Steve Reviews: Coraline (Part 2 of 2)

[@avionpiscean33]

The faces have to do with the fact that when the beldame killed them, they froze with whatever expression they had. It's actually quite heartbreaking in my opinion.

[@xanthemothcat]

avionpiscean33 but then why do the other two not have looks of horror and fear on them?

[@howlt005]

@@xanthemothcat could have killed them from behind

[@jrlopez1027.]

They sort of did...

[@maleighnadavis8594]

@@xanthemothcat maybe the two of them didn't have the time to react.

[@TheRealNormanBates]

howlt005 Or they were asleep

[@huimang94]

“It was just incredibly cute, and made me smile.” *Said the very angry frowning avatar*

[@chosenuwu]

true ;-:

[@theredo1923]

Remember teddy

[@kittyheart2843]

Yeah that confused me

[@yeetyeet8792]

*E A T BANANAS*

[@ianbenicio1035]

pro tip: you can watch movies on Flixzone. Me and my gf have been using them for watching lots of of movies lately.

[@EvripidouM]

In an interview they said why-were,-you-born was introduced so thst Coraline wouldnt talk witherself when she explained things

[@paladinboyd1228]

M. Evripidou, She could have spoken to the cat.

[@blacklight7726]

Paladin Boyd The cat can’t speak in the real world.

[@paladinboyd1228]

BlackLight, People talk to their cats all the time.

[@LovatoLover22]

I was just about to say that that's the reason why they added him

[@nanukdieerste1290]

Still, adding just a few more scenes with Wybie to create a subplot about the twins would have greatly improved the character.

[@elsa4206]

I feel like the parents changing character was more to do with coralines perception of them rather than them actually changing themselves. Because the start of the movie only happens when they're particularly short on time and Coraline is emotional from having moved house, so all this could contribute to Coraline feeling that her parents were neglecting her and so see them in a very "bad" light. However by the end of the movie she does learn to appreciate them so instead of the parents changing character it's actually her unconsciously seeing her parents in a more positive light. This is only furthered by the fact that the parents busy/stressful time is over and so with the combination of coralines changed perception and the convenient timing of the parents relaxing it seems like a too large character change for it to make sense.

[@Bell.luvsuu]

That makes alot more scene-

[@gorg7884]

Another theory is that the Beldame had some sort of supernatural affect on the parents to make her world more suitable and attractive for Caroline, the snow globe breaking could represent the other mother's spell being broken that held the parents in a bland and irritating state.

[@brianlevine871]

The last time I watched this movie, there were subtle changes in the parents' behavior throughout it. Moving past the stressed phase in the beginning, each scene afterward had them gradually soften up a bit towards Coraline. Sure it's not the same as directly apologizing to Coraline for their gruff attitude, but you can feel they truly want to make it up to her while also calming down from their stress with moving to a new home.

[@sideways_chip_eater6420]

@@gorg7884 so your saying the Beldame was the one making her parents neglectful? That would honestly make alot of sense

[@MacaldaReye]

Another thing to note, is that the reason they moved, is because they were struggling financially, scenes like how she looks in the fridge and sees there’s nothing left to eat, or the fact that Mel couldn’t get those gloves for Coraline initially, and theres also the fact that Mel had been in an accident that probably cost them a lot of money, there is a lot of tension because of the financial struggles they were having, and the reason their mood probably changed at the end of the film was also because they had finally finished their catalogue and was able to get a paycheck and be a little bit more financially stable again

[@JAtkins1987]

A small correction on the CGI aspect in the film. Sarah Meyer, a lead animator on the film, came to my college to talk in depth on how this film was made. She was the primary animator for the cat. She stated that the end scene where the world was falling apart was actually small tiles being painstakingly moved from the model. While CGI helped blend things and put peices together in post, she explained that that scene was done by hand. In fact, the pressure was on that it could not be redone if there were any problems, so they had to make it count. Also, the animator that moved the pumpkins in the garden was referred to as the cave troll, since that person was under the set for the entirety of those scenes animating a lot of the components that moved in the garden.

[@shadow_shine3578]

Oh my goodness that was stop motion I'm so impressed

[@blauwbeer556]

oh god, if the movie has a deadline then i am *very* impressed that they could do this.

[@Froggy711]

Wyborn was pretty much included to give Coraline someone to talk to. In the book we have the benefit of Coraline as a narrator to communicate how Coraline is thinking and feeling. The movie can't always show that, so... enter Wyborn. His flight toward the end is also important because his presence during the final showdown in the other world would have been a pretty gross departure from the book. Coraline is the hero. I don't think I would have liked the story more had Coraline been brattier. Again, the whole movie is about Coraline and her perspective and relationship with her parents. And sometimes... kids don't always get along with their parents. That doesn't make them a brat, necessarily, people just rub up against one another sometimes. Parents are human too, and they get stressed and they can't always be supermom or superdad. I think I really enjoyed this humanization of Coraline's parents. When we finally see them again at the end, as a viewer I felt relieved to see them again, as Coraline must have felt. And yes, they are much nicer toward the end of the film, not because they experienced anything of what Coraline did, but because they were in a very stressful situation, caught between work and the move. But these things pass and the warm, loving parents that they always were returns as well.

[@konjurist]

Froggy711 that’s why his name is ‘why born?’

[@veronicacrosthwaite8612]

@@konjurist his parents must've hated him.

[@jazzydrawz3792]

@@konjurist maybe it's a nod to the fact that he wasn't originally in the book and was just made for the sake of Coraline needing someone to talk to? That's what I thought.

[@coyraig8332]

The parents could also be nicer at the end because this entire movie was from Coraline's point of view, and she learned to appreciate them

[@bloodybee3553]

Not to mention, they also could have been stressed because they had just gotten into a car accident and the mother had been injured

[@KaNoMikoProductions]

I think the point with the parents is that they are stressed with some work, and at the end of the movie, they have less work and are thus less stressed. It's not like being neglectful is their basic modus operandi, since we see the mom taking Coraline shopping and trying to engage with her.

[@divergentdreams1951]

This is the comment I was looking for, this one right here.

[@TJMC0834]

Or perhaps the ”neglect” is just exaggerated through the eyes of a child. Seems like a simple and highly likely explanation to me. And since Coraline found new appreciation for them through her arc she sees them in a new light when they reunite. I think there’s a shift in the color grading to represent this but not sure.

[@koatam]

Yeah, they were busy moving, had a large work project going and on top of that they had a frustrated kid. Even the best parents can be cross with their kids unjustifiably.

[@kaiyamya9882]

Considering the mom also clearly had gone through an accident that required her to wear a neck brace, her crabbiness is justified. I mean, I've never had an injury like that but I imagine it would make anyone irritable.

[@Zarola]

I feel the same. Money was tight, Dad doesn't seem like one to think 1 dollar is an acceptable tip in the end of the movie. They are in a town where everything looks drab. In Coraline's mother's expression and voice it seems like she totally agrees with Coraline that the situation blows. She's not too keen on the "in town" area, but didn't have time to think of ways to make it better immediately after they've moved cross country after an accident.

[@djdeadbeat4380]

“He pulled a loooooong face, *and mother didn’t like it* “ *gets strangled and pulled into the piano*

[@kimjongun831]

DJ Deadbeat lmao

[@denises9120]

Oof

[@TheHighDerple]

I guess she really didn't like it...

[@TheCraftworkOrange]

I hate that scene now. I had a very vivid and terrifying nightmare of a woman who stretched her face like that. Sucks because this is one of my favorite movies.

[@CornSnakeLance]

oof

[@emi2885]

Her parents were stressed. Once the catalog is done the stress is gone, so that's why they have a very dramatic change of character at te end. I always figured the dad is working on an old computer because they're too poor to afford a new one. They also had to move, so that probably cut their funds a lot (that's why the mom doesn't buy Coraline the gloves), and they have the catalog which they probably didn't have so much time to work on due to "the accident" and the family moving.

[@AustroStudios2003]

Why do the dogs have human teeth Why do the dogs have human teeth WHY DO THE DOGS HAVE HUMAN TEETH

[@JinlongTheGoldenDragon]

they just can.

[@yeetyeet8792]

WHY DO THEY HAVE *T E E T H*

[@bloodybee3553]

You should see the fish with human teeth. It's a real thing

[@GeorgianPapist514]

Cough cough sonic movie cough cough

[@beastmaster0934]

Bloody Bee Oh you mean the Pacu, the vegetarian cousin of he Piranha.

[@MrKlausbaudelaire]

1:36 fun fact, in the book, the other mother was always looking elongated with claw-like fingers and this almost spider-like visual, the movie decided she would first appear as Coraline's mother to not make Coraline look stupid AF to trust such creepy monster at first. Also, I LOVE how the last appearance of the lost souls had the background of Van Gogh's Starry night. Visualy, this movie was a piece of art in every frame.

[@rollingthunder1043]

'course it was, it's a Laika!

[@piperian3962]

It’s easier to put the idea of suggestion into a book than a movie. Neil Gaiman grew up in Scientology so he puts a lot of hypnosis style things in his books.

[@MrKlausbaudelaire]

@@piperian3962 yea but when the book is in the point of view of the main character and describes a character as it is, there is no hypnosis involved. I thin it was just to convey the creepy character straight away but to also make it similar to fairytales like Hansen and Gretel where they trust the witch right away.

[@piperian3962]

Ergotth, in the book it was described as Coraline noticing that she actually didn’t look like her mother at all. Spider does a similar thing in Anansi Boys.

[@piperian3962]

Ergotth, I did say hypnosis but I meant more in the sense of persuasion or suggestion. It would be like walking into a room like you’re the hottest person there and everyone believing it because you’re so confident. It would be a hard thing to convey in a movie so the mother transforms.

[@mhairiharris4872]

I’m pretty sure if Wyborn wasn’t there (in terms of the film) Coraline would’ve been strangled. Honestly, I think Wybie is a great addition to the film. If he didn’t exist, then we would never have gotten the other wybie smile scene.

[@chrisfreeman2726]

whybie was my favorite character and I probably would have left in the middle of the movie if he wasn't in it

[@rollingthunder1043]

Wyborne wasn't a bad addition to the film by any means, but he wasn't in the book and Coraline got out OK in the end. She spends a huge chunk of the book completely alone in the house, without even Mrs Spink/Forcible or Mr Bobinski to give cryptic warnings or subtle help, and the final confrontation between her and the Other Mother is done completely without Wyborne - just her and the cat. It feels like she only needed Wyborne in the film because he was already in it anyway, so they might as well give him something to do with actual plot relevance.

[@chrisfreeman2726]

@@rollingthunder1043 I guess but he's still my favorite

[@Bell.luvsuu]

The creator said they added him in so that it wouldn't feel like Coraline was the only kid there. He also added him so that Coraline would have someone to talk to

[@fuzzymuffin8273]

Characters that serve as plot filer is lazy writing

[@ConnorGarrett]

me: *sees the spider mom thing* My reaction: PUT THAT THING BACK WHERE IT CAME FROM OR SO HELP ME!!!!!!!!!!

[@_Crybaby_Smuff_]

Wrong movie *b u s t e r* 🔫

[@ConnorGarrett]

still tho

[@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398]

Spit a web! Any size! Look out here comes the Spider Mom!

[@ConnorGarrett]

Not that kind. THE CREEPY OTHER MOM SPIDER MOM

[@typonumber8939]

That was my first nightmare i ever had

[@YourBrotherIRL]

I liked Wybie- I remember being hella sad when I watched this movie for the first time and the other Wybie was killed

[@CiberChimera]

You can tell Wybie is a loner who doesn't have the best social skills and why he is happy when the cat give him dead things, which is a parental instinct that they see you as family.

[@Wren_May]

CiberChimera well he was the only child living in that area before Coraline was there

[@wolfgirl5636]

Me too I loved him I think people jump to conclusions of evil or serial killer whenever a character is unique or different

[@staytuned2L337]

Maybe this is why his name is wybie? Why was he born? To help the movie along!...?

[@leighferdgames1593]

@@staytuned2L337 well it was probably Wybie born

[@philadelphiawhovian5641]

Unpopular opinion: I like Wybie. he seemed to be off-center bc he doesn't have friends, due to being isolated from kids, but he also was a very good foil for Coraline to bounce off of and express her ideas with, bc much of the book was Coraline talking in her mind. also, I liked how he helped Coraline at the end. it felt like both of them were embracing reality together, and showing, how in times of crisis, we are all not alone. and i'm happy Coraline wasn't bratty. also, her parents character transformation was like that in the book. either way, GREAT VIDEO! I love this movie :)

[@alienfrograbbitchannelmove4229]

Yes! Me too!

[@philadelphiawhovian5641]

@@alienfrograbbitchannelmove4229 Thx so much!

[@alienfrograbbitchannelmove4229]

@@philadelphiawhovian5641 Theres a lot of people who think that.

[@philadelphiawhovian5641]

@@alienfrograbbitchannelmove4229 i hope so. sometimes u accept that you may be the only one in the room who feels like u do. it's nice to not be alone :D

[@alienfrograbbitchannelmove4229]

@@philadelphiawhovian5641 Wow that got kinda deep.

[@Flourikum]

I think the parents were being shown through Coralines eyes in the beginning as well as the world and people around her. The difficulties of moving and losing already made her depressed and her parents stress didn't help. On the outside she shows this colorful personality while how she views the world as a dull, depressing place contrasts well. Plus the change from winter to spring to show the world is a better place that she wouldn't want to trade for was a nice added touch in the end.

[@tylerbell1858]

I’ve been waiting for this comment

[@clearcasket1555]

Not to mention, the colorful people in the normal world. Even if the world itself is bleak, the people in it can make it bright.

[@kimberleyjanemcnab5343]

Also, having just watched this with my 16 year old daughter, who’s favourite film from her childhood this is, said that it was Coraline’s childlike perception of her parents. Children often see their parents actions as “neglect” even when its not. The book, which she also read, is from Coraline’s POV and therefore this is perfectly appropriate.

[@Spicy_Pacifist]

You mentioned the palettes between the world, but at the end, they switch. The other world gets darker since it's basically dead. The real world, while still dark, seems brighter, and everyone planting flowers is helping the brightness of the world too. Also, the ending with her parents being happy, makes sense for me at least. Yes, it does feel odd, but you do have to remember. They did just move, which is stress, add on top of their catalog, and Coraline starting school, there is a lot of stress going in, which Coraline probably doesn't understand. My family moved recently. We were fighting and snappy at each other for weeks, until we finally settled in

[@ThatGuy-wq7bv]

Except when you realize the real world in the end is one of the other mothers fake world you can tell this by how bright the world is and the fact that the cat disappears at the end

[@Spicy_Pacifist]

@@ThatGuy-wq7bv the cat is magic. Which is why he can speak and stayed around the house, to protect any kids that got onto the property. And the brightness of the world was because the other mother is gone, and since Coraline is finally starting to feel at home, the world, to her, got brighter.

[@OptimusPhillip]

The stated reason for Wyborn being added was that they needed some way for Coraline to externalize her thoughts. How well he served that purpose... yeah, I can see that being debatable.

[@Zanoab]

I don't think there is a better way to externalize Coraline's thoughts without changing the audience's perspective to third person. On the other hand, I think Other Wyborn was a welcome addition that helps the story more than Wyborn ruins it. Seeing Other Wyborn permanently silenced instills the possibility that the extreme opposite of what you hate isn't always going to be what you will love. His implied death during the game also maintained tension and fear despite Coraline every Other being so far. They also changed the flow of events because it no longer has to be Other Mother that releases Coraline after meeting the ghost children.

[@ToroDelSushi]

In this case narration wouldve helped alot. You don't have to add another character to a story in order to know what their thinking.

[@OptimusPhillip]

@@ToroDelSushi That's true, but filmmakers nowadays seem to not like using narrators.

[@ToroDelSushi]

@@OptimusPhillip true. Theyd rather the characters talk to themselves like a bunch of schizophrenic people 😂

[@OptimusPhillip]

@@ToroDelSushi which is what Wybie was meant to prevent

[@sallytheuselessbird]

Also, the 3 children's souls were used to create the characters in the other world. See how there were two female children and one male child. The boy became the other father and the two girls became the two acrobatics. Mr Bobinski didn't have a person to become him so he was just a bunch of rats. I think Wyborn is quite an important character in the movie, just think of all of the important stuff he tells Coraline about his great aunt and all that. She probably finds out another way in the book but I haven't read it so...

[@ambiguoussarcasm]

Good theory!

[@sincerelysof]

Yeah, I think so too! I feel like they created Wyborn because including everything that happened in the book probably wouldn’t fit the timeframe. Or because it’s a film for children, it’s easier to understand what is going if there’s a character that just tells you what is happening.

[@sallytheuselessbird]

@@sincerelysof The fact you say it's a film for children is funny to me..

[@sincerelysof]

Chloe Smith I know, I know😂. But that’s what they are claiming it to be.

[@the6597]

That's really cool! Tragic, but cool. I think other Wybie was another doll filled with sand, since that's what his hand disintegrates into, and that'd also be why he doesn't talk.

[@falls1974]

Me: *sees the other mom transforming* Also me: ''Honestly if I saw that damn thing in my living room I'd stomp on it until it was a small brown stain ''

[@chihiroandchiaki8591]

4:42

[@Bell.luvsuu]

@@chihiroandchiaki8591 i-

[@cjdemetrius8265]

Top 10 trends?

[@roaryes7536]

There would be another brown stain if it happened to me

[@dagrassyboi4745]

"it's just a small brown stain"

[@TailsIsDisappointed]

This was when "kids" movies were made by people with enough balls to traumatize us.

[@shannonharvey8300]

true

[@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398]

Oh Yeah Tails my boy... We all been there.

[@silentkiller944.]

Yeah because Laika and Henry Selick just HAD to traumatize everyone again

[@thejudge.2745]

Well, Balls and Boobs.

[@emptyteacup8228]

FACTS

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

*_Back when kids movies like Coraline and Monster House can traumatized the audience in a creative way more than every horror movies nowadays._*

[@BeeWaifu]

@Raggy123 I'm pretty sure they were referencing that horror movies nowadays are just about jumpscares and screaming loudly.

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

@Raggy123 Despite I'm born being as a Gen Z, I'm not one of them. They are just sickening of how trendy sensitive they are. Society is depends whether if it shows how the times changes or remained the same. There a lot of artistic kids movies like Isle Of Dogs or Spider-Man: Into The Spider-Verse.

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

@@BeeWaifu Also, not all horror movies are just jumpscares. Have you ever heard of The Shining or Get Out? The Shining is a psychological horror that felt too real. Get Out has no jumpscares but rather a surreal horror that is very different to other horror movies.

[@ceelmcl]

@@poweroffriendship2.0 I think he was just talking about a lot of horror movies lately

[@BeeWaifu]

@@poweroffriendship2.0 Horror movies 'NOWADAYS'.

[@rabidsquirrel4702]

I couldn’t sleep for weeks after watching Coraline as a kid. Looking back, I wish more kids movies nowadays would take the risks this one did.

[@KittycatKye]

Same. I also wish they still made slasher movies today. Like the ones from the 80s and 90s.

[@egg7247]

My baby sister is 4 and she adores Coraline, I'm surprised she's not scared at all

[@basedbattledroid3507]

I was actually more emotionally scarred by the trailer than the film, I think it spoiled a lot of things for me and the film had a calmer atmosphere at points whereas the trailer was just sort of full suspense. But regardless, I couldn't sleep for months, and I completely forgot what the movie was even called, it was only 2 years later I rediscovered it and decided to watch it, and I was prepared to be scared straight back to my preteen phase, but I didn't really find myself having that reaction, although I can see why people were creeped out by it. Still though, I regret not seeing it at the cinema because it's got to be one of my all-time favorites now that I've seen it. I hope Laika have another big box office hit one day, they're so dedicated and they deserve a lot more admiration than they've gotten.

[@arthurfisher1857]

@Jeremy here, have a cookie you big brave boy you🍪

[@luckidoo6897]

I wonder if it's the case nowadays...

[@ZoologyFan2023]

There was actually a deleted scene where after Coraline saved her parents, they first acted like they don't know what she was talking about before stopping and said how proud they are of her before telling her that they're going to go out for pizza in order to celebrate her "victory". I liked to think that Caroline's mother knew what Caroline was talking about because she was smiling at her after giving Caroline the gloves she wanted meaning (to me) that is her way of saying thank you to her.

[@amelon1803]

Fun fact: According to a behind the scenes thing I saw awhile back, the director stated that the reason why Wybie was included was so that way Coraline wouldn't walk around talking to herself. I don't remember the exact details but Neil Gaiman approved the character's inclusion.

[@queenfopsie5442]

Whyborne (or however you spell it) was implemented to show a bit more of Coraline's personality as for a good portion of book she's alone. Movies can't just have random narration so therefore, more characters implemented

[@stephaniec.6399]

I heard Gaiman wanted him to be included because he felt Coraline talked to herself quite a bit, so it's all good

[@keyanstoney1742]

Foxiana 123 at least they gave him a personality so that you wouldn’t know unless you read the book

[@reliomese2873]

I think its Yvorne

[@njrk97]

@@stephaniec.6399 As other mentioned you could have the angle of her talking to the cat once she realized it can talk in the other world, but ultimately i don't find his inclusion to be much of a issue. It did feel like they could of maybe done more with him in terms of plot, but i think he was also there to be part of a good ending, her parents are less stressed, she is happier, and she actually has another kid her age to hang out with now, but yeah it could have been cool to see whyborne enter the other world aswell, maybe even have the story that he went in when he was younger, but didn't return enough times for the Beldam to offer the button eyes thing, so he was more of the mind it was a dream he had as a kid.

[@beefromashroom]

Unpopular opinion: I actually really like Wybie Idk, I just have a thing for weird/creepy/quirky characters

[@hansruhlmann454]

Same!

[@violid1085]

*Dead Things*

[@Theravingranter]

He's possibly that way due to literal isolation and having no friends his age at all. He doesn't even mention going to school with Coraline. He's probably homeschooled and kept under lock and key. Coraline is the first girl or even child he's ever seen and he doesnt know how to act.

[@joeldawson5392]

Literally all these comments need to be put on r/notliketheothergirls

[@Theravingranter]

@@joeldawson5392 Nah. I'm exactly like other girls, I have sympathy for an outcast even if they aren't real. Coraline actually would belong on that board as she is so desperate to be different, i.e the blue hair and gloves.

[@problematicprincess6270]

They're a couple ? I've spent 10 years thinking they were just best friends lol

[@Theravingranter]

Why not both?

[@problematicprincess6270]

@@Theravingranter I guess so

[@xryeau_1760]

I always thought they were just business partners

[@Theravingranter]

@@xryeau_1760 They are. :D friends and coworkers

[@xryeau_1760]

@@Theravingranter True

[@briandaaranda9735]

I think that Coraline is the reason why the parents seem “douchy” at the start. She takes them for granted and she’s right at that age where they’re no longer her heroes, but the ones who never do anything fun with her or for her, even when they’re just trying to make ends meet and aren’t opposed to a nice gesture when they’re less stressed. The whole perspective is that of a child and that’s why Coraline also reacts to things with a “huh, guess this is what it is”. Neil Gaiman himself has said that he finds it funny that kids aren’t too terribly scared with the book or movie, but adults are, and that’s because the world is big and scary for kids. To them, this might be a regular Tuesday, whereas adults are more aware of the “normalcy” of things and can tell something is wrong in the Other World right away.

[@101onions5]

First of all: *DISGUSTANG* Second of all: That cat needs to be petted more

[@TheVengo111]

Totally, pussies need to be petted orherwise they'll go to the other side for pleasure...

[@loydanieves3159]

@@TheVengo111 Nice one dude

[@linkthepig4219]

No it eat rat

[@ckennedy9356]

I hate you

[@blenderi1235]

I JUST NOTICED THE DOLL IN THE START WAS THE TWIN SISTER BEFORE IT WAS MADE INTO CORALINE DOLL

[@mlaluna2119]

OMG SO DID I, I ABSOLUTELY NEVER NOTICED THAT AND I'VE WATVHED THIS MOVIE LIKE 5 MILLION TIMES AND I JUST REALIZED THIS OMG LOLZ

[@lilwoofs]

blenderi ME TOO!

[@coyraig8332]

@@mlaluna2119 5 million times?!?!? Are you insane?!?!?

[@gxbebtw]

@@coyraig8332 is called exaggeration

[@coyraig8332]

@@gxbebtw it's called a joke

[@Mathee]

I don't think your analysis of Wyborne is entirely accurate; the main reason he was added, is due to transition from book to movie. With a book, you can have a lot of information and character thoughts relayed through the writing itself, but you can't do that with a movie. The well scene would have either been very bland and boring without Wyborne, or would have consisted of Coraline talking to herself, which is something that generally ruins the movie illusion. So, at the very least, Wyborne provides a tool to relay information and, as you said yourself, it's him showing up to get the doll back that makes Coraline realize that the doll is a spy (the doll was another thing added to the movie) Finally, I don't think it's entirely fair to sum up Wyborne's contribution in the climax as just "he throws a rock on the hand", it makes it seem like he just showed up out of nowhere, when in the movie, he shows on his bike, in a scene mirroring his meeting with Coraline, and even uses the pliers from the slug collecting scene, to grab the hand away from Coraline. Then we get a struggle, with the hand attacking Wyborne and making him roll to the well, and Coraline trying to use a blanket to grab the hand again, but failing, and THEN Wyborne smashes it. As a side note, while Coraline's parents don't remember the events in the other world, you CAN see some changes in them as the days pass; Coraline's dad is usually very doting on Coraline, saying a song for her while serving dinner, humoring her stories about the other world and such, with Coraline rejecting this affection, complaining that she's "not five anymore". You can mostly see the hint of a change in Coraline's mother during the car ride and before leaving for groceries, where she's trying to engage with Coraline and make up for the recent neglect, but Coraline turning her down after not getting the gloves

[@Thatguy-ft-dog]

I assume you have a valid point but I ain't reading all that

[@cow167]

@@Thatguy-ft-dog I read all that and they do lol

[@davisthegamelord]

3:32 well theres kind of a reason why they have this outdated tech. You see in the film it's never out right said but its implied that the family had and accident (coraline's real mother is seen with a neck brace) and they dealing with financial problems from the medical bills, they probably have the old tech because it was cheaper.

[@flo1140]

I thought it was a turtleneck

[@davisthegamelord]

@@flo1140 I thought so too, but if you look closely you can see it's a brace

[@rubyrude.infinite]

@@flo1140 I thought it always was a brace, then I saw her point to her neck when she said "Then we had the accident". Then looking in detail it was Indeed a brace.

[@joaovitorfarinabraga690]

That’s a good excuse but don’t they work as flower catalyst, so should the computer be better than her cellphone ?

[@davisthegamelord]

@@joaovitorfarinabraga690 well if you're strapped for cash sometimes you gotta take what you can get

[@LizGridleyArtist]

I definitely feel differently about the parents - their side story of having a PRESSING deadline.... I feel it. And the second you pass your deadline I do feel a 'release' or huge shift in my own personality, the stress isn't over but when you pass something huge like that - you get to breathe again and that's why they get to feel happy family time at the end

[@yunamchill9169]

Hehehehe, me right now... I'm full into my bloody internship, soon thesis defense/graduation and I'm a totally different person. So much stress

[@WxreGxbrixl]

Steve:"And how do you think Wyborne reacts?" Wyborne: *SIREN SOUNDS*

[@vaneraze8685]

Lol

[@jesusreincarnatedin2006]

My parents thought it was a harmless kids movie and then I was scared shitless at the age of 8

[@skullcandy5409]

I watched it on my fifth birthday loved it ever since! (Although back then it did give me and my friends NightMares)

[@lenlenlenlene]

@@skullcandy5409 same.

[@birdbones5205]

I watched this when I was 3 and loved it ever sense. The mom was traumatised

[@lenlenlenlene]

@@birdbones5205 wow.

[@birdbones5205]

@@lenlenlenlene it never give me nightmares and I memorized the whole film

[@mitchellarmstrong4210]

3:49 Steve: the two sisters Most of the people watching: how many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man!

[@Rose-ef2cm]

“THEY’RE LESBIANS, HAROLD”

[@adriancontreras7523]

Two people living together: *exist* Modern society: oBvIoUsLy GaY¡ REEEEEEEE!

[@cgkase6210]

Aren't they sisters on stage?

[@Rose-ef2cm]

@@adriancontreras7523 The author of the original book literally said they're gay tho.......it may not be overt due to the book being aimed at kids and given the time period the book was written in and when the movie was made, they obviously couldn't have obvious gays. The 90s/early 2000's were a...wild time. A witch stealing children's eyes? Perfectly fine. Lesbians? Parents will throw a RIOT.

[@Rose-ef2cm]

@@cgkase6210 I actually can't remember, but if this is the case, I have a bit of a theory on this! So the movie takes place in the early 2000s, and these ladies are like........I'll say at the youngest in their 70's-80's. I'll say 75 for simplicity's sake, and let's say the movie takes place the year the book was published in 2002. And let's just say that their career was most popular in their 20's-30's (I'll say 25 again for simplicity's sake), so this would mean their career peaked 50 years ago. In 1952. Where being gay was a crime and you could be thrown in jail or a mental institution. Maybe they marketed themselves on stage as sisters to avoid people being suspicious that they're gay so they wouldn't lose their jobs and be arrested/institutionalized in an asylum and forced to go through conversion therapy. It's rather sad that they might have had to pretend to be sisters so they could live together and perhaps be affectionate and just pass it off as familial love for their own safety, now that I think about it.

[@imparanoiiid]

I would have hated a cliched bratty coralline learning to appreciate what she has

[@xryeau_1760]

That's... kind of what the movie already is

[@imparanoiiid]

Not really

[@xryeau_1760]

@@imparanoiiid That's pretty much what the plot is, it's just that the cliches are scrubbed from the characters and the premise

[@elvingearmasterirma7241]

@@xryeau_1760 Not really? I suppose it is up for interpretation. But I always saw it as a coming of age story mixed with all the other genre mixed in. Learning that reality isnt always perfect, learning how to interact and deal with other people, especially your parents when they go through rough bits. And how trying to keep that childish wonder filled world? Yea it can be destructive.

[@urgae9125]

She’s somewhat of a brat, that’s true, but I hate the cliche of ‘Bratty kid gets the pulp beaten out of them bc obviously it isn’t the parent’s fault that she’s a little shit, so she learns better.’ Having her the way she is now feels more organic, since she’s more relatable to people, and she provides a learning experience through this lens. Besides, wanting one pair of gloves isn’t that bratty. Acting like a passive-aggressive shit by talking about the Beldam is. Not to mention wanting food that’s different, as she doesn’t have the same pallet as her parents, and just wanting to do normal kid things isn’t either. She played the role of the kid who’s parents are hearing her, but never listening. But now that I’ve rambled, let me get back on topic: Most brats go ‘I don’t act that way, so I won’t listen.’ With the way they painted her, those bratty kids will latch on since they “understand her struggles.” They’re more likely to listen to the message properly, and thus, will learn much more openly

[@scraub8913]

I always loved how some of the Other characters weren't 100% controlled by the Beldam, and tried to help Coraline despite the Beldam's influence.

[@Silentgrace11]

Id say the apparent “change of heart” wasn’t quite what it seemed for the parents. They had just moved, and probably spent a lot of money moving, only to have their first gig while in the new home be not particularly lucrative. They were struggling to get it off the ground with a reasonable time crunch, and thus they were stressed and snippy. At the end of the film they accomplished their goal, and thus were much more lax and able to spend more time with their daughter. I’d imagine their lives kind of wanes and ebbs accordingly, and is something Coraline is already accustomed to - but in amidst of a sudden move, to a place she doesn’t particularly like, it just makes it all the worse for her, and all the more for the Beldam to feed on.

[@ramennoodledude4051]

One thing I loved about the movie is that they never really thought to stop thinking hey do you thinks kids will be traumatized? Like they went further and beyond even if it was a cartoon

[@XxXShadowchanXxX]

From what I heard the movie is actually a toned-down version from the book.

[@michaelhenry3234]

@@XxXShadowchanXxX Yeah, the book is even more bleak and horrifying.

[@volfreude2637]

well this isn't supposed to be a book for Little children in the first place.

[@beyondviolet]

Michael Henry they wanted it to be presentable enough for kids I guess

[@michaelhenry3234]

@@beyondviolet Yeah, it's a YA book I think. So it wasn't meant for small children.

[@cadymartin3760]

"he pulled a loooonnng face, and mother didn't like it" this freakin line disturbs me to this day, this is one of my favourite kids horror movie, and honestly, this movie should be rated PG13 or something. But ooooh that line, and how the other mother forced him to smile, I pity Wybie, even though he's going to one day be a worldwide cereal killer. Edit: thx for the likes guys, I've NEVER gotten these many 😆😆

[@cadymartin3760]

@@gingerxx4205 yes, that poor cereal.

[@Piximae]

But he was referring to other Wybie, not the one in the real world who stalks Coraline. Although he states at the end "it wasn't my idea" while looking at the cat. That cat is taking him places...

[@cadymartin3760]

@@Piximae o-o woah

[@kennedylareign]

Cady Martin everybody hide your Frosted Flakes from this kid

[@cadymartin3760]

@@kennedylareignwhat if i said he already killed your frosted flakes?😈

[@mechajay3358]

_"You'll never look at buttons the same way again."_ Looking down at my button sweater Me: *AHHHHHHH!*

[@yeetyeet8792]

Me looking at my asshole *WHAT THE FU-*

[@rain-yu4qr]

Looking at lalaloopsys NO NO NO

[@CallistaYip]

CaveTown Potato Agh when I was young, that shit fucked me up after watching the movie. I forced my parents to bury my lalaloopsy doll in the dirt, to “get rid of the satanic evil.” They obviously didn’t, but pretended they did, and just kept the doll in a box for several years.

[@rain-yu4qr]

Callista Yip lmao sorry to hear that

[@genericname2747]

*looks at the buttons I've sewn onto the bodies in my basement* AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH

[@migweegwee2824]

If you watch this movie again, pay attention to the Other Mother's Clothing. It shifts from a fuzzy grey sweater (that kinda looks similar to a spider egg) into her final outfit that resembles a black widow spider. Love this movies atmosphere and attention to detail

[@DreamerDanielsun]

3:28 There’s actually a reason that Coraline’s mother uses a flip phone (and not to mention a laptop) while her father uses an 80’s style computer. It’s explained in a deleted scene. To sum it up, Coraline’s mom tells the dad that he should’ve gotten a laptop by now otherwise his data wouldn’t have gotten deleted. (A follow up to that one scene where Coraline accidentally shut off the power in the house, causing her dad to lose the data on his computer.) So basically Coraline’s father is mostly an oldie kind of person. Sticking with the old technology he’s comfortable with. In fact there’s a lot of deleted scenes that adds context and interesting interactions/dialogue. It’s a surprise and a shame there isn’t an uncut version of this film. They transition so well with the undeleted scenes.

[@lollyyolo7587]

"thanks for the correction that spink and forcible are not sisters" *continues to call them sisters* BTW this isn't something that legitimately bugs me, I just found it funny.

[@edgelordmcgee]

Well, considering that he probably made it all as one video (separated for copyright issues) I think he was using the original footage, with the beginning added later :D

[@sofiepolster6640]

I saw that too and automatically went to the comments to see if anyone else noticed that.

[@daveholland6293]

Womp womp

[@fukkthisnewupdate8882]

Sintell Darkwood that was exactly what I was going to say

[@chillmorte]

@@edgelordmcgee yeah this is the only acceptable answer to him doing this

[@marsupialsofmars3886]

Neil gaiman has always written lgbt+ characters, he was a big ally in the 80s. At least from what I've read. It wasnt an afterthought

[@StardustLeo]

Yeah even when I first watched the "sisters" it seemed more like an "I want to make these characters openly LGBT but then I'd piss off the soccer moms so vague it is" thing than an afterthought.

[@nutriacubica]

Just like with good omens, its like not implied but you know there's some love in there with Aziraphale and Crowley

[@chloepechlaner7806]

@@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth I mean, his wife is bisexual.

[@daveholland6293]

An ally of POZ LOADS

[@chloepechlaner7806]

@@daveholland6293 I dont see what that has to do with anything

[@Hammerhead4]

Fun fact! Most people speculate that the weird chorus singing soundtrack is french! But it’s not a language at all! It’s complete gibberish! Made up words being sung to give us a creepy unknown feeling!!!!

[@flyingstonemon3564]

As a francophone I was trying to understand the lines for a long time but I heard "tweely" clearly most of the time the rest doesn't sound like English or French but the accent in the melody does sound close to french

[@lizzziefrfr]

Actually there is one song that does have lyrics, it is called “Exploration” and it is the one that’s played while Coraline is exploring the house. It’s actually a great song

[@bongbong785]

I'm pretty sure i heard the lyrics "very silly girl" in the end song tho

[@flyingstonemon3564]

@@bongbong785 and I heard "béni soit les lois" yet the lyrics are made to make you pick up stuff that wasn't said

[@izzyizzy3551]

Steve: what is wrong with the child’s face *the other dad stating: she put a looooooooong face and mother didn’t like it*

[@Marnige]

Oh damn, didn't notice that.

[@S3NDZZ]

3:44 The 'Coraline' novel was written in the early 2000s, so having the technology that they had was understandable.

[@fuckufucku1679]

3 words to describe this channel, dark, smart, and entertaining

[@insertmemorableusernameher6795]

You never described your "channel, dark, smart, and entertaining"

[@jrlopez1027.]

Wait, why dark?

[@sun_sign]

That's 4 words

[@beyondviolet]

Cira Commie should have used the & symbol

[@fuckufucku1679]

GraffitiTurtle 2 more words, English teacher

[@TheArchDandy]

I don't comment usually, but I want to offer a possible correction as far as the origial author of Coraline. It is pretty safe to assume that Neil Gaiman did in fact mean to imply the two ladies as a possible couple. For example, in his Sandman comic series, published around 1989-1996, there were many cases of LGBTQ characters, though it was for an older audice. There were even a pair of eccentric women who live together and nobody can tell if they are sisters, lovers, friends and so on- though the reader gets something like an answer. He's often included characters of many different orientations, and even put out a kids book in the style of an old fairy tale a few years ago called the Sleeper and the Spindle that featured a romantic female kiss. That got quite the pushback but people defended it. Coraline was written before something like that would have been explicitly stated in a children's book. More likely than not, Coraline wouldn't have needed to know and female couples of older generations often did have ambiguous relationships out of nessesity. It was probably meant to invoke that time period/feeling more than anything.

[@VoytekPavlik]

The gilf couple

[@Alex-ko4vh]

My mom made me watch this when I was like 7. Taught me alot about not going where I wasn't supposed to go.

[@mrsfahrenheit]

right?😂😂😂👌🏻 my parents used to tell me the stories from „the Struwwelpeter“ book (a very traumatizing german book to teach kids not to do shit)

[@theoptimistictabby2785]

I'm sorry, she MADE you?

[@ethnictendo]

... There are better ways.

[@madisonbrooks5793]

Wybie never actually "stalked" her, he followed her on one occasion and even then it wasn't really a secret he was just seeing what she was doing. They were joking during the end.

[@dakotafriio]

Part 1: "They are in fact not sisters." Part 2: "She goes to the two sisters, Who give her a lucky charm." AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO NOTICED THIS?!?!?

[@boyisbored6421]

I think he said in the first part he had recorded it all in one go, splitting it into two parts to try to avoid copyright

[@Silver77cyn]

Yes.

[@elanmartin2495]

Hey Steve do you ever think you’ll review The Prince of Egypt? It’s one of my favorite movies (and it’s pretty mature for DreamWorks) and I’d love to see your perspective of it

[@sunny6280]

Elan Martin omg YES

[@rustyshaculford1882]

here's another entertaining review of Prince of Egypt to pass the time kzbin.info/www/bejne/iH7IpH-hm7ihatU

[@venomations2520]

I remember when i first saw it and it was really good movie defenitly one of my fav's...

[@PyroGothNerd]

I don't think Neil Gaiman would pull a J.K. Rowling, as he has had LGBT characters in his books since the 80's.

[@LucyLioness100]

I’m sure you know it’s a joke 🙃 Neil Gaiman is a grand writer though I didn’t care much for ‘Neverwhere’ but I think it’s cause I didn’t want to be forced to read the book

[@tflo3482]

Gaiman isn't into the whole political clout chasing thing like Rowling. He's also a better writer...

[@otterpopgames7]

@@tflo3482 Hoo boy.... I will not disagree, BUT I'd like to see a theme park based around one of his books

[@urgae9125]

FreezerPopGames 07 Ah, yes, constant eye gore coaster. Tbh, I see them as more equal writers, but J.K’s current behavior is degrading her previous work. When she was doing it to make her children happy, you could just feel the passion she had. When she got towards the end, she lost the true passion she had, and was like ‘Damn, I just need to push this out.’

[@ramenrampage5049]

hints the name

[@dippy4988]

Regarding the old computer Coraline's dad uses, there's a deleted scene where Coraline's mom asks him to upgrade his computer to a laptop.

[@CT-Gossamer]

If you listened closely during the doll making scene in the beginning, you could hear the other mother practicing her voice. Gives me chills.

[@Joshkid2000]

11:59 There's a theory that coraline never escaped the other world, that's the true reason the cat was able to disappear and be self aware

[@good__person]

Where i can read that?

[@rapolasra934]

Now I'm not going to sleep YOU BITCH

[@yeetyeet8792]

I HAD A NIGHTMARE ASSHOLE

[@urgae9125]

Damn, y’all blaming a person when you could have ignored the comments.

[@yeetyeet8792]

@@urgae9125 I cant ignore it when it's the first comment

[@Rose-ef2cm]

The difference between JK saying Dumbledore is gay and the elderly lesbian couple is that we actually see them together, living together and having a life with one another. Dumbledore was never ONCE given a single scene where he was with someone he loved romantically. Even when it was plot relevant with the new fantastic beasts movie, it was just blatantly ignored. So no. I wouldn’t compare this to JK just saying a character is gay for forced diversity because at least we actually see these two together. Sure they may not be overtly romantic, but it’s more than JK gave us.

[@katherynkarn8281]

Honestly, my grandparents aren't that overly romantic, so I can totally see the old ladies being a couple. They bicker just like my grandparents haha

[@Rose-ef2cm]

@@katherynkarn8281 Exactly!! Most couples who have been together for say 40+ years dont really treat each other like all Special Romantic type of stuff. Not bc they don't love each other anymore, but mainly bc they've been together for so long, they've seen the worst of each other, and there's just...no real reason to do all that "gotta only present the best parts of myself" type of stuff most do when they first start to date/when they first get married. Things are much more laid back and casual, and I really love that abt older couples tbh lol

[@insertname1667]

Rose still a little too out of the blue for me and I would actually consider it very much like JK, since even given that couples who have been together aren't usually still what I would describe as "lovey dovey", there's usually some sign of affection or tell that they're not simply just tolerating one another for some sort of benefit.

[@Rose-ef2cm]

@@insertname1667 Eh, I can see where people might not see it due to the lack of affection, but Dumbledore didnt even like.........talk abt Grindlewald (idk how to spell it and frankly i dont care lol). Even when their relationship was plot relevant in the latest movie, there's no talk about it. Plus, old couples bicker lol. They mostly have banter that def seems like they're just tolerating each other when they really do love each other. It's practically a trope at this point. Sorry if I come across as like, trying to shove this down your throat or whatever, but as a gay person who is legit pissed when I see queer baiting like in Harry Potter or Voltron, these ladies just don't feel the same to me. Maybe it's more affectionate in the books? The performance of a voice actor can def make something that was playful teasing sound more harsh, and this movie DID come out in the early 2000s, so it could have been toned down.

[@insertname1667]

Rose well I mean I'm bisexual myself so I'm usually even harsher with my scrutiny towards this sort of stuff (mainly because the idea of two people being good close friends seems to be dying out in favour of either gaybaiting or just flat out making a gay coupled when there wasn't one originally), and well it's a trope because it's an actual thing which I'd argue is a very common relationship style here in the UK between everyone regardless of their relationship status (so lovers/friends/siblings/etc) which is why I'm dubious to find this sort of behaviour even close to hinting at any sort of romantic interest because almost everyone engages in once they've known someone for some time.

[@PatTriesAgain]

The puppet at the begging of the movie is supposed to resemble the sister of Whyborne's grandmother

[@alexblackmore7744]

Given it's Neil Gaiman we're talking about, how heavily coded the characters are, and the fact he has written queer characters into his works for years... Yeah, pretty safe to say this isn't a Rowling-esque retcon.

[@chaseevans3529]

Movies other people found terrifying as kids: Monster house Coraline James and the giant peach Nightmare before Christmas My weird self: I loved all of these as a kid and still do and I always found it strange when people said that they thought it was scary. Coraline always stuck out to me though because of the intro with the doll being made. It remains my favorite scene in the movie to this day

[@coveragepuns]

Joke's on you, Wybie is my favorite character.

[@TheRedTigon]

Coverage Puns I love your pfp

[@blacklight7726]

Same sksksksk

[@coveragepuns]

@@TheRedTigon T h a n k .

[@nanukdieerste1290]

Mine too

[@aliaelamin917]

Mine too xD

[@pacoramon9468]

The ghost girl have that face because that was the face she had when she died.

[@jojoreference1012]

What a shame

[@jebacpis869]

Thats fucking dark

[@SandBombHidan]

I was thinking that too.

[@adriett4596]

Great review dude! Also I’d like to mention that It’s likely that the author Neil Gaiman did intend for miss spink and miss forcible to be a lesbian couple. He’s been very open with including lgbt characters. Sometimes it’s very blunt like in sleeper and the spinal but other times not so much like in good omens.

[@fatcat6989]

Adriett who’s the LGBTQ character in good omens?

[@wackwimdow5594]

@@fatcat6989 Crowley and Aziraphale, Neil Gaiman said that they are in love but he doesn't say that they are gay men because they don't identify as such, we can see scenes where Crowley presents female (Nanny Astoreth and in the crufixon scene) and during the show he wears clothes made for women (the glasses, the pants and he wore heels too), so we assume that he could be genderfluid, we don't know Aziraphale's gender but i personally say non binary. Also, there are some parts where they show that they clearly like each other, the nazis in the church scene and "to the world" are my favourite examples. Also Pollution uses they/them pronous and Lord Beelzebub uses he/him pronous even tho he is interpreted by a female actress. (I think there's more but i can only think of those)

[@fatcat6989]

SirUnity cool thank you for telling me 😊

[@daveholland6293]

Med resistant aids

[@JKHERPS]

Adriett dude no one cares

[@dmittleman9757]

I was so obsessed with this movie and novel when it first came out - and I still love it. There were some behind the scenes that explain different aspects of the movie and differences compared to the novel, and Neil Gaiman said this: “[Wybie] is there, so you don’t have this little girl talking to herself,” Whether or not Wybie is a successful way to give Coraline a chance to express her character is up for debate, but I personally love him. I love both the novel as a great story and lesson, and the movie as a great adventure.

[@kagekun1198]

What drew me to Coraline was the concept of a mirror world (like Silent Hill). The other world mirrored the real world in every way including the characters. For example, the real world neighbors were helpful and provided tools and useful advice. The other world neighbors were only enemies and obstacles. The real world parents and Wybie were never helpful to Coraline, but their other world counterparts were her allies (the best they could anyway) in evading the Other Mother.

[@tylerthetiger2659]

This cartoon was way ahead of it's time in 2009🔥

[@tylerbell1858]

Tyler the tiger life your user name and profile pic

[@coolsmcfrosty2741]

Neil Gaiman has a history of including queer characters in his other books, so I wouldn’t consider this a Rowling.

[@Jackylification]

Cools McFrosty as far as I know, he also doesn’t have a habit of retconning/revealing stuff after the fact so I’d believe the one or two things he said. I’d always thought they were sisters who’s husbands had died but I just had aunts like that

[@pyroshayniac1090]

Neither would I. Gaiman has always seemed very genuine to me.

[@AlaskanBookwyrm]

There's two lesbian couples, a professional drag queen and a trans woman (who has to deal with homophobic relatives) just in 'A Game of You' alone, Gaiman's a hardcore badass when it comes to representation.

[@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth]

ArtisticLicense | Also a gay lovemaking scene in American Gods and the entire implied romance all throughout Good Omens.

[@solus8685]

Gaiman _Gaiman_ *Gay man*

[@musicredsubaru]

The thing that amazed me about this movie when I saw it in the theater was seeing it in 3D. It was so crisp and clear that I forgot that I was watching a movie, not a gigantic moving diorama or puppet show. The 3D movies I had seen before used those red-and-blue paper glasses, which distracted me, but this movie didn't. As for _Coraline_ being disturbing, well, isn't that the point? It has a great Halloween feel to it.

[@Bra1n__St3w]

The best i can describe Coraline as a character is well “if you look at red flags through rose colored glasses, they all just look like flags”

[@TimidIzzy]

I like looking at the sudden change to the parents' personality is just Coraline realizing it's not as bad as she thought. Imagine the movie from her perspective. If she's unhappy with her parents, what if she begins to stress just how poor her life at home is in her mind? She could be overlooking the good parts because she's unhappy. But she makes it to the end and is able to recognize what she had been ignoring.

[@GallowglassVT]

Neil doesn't strike me as the type to retroactively diversify his characters. He's too self-aware for that.

[@daveholland6293]

He embraces the POZ?

[@GallowglassVT]

Dave Holland your point being...?

[@daveholland6293]

@@GallowglassVT gays be liking bug chasing fam, they love those STDs

[@thesaltiestspoon]

I remember that the lala loopsie dolls were being advertised around the time coraline came out. After a movie against buttons being sewn in your eyes, you'd think they'd be a little less popular

[@rosewaterlily2886]

"The dogs were just incredibly cute and made me smile" :| Quite the smile you got there

[@BravoTango-vt8em]

The fact that Wybie exists is more so for a lore related reason, mainly to explain to explain the cat’s affection for him. The cat acts in a way where he actually tries to protect Wybie from the beldam because he’s actually a reincarnation of the first child to escape the dimension. That’s why Wybie and his grandmother’s backstory exists.

[@dirtbugs2030]

The parents being super good at the end sparked the theory of Coraline never leaving the other side

[@arachnidterror]

i think Wyborn was added to the film to make it less scary and "isolated", like it's been in the book, where you as Coraline feel just lonely with all this scary and disturbing things going on.

[@gwanael34]

For the IBM computer, let's say this is the mid 2000's. The guy is a relatively poor and unacomplished writer that is on the daily grind. He can't really afford a better computer and to be honest, does he really need one ? He just writes on it, it's basically a digital typewriter but he doesn't need any better. If it works, don't change it i guess.

[@koatam]

The mom was a writer too and she had a modern laptop. I think the dad was just weird and preferred the antiquated technology. There are people that still use manual Typewriters.

[@kaiyamya9882]

@@koatam Didn't she run a blog/website, though? I could understand it if the mother was a digital writer and the dad sent stuff off to be printed. You don't need a modern computer to type up a print copy.

[@Spongebrain97]

I assumed it was a stylistic choice like how in batman cartoons technology is all over the place

[@TheJawesomeOne]

Exactly what I was thinking: If it ain't broke, don't fix it

[@billiejay2253]

Did the hands of the piano break the dads jaw?! Traumatized.

[@typo1345]

Fun fact: the singers in the opening are composer Bruno Coulais and Terri Hatcher, the voice of the Other Mother, which both portray the other mother and other father

[@DoctorTex]

“The scene with the dogs was cute and made me smile” *The screen shows Steve obviously not smiling*

[@earthboundfan9446]

Colour pink:exists 6 year old boys: 3:16

[@insertcurrentmemehere8855]

I'm really fascinated by the world of coraline and I wish there was a sequel

[@squishy1333]

Same

[@otterpopgames7]

It'd be nice if there was but, just like NBC (Nightmare Before Christmas) It works better as a stand-alone film and having a sequel would just ruin the grandeur of the first

[@TheRealNormanBates]

11:00 that is not exactly true. Granted, another character could have filled in, but isn’t it Whyborn’s other self that helps Coraline escape?

[@lb2885]

I watched this movie when it first came out. I was around 6 years old and with the divorce of my parents and being separated from my twin sister for the first time in school, I was in a very vulnerable state. I watched it with my sister and father and it probably gave me some kind of trauma. We were so scared of this movie, dreaming of it several times and to even ask our mom about "our other mother" (she told us about this when we were older and that she was terrified by that). Over time we only remembered the button eyes. When we got older we asked ourselves "what movie was it that we were so scared of and they had button eyes?". After some research we found "Coraline" and rewatched it. And I pretty much fell in love with it. To this day everything with button eyes makes me uncomfortable but it still is one of my favorite movies.

[@slurpwis]

Somehow, despite watching this movie three times, I always missed the fact that the Coraline doll was used to spy on her.

[@toontic1543]

8:13 Uses the frowning expression to say he's smiled. Love it!!

[@temilleharris4521]

When he said why bother I sighed and said "He had the chance to say more like why were you born.."- and laughed a bit but I loved the vid

[@scribblit4686]

Woo! Worth the wait! Now we need him to do The Last Unicorn and The Hobbit (animated version, not the new one).

[@whysosleepyjoe2811]

This is a great film to watch around Halloween with the sense of something off… this is the film that makes me respect stop motion and how much time went into this to make it so smooth

[@Doubl_Troubl]

3:45 The reason why the dad has a old computer was explained in a deleted scene, he just doesn’t wanna spend money on a new computer. He’s probably had that computer ever since he was a child

[@rasm6644]

Yes i been waiting for this! :D love what you doing Steve and i have a little request. Please review "The secret of nimh" next ;)

[@dazzawesome]

Steve Reviews your reviews are dark, interesting, and amazing !!! Keep being yourself. I hope happiness and joy come your way my old friend.

[@TheoryWitch]

Okay, one other thing about the parents at the end: they STILL act irritable towards her. They never have a moment of, 'work can wait a moment, let's hear her story. Let's hear out her imagination.' Even after she saves them! If you'd put them about to get irritated and then a moment of pause and then they lend her a listening ear, I think that would've worked a little better

[@silashurd3597]

6:54 Thanks for the advice Steve! I can’t wait to do that at some point!😃

[@anneliesew4853]

5:54 you just skipped past the best scene in the movie. She closes the door, and all is silent for a moment, but the door is repeatedly banged on and she crawls as fast as she can through the crawl space, but the door gets closer and closer until she runs through the door, and shuts it, with the sound of the door slamming against the other door being heard.