Steven Rinella, The MeatEater

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@nicmac3347 8 ай бұрын

Rinella Putelis 2024 🇺🇸

@BikeThrottleOfficial 8 ай бұрын

Just imagine the policies. It would be a utopia

@squigtonianmayhem4602 8 ай бұрын

No way, they would never give up November! Are ya serious?

@christuschen-rr2zk 8 ай бұрын

I want a tshirt!

@EvanHendrickson-hq1vf 8 ай бұрын

Better than any other option. I’m still in the giant meteor 2024 camp tho.

@benkutz5209 8 ай бұрын

I am 100% writing this in on my ballot😂

@NuChad2011 7 ай бұрын

Steve is highly intelligent. A true American and an educated conservationist. His thinking is beyond most and definitely has the greatest good in the forefront. Hunter to the highest degree. Exceptional cook as well. Hope to shake his hand some day.

@longfalllureoutdoors7321 8 ай бұрын

Steve is a great person to represent the outdoor community.. well spoken and educated, and big balls for agreeing to sit in the scope for an hour! Watched your stuff for a decade and as an avid outdoorsman…THANK YOU STEVE!

@MrCashewkitty 8 ай бұрын

@chrismeister2554I'm intrigued. Can you elaborate or better yet, point me in the right direction?

@yo2stix 8 ай бұрын

Steve was very gracious to you and your interview. His laughing was very much illuminating that.

@BikeThrottleOfficial 8 ай бұрын

My main respect for the guy comes from his work as a journalist first and foremost. It’s all well and good people claiming status nowadays from social media, but Steve put the work in as a writer first and a TV guy second. He’s the real deal and I enjoyed your interview with him, and he continued to be an inspiration for me to keep writing.

@thevoyageur2152 7 ай бұрын

Steve’s my favourite Hunting channel host! Watch his channel religiously. Happy Huntin.

@hippyhebrewhomestead8593 8 ай бұрын

I got 10 seconds in and was about to turn this off but decided to stay because it’s what Steven Rinella would do.

@ericlind3569 8 ай бұрын

I had a preconceived notion of how this interaction was going to play out & I have to say, I was pleasantly surprised. I’m very much a fan of Steve Rinella and could (and do) listen to his podcast and books all day long, because he’s of my ilk. I don’t know who this Josh guy is and I don’t think he has as deep of a grasp on the natural order of things that Steve does, or maybe that’s my preconceived notion interfering, because he held Steve to task on a few things and raised a few great questions as well. I really enjoyed this conversation!!

@justsnuggle 5 ай бұрын

Boy Steve sure was gracious to allow you to interview him. Steve is amazing and did a wonderful job.

@keithkempenich6401 8 ай бұрын

This was an exceptionally good conversation on a subject that very often devolves into defensiveness, ridicule, and speaking past one another. I respect both guys tremendously; Steve who I admire and listen to weekly (I am a hunter myself) and Josh, who I used to listen to as host of Point of Inquiry, way back. Bother are thoughtful and articulate about their positions, and despite their depth and complexity, they manage to maintain a good sense of humor about it all. It's a shame then that the entire conversation rather danced around the heart of the topic. That is, are animals conscious and sentient, what does that mean, and what are its moral implications for eating meat? For my part I'll say that as hunters we spend a lot of time observing animals, like A LOT. And the game species I pursue, it's unavoidably apparent to me that they do not have aspirations or meaningful higher thought. In the presence of danger, a doe will abandon her fawn to save herself. Predator species will cannibalize themselves with no regard whatsoever to the morality of the behavior, and certainly without appeal to any religious notions. Turkeys and other birds don't even know what the hell they're doing one minute to the next, let alone have any clue about tomorrow. The highest order of thought I have observed is simply the will to survive and avoid danger. They certainly feel pain, and in that regard I do feel a moral responsibility to kill efficiently and promptly, but that is not in and of itself a reason to not hunt an animal for responsible consumption. We evolved to eat meat (if not evolved *because* we do) and I don't see a reason to reject that. But hey, that's just my present thought. Lovely chat there, gents!

@stevedimatteo8577 7 ай бұрын

Very interesting I’ve watched Steve when he first came to tv and enjoyed him I think for me it was the combination of hunting fishing cooking and conservation keep it up Steve we enjoy you gosh I’d love to be able to spend a day with you at our family camp in pa

@christophersharp7198 8 ай бұрын

This was great!! Familiar with Steve, but not with this particular podcast! Definitely will add it to my growing list of things to listen to. Keep it up Josh!!

@ElTubeo1515 8 ай бұрын

15:33 *"Sounds like it's butthole. Are you talking about butthole? I'm familiar with buttholes."* You're my favorite, Josh.

@southflyfisher 8 ай бұрын

Excellent podcast. I was engaged for the entirety.

@apojakeify 8 ай бұрын

Goodness gracious I love Steve. He’s a master at communicating an esoteric or even spiritual concept in a way that even the most reductionist atheist would get. With class 👌

@colinbridge3466 8 ай бұрын

Interesting interview , from someone who has hunted since I could walk and in my later years now still hunting to feed my family and friends , was nice to see an object view and some understanding of our world, have followed Steve and meateater for a while now down to earth guy just living life in the real world as it is meant to be, sadly most people are far removed from that these days

@nikorolfness1327 8 ай бұрын

Steve is very good at articulating himself to get the point across without making himself sound bad from a vegan channel

@terrybennetts7898 8 ай бұрын

Great conversation.

@victornonnya 7 ай бұрын

So funny! The first thing i grab and eat is what i was calling ( and i had no other reference to call it) was the " butt nubbin" 😆 the parsans nose! It's still the best part that i grab first all the time. Great interview. Love Steven Rinella. The best man/ person to put out in front and really give everyone the perspective of all the hunters and harvesters.

@frankjerardenno2678 7 ай бұрын

❤great podcast ! Thanks mr.rinnella ,chef and apocalypse now❤.🎉 our buddy....

@russell13904 7 ай бұрын

"I like hunting *and* fishing." And if l can't do those then l l'm still gonna forage mushrooms. Oh man, l so agree.

@woodsmn8047 8 ай бұрын

Parson's nose ...my mom called it ..."the part that went over the fence last"

@cjsawinski 8 ай бұрын

Steve just had a way with words, like no one else I know of (especially in the wildlife space). One of my favorite episodes of his show is the black bear hunt remembering his dad. The hunt was absolutely a dud, very slow hunt without any “luck” at all. And yet he was able to reflect and take in the moment with such charisma that that episode struck a major chord with me. The father and son traditions, memories, lessons, ext. just powerful shit from my point of view anyways. If you think of yourself as an outdoorsman in any way, there’s no better role model these days (excluding your own father or direct irl influence) than Steve Rinella.

@ECregsOutdoors 8 ай бұрын

Great interview!

@derekmiller8564 5 ай бұрын

I remember the squab at the Castle, in Billings.

@justsnuggle 5 ай бұрын

Why is Steve giving a 1 hour interview crude Aussie with 7,000 subscribers. Steve is a saint

@jamiemunnings8363 4 ай бұрын

You sir are a dick keep your opinions in your mind not online cheers 😊

@woodsmn8047 8 ай бұрын

every thing we eat is a living thing at one point so no matter what we eat something has to die even if it's not capable of screaming and running away it still has a strong desire to live and is just as worthy of life even if it's a carrot ...life is not fair !

@Socialmediasuks 8 ай бұрын

Even more are is the millions of wildlife displaced or chopped up in the harvest of vegetables. Once we realize we’re all complicit we can eat without casting judgement and all work on the true enemy. The fda that allows poison in all of our foods.

@danielulyssesbond341 7 ай бұрын

They hold the bell with one paw to stop it jangling, and hunt with the other paw, successfully. They also hang themselves on the bell, don't ever tie things around their necks.

@a7neu 6 ай бұрын

I thought the interview was really good and Josh pressed Steve for viewpoints of his that I'd been curious about for a long time.

@angrymeowngi 4 ай бұрын

On his remarks on Joe Rogan, the guy is genuinely curious. If you ever actually watch his conversations with really intellectual people, he is always just curious and is among the best conversationalist I've seen. Of course if watch episodes where his guest are crack pots (and there are a lot) Joe just tend to match their energy to an extent and that is even more proof why he is such a success at podcasting. Of course with those people the conversation often allows for airing out crazy ideas. And it is your problem if you are stupid enough to believe what sounds and are stupid ideas.

@thommysaraceno2862 8 ай бұрын

love a podcast host who talks over his guest... Sigh

@firefly9838 7 ай бұрын

I have noticed this to appear seemly common among Aussies online I see... wonder if its different cultural norms around conservations.

@angrymeowngi 4 ай бұрын

It is more common than you may initially think. To an extent, to be a podcaster you have to like talking (even if you don't like to hear yourself talking). And in real conversations, that happens a lot too. So many are really trying to balance these and often to make more like a real conversation they are often forced to try to talk over especially if they have an agenda. And an agenda is also something needed because things may end up in silence or lack of coherence. Even Steve often talks over or interrupts guest at his podcast. So do most podcasters. It is just part of the "trying to make a real conversation". And if you say you don't regularly experience it, then you either are not talking enough to many and different people who you don't agree on a lot of things or you are having fake conversations with people who have different ideas or stand on things as you. This is why meetings over zoom often feel fake to many people because many require that you raise your hand even during normal conversations. Of course it is different when someone is intentionally being rude. In this case, I don't think any of them are trying to be rude. It is just the product of excitement at wanting to share an idea.

@Soondite71 8 ай бұрын

Life is simple. We make it complicated. Without death there would be no life. We are all food for something.

@willtucker4613 8 ай бұрын

What did he bleep at 1:01:54? Lol

@karlboutilier5181 7 ай бұрын

I love his two quotes , if you don't like meat there is something definitely wrong with you, and , If I have to give up hunting I'll pick up some useless sport like golf LMAO , as long as I can walk I'll hunt , then ill just crawl from then on lol

@voodoocruiser2543 7 ай бұрын

Josh and Steve are in completely different leagues. It's impossible for the best of Steve to come out with such a very low bar being set by this Josh character.

@blakerobson9312 8 ай бұрын

Josh This podcast you got going isn’t very good, have you thought about doing anything else?

@kevinbarry9710 8 ай бұрын

I have struggled to listen to this, Steve Rinella is a legend and Meateater is awesome but Josh who????

@geneharrogate6911 8 ай бұрын

I know right? It's like listening to an academic talk to that Joe what's his name guy.

@homeinthewhiteoaks 5 ай бұрын

What a lot of people in the "Green Movement" who are against hunting do not realize is just how a lot of modern hunting works. Many of us hunters own a small farms or woodlands that is left wild, or has limited AG use now. It's left for wildlife and recreation, to include hunting. My state has programs so that I pay very little tax on my family land and its designated as protected for Forrest and Wildlife. I take a few game animals from that land each year while it supports many more, along with many non game species. It's upsetting to have people in urban areas look at hunters as destroyers of an ecosystem, when in reality I am protecting a chunk of natural land, encouraged by my State Department of Natural Resources (Fish and Game). If it were not for my hunting and fishing on my land, I can tell you it would be sold, and the timber would be cut down and sold, then cleared for more flat farm fields devoid of wildlife. The state gets to list land in the program as protected from development and left for wildlife. I follow the rules they set out, and manage the land with the help of a state biologist. In that agreement I have to let the land be wild, and only manage for control of invasive plants, or for benefit of wild animal habitat, under direction and visitation of the State biologist. Yet people living in a large city feel somehow they are the true environmentalists due to the bumper stickers they put on their car? East of the Mississippi in the US the vast majority of land that is left for wildlife is not State or Federal land, it's private land. I have an old hardwoods that has a lot of Great Grey Owls, that nest on my land. The Biologist was shocked at the numbers on my place when I had my first visit from them. So one of the things they want me insure is that the owls are not bothered, and I keep a schedule of mowing an old field, to keep the natural pray for the owls available to them. And my family uses that land to harvest some Deer (less than 1% to 5%) of the population, to provide us with meat. So we get a food source that's clean from any added chemicals or has been injected with antibiotics.

@jamesgranderson2890 8 ай бұрын

Go Steve!

@hankbrady-ir9tu 2 күн бұрын

Steve missed a point that I’m really surprised that he didn’t touch. The question of not caring about the apple and only apple tree kept coming up. The missing point is hunters do care about the apple very much. Here is a hard fact animals die in three basic ways. Animals starve to death for various reasons they are eaten by other animals or they are killed by humans. If you look at those three ways two of those are almost always slow excruciating deaths. Those two ways are starvation and predation. The other “killed by humans” can be in some cases a painful death in the case of animal car collision or death by intentional or secondary poisoning, but in the case of hunting it almost always results in a quick death with a limited amount of suffering for the creature that is hunted. Real hunters strive to harvest their wild game with every intention of limiting an animal’s suffering as much as possible and true animal lovers would rather see an animal have a quick and hopefully painless death than a slow death from other means that takes hours or days. I argue that hunters that care about the apple tree and the way the apples are harvested are the true guardians of wildlife. Not the animal activists.

@caseyhickey5291 8 ай бұрын

Plants have feeling too thats, scientifically proven they know when your about to cut them. How are vegans going to deal with that dilemma 🤔

@jaminberg9323 7 ай бұрын

sounds from the TV show From Scratch ripped you off

@NicholasWilliams-b8f 8 ай бұрын

This debate could’ve been simplified to utilitarianism vs inherent value.

@williamlavelle7786 8 ай бұрын

I was amazed at the beginning that Josh knew so little about food and classic chefs. Made me think he was not very smart, then spent the whole interview trying to put Steve in a awkward position and to denigrate his avocation for the out-of-doors.

@reggrunow1460 8 ай бұрын

You very much misunderstood the questions if that was your conclusion.

@leemcelveen5411 8 ай бұрын

First 13 minutes sucks... not sure I'll make it much further. Host keeps trying to be funny and he's not.

@djsnglzz 8 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@djsnglzz 8 ай бұрын

It was a rough intro. 😂 poor Steve

@Matiaslife 7 ай бұрын

I dont even know why steve loses time this

@hossrauscher5511 8 ай бұрын

This conversation is in desperate need of Christian theology. To use the tree analogy, the Arborist of the human tree is God, which is why humans are different, and why there is a moral law that is higher than the whims of humans. It’s wrong to eat people because the moral law (says so. Because we are on the tree together the lives are of equal value, and because the Arborist is greater than we are, the rules are different for us than they are for the trees we were given to steward. Steve is closest to correct. We are called to steward over the tree, and we have rational minds, souls, and a moral law that makes us capable of stewardship. Stewardship sometimes calls for harvesting, and with the nutrient value of the animals, the steward has skin in the game of caring for the tree. Humans and animals are not equal, which affords us both the authority to harvest our resources and the responsibility to do it morally.

@dfrank6506 6 ай бұрын

Steve I’ll watch anything you do buddy and I have for years, but I gotta say your host was a bit of a prick and made this really hard to make it through lol

@Clayman5577 8 ай бұрын

God .

@mtbguidecoeurdalene2741 8 ай бұрын

I would have liked to hear more about steves perspective on human population control & how that pertains to conservation. He uses conservation as justification for the hunting of animals. The morality of cannibalism was interesting… he said according to his philosophy humans get a “pass”. Do humans also get a “pass” when it comes to the conservation of planet earth and all the species living on it?

@ggray19 8 ай бұрын

population control: YOU FIRST.

@Quantumanticz 8 ай бұрын

lol. I love this argument. I’m all on board with people who think we need human population control leading by example. Atleast 20% of the modern world has this view, that’s 20% of the population that we really don’t need 🤷🏼‍♂️.

@mtbguidecoeurdalene2741 8 ай бұрын

While you guys are missing the point, it would for sure be interesting to hear discussion on population control in and of itself between smart people on both sides of the issue who have thought deeply about it. My point was that if Szeps was taking rinellas arguments to task using “if you believe this… then wouldn’t it make you hypocritical not to believe in that….” Then wouldn’t population control for conservation fall under the same umbrella as hunting for conservation? If his north star is the apple tree, are humans the apples too or where do we fit in? Also, szeps argues that the lives of creatures with greater abilities are more valuable than those of lesser abilities. By that logic would the life of a disabled human be less valuable than that of a fully capable human?

@ggray19 8 ай бұрын

@mtbguidecoeurdalene2741 Here's hoping our obtuse nature didn't cause you to miss our point. Regardless of your apparent inability to find conversation/intelligent debate on population control in today's world/media... Ma, when you social distanced, you apparently WENT THE EXTRA MILE. Come on back, turns out at least one side of that "discussion" has the intelligent in their corner... the other has the intelligence agencies. And it has certainly been interesting. Tune in, you're gonna love it!