The Mod That Saves Birth By Sleep: Better Battle System

[@StickmanSham]

all of this was streamed live on twitch, you can watch the full streams over at my Stream Archive: kzbin.info/aero/PLqXvBjCOY-kuCr56T9UMTWvuiTmlY2UAC MOD LINK/DESCRIPTION: www.nexusmods.com/kingdomheartsbirthbysleepfinalmix/mods/31 Speeds up combat with animation cancelling, faster flowing commands and combos, form change s, and bonuses for Critical Mode. - Animation Cancelling: Guard and Dodge can instantly cancel attacks and commands. - Combat Flow: Attacks and Commands flow into each other much more smoothly. - Improved invincibility of all alternate dodge and dodge follow-up abilities. - Added invincibility during Form Change animation and the startup of most slow commands (Zantetsuken, Geo Impact, Windcutter, etc.). This allows you to use well-timed commands to through boss attacks and punish them. - Improved camera view - Critical Mode Bonuses: The following bonuses are granted when playing on Critical mode Keyblade Attacks Hit Enemies Twice Critical Chance is increased, but Defense is lowered +50% Damage With Commands +100% CP and Munny Gain Recover from Status Effects faster Finish Boost Ability (x2) Reload Boost Ability Second Chance Ability Tip: In order to dodge out of a guard, the game makes you do an attack first. If you quickly tap X and then square, you will cancel your guard into an attack, and then quickly cancel that attack into a dodge.

[@finalfantasy50]

why didnt they delete the formchange animation? it would be way smoother to play if you didnt get interrupted every 10 seconds

[@pujabhardwaj8568]

Why do you not recommend to combine the birth by sleep ultimate mix mod and birth by sleep better battle system mod?

[@StickmanSham]

@@pujabhardwaj8568 ive got no idea what kind of unintended side effects might occur

[@krullachief669]

You had me at having actual s

[@ultraspinalki11]

​@@StickmanShamdo you know if this mod works on a physical PSP?

[@ruccsacc]

Mixing commands into your combos ironically makes it feel kinda like re:coded's approach to commands

[@alcole-holic8779]

Credit where it’s due, Re:coded did justice it’s physical commands. Some like Quick Blitz were already usable in BBS but the addition of fast attacks like the Dives and Chain Rave adding to Sora’s combos if done right. I have pulled a Chain Rave out mid-combo enough times for me to consider it the best physical command in the game

[@gabrielcastejon7914]

Re:Coded has such a fun combat system. If only 358/2 Days had the same system, it'd be one of my favorites.

[@alcole-holic8779]

@@gabrielcastejon7914 358 with a fluid and faster paced combat system would make it rival 3 for spot of “my favorite KH game”

[@keeganlafferty1395]

agreed, Re:Coded was the best in terms of physical commands, or even physical attacks in general, among the Command Deck games as it had actual unique combo attacks and the ability to chain in physical commands instead of just repeating the same 3 slashes the more (air) combo pluses you add and snapping you to the ground for certain commands

[@lpfan4491]

@@keeganlafferty1395 "Re:Com" wrong game, lol.

[@swapertxking]

this fucking feels and looks like its how real keyblade masters or experts would fight. smooth, seemless, and full of weaved spells and special attacks.

[@K82849]

Yeah, they tried to market the commands as a way of showing the full potential of keyblade wielders but it was dead on arrival

[@e69alpha]

I think kh3 did it best

[@karmiccrotal3480]

​@@e69alphaI'd say Re:coded is up there

[@KaosDeathLord]

Actually according to Yen Sid that is wrong, they'd make slower more methodical decisions vs like Sora and Riku swinging their shit around willy nilly.

[@Anotherone-rl3ok]

​@@KaosDeathLord Well Yensid is an horrible máster Who doesn't do anything in any game, he alqays IS sitting Talk what to do but no more, in Kh3 only separate the heartless of the main characters but never fight against them or any member of the organizations to help the guardians of light, something that Roxas Terra and Aqua do, and don't speak of DDD It was he's fault that Sora and Riku was in danger, he says that Sora pass the exam but don't give him the rank of máster because he says that Sora lose his powers. So his words has the same valeu as a mountain of trash

[@nekkro6879]

Just like what he said in the beginning. If you weren't paused after every action you do, this game would've been one of the fucking bees knees, and could've been a good competitor against KH2.

[@mitsunitaiko1742]

Re:coded was that competitor but too many people slept on it, which is a damn shame because the gameplay was amazing

[@wherearemypowers]

@@mitsunitaiko1742 True but the constant gimmicks and the failure to push the KH lore forward (which is not a bad thing btw) made a lot of people completely ignore the game. IMO it's easily the best handheld title in the Kingdom Hearts series.

[@KaedeLanyo]

@@mitsunitaiko1742 Great core gameplay, annoying gimmicks, worthless story.

[@kuroxiii9481]

Unfortunately we must constantly push the lore. If Disney thinks they didn't need Nomura's wild ride they would just mass produce V sequels

[@oni-linkle4880]

Have you seen how many stupid I frames the enemies get??? Hard disagree, and I LOVE THIS DUMB GAME I PLAYED THROUGH IT 4 TIMES

[@RushStudios101]

Seeing commands like Meteor and Geo Impact actually functioning like their high-tier status intends is... liberating

[@thebigchungus4515]

While it is interesting to see how much smoother the battle system flies by with this mod, it is still pretty disappointing that not a lot of commands have synergy with one another, which would promote more interesting and diverse playstyles. This is something I appreciate about ReCoded with how many commands and mechanics tend to synergize with one another, which seems to be a h.a.n.d staple considering how this also applies towards NEO TWEWY.

[@BusterBeachside]

Ah, I see you are also a man of culture

[@livenishikireaction]

all re:coded cody's are men of culture

[@BusterBeachside]

@@livenishikireaction Fair, but I'm talking about his mention of TWEWY, heheh

[@thatitalianlameguy2235]

Wait, they made neo twewy? Awesome

[@deatheater6222]

@@thatitalianlameguy2235 it came out two years ago

[@Simeo905]

"im ventus i can do whatever the fuck i want" - sham 2023

[@EggyEggtoast]

Lore accurate at this point

[@lowhp_comic]

@@EggyEggtoast except KH3 where everyone who isn't Sora is suddenly weak and incapable of finishing fights without Swolra there to save them 🤣

[@anthonysaylor8120]

2:48 I think being able to be on the same rules as the Bosses not only works to make the game feel fair, but it enhances moments where they play like YOU and pull out Cure. Especially considering the major bosses that literally using the same kinds of weapons as you, it bridges the ludo-narrative dissonance. All of which is exemplified with the Lingering Will V Terranort fight - in all but cape, you've become the Superboss of KH2FM, and now you REALLY get to feel like it.

[@Shounnify]

The Crazy thing is that bosses I-frames now kinda make sense with how much you can do with this mod

[@reaper7970]

When you make most useless commands actually useful:

[@aokyoutsuki7744]

In terms of player buffs, we only really need super armour/invincibility on high end skills, improving normal attack damage and speed are welcome. where enemies need to be less counter playish with their movesets, vanitas, MF, eraqus armour are big offenders

[@naysayerck5971]

said useless commands can literally one shot some of the toughest enemies, the delay was added FOR THAT REASON

[@notproductiveproductions3504]

Even of you didn’t play this game you should be able to tell this is a mod because Terra’s balance isn’t jinxed by the game he’s in

[@StickmanSham]

ignore the 2 minutes of blank screen at the end of the video, I chose the wrong render setting

[@StickmanSham]

this was all just a ploy to get y'all to watch the outro screen i worked so hard on. This was always the plan

[@damienkun8786]

​@@StickmanSham now sleep

[@knexell5894]

Now see this is what the Mysterious Figure fight should have been, a challenging encounter and not a Thunder Surging Breaking the Square button circus act.

[@naysayerck5971]

I did it without thunder surge when i was twelve, agreed it makes the fight seem more fun tho

[@Christian-gr3gu]

This is how in lore they actually fight

[@rustycookiepekka6875]

If so then whoever animates the next games cutscene fights needs to take notes because for we've yet to see any lore accurate fights(Closest were Recoded and KH2 as far as im aware).

[@berryAsda]

Animation cancels, mobility, camera angle change, this is a true keyblade master experience. The game certainly did push the psp to the max it could, but in the end it doesn't cut off very well just to be a port with how unpolished were the range of the commands, how some overlap, don't connect, and even some doesn't work properly like enemies teleporting or blocking an Ars Solum because it has openings and that you were sold out if the enemy hits you while finishing a command.

[@shadowldrago]

I love that while Terra's combos are visibly slower, each hit feels heavier. Which makes sense, given he's ostensibly the Fighter of the BBS Trio.

[@97dusk]

I had loads of fun with Birth by Sleep, but I imagine that if the game played like this, I'd have had even more fun with it! Watching the chat, though, makes me realize that I'm very much in the minority. I never realized that games like Birth by Sleep or Dream Drop Distance were so hated, and it's still kind of a surprise to me to some extent. I loved them both to pieces, and still do.

[@joshnicholsYT]

Same, I kinda disliked the command deck system but grew to love it. I can only guess that kh2 raised the bar so much for combat the handheld titles had to live up to it.

[@Vas0sky]

​@@joshnicholsYT One handheld did live up to the expectations of kh2, kh:recoded had an amazing cohesive combat system with the very same limited command deck setup that bbs and ddd use.

[@joshnicholsYT]

@@Vas0sky I have to say I can't give an opinion on re:coded, with the little to no story it contributed and also apparently it was conceptualized by a drunk Nomura I decided to never give it a try

[@Much_Ado]

​@@joshnicholsYT It gets bogged down by large swaths of gameplay gimmick worlds that completely change the way the game plays away from the actually fun command system, but in those worlds where you do get to play with it, it is _exceptionally_ fun

[@Daroga1]

This is me with Re:CoM. I love it so much but it's pretty hated and I'm not sure exactly why. I love innovation into the systems.

[@saincx0m9]

the only thing i've gathered from this is the fact old spinoff games do indeed need a remake

[@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32]

How to make terra actually useful in a future game: Make him the only character in the game to permit full magic and command cancel. Seriously, all it would take is that, and all physical commands turn from the worst to the absolute _best_

[@leon2550]

this mod actually makes mysterious figure look fun wtf

[@ijustbevibin0425]

BBS no mods has Better combat than kh1 and 2

[@leon2550]

@@ijustbevibin0425 sure little bro

[@acesamm]

@@ijustbevibin0425you do you

[@leonmystique9372]

​@@ijustbevibin0425 Aight, come back once you're done on Critical. I used to say that exact same until I finished the entire game on Critical.

[@apothisiii5549]

What a rancid take.

[@gablink5190]

It would be fun to see a MF fight with this mod, but its entirelly on the air.

[@blackliquidsorrow8249]

He did one

[@gablink5190]

@@blackliquidsorrow8249 i think i fogot then, i was on the streams.

[@notjeckup]

@@gablink5190is it not at 10:30?

[@niteriemcfarlane5285]

it is lol

[@BradsGonnaPlay]

Did you not watch the video lol

[@kefkaexdeath]

God bless Xendra. Now if only there were a way to give bosses actual revenge Values

[@RougeMephilesClone]

This makes every Keyblade wielder duel look like a duel between Keyblade wielders, and not a deranged boss fight for either the player or the boss. The fact that you still have to play well helps legitimize this mod. It also really brings out the strengths of all three playable characters. I need to get these games on PC someday.

[@throwdown1776]

Now if only we have a multiplayer mod for mirage arena.

[@masterseal0418]

Why is the thumbnail so cool tho? Anyways, I'm happy modders were able to improve BBS's battle system like they did with the secondary option to remove the Drop Meter in DDD. Terra is a lot more flexible and less irritating to play then master like he was before this mod; the frustrating boss fight against Terranort(Terra's Scenario) became very enjoyable, while Ventus and Aqua gained similar combo execution akin to Sora in KH3 and her iteration in the same game. I'd kill to see the scrapped Jungle Book world be fully created custom-wise by fans(and regaining it's OG assets), like how we got Quadratum and Insomnia from FFXV in KH3 btw!

[@alcole-holic8779]

Insomnia? Do you mean Yozora’s boss arena? If I recall correctly that’s actually based on the real location of Shibuya

[@masterseal0418]

@@alcole-holic8779 It was Noct's home city from Final Fantasy XV as mentioned in the comment above.

[@alcole-holic8779]

@@masterseal0418 I know that, I’m just wondering where it shows up in KH3. The only thing I can believe *might* be Insomnia is the place Yozora wakes up in while in the car

[@wakkaseta8351]

Amazing how even with this mod you're still likely to end up just constantly dodge rolling against Mysterious Figure.

[@alcole-holic8779]

This is actually pretty good looking even if I don’t know exactly what was changed to a T. But I can definitely see there’s smoother movement even for Terra, and I can appreciate making commands flow into your combos like, as another comment pointed out, in Re:coded. I loved how there was little delay between a swing and a physical type command, making abilities like Chain Rave and Judgement Triad reliable alternatives to a combo finisher in mob fights or when you want to save your Max Overclock for a better opportunity to attack

[@astralflan]

2:10 Not part of the mod but blocking meteors with Bladecharge looks really cool

[@6aubreyts6]

exactly my thought that part looked sick asf

[@cantbehelped]

Bro I didnt know exactly how much I needed this until I saw it in action. Time to get a real PC rig

[@calandula2007]

like you needed a high performance PC for running this 😂

[@megamanx1291]

This comment is funny

[@AshtranDubs]

The fact that you can break out of combos with block/barrier just like everything does in this game is cool

[@rimouskiii]

Never forget the moment on the actual stream for better battle system when you were fighting mf with Terra and you got hit with doom and lasers at the same time and got instakilled

[@underachieve2258]

I never really understood why the game wasn't like this, especially for Aqua who was supposed to be a Keyblade Master. Don't get me wrong, I loved playing as her but if she's supposed to be the best of the best as they say then how come she doesn't operate like a boss character? I feel like combining the commands AND the combos and not pausing after every single action is something they should already be doing to show why they're masters to begin with. They should be on-par with the bosses in abilities, not just in levels. I think that would make the game so much more fun.

[@TheAzulmagia]

Wow, the gameplay looks so snappy now. Not quite as easy to weave between skills as Re:Coded, but still a lot more responsive.

[@jerrynetworked1748]

This explosion at 8:06 must have felt so satisfying ngl. Landing mega flare always feels GOOD.

[@Sonicfalcon16]

5:21 Vanitas: Darkness awaits Ventus: See ya

[@Ethonra]

Terra has always been my favorite of the BBS Trio, and I must say: Speedster Terra is terrifying. That has to be the most panic-inducing thing any foe fighting Terra has ever seen. 18:54-19:18.

[@Blackpapalink]

Holy shit, if the bosses were designed more like Vanitas with this mod, it could be incredible.

[@AbstractReplayer]

Game suddenly turned into a 10/10

[@krisgeno8049]

Man this would be a godsend in the psp version, the pause after you do after using a command is a pain in mid to late game bosses because the gameplay turns into dodge roll/mine square spam and wait simulator (im looking at you eraqus)

[@TheGreatWoL103]

I just took the first look and instantly thought "Did....did Terra just use a normal? And he comboed with it on a BOSS?" Best mod 11/10

[@ARMarTy_]

Nice ! I would to see some expansions like custom commands and something similar for DDD ! Pretty hard to do I imagine, but maybe one day...

[@blackliquidsorrow8249]

Xendra mentioned having one but there was one technical issue holding them back

[@ARMarTy_]

@@blackliquidsorrow8249 Oh ok, hope it will be good in the future :)

[@MabinogiKHVidegamer]

I've been waiting for a mod like this to come out, and it just might be the best KH mod I've played. I'm having a blast going through BBS again, and I never thought that would happen again. If the same mod could be made for DDD then we'll be in the best timeline.

[@almightyrasen]

21:15 that was actually a big brain play by MF 💀

[@Drawerofstuff00]

Man, this almost feels like a whole new game!!!

[@jamierbb]

The darkness at the end is really immersive

[@megasoniczxx]

Kinda crazy how much better the battle system is after only changing a few values around. Shame you still can't do much of anything about the bosses though.

[@upcycledjr6528]

Just imagine if this was base bbs and not a mod

[@NinetyNineNo]

At 0:34 it's already looking awesome, brutal blast lift -> guard cancel -> aerial attack is dope

[@MrMeowstic7]

So this mod basically just gives the game re:coded combat. That's fun

[@SaltedMallows]

1:04 That's kinda badass it's like Nero's Exceed slash from DMCV a little bit

[@Chibi_Rikka]

You could call it the Better Birth by Sleep Experience, I suppose?

[@MusicalLuxEnby]

Seeing Ven play like this is so satisfying, especially since he’s my favorite Keyblade wielder

[@darkassasin111]

YEEEEE BOI This game deserved a proper combat overhaul. BBS blew my little mind as a kid. KH on the PSP? But, adult me has higher standards, and base BBS feels either unfair if you're weak compared to the enemies, or boring if you're too strong/spam overpowered commands. This is definitely going on the to-play list.

[@ThatOneLegendEmerald]

if only this mod worked on steam

[@keneor4468]

Now try to mod days into a fun experience lmao (just add decent hitstun on a bunch of boss encounters and that would already be way better)

[@blackliquidsorrow8249]

Would also help if enemies didn't have stupidly high HP

[@JI0MB]

@@blackliquidsorrow8249 Just slap a 2x damage multiplier on the player and there you go lmao

[@SaltedMallows]

Wow nice smooth combo launcher 3:08

[@MiDuWay]

I haven't played BBS in several years, but as a genuine lover of its combat, this mod looks like how I remember the game feeling.

[@rosiemymelody]

mod just turns bbs into recoded (the better command style game)

[@mr.e2643]

Just how powerful is xehanort? he nearly oneshot lingering will

[@K82849]

It’s insane these options weren’t even remotely considered by devs years ago.

[@embrcelica]

Would this mod be good for a first playthrough? I feel like I should probably play it vanilla first but this does look pretty fun.

[@starmangalaxy2001]

Absolutely. I dropped the game partway through my first playthrough with aqua. But with the mod I happily played through all 3 stories and also the final and secret episodes.

[@tigerfestivals5137]

If you want to experience what BBS actually is, no. If you want to have more fun with it then yes. It's not a bad game without this mod, but it has a lot of flaws that start to become more obvious the further into the game you get.

[@PajamCam]

8:05 The Freeze Raid to point blank Mega Flare is insane lmao

[@rustycookiepekka6875]

One thing that disturbs me was the beginning where you got hurt even though you were blocking in the proper direction...

[@hypernovagamingstation]

I actually like BSS and it's combat and even I can agree that this is superior in every way.

[@kaarpiv375]

God, these playthroughs actually made me wanna pick BBS back up. I oughta start tryna run KH mods, I tried to do Critical Mix a while back, but the installer won't work with roms, so I'll hafta buy the KH bundles at some point.

[@KieranHarris44]

I'd like to make a game inspired by BBS' battle system and this certainly gives me lots of ideas, nice! Though being a one-man team it'd probably have to be 2D like GBA Chain of Memories but still, I'd love to try that someday!

[@Xendra]

ive always thought that a game with BBS style commands and melding would be great if you could slot the commands into your regular combos like in God Hand

[@SaltedMallows]

Hell Yeah time for Terra to get his Fhukin revenge on Mysterious bro

[@gbawesome1464]

10:18 *whiffs the opening move* *gets hit once* "fuck my perfect" *rewinds the hit and immediately gets stuffed again*

[@lowhp_comic]

Vanitas failing to maintain being an edgelord calling you names as you are kerbstomping every single counter he throws

[@pujabhardwaj8568]

Why do you not recommend to combine the birth by sleep ultimate mix mod and birth by sleep better battle system mod?

[@themaraca778]

This combat system looks fire, and what BBS's combat system could have been if it was just way more polished, and I love seeing that. Moves could have invulnerability, cancellability into actually combos, the counter actually starting combos, garbage commands being able to be used within combos. It looks insane

[@TheChosenKey]

Indeed why didn't they make the battel system like this. Those cancels are nasty.

[@Carnyzzle]

the mod that makes you FEEL like you're lingering will

[@oni-linkle4880]

This mod has everyone coming to grips with how bullshit the enemies in bbs are

[@yuribaka4809]

WARNING: the mod is curently defunct because of the egs and steam update. You can request un update to the creator of the mod.

[@CoBud91]

Holy fuck that Tnort fight. I'm at Tnort on my own playthrough with this mod and had no fucking clue just how swift you can be with it, I'm so used to playing it since launch lmfao

[@swaggin1716]

KZbin just randomly set my shit to 2x speed without me knowing, so I just watched this sped up for like 30 seconds thinking that was the mod.

[@dongodongo12]

Oh i thought this was a video essay talking baout bbs' combat system and its faults and how the mod fixes it and such, but no

[@tryhardnobouken465]

First time i see a none cheesed Tera Mysterious Figure Fight. This Mod looks extremly interessting, meight actually makes me replay the game again.

[@Faceless_time_traveler]

I actually can't believe what I'm seeing.... Why couldn't this be in the original game, this is fantastic

[@jexusdomel5194]

Only by seeing your thumbnail that i understood better battle system is suposed to have the same initials as birth by sleep

[@kyrusdarkblade]

Looking at the notes for the Better Battle System mod... Holy shit there's so much wrong with BBS on a fundamental level

[@aenslandgaymer9926]

Bayonetta players know how to use dodge offset, this should be fun~

[@KaimArgonarEyyyy]

MF gotta be the boss you've fought the most in the KH franchise

[@duckeggcarbonara]

The people are waking up... They're realizing Re:Coded was right along.

[@Nevict]

There should be a skill called "form disable" that prevents you from triggering form changes.

[@tigerfestivals5137]

Didn't think id be considering playing this game again any time soon

[@domoru5264]

10:59 he rewinded time and STILL got hit after the fact? wow

[@uberfreak2]

Anyone working on a mod that summons your armor along with your keyblade?

[@winterflan]

I never thought anybody would be able to make MF actually look *fun* to fight. I gotta try this mod, I can't stand BBS's gameplay normally.

[@somnus9976]

Faith and salvation are so cool with wingblade , ventus should’ve stayed like this

[@theindigothunder3921]

Oh my God the boss battles look actually mostly playable now

[@yungmuney5903]

11:53 lmao that entire sequence was pure unga bunga

[@Erick.Salvador]

at this point I`m just waiting for some crazy bastard to port the entire story and content of BBS to KH2`s engine

[@GamerGeek527]

0:57 Lingering Will meets invisible explosion

[@kyl0ooart]

23:19 how did you do that wtf?

[@StickmanSham]

...oops lmao, accidentally rendered the entire timeline instead of only the actual video

[@leonidaswild1]

2:11 when Terranort helps you charge

[@Dualblades47]

Looks awesome, thanks for alerting me to the existence of this.

[@zadavit]

I'm so sad that it doesn't work for Steam version D: hopefully the author works on an update soon

[@flarigrar7114]

I need the mod where BBS doesn't crash every two seconds