord]

The ppl in the comment section must not know that you can still take roids in the army. From what I’ve seen it ranges between uncommon to common. It don’t matter if they don’t allow it, it ain’t gonna stop someone who barely sleeps 4 hours a day, works out all day long, eats shitty foods and take other drugs all the time so why would they stop at steroids?

[@christopherthornborrow3851]

Look at the damage that SOF guys have done to their body. Most of that is something you can’t do without using PEDs. Pretty disappointed with Army “influencers” as of late, and the lack of understanding displayed in this video goes right to the top with the others. One thing I agree with you strongly on, they will be finding a significant majority of the special operations community is using gear. This testing will likely fall off the map when the come to the conclusion that you can’t kick out every SOF guy on gear. They wouldn’t be mission capable. It’s definitely a dangerous game to play with your hormones, but it CAN be done safely. There’s no reason for these communities to be tested on PEDs and to insinuate that “cheating” is a justifiable reason is laughable.

[@africanfitnessconcept]

You probably know it all, you're smarter and richer than the US military. If you think that letting soldiers die prematurely by using drugs without even being in combat is a good idea you're probably on drugs yourself. PED affects people mentally, they multiply everything including your mental traumas. At the end of the day, the army owns you and they don't want to make a bad investments. People fought wars throughout history without PED and they performed well. The biggest problem in SOF is mental health not physical fitness.

[@ChristianXavier-h3e]

@@africanfitnessconcept You're assuming that all steroids are the generic tren, etc. You can cycle on testosterone with very few health consequences, this is why a lot of golden age bodybuilders are still alive and healthy in their 60s+.

[@clayton2500]

Hey gritty I was recently diagnosed with hypogonadism and perscribed trt. I was doing everything I could to raise my testosterone. I was eating 7 clean meals a day. Never missing a workout etc. I’ve been training a total of 7-8yrs and got to 5’11 205lbs pretty lean naturally. My total test came in at 285 and I’m 22. I just took my first trt shot today. But I was struggling with low test symptoms for 10+yrs. When I was going through middle school, high school and now college I have been in chronic pain, had no sex drive, erectile dysfunction, depression, extremely easily injured etc. I don’t consider my self cheating because all my trt is doing is getting me into the normal range. I do think there is a place for testosterone usage in cases like my own. I mean only if you had true low t and felt all the misery that comes with it, only then can you understand. It brought me to seriously considering ending my life multiple times.

[@GrittySoldier]

Good! TRT is not steroids.

[@clayton2500]

@@GrittySoldier It is it’s just less of a dose.

[@homeslice4551]

​@@clayton2500testosterone is a sterioid, TRT is a lower dose vs blasting supraphysiological doses

[@theruggedscholar1544]

@@homeslice4551 You are correct!!!

[@theruggedscholar1544]

@@clayton2500 It is not the "abuse" of steroids.

[@militarymastery2]

TRT is something the military should be giving to soldiers with low T 1000%

[@codyhilsen2365]

They do. I know guys who get it prescribed because of low T.

[@Journey_of_Abundance]

​@@codyhilsen2365 you have to go to a private doctor and pay out of pocket. Tricare is not going to pay for TRT for the majority of men who need it, and even if they do they aren't going to get proper dosages

[@b_to_the_b]

A persons Diet is the best way to become and stay Stronger

[@yeshrs]

Everyone that is not supportive of this push for testing, please email your congressman and senators about this. It may not be much but its more than doing nothing about this.

[@MillerTimeFitness]

BUDs candidate dies during training, and then they find bottles in his pickup.... I believe HGH. Questions remain if those bottles were prescribed or not. Politicians and brass lose their ever living minds, Operators get tested. Women decide that they want to become a man, they get similar PEDs via HRT/TRT, no deployments nor PT tests and cheered as heroes. HRT and TRT have actually been shown to be beneficial with proper credentialed medical supervision, like an endocrinologist, in conjunction with proper lifestyle changes. Typically, this approach includes monthly to quarterly labs, and then follow ups with the credentialed medical providers for males who's T-level are below 300 nd/dL, and in most case around age 35 or older... This typically is the right about the administrative and senior leader roles, and preretirement, for AD, Guard, and Reserves components. If anything, given the ACFT scoring for those in their 20's versus 40's, as part of the annual PHA there should be Tlevel testing in conjunction with the metabolic panels in the later career years. Anecdotal, but if Lyle Alzado hadn't been using dirty needles nor had a higher cancer risk factor then the very same politicians wouldn't have lost their minds back in the 1980s. Anecdotal, secondary, it was interesting when I had a similar conversation with my VHA PCP informing that I like being male then asking if it would be easier to get HRT for female hormones or TRT to help with trying to stave off the 45-year-old body aches and pains... Two second pause, then he ordered the TLevel labs then informed that a specialist would handle the TRT, if indicated... And, you guessed it, 400 nd/dL lab results.

[@taylormetzger6137]

I get the “DOD said don’t use them so you can’t” argument but you clearly down have knowledge enough to speak on the health side effects of these substances. If you had done sufficient research you’d fine you can quite safely use them after all. And you can keep 100% of the gains

[@JeoJetsonmusic]

The military should be investing in improving the efficacy and safety of steroids

[@josephbutros8526]

Brother keep these informational Videos going! They are great? And looking back, they seem to be getting a lot of likes

[@Gottrolledbythebest485]

Imagine getting so triggered over steroid harm effects like the people in the comments .

[@M0stlym3answ3ll]

Nothing like Tren and PTSD to bring out the scariest possible behavior, in a trained killer..

[@jasonbailey9302]

We did them at Camp Greaves Korea as young Infantrymen because you could have a Korean get them at the Pharmacy.

[@luxurybuzz3681]

Thats against US Korea starus of forces agreement.

[@deismoday]

PEDs should be used in the military WITH MEDICAL SUPERVISION. Steroid's main benefit is muscle recovery, which allows dudes to work out a lot more frequently than dudes who are all natural. This becomes a lot more beneficial with age. But the side effects leave dudes on PEDs with shorter lifespans. Also, ligaments don't keep up with major muscle groups and are prone to tearing, which means dudes on PEDs will have more joint problems than those who are not. Also, heart problems are a major issue and is often a factor in the shorter lifespan of dudes on PEDs. Not to mention the other hormonal side effects such as hair loss on head, acne, development of breasts, shrinkage of balls, and the wide mood swings that would lead to more criminal problems for the force. Hence the medical supervision is a requirement.

[@NigelEharis]

Grabbing popcorn for this one

[@highchamp1]

Army food and MREs... Field training... Performance Enhancing!

[@GrittySoldier]

Fuck yeah 🫡

[@t.c.777]

I was always curious about this. During selection pipelines sure it’s suppose to be all you “naturally!” After that just be safe.

[@alihasanaxe4936]

I absolutely understand the pov some people have that being bigger and stronger is a boon in battle and therefore should be allowed, but those people entirely miss the point here. What happens when your "super soldiers" lose access to their gear on missions? What happens when the drug use causes a soldier to tear a tendon or otherwise fuck up his connective tissue because he was made blind to his own condition? Steroids are a net negative. Yes you get strong soldiers, but it makes them _unreliable_ .

[@ethicalcheeze1407]

It's the same reason they don't let soldiers use heroin. Yeah, it feels good and will relax you, but it comes at the detriment of literally everything else.

[@tappaiden]

I replied to another comment like this, but tearing of a tendon or any other sort of sports injury typically related to steroids is usually because of the compounds, nutrition, hydration, and most importantly the training of the individual. A SOF guy isn’t going to tear a pec out of nowhere because he’s on gear, a torn pec is because some dude decided he was ready for a 500lb bench press and his body wasn’t. On the reliability of soldiers in the field, that’s really just a matter of coordinating the joes to not be blasting while on an FTX or mission. Steroid administration is at most a biweekly thing if done responsibly, and that’s during what’s called a blast, which wouldn’t make any sense in the field anyway because there’s not enough calories nor PT to support muscle growth. Even so, I don’t think the mission would be compromised by dudes carrying a vial of test, a couple antiseptic wipes, and a needle kit in their ruck. If anything, by having a stabilized and scheduled hormone profile while on deployment, there might a reduction in cases of depression and/or self harm, because oftentimes hormonal imbalance by lack of testosterone is what causes depression in men.

[@ChristianXavier-h3e]

@@tappaiden Hopping off a cycle also wouldn't cause nearly as many problems as people seem to imply. There'd be strength loss, but most of the strength gains would still be there.

[@itsdoge4845]

Dude thinks war is followed by a rule book 24/7. If you're not cheating then you're not trying.

[@andrewhickey6158]

Sounds like you talking about Nick Barre when talking about the geared up fitness influencers. I find it strange he also doesn’t let anyone to follow his strava account.

[@Rnx-lt9hw]

Love your videos! Getting ready for some cool weather in Florida and I’ll be doing your fartlek idea to get my pace down. Thanks!

[@HeyMikeyLikesIt2]

I’m a believer that special ops should be on performance enhancing substances. They should be monitored and only when you’re in a permanent unit. Not in Training units like SWC…I’ve seen students drop dead, and you go to their room and they have a mini GNC station. You can take cell regeneration supplements.

[@NigelEharis]

Armed service personnel should absolutely be allowed to use. Especially combat arms.

[@HVYBOY]

Pretty hard to follow when someone has such a solid stance against a topic that they’re pretty ignorant around. Not to mention how laughable it is to hear someone pointing out the negatives surrounding a topic while regularly enjoying alcohol.. anyway, I have a feeling there won’t be as much blow back as some people think, after all TRT/HRT is prescribed regularly.

[@GrittySoldier]

Testosterone therapy and shorting anabolic are two totally different things, for anyone that reads this, it’s important to understand the difference.

[@HVYBOY]

@@GrittySoldier absolutely, and that furthers my point -Call it intuition, but most GBs aren’t out here smashing Dbol and Tren.

[@TevynSmith]

You don’t think other countries special forces aren’t doing it?? We’re at a disadvantage

[@namesjetskii9207]

I’ve legit seen the command side with gear.

[@Journey_of_Abundance]

Good

[@thewanderer6542]

I'm only a recently enlisted Guard guy (11B), but, at least on paper, I would imagine giving soldiers any advantage we can over the enemy, especially a potential adversery like China, who has zero qualms around PED use, would be ideal? Especially for SOF operators, and especially at the tier one level where the op-tempo is absolutely ridiculous. The main issue I forsee would be the fact that the stigma around PED's is such that there haven't been any long term studies (that I'm aware of) on their effectiveness and long-term side-effects in a way that would allow us to innovate in producing compounds that are safer and have better overall long-term viability. As well, the logistics of getting them to a combat zone, and administering them. Just my 0.02, so take it for what you will.

[@jonathanabrego18]

@grittysoldier do you know tim the tool man. You both have similar mannerisms. Thank you for your service.

[@iearnjohn]

it should be allowed.

[@lmclrain]

so true, not worth it in the long term being strong involves more than gaining muscle, specially if that muscle is unbalanced since there is lots of chemical interactions involved

[@thomasfeehan6511]

Are they testing for peds so we know who to give a raise to

[@travispembridge5401]

I’m assuming this is because of the healthcare and potential coverage soldiers can receive when out? Almost like voiding a warranty by tampering with a product? Otherwise I say let the warriors be fing warriors.

[@spedmonie416]

this might a reason im sure there are a handful of abusers that are borderline organ failure from toxic oral steroids or Injectable peds/peptides

[@travispembridge5401]

@@spedmonie416yeah after watching the video I think a little bit differently. I’ve never done them personally. But I really didn’t know how harmful they were either way. I do know some of my bros that have messed around with them though.

[@spedmonie416]

@@travispembridge5401 I would argue bct or boot camp whatever you guys call it is worst than peds losing both fat and muscle with almost no recover red lining your body with no chance to recover is definitely worst than responsible ped use i truly believe steroids should be overlooked as they have been for decades already

[@BrickTemplar]

6:21

[@spedmonie416]

@@BrickTemplar this is a weak argument for many reasons 1 why would they stop taking them while their enlisted or active duty 2 no one just says I’m gonna inject myself one time and quit for the rest of my life 3 depending what you took it might have no negative impact to your strength. At the end of the day this video was just supposed to be a “drugs are bad mkay” video to deter people from beginning to use them

[@Snoopy1997Joshua]

When I was in, I was all natural and did completely fine...can you do a video on how to keep mentally in check? How to stay mentally strong when in growth process.

[@aaronfana9898]

Well, the SOF/SF community is going downhill is they start tracking down on gear. You ask superhuman performance out of individuals but want them to achieve it naturally?? That doesn’t work.

[@ethicalcheeze1407]

Field training, physical exercise, professional development, good nutrition, books. The only things you need to be a better soldier.

[@bdd7881]

The idea that SOF's only advantage is their physical ability is wrong. The impacts from PEDs extend beyond just physical strength and that is where the danger lies. Even with medical oversight it can become a problem very quickly. Starting PEDs after screening/selection is also an issue because you selected this person and now you're altering them in such a way that it can completely change the person in attitude and abilities to where they are no longer a match and create tension in the group, blowing hundred of thousands of dollars.

[@balt3562]

From my understanding a lot of PEDs being taken these day are to shorten recovery between workouts or personal injuries. realistically speaking a lot of army jobs are very high intensity, and I think maybe it's a response to the notion that being on profile is negatively seen.

[@NigelEharis]

Lots of people here don’t understand AAS

[@drofnats1962]

Interesting, thanks very much.

[@RS7evenSLDR]

Yea I’m sure their UAs are “random” 😂

[@KINGRODP]

The negative health effects? What about the stuff that gets injected into our service members that gives them problems later?

[@gmemo4449]

Thank you!

[@erics7226]

Good. We don't want them getting an unfair advantage

[@travisscott5422]

A lot of dudes are avoiding the street steroids by going to some doctor (a "doc in the box" who gives you want) and getting on prescription T. No dirty batches and medically controlled so dudes have a lower chance of blowing out their kidneys. I can imagine that's going to be a bigger thing in those fields if the DoD wants to maintain the expensive steroid tests.

[@PuddinTane4u2]

The steroids people think of made famous by body builders and athletes alike, don’t “make you stronger” they help in recovery. If you could only train a muscle group once a week naturally, PEDs will help you recover faster where you could train that muscle group twice, maybe three times. Yes large amounts of PEDs wil grow your heart, the heart after all is a muscle. Like so many others have said, the DOD should be bringing in civilian Drs to help our fighting force safely use PEDs to help with their recovery. And also bring in STEM treatments and CBD/CBN to aid in recovery.

[@jakerobles1669]

Goodbye to most operators over 30

[@KINGRODP]

Steroids should be allowed in SOF. Period.

[@cryptoerzengel1398]

SARMS are not illegal, regardless, operators should be allowed to use PEDs - Don't ask, don't tell ;-)

[@itsdoge4845]

Oh. He's one of those officers...

[@kentuckyman42069.]

Hey gritty does any of the supplements in your old video cause you to pop hot on any tests

[@GrittySoldier]

Absolutely not. I’m talking about anabolic steroids in this video, the ILLEGAL kind.

[@kentuckyman42069.]

@@GrittySoldier I got you thank you I'm new to fitness and the army and didn't know if the supplements would affect that or not. Love your work!

[@7266jp]

I love what you said and I agree 100%! I’ve read some of the comments here with people trying to justify their use. It’s cheating plain and simple. Use what God gave you and if that’s not enough then so be it. So many of these fitness influencers lifting ridiculous amounts of weight on KZbin are confusing many young people that they should be doing weight like that after following the programs set forth by these influencers. False expectations and it’s all about money for them. Never cheat do it the right way.

[@GrittySoldier]

Thank you and I appreciate it. Honestly, I’m a little disappointed with some of the comments on this video…

[@EuropaChronicles]

There’s no such thing as “cheating” in war. We aren’t talking about professional athletes, we’re talking about warriors whose job it is to be faster, stronger, and more resilient than the enemy.

[@NeoForsyth]

@@EuropaChronicles the process is to test you, you're trying to cheat the process.

[@killakev9589]

why test, SOF guys should have all the edge...

[@lusmith39]

Just going to the gym with my boys, the use of it is apparent. Myself have always been against the use of them.

[@GrittySoldier]

🤜 🤛

[@Cleared_hot]

Unfortunately, steroids change your body a lot. I did them and around 35-40 ish the repercussions show up. Don’t ruin your body Your body never goes back to exactly how it was.

[@russream3732]

If only,…winning a war,…was about drugs, technological advantage and an Air Force.

[@theonereborn9299]

Whats the story behind PV2 Rock behind you? Haha

[@sal9523]

What about using an off post medicine prescriptions? Like trt, enclomiphene, and HCG? Thanks

[@Lowpropo]

Military should have a steroid soldier program, that would be cool like warhammer 40k spacemarines. 😎

[@rohnek2]

Steroids are awesome. I hate to say it. If you feel bad about yourself, if you feel depressed and anxious, hop on a cycle and hit the gym hard and boom. Youre going to be so confident in yourself. Cruise TRT or dont but you can easily keep gains and feel great. Hate to say it but they actually are awesome

[@grownmantravels]

The reason why they don’t want the military taking steroids or PEDs, is to strategically make them docile and subservient

[@ethicalcheeze1407]

This is the stupidest thing I've seen in a while. Congrats on the brain tumor bro.

[@Gottrolledbythebest485]

Can’t smoke weed but can take gear 🤣

[@seth3672]

Is the logic here that we as the US Military can claim that our operators are "natural"? This isn't the NFL, MLB or Instagram! And you're talking about negative side effects? Show of hands from anyone with any side effects from simply serving in these groups? How's your hearing? Knees? Had your testosterone tested lately? I agree with you to an extent on the use of anabolics. But our entire military should have access to the latest tech in peptides and sarms. I mean, we already give them the best tech in weaponry and gear, why not enhance and maintain their physical state and output? We're already cheating. We're cheating because we have the naval tech. The aircraft tech. The comms tech. The weaponry tech. The optics tech. Etc.

[@GrittySoldier]

Brother I have to say this. You lost me when you asked about other negative side effects from serving. Honestly, it’s confirmation bias’s like that which are part of the problem. That is like saying, “what’s wrong me smoking? My grandma is still a smoker and she’s 80… “ I don’t think you should justify one negative thing with another negative thing.

[@seth3672]

@@GrittySoldier No. No confirmation bias. I don't agree with using full blown anabolics to get bigger. But there are a few that help maintain muscle mass. The side effects you discussed are aesthetic or short term at best, the worst being the disruption of natural T production, which if you read your comments, is already an issue. My nephew came out of 2/75 with a host of issues which I listed, there are more, the most important to us as men, low T. He was 23 when he discharged in 2021. The rest of my rant was about how we should be giving these guys access to the latest tech in peptides and tested SARMs. Why wouldn't we? Is there something noble in telling the next of kin "at least they died natural and without side effects?"

[@ChristianXavier-h3e]

@@seth3672 The army is starting to hand out peptides more often.

[@austinshannon4197]

I’ve always thought steroids were overrated. Seriosuly. It’s about the will to win not steroids. Barry bonds took steroids and it didn’t even pay off because he never won even atleast 1 World Series so where was his extra edge? As an armed forceman if you have the will to keep pushing forward you’ll come in first.

[@kaipo8489]

All lawrnforcement should be tested and I'll bet you took it to

[@nickh6684]

When I was in sof everything was a go as long as you were there when the battle horn called.

[@theruggedscholar1544]

If the troop receives prescriptions from a Testosterone Replacement Therapy clinic, the military cannot do anything to the troop! Getting a prescription from a Testosterone Replacement Therapy clinic is not difficult. I'm not condoning the abuse of anabolic steroids.

[@ToDaMn]

Someone must of opened their mouth... I see the ability to aid in recovery is its greatest benefit. But muscle and strength not the greatest asset. Vo2 rucking and being able to perform all day, day after day are the most valuable assets. Look at those Vietnam SoF guy's

[@Itallaboutwatithink]

I know a Special Forces soldier who was on it. Lost his mind while in a foreign country. It took 6 police officers to handle him. In the US, they would have shot him. When the Commander found out the whole story, he said we are not spending money or sources for that. He did 4 months in that country (luckily, he knew the language). Comes back - tab off. No award, no goodbye. Back to the regular Army for the next 4 years for retirement eligibility.

[@GrittySoldier]

Damn 😬

[@Itallaboutwatithink]

@GrittySoldier Yep went from disturbing the peace to assault (Little Hulk punched the female police- who was initially trying to detain him).

[@christopherthornborrow3851]

@@Itallaboutwatithinkare you insinuating that his actions were the result of PED use?

[@Itallaboutwatithink]

@christopherthornborrow3851 Indeed. One doesn't grow as fast as he did in a 3 month deployment. He had a mood swing episode.

[@ChowhallmsqdcUSMC]

What about testosterone therapy . To use 150%

[@ZTheLastViking]

Who had that idea the CCP? lol Thats ridiculous

[@nookied3735]

Another fine day in the land of the free.

[@jinn0013]

How do u know about GH? Jus sayin

[@GrittySoldier]

I’m a personal trainer, and I’ve been to the gym more than 5 times…

[@garrettsalmon8369]

I wonder what the they will do with all the service members who are on TRT and taking testosterone from a medical provider for hypogonadism so they can perform at peak performance? Just sayin….it’s like service members with hypothyroidism who have to take synthetic thyroid hormone. They’re quite a few….they would have to be clear about what would qualify as “steroid” level dosing and levels. I’m ok with TRT if it’s medically needed, but not excessive to where service members are taking who don’t need it.

[@erikmielke9008]

no person who deserves respect would use steroids, it is not worth becoming emotionally unstable, stupid and risking your health for a few kilos of muscle and a little more strength, if you want them so much learn to program your training and take the difficult path of training hard and at the same time train intelligently and if you don't want to do it, you know you're not that good.

[@Journey_of_Abundance]

Low IQ, uninformed take

[@MCL198027]

Lol, I guarantee they're not testing people they like

[@MiguelBarragan-n4h]

I hope when Trump gets in office he stops this BS

[@monsterisland1702]

They just gotta say they're transitioning from a male to an alpha male

[@Gottrolledbythebest485]

Finally