Steve Vai's Collaboration With Ozzy: Why It Didn't Work!

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@karsguitarchannel6088
@karsguitarchannel6088 2 ай бұрын
Hey guys , check out my awesome video on how Steve Vai became a millionaire - kzbin.info/www/bejne/nGnMfICpeZuCecUsi=FYXagKT9JqW2L4Tb!
@Theloaner43
@Theloaner43 2 ай бұрын
Yea, When Vai was worken with Zappa, Frank smartened him up real good about the recording business, and how not to get screwed. Sharon likely realised they couldnt do to Steve what they did to most everyone else they employed.
@clayton5584
@clayton5584 2 ай бұрын
Exactly
@3lullabies
@3lullabies 2 ай бұрын
Vai is better off not having played with Sharon's puppet.
@robbiegarnz7732
@robbiegarnz7732 2 ай бұрын
I agree! Ozzy needs to have his man card confiscated!!!
@glengamble526
@glengamble526 2 ай бұрын
Sharon wanted the publishing-Steve is too smart for that. The end.
@Valkron11
@Valkron11 2 ай бұрын
The more I hear about the Osborne's the less I like them
@Doug-b1e
@Doug-b1e 2 ай бұрын
Just the way they treated 90% of their fellow musicians is atrocious!
@joeflorez143
@joeflorez143 2 ай бұрын
TRUTH!
@clayton5584
@clayton5584 2 ай бұрын
They're terrible humans
@JPC-do8xi
@JPC-do8xi 2 ай бұрын
Because his wife controls him👎🏼
@batphink2655
@batphink2655 2 ай бұрын
I've not been a fan well over 10 years now!
@ShreddingFinn
@ShreddingFinn 2 ай бұрын
So Vai came in, wrote and wrote, then "ahh, well we change our mind", while they cherry pick what material to keep, knowing Vai has no rights to anything. Sounds like the Osbournes
@newsense2435
@newsense2435 2 ай бұрын
'cuz ozzy always screws his musicians out of their royalties... always
@GordonHeaney
@GordonHeaney 2 ай бұрын
Sharon does, she takes care of all the "business" end of things
@newsense2435
@newsense2435 2 ай бұрын
@@GordonHeaney and ozzy justs sits there. smh
@WellsWestContractors
@WellsWestContractors 2 ай бұрын
It's,,,,,,, SHARON... Ozzy's to damaged. They hire top notch musicians to write and record an albumXbox th as n take all the credits.
@newsense2435
@newsense2435 2 ай бұрын
@@WellsWestContractors as well as after the musicians who originally recorded the album saying stuff then they would rerecord the music with studio musicians in order to cut the them out. disgraceful and well documented.
@MorGuitarz
@MorGuitarz 2 ай бұрын
Yup, just ask Jake E Lee. Absolutely f'n ROBBED by Sharon (and yes...AND Ozzy)...Lee Kerslake, Bob Daisley, on and on....
@landofgoshenstudios6402
@landofgoshenstudios6402 2 ай бұрын
A recent shooting of Jake E. Lee during the time of the rock and roll Hall of Fame is very fishy. And he was never mentioned for doing the bark at the Moon album.A classic! Shot seven times at that, while walking his dog.
@garymesser9065
@garymesser9065 2 ай бұрын
I’m glad Steve has done so well!
@Axe_Slinger
@Axe_Slinger 2 ай бұрын
The reason Vai didn't join Ozzy was he wanted $2M to play on the album and Ozzy turned that amount down! I 100% recall this from an article in a Magazine as well as an interview with Ozzy. Steve even admitted, around that time, that he asked for WAY too much to play with Ozzy! It was similar to why the Vai band broke up. Steve said he let his ego and controlling nature get the best of him. That's not to say Steve has a controlling attitude it's just he had "visions" of how things should happen and he was too demanding in that era!
@karsguitarchannel6088
@karsguitarchannel6088 2 ай бұрын
Yes, apparently Steve Vai was too expensive for Ozzy and Sharon, and then Steve wanted publishing too.
@GordonHeaney
@GordonHeaney 2 ай бұрын
I had no idea they worked together at all, let alone recorded that much. Typical Sharon.
@Thunderstruck22
@Thunderstruck22 2 ай бұрын
Wasn't Vai on his Ozzmosis album
@GordonHeaney
@GordonHeaney 2 ай бұрын
@@Thunderstruck22 Yes, I know, I bought the album when it came out. The video clearly states that they recorded stuff together, not that it was ever released, and I am saying I did not know they had recorded stuff together, released or not. Don't why I had to explain that.
@tradbowseven
@tradbowseven 2 ай бұрын
neither needs the other. the ozzy camp is use to getting up and coming guitar players who are dependent on them. vai can do whatever he wants, he doesnt need anyone to get where hes going.
@stephenedgecock
@stephenedgecock 2 ай бұрын
He didn't wanna get ripped off by Ozzy and his wife
@Imperialmusicfan
@Imperialmusicfan 2 ай бұрын
If there's one project I would have loved to hear it would be this one.....sooo much potential!!
@wbgookin
@wbgookin 2 ай бұрын
I love Ozzy and recognize he probably wouldn't be here without Sharon, but she really seems like a terrible person.
@dleetr
@dleetr 2 ай бұрын
The apple doesn't fall far from the tree with Shazza. That said, her renown was legendary in the industry, artists by the 90s, shouldn't have been walking in blind to a business relationship involving Ozzy Inc LLC. Vai should put in his will the release of the tapes, which sound like they have would Ozzy vocals on them. Be an interesting historical artifact from a time when metal wasn't sure what to do with itself.
@rudedude3267
@rudedude3267 2 ай бұрын
Sharon is Yoko part 2
@yazdani3289
@yazdani3289 2 ай бұрын
Steve Vai almost Jake e Lee
@skyemoz6559
@skyemoz6559 2 ай бұрын
She’s worse as she is in charge of screwing the musicians thst play and write for ozzy
@streamofconsciousness5826
@streamofconsciousness5826 2 ай бұрын
Yoko has nothing of sharron, Yoko is a bit of baggage, a shadow the band did not need but John refused to acknowledge, John's "dependency" is the problem with Yoko, sharron is monovalent and vicious, a predator.
@221b-l3t
@221b-l3t 2 ай бұрын
​@@streamofconsciousness5826 But Sharon never sang. That evens the odds.
@macadoo2530
@macadoo2530 2 ай бұрын
Sharon is her father's daughter for sure.
@scottwhite2757
@scottwhite2757 2 ай бұрын
Crazy.. I have never heard of this. As always thank you Kar , Keep Rocking . ✌️
@karsguitarchannel6088
@karsguitarchannel6088 2 ай бұрын
Hi Scott, thank you very much 😊! Have an awesome rocking day ✌🎸🔥
@dreamdiction
@dreamdiction 2 ай бұрын
2:08 Things didn't work out with Ozzy because Sharon could not rip him off like she did with Jake E Lee.
@joefriedman7600
@joefriedman7600 2 ай бұрын
Ozzy ripped off Jake E Lee Dio ripped off Vivian Campbell. So many other musicians get scammed out of royalties. I heard krokus tried to rob other bands.
@221b-l3t
@221b-l3t 2 ай бұрын
OMG, I did not think I would hear about Krokus here. I may be mistaken but they are a Swiss hard rock band right? I saw them 20 years ago in Zurich. Great show.
@joefriedman7600
@joefriedman7600 2 ай бұрын
@221b-l3t They had swagger and had bodyguard goons demanding respect from people. Nothing too crazy but intimidating others and getting into scuffles
@RobGamesNZ
@RobGamesNZ 2 ай бұрын
After all the band line up changes, all the interference, all the behind the scenes stuff that stops everything, always comes back to one female: Sharon. After NMT it really kind of fizzled because of all the meddling.
@Skoora
@Skoora 2 ай бұрын
So Bob, who had known Sharon for about 15 years by then didn't know to get everything he would need in writing? He new she was a scorpion and still rode her across the river..lol
@BubbaZen10
@BubbaZen10 2 ай бұрын
And now his career seems to be talking about it all. (Not sticking up for Sharon, but at a certain point, it's like yeah, we know!)
@denisrad4339
@denisrad4339 2 ай бұрын
​@@BubbaZen10It's not quite as simple as you make out buddy. I suggest you read his book "For Facts Sake" for the whole truth.
@BubbaZen10
@BubbaZen10 2 ай бұрын
@@denisrad4339 Ok buddy. Thanks for the tip chief. Again, I'm certainly more on Bob's side in all this pal, but cheers anyway sport. ✌🏻
@BubbaZen10
@BubbaZen10 2 ай бұрын
@@denisrad4339 And i will say this, ya know how depressing it's gotta be as a musician when pretty much no one gives a fuck about what you might be doing and playing and writing now, and all they really care about is talking to you about your days 30 yrs ago with some drug addicted asshole and how he and his wife fucked you over? I feel for the guy, i really do. He's a lyrical genius and hell of a musician, who deserved much better.
@GregWard-nf9gz
@GregWard-nf9gz 2 ай бұрын
Ozzy as a solo artist seemed much too complicated to work with.
@image30p
@image30p 2 ай бұрын
Very interesting! Excellent insight!
@karsguitarchannel6088
@karsguitarchannel6088 2 ай бұрын
Many thanks, much appreciated!!😊🎸
@drcuda71
@drcuda71 2 ай бұрын
Randy got his Zakk got his.
@skyemoz6559
@skyemoz6559 2 ай бұрын
Ozzie and Sharon are horrible with the musicians including Randy.
@97warlock
@97warlock 2 ай бұрын
so knowing how sharon is Id blame her .......yet Vai has 3 different versions on what happened lol
@BlueberryStinkFinger62
@BlueberryStinkFinger62 2 ай бұрын
Vai way too good for Ozzy
@kevliao
@kevliao 2 ай бұрын
You can definitely tell the rhythm guitar part of My Little Man has Vai all over it. I thought even the solo sounded like Vai, and not Zakk.
@karsguitarchannel6088
@karsguitarchannel6088 2 ай бұрын
Yes but Vai himself said that he wrote it and a bit later Zakk re-recorded it in the studio for the album.
@infinidominion
@infinidominion 2 ай бұрын
​@@karsguitarchannel6088yet wrote by Vai so it has Vai all over it
@Norego.Newzealand
@Norego.Newzealand 2 ай бұрын
​@@infinidominion Yeah Zak would of just added 50 of those annoying harmonic pinches of his no doubt,I actually don't think I've ever heard it.
@spacesloth6496
@spacesloth6496 2 ай бұрын
Because once you played with frank Zappa you changed for ever 😅
@stephenedgecock
@stephenedgecock 2 ай бұрын
Zappa highly overrated
@JamminClemmons
@JamminClemmons 2 ай бұрын
@@stephenedgecock NOPE! ---- Allow a slap of reality: - Black Sabbath, with Ozzy: they recorded *EIGHT!* Led Zep, before Bonzo died: *EIGHT* Van Halen (with David Lee): *Only SIX* The Beatles: *12....lol* Frank Zappa (before death): *62 Albums* Imma-gonna-slappa-yo'-ignorant-arse-later. Mama Mia!
@EasyThere
@EasyThere 2 ай бұрын
Learned a lot thx Kar.
@karsguitarchannel6088
@karsguitarchannel6088 2 ай бұрын
You are very welcome, thank you 😊! Have an awesome rocking day 🎸!!!
@whataboutrob442
@whataboutrob442 2 ай бұрын
Vai isn't the guy I would want to hear with Ozzy
@tymanngruter1808
@tymanngruter1808 2 ай бұрын
He would be a street musician now, what a reliëf he quit this project! 😡
@streamofconsciousness5826
@streamofconsciousness5826 2 ай бұрын
Why does Bob keep going back to Ozzy, they can't be friends, and the most iconic Albums that he wrote with Randy have been usurped and credit taken by Ozzy. These piddily amounts as well, five grand, Ozzy must have been worth Millions even then. I'm surprised Steve got mixed up with the Osbourne's. he's pretty savvy.
@denisrad4339
@denisrad4339 2 ай бұрын
If you read Bob's book "For Facts Sake", you'll understand why Bob WAS involved with the Osbournes for so long. It's not quite as simple as it's been made out to be.
@Hexspa
@Hexspa 2 ай бұрын
Business filled music? You don’t say
@OCCONSTRUCTIONANDCONSULTINGINC
@OCCONSTRUCTIONANDCONSULTINGINC 2 ай бұрын
It seems that Sharon screwed a lot of musicians.
@frankorobinson1540
@frankorobinson1540 2 ай бұрын
Once a lier❤
@AkiataSkirata
@AkiataSkirata 2 ай бұрын
So do you think Zakk has been getting screwed out of royalties this whole time and he just puts up with it?
@newsense2435
@newsense2435 2 ай бұрын
I cannot speak for Zakk but the time he got there the writing was well on the wall. I just wish Zakk well.
@karsguitarchannel6088
@karsguitarchannel6088 2 ай бұрын
When Zakk joined Ozzy, he was too young: about 18 years old. In an interview, Zakk once confessed that he made more money with Ozzy than when he was pumping gas. So I think Zakk got paid some money for playing guitar on the album but I don't think he got publishing.
@newsense2435
@newsense2435 2 ай бұрын
@@karsguitarchannel6088 he also said he met ozzy at the gym and zakk would hook him up roids, it's in a one on one interview on one of the guitar channels here on youtube, guitar pilgram or some body like that. cheerts
@muleblues71
@muleblues71 2 ай бұрын
I can blame one person. sHaRoN
@buzzingfrets
@buzzingfrets 2 ай бұрын
Bring back Shawn Staples voice. We love him!
@karsguitarchannel6088
@karsguitarchannel6088 2 ай бұрын
Hi, this is Kar. Thanks for your feedback! Shawn's been busy lately. He gives guitar lessons and plays in his own band. So while he's busy, I decided to keep going and use this voice.
@buzzingfrets
@buzzingfrets 2 ай бұрын
@ Thanks for keeping the videos coming while Shawn is busy. I’ll keep liking and sharing your great work!
@karsguitarchannel6088
@karsguitarchannel6088 2 ай бұрын
@@buzzingfrets Thank you very much, I appreciate!! Have an awesome day 🎸😊
@CTROCK
@CTROCK 2 ай бұрын
Steve style would not go to well with Ozzy style! Zakk is a better choice!
@karsguitarchannel6088
@karsguitarchannel6088 2 ай бұрын
Yes I agree. However Steve Vai and Joe Satriani played awesome solo on Alice Cooper's song 'Feed My Frankenstein'. So if Steve had done the same with Ozzy, that would've been an awesome record! Anyway, I loved the track 'My Little Man'.
@CTROCK
@CTROCK 2 ай бұрын
@ -My little man sounds bad ass!
@beerubbed7345
@beerubbed7345 2 ай бұрын
Zakk didn't play on that song. You can tell it was Vai who played on that
@spookytkid
@spookytkid 2 ай бұрын
Not sure that is true. Via wrote it but i think he said Zak played it.
@karsguitarchannel6088
@karsguitarchannel6088 2 ай бұрын
Yes, Vai said that he wrote it but then Zakk re-recorded it and Zakk plays it his own way on the record.
@christophercirocco8611
@christophercirocco8611 2 ай бұрын
Why would Steve want to jam with a singer who has no range and very limited ability anyway? $$$
@rinkydinky-ob9pe
@rinkydinky-ob9pe 2 ай бұрын
Never cared for him after what they did to bill ward
@bevolkisch4628
@bevolkisch4628 2 ай бұрын
My opinion is that Ozzy tells Sharon to make up some excuse to tell Steve vai or whoever else that he doesn't like anymore to get rid of them. Therefore Sharon gets blamed for everything, but realistically Sharon is Ozzy's wife, so whatever she does is whatever Ozzy wants to happen, he's the husband, he's the star Sharon is just his wife and basically his go between.
@antithug7942
@antithug7942 Ай бұрын
She's his manager, too.
@seanmurphy26
@seanmurphy26 2 ай бұрын
Whatever happened to that super goofy narrator, Shawn Staples..?
@karsguitarchannel6088
@karsguitarchannel6088 2 ай бұрын
Shawn gives guitar lessons and plays in a band. He's been very busy lately.
@seanmurphy26
@seanmurphy26 2 ай бұрын
@karsguitarchannel6088 He's Cool..
@EDDIETRUJILLO-q8p
@EDDIETRUJILLO-q8p 2 ай бұрын
Lies, Sharon called him. She told him I get rid of people. Ask Jake.
@karsguitarchannel6088
@karsguitarchannel6088 2 ай бұрын
Sharon said to Jake that if he doesn't sign the contract (Bark at the Moon), they will buy him a fly ticket and they will get another guitarist who would re-do all the guitar parts.
@clevebaker8399
@clevebaker8399 2 ай бұрын
Ozzy sux
@golfcoursemanager33
@golfcoursemanager33 2 ай бұрын
Vai's playing isn't rock and roll enough. He's too "experimental" and avant-garde to fit with the meat and potatoes rock music that is Ozzie's wheelhouse.
@Fretboard_Frenzy
@Fretboard_Frenzy 2 ай бұрын
Vai already disproved that theory many times, especially when he made a cracking rock album with Whitesnake in 1989 😉
@TheKitchenerLeslie
@TheKitchenerLeslie 2 ай бұрын
He did pretty well with David Lee Roth.
@golfcoursemanager33
@golfcoursemanager33 2 ай бұрын
@@TheKitchenerLeslie his playing is still "goofy." Does anyone still listen to the records?
@TheKitchenerLeslie
@TheKitchenerLeslie 2 ай бұрын
@@golfcoursemanager33 define "goofy"... then upload a video of you playing "not goofy" so we can compare and contrast. Thanks.
@RickSmith-z6n
@RickSmith-z6n 2 ай бұрын
Because Ozzy only uses good guitar players
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