Steve Cram 1985 - Weltklasse Zurich 800m & Dream Mile, Oslo

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tommytempo1

tommytempo1

Күн бұрын

Two fantastic races from Steve Cram in 1985 - 800m against Joaquim Cruz at the Weltklasse GP in Zurich and setting a new World Record of 3:46.32 in the Dream Mile at Oslo against a loaded field including Seb Coe, Jose Luis Gonzalez, Steve Scott, Sir John Walker, Abdi Bile... to name a few.
Commentators - David Coleman & Ron Pickering.
BBC Coverage.

Пікірлер: 86
@ericgeorge5483
@ericgeorge5483 8 жыл бұрын
85 was an astonishing year for Steve Cram, he looked almost invincible and wiped the floor with pretty much everyone as demonstrated here.
@stewartwest347
@stewartwest347 8 ай бұрын
Cram in '85 was the best in the world.
@alanworrall8485
@alanworrall8485 3 жыл бұрын
Cram had an unbelievable season in 1985. 3 world records and victory here over the Olympic champion Joachim Cruz of Brazil.
@StewartJsR
@StewartJsR 9 жыл бұрын
Every time I watch this race, with the splits they had, I simply can not believe Cram ran 3.46 and smashed that WR. The shape he was in in 85/86 was a good as any middle distance runner EVER.
@Revolver1981
@Revolver1981 7 жыл бұрын
smooveXXX What the fuck happened to Coe? He looked average at best.
@simonsedwards1513
@simonsedwards1513 4 жыл бұрын
@@Revolver1981 COE WAS INJURED AND MISSED WEEK'S OF TRAINING JUST AFTER HE BEAT CRAM OVER 800 M !!!!!!!!!! TERRIBLE LUCK!!!!!! COE RAN 3:29 ,7 A YEAR AFTER THIS WAAAAAY PAST HIS BEST AND NEARLY 33 YEARS OLD !!!!!!!!!! COE WAS CAPABLE OF 3:44 /3:45 MILE!!!!!!!!!!! DEFINETLY
@carlpeterkirkebo2036
@carlpeterkirkebo2036 3 жыл бұрын
@@Revolver1981 Think he relaxed a bit at the end when he realized Cram was moving away. Coe's performance was in any case not "average". He ran 3:49.22, a time that April 2021 would qualify as number 36 on the all time list.
@simonedwards5564
@simonedwards5564 2 жыл бұрын
@@simonsedwards1513 Sorry coe was 29years old nearly 30 years old and running his best,@1500m ever !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@stoolpigeon4285
@stoolpigeon4285 7 ай бұрын
agreed
@JamieMonk
@JamieMonk 10 жыл бұрын
Bad luck for Cram there was no Olympics in 1985/86 - his best years for sure.
@ericgeorge5483
@ericgeorge5483 8 жыл бұрын
Absolutely correct. He was right on top of his game and looked pretty unbeatable that year.
@peterh1353
@peterh1353 Жыл бұрын
Cram was built on a computer for middle distance running. Just could run hard for any distance with a long stride. Came along in the Coe/Ovett prime and got well beat at first, but went faster than both of them in time. Big heart. His prime came between Olympics. The best runner never to be Olympic champion, although he was World Champion and that is as good.
@redd605
@redd605 6 жыл бұрын
the british middle distance from 1977-1986,at its peak,what a great decade
@paulwilliams8389
@paulwilliams8389 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. Never any doubt that a Brit was going to win the 1500m at a major championship in those days, it was just a question of which one.
@albionboy72
@albionboy72 8 жыл бұрын
Cram Coe and Ovett would beat anyone, and they did. If they were fit and well nobody could compete as Cruz saw here.
@bfc3057
@bfc3057 Ай бұрын
Your statement must be balanced by accepting that Cruz had endless achilles problems from 1984 through 85. He did a lot of his running in a swimming pool - not ideal
@TheHuxley76
@TheHuxley76 11 жыл бұрын
Cram was at his absolute peak in 85. Such a shame he never hit this type of form in the Olympics.
@ewaf88
@ewaf88 6 жыл бұрын
Calf syndrome - when the muscles get too big for the connecting tissue.
@neilshayler3119
@neilshayler3119 Жыл бұрын
GB dominated middle distance in that era Ovett, Coe and Cram were in a league on their own great to watch again
@ЭдгарГольцов
@ЭдгарГольцов 3 жыл бұрын
Крэм-единственный человек в мире ,пробежавший 800 м быстрее 1.43,а 1500 м быстрее 3.30,в течении одного сезона.
@jeffallinson8089
@jeffallinson8089 2 жыл бұрын
Cram on the form shown here was almost unbeatable; a class of his own really.
@phillylifer
@phillylifer Жыл бұрын
So grateful for these uploads. We all need to remeber how class this era was from top to bottom
@ivansanders8459
@ivansanders8459 7 жыл бұрын
Steve Cram was poetry in motion. For any athlete attempting to learn optimal running technique Steve is the man to study.
@simonedwards5564
@simonedwards5564 2 жыл бұрын
Crams fault in his running style was his splayed feet sticking out ,,head rolling all over the place and subsequent to that gave him very bad calf injuries !!!!!
@Daz555Daz
@Daz555Daz Жыл бұрын
​@@simonedwards5564 His head only rocked when he was hurting. He had undiagnosed compartment syndrome (diagnosed after he retired). He was already load balancing at this point of his career even though he was still young. If he'd been diagnosed and had surgery I think it fair to say he'd have been even better than he was. And he was all time great.
@markfox1545
@markfox1545 2 күн бұрын
Bizarre thing to say, he puts one leg in front of the other like everyone else.
@deano27671
@deano27671 12 жыл бұрын
Great quality video Tommy! Can't believe it's 27 years ago!! Btw, do you happen to have Wilson Kipketer's 1997 win in Monaco, 1:42.77? Cheers, Dean
@DrCrabfingers
@DrCrabfingers Жыл бұрын
For Brits this was the golden era of Athletics....in fact I'd say it was the golden area of middle distance running.
@TimboTravels
@TimboTravels 12 жыл бұрын
Great footage of the Jarrow Arrow thanks
@paulwilliams8389
@paulwilliams8389 2 жыл бұрын
Great memories of that Dream Mile - it came shortly after Said Aouita had broken the world 5000m record. Fantastic night of athletics, as always at Oslo in those days.
@redd605
@redd605 Жыл бұрын
The one disappointment is cram faced ovett and Coe in these golden/diamond league meeting but not Coe Vs ovett 1979 Coe was meant to race ovett at Zurich the race was live on BBC 1 I seem to remember when he broke the 1500 m world record.and over 3000 metres at crystal palace .I remember the radio time had both as there front cover. In the build up to it
@martynhanson
@martynhanson 2 жыл бұрын
The following year Cram clearly peaked at the Commonwealth and was not quite as sharp for the Europeans. He did look in the same form for the Commonwealth games as the above race.
@freestyle9368
@freestyle9368 7 жыл бұрын
51/51 split by Cram. If he had gone through in 50-mid he could have run under 1:42. Majestic.
@mathematics5573
@mathematics5573 5 жыл бұрын
Freestyle His 400m time was 50.6. He did go through in 50-mid. I heard Cram talking about this in 1997. He didn't think he could have run sub 1.42. He might have managed 1.42.5 or faster. He did say he could have run 3.26 for 1500m though, if he'd been running in the last 1990s. He'd have trained harder he said..
@sandcastlejim
@sandcastlejim 8 жыл бұрын
legend.
@cegtown
@cegtown 11 жыл бұрын
This is the best quality available of the races. Thanks for sharing.
@jimrockford1969
@jimrockford1969 Жыл бұрын
1.42.8 for Cram then carries on running to do a lap of honour without stopping!! I’d have been on the floor sucking in the big ones for 10 minutes! 😆
@LukeMorgan-ek4hx
@LukeMorgan-ek4hx Жыл бұрын
Cram peaked between Olympics games. Shame because he could have run three events in a championship games in 1985 and cleaned up.
@tommytempo1
@tommytempo1 Жыл бұрын
Three events at a Championships? 800m, 1500m and ?
@LukeMorgan-ek4hx
@LukeMorgan-ek4hx Жыл бұрын
@@tommytempo1 good point. No mile in championships.
@LukeMorgan-ek4hx
@LukeMorgan-ek4hx Жыл бұрын
Let's just say the 5000m
@APBCTechnique
@APBCTechnique 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely capable of running sub 1.42 and 3.28 that year of 85/86. Dam that Calve of his leg. 88 should have been his games
@mathematics5573
@mathematics5573 4 жыл бұрын
Actually I heard Cram once saying he thought sub 1.42 was beyond him, but he said he could have run 3.26 with harder training. . You need 46/45 400m speed to run sub 1.42. Crams 400m best was only 49. he wasn't a sprinter or 400m runner
@paulwilliams8389
@paulwilliams8389 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. The Cram of '85 would probably have won the double in Seoul but just unfortunate that his best two seasons '85 and '86 were in non Olympic/World Championship years.
@Alex-pr6zv
@Alex-pr6zv 5 ай бұрын
With the new super spikes, a Mondo track and altitude training, he had 3:26 in him for sure. Sub 1:42 I doubt though. He was quite amazed to run sub 1:43.
@jeffiles7953
@jeffiles7953 4 жыл бұрын
I never knew that Cram nailed a 1:42, thought he was 1500 and mile only.
@mathematics5573
@mathematics5573 4 жыл бұрын
yep and 2000m world record. Jakob ingebrigsten is hoping to break Crams time on Thursday. Crams former 2000m WR is the current European record.
@antoniobattisti1988
@antoniobattisti1988 4 жыл бұрын
It would be great to see his 1000 m race below 2:13 (2:12:88, if I am correct). One one the two runners of all times below 2:13 at that time...
@paulwilliams8389
@paulwilliams8389 2 жыл бұрын
Remember that race well - he briefly thought he had broken the world record because the clock froze at 2:12.00 before the .88 flashed up.
@PaulRoneClarke
@PaulRoneClarke 29 күн бұрын
He was interviewed immediately after. And asked if this ranked as one of his proudest moments. He said it do (of course) but he had just scored 27 runs for his local village cricket team a few days earlier and that that gave him a bigger buzz. It's amazing that so few people, even those you would think are living their dream life - are doing the exact thing they would want to be doing. So many sports starts love their sport - but when questioned wish they were playing a different one but they were not good enough.
@1964karlos
@1964karlos Ай бұрын
As many have said 1985 was Cram’s peak year, whereas Coe probably peaked in 1981, as did Ovett when the pair swapped world records on a regular basis.
@KhalidRoche
@KhalidRoche Жыл бұрын
Loved it!
@nicolrobertbaird
@nicolrobertbaird 12 жыл бұрын
Don't suppose you'd have Cram's last 100m time from the 800 race? According to someone on LRC his last 100 in the mile race was 12.9, but thought he may have been quicker in the 800 not least because he had, as coleman would say, "the big brazilian breathing down his neck" cheers
@fatbelly27
@fatbelly27 Жыл бұрын
Great run by Cram in the 800.
@richardwarren537
@richardwarren537 Жыл бұрын
These years were the best, then the Internet kicked in
@SweetJennyFan
@SweetJennyFan Ай бұрын
Were we Brits lucky in terms of middle distance running in the 80s or were we lucky ?
@jenscee7679
@jenscee7679 Жыл бұрын
As a Hebburn adopted native, it’s so refreshing to see him wearing the Jarrow and Hebburn AC vest. He is one of the all time greats, first man under 3:30 for the 1500 metres. Sports science was not a thing then, so imagine him now.
@ZeldaFitz
@ZeldaFitz Жыл бұрын
This race pretty much marked the end of what was a 6 year reign for British middle distance running for men, what a time to be alive.
@grahbinn
@grahbinn 2 жыл бұрын
The most common sentence on all of these videos must be “Johnny Grey, the American record holder”
@brenwalsh9232
@brenwalsh9232 22 күн бұрын
Cram in 1985 was off the charts brilliant..
@soulyrasheed
@soulyrasheed 6 жыл бұрын
53.1 last quarter... never reproduced in any WR race...
@mathematics5573
@mathematics5573 4 жыл бұрын
soulrasheed but the 3rd lap was slow at 60 seconds. if he'd run that 2 seconds faster, he'd have run 3.45/44 over all.
@SteveSmith-qf3sk
@SteveSmith-qf3sk Жыл бұрын
Amazing era for GB middle distance running
@ryanwilliams2764
@ryanwilliams2764 Ай бұрын
Pity there were no major championships in ‘85.
@DCollins195
@DCollins195 24 күн бұрын
Massive respect for the 'Jarrow Arrow'!
@redd605
@redd605 10 жыл бұрын
did seb coe beat cram early in 85,then got injured,and ran this weeks after.
@Revolver1981
@Revolver1981 7 жыл бұрын
anfeild8 That must be correct because Coe looked average here at best.
@backintobalance9542
@backintobalance9542 6 жыл бұрын
Yes Coe was either sick or injured coming back to form. Earlier in the year beat Cram in an 800m a few months before.
@thejoyofsoxmovie7211
@thejoyofsoxmovie7211 Жыл бұрын
I guess the announcer was fooled too.@@mathematics5573
@RalooRocker
@RalooRocker 4 ай бұрын
After a season of world-record record swapping between the Brits, would have predicted this British record would last 38 years! This was the end of an era. Love that the runners were wearing club vests on the world stage :-)
@kingcurry6594
@kingcurry6594 6 ай бұрын
That might be the best mile field in history. So many legends of middle distance running. Cram's misfortune was to be totally unbeatable in the space between Olympics.
@peterturnball8310
@peterturnball8310 8 ай бұрын
Britain's domination of middle distance running was incredible from the late 70s to the mid 80s. Coe and Ovett were a class above the rest, and then another world beater in Steve Cram comes along. There was also Peter Elliott and Tom McKean, who are often overlooked because they were merely world class rather than world beaters.
@stephenyates3085
@stephenyates3085 Ай бұрын
Poetry in motion!
@martynnotman3467
@martynnotman3467 Ай бұрын
I remember watcing this as a kid. Back in the days Athletics was prime time tv
@joemcm1
@joemcm1 5 ай бұрын
that 800 was one of crams finest-a v fast time and blew cruz away
@joemcm1
@joemcm1 20 күн бұрын
a 1985 cram might have beaten a 1978 ovett over 1500m....but i dont really think so
@chrismac2234
@chrismac2234 4 ай бұрын
The Rolls Royce of runners.
@tommytempo1
@tommytempo1 4 ай бұрын
One of the British Big Three.
@adamd4390
@adamd4390 6 жыл бұрын
Great reception
@AudreySmallcombe
@AudreySmallcombe Ай бұрын
Still get goose pimples watching this!
@Andrew-m5p4s
@Andrew-m5p4s 11 ай бұрын
Untouchable in 1985
@chrispalin6786
@chrispalin6786 Жыл бұрын
Absolute class Steve Cram.
@GeoAce777
@GeoAce777 Жыл бұрын
Cram was in Cruz control 😗🕹️🇬🇧
@tommytempo1
@tommytempo1 Жыл бұрын
The old one's are the best!
@inmanmark
@inmanmark 12 жыл бұрын
Great race!! Maybe best ever. Too bad it should have been called back at the start.
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