Sticky shutter in Hasselblad Planar 1:2.8 f=80mm

This old Hasselblad Planar 1:2.8 f=80mm had a very sticky shutter, so if set on 1 sec. it would take way too long before the shutter clicks.
It's not that hard to open the lens, I use a rubber tool..., actually it's a rubber plumbing fitting and the diameter is ~54mm it's very sticky so it's easy to unscrew the front lens. You can buy those fitting in many hardware stores, just like "Bauhause".
Some brand's are: "Marley" and "Vawin" rubber plumbing fitting.
I clean the slow gear in Isopropylalcohol 99%, and lube ONLY the axle ends with very thin sewing machine oil.

[@Hiksan5]

And an beautiful old, but almost unused 80mm lens got a 2nd life thanks to your video. Much appreciated!

[@marinazoister1123]

Super video! It is perfectly workimg for a Sonnar 150mm as well! So nice way of explaining !!!!!!!

[@eustacequinlank7418]

Now I know with a sort of confidence that this is the problem my Planar has. Anything below 1/30th it sticks. I can set it to Bulb and time 1/2 and a 1/4 with some films with good results in the meantime. It's reassuring to know that it's probably repairable and just to see what the culprit is. You're invaluable, there will be a time when there is a dearth of technicians who can repair these lenses, but I see now why they charge so much. I'm working my way through an inexpensive M42 Zeiss Jenna 50mm of which I have two, I go one stage further each time, then put it back together and memorize the procedure, The Planar will be something that I may tackle in a few years, way too advanced for me currently. Thank you, your videos are priceless and very educational

[@mikeno62]

Man Beadle Thank's, yes it looks like your lens has the same problem with the slow gear and the longer exposure time, just like many of those old lenses with a build in shutter, they will over time get stuck and then need some care, by disassemble the lens and clean the slow gear, or other part's. But it will also be a problem to get spare parts for this old equipment. And you are on the right track of try to learning how to work with lenses, and it's actually great fun to get a nice old lens or camera back to life. I think too you are right about the repair men and women, when they pass away they take all there knowledge with them, and then there is a problem to get many of the older camera's and lenses repaired. It's why I try to share my knowledge in my film's. Good luck with your photo repair. Cheers Kenneth

[@hansamodell6430]

What a fantastic Video. I fixes my 80 mm by myself, I am so proud of it. Was really fun to do it. Very good explained, quit an even slow enough. Unbelievable, thanks so much! I bought the „Tool“ at Bauhaus, it‘s from Marley, HT DN 50 1 1/4“. Cost 1,60 or 1,90 Euro and works real fine. Just developed my Ilford-Film. The exposure fits. It‘s still nearly unbelievable for me, I fixed a Hasselblad. Wonderful!

[@mikeno62]

That's really great news, it was good you could repair your own Hasselblad lens :-)

[@jimkilroy2549]

Awesome! Watched this a couple times and just tore down a 40mm Distagon with a sticky shutter. It now works great! Thanks so much for this. I had been scared to do it although I have CLA'd shutters on Rolleis before. It wasn't scary at all. Thanks again!

[@mikeno62]

WOW that's great Jim, I'm happy to know that.

[@michaelm5704]

Awesome video. I fixed the shutter on my 80mm. I did have a head scratching moment come up. The spring for the swinging arm of the slow speed motor came out of the groove. I was searching for interference thinking something might ha moved out of position. Sleeping on it and thinking about the problem with what was actually going on allowed me to find the spring out of position. I got it back together with little trouble. But now a new problem has come up. The shutter is not always firing with the flaps open. I am suspicious that the problem lies in the body. I have a 1964 500C. It hasn't been in use since the early 80's. I hope I am right. But great video. Thank you so much for taking the time to make these.

[@mxfotoviajerogmail2934]

Thank you, Thank you, thank you!!!. A same Planar lens, rescue from a 25 year old room, got a New life... 👍

[@user-ss6zt2mo1l]

I put my slow speed timing gears in Naptha in my Ultrasonic cleaner. Works Great. I have not blown up yet. :) Definitely do not use Naptha on Painted parts, like ring bezels because it will remove paint quite nicely. Nice video.

[@LB-oj1kr]

Thank you! You're amazing.

[@adammaraschky3845]

These videos are so useful! I hope to learn more from you. I have a Distagon 50 mm that has the same slow gear issue.

[@heritageimaging7768]

80mm compeer shutters and the A12 light traps were the worst aspected of the 500C. I spent a lot of money fixing those two problems.

[@northstar1950]

Quite brilliant, I wish I had your talent.

[@rafaelfrontadogomez2745]

Very useful this video. It has helped me identify the same problem with my lens, although my shutter's lens is not that much slow than the one of this video. But I think I will keep watching it until I feel enough confidence to work on mine. Now, I have an observation. I got the impression if that lens had any problem with the aperture. At the end of this video, when Mr. Mike is testing the lens, it is setting it to 1 second and f2.8 aperture, but when he releases the shutter, it can be seen that the aperture goes to very close, kind of f16 or f22. So, I am wondering if this is a problem as a result of the service or if mounting back the lens something got missing that should had been done during the service.

[@geofunvideos]

Excellent. Thanks!

[@kenklontz1945]

Just want to say thanks

[@inter-linked]

Very helpful, thank you.

[@tonytfuntek3262]

I would have had so many parts leftover !!!

[@photosbyjosef]

Your work is excellent. I'm a little afraid to do this as my right arm is numb after I chiropractor broke my neck and I've had 3 surgeries. Anyway I could send you my lens for repair I'll be happy to pay

[@mikeno62]

Sorry, but I do not have a repair service.

[@BboyGraphicx]

Thank you for making this

[@theoldfilmbloke]

You seem very good at Hasselblad repairs -- can you advise ME please ? I as given a 1978 500C/M by a Fellow 90 year old Camera Club member where all the Mirror Bumper FOAM strip is ROTTEN and bits keep falling onto mirror. I HAVE replaced foam seals in my 35mm and C220 cameras but on the 500C/M the foam is behind a black metal 'flap' at top of camera body and I cannot access it. Also do you ever Lubricate gently the film winder gears?

[@blobbenfinns]

Good video! But did you ever get the 1sec timing right at a second attempt?

[@Yoniweb]

It does look like the aperture isn't correct at the end of the video. Any thoughts why this is Kenneth?

[@juanebasurto2777]

I love you men, I love you!!!!

[@juanebasurto2777]

I have a new 80 2.8!!

[@hungboss2003]

Dear Sir, could you guide how to replace the shutter leaf? I have the same lens with broken shutter leaf :(. thank you so much

[@rahandulcaspatal5276]

Hi Mikeno, well i have see the video Hello Mikeno, good morning I've seen the video a few times, and I paid attention to all the details, because my lens has the blades of the opening slow (not the shutter but the iris) I do not know if it is possible to open it from behind access to that mechanism and how to do it and what precaution I should have, please can you help me (I'm not clumsy with the tools, and I feel empowered however I'm missing information, thanks quisiera decir que es una gran ayuda ver tus tutoriales es un trabajo excelente

[@mikeno62]

I'm planing a video about the full disassemble of the shutter and the shutter blade / aperture blades assembly sooner.

[@rahandulcaspatal5276]

@@mikeno62 ok Mike i have fix the aperture system and another parts of the shutter in this moment all right with the great help of a friend of mine , but if you load amy video of that matter its so good for all us ,

[@plnsol]

Hi Mikeno, great how to. I unmounted and cleaned the timer, it works fine now. However, I also cleaned the slow gear (tough it was not necessary) and it doesn't work properly for longer shutter speeds after the cleaning. Looks like everything is moving smoothly but too quickly, there is absolutely no delay and no clicking sound. Maybe there was some part movement during cleaning, because bottom and top plate of the slow gear mechanism is not completely fixed. Do you have any idea, what could be the issue? I am afraid of disassembling it, because of many tiny parts. Thanks

[@plnsol]

Partially fixed. A hair return spring slipped from the swivel fin. 1s, 1/2 and 1/4s are working fine now, however 1/8 and 1/15 are not - it is really fast like 1/250. I found some found some service manual for 80mm Hasselblad lenses, but unfortunately the retard gear train is bit different. Got stuck. :(

[@ontyposrl]

Hi, nice and useful video. I have the same problem with the 1971 sonnar compur f 150 1:4. The front lens is fixed in a different way and I'm afraid to blindly put my hands on it. May be you had the chance to open one of them. Do yu have some advice?

[@demarc0313]

hi, i watched your video and fixed the slow shutter problem. but there is another new problem: the aperture didn't work. maybe something wrong when i dissemble the lens. how can i do next? do you have any guide to disassemble the aperture parts? thank you.

[@schmuak]

You may want to give purus a wash first?

[@christophschwarzherz5909]

Hi this is a great video. Are you sure you're not a Hasselblad factory tech? You sound like you have a Swedish accent. :) it could be Danish, though.

[@mikeno62]

Thank's Charles, but I'm not a Hasselblad factory tech, and I'm from Denmark, but I have spent many many years to learn myself how to repair camera's and lenses, and most of the time without any repair manual, NO camera tech have told me how to do so and so, even if I ask them. And that's why I started this repair channel on KZbin, simply because I would like to share my experience in how to repaire different photo equipment, Later on I have found some repair manual's and in that way make better and more detailed video's. Cheers Kenneth

[@rahandulcaspatal5276]

Hi Mike , well i would ask you some thin about black planar T shynchro compur fr hasselblad its similar that this model ,, but my lens is really hard to focus , i feel the ring its not soft to turn, i have diasselbly , and clean all the helicoidals from the back lens side re-grease and its practical the same problem , i can say that when the shutter its cooked its more dificout t move the focus ans when the len its shuttered , i observe there is a cylinder , that go inner on a long piece to cook the shutter i hace clean and re-grease buy the problem not go , i as if this piece must be firm static or with a some moviment, , i as too for a plastics red parts os the sides of the shutter , , could b ethe problem , resume i have serios dificoult to diagnostig the problem , could you help me please ?

[@owenedelsten1890]

Hi Rahundal, the focus part my lens came off due to loose screws. The helicoids have separated, and I don't know how to position them properly to reassemble. Did you find information for this somewhere? I can rejoin the two parts, but the focus is all wrong. Thanks.

[@davidcrespo7867]

Would you look at my 80 mm lens, it's broken and needs repair. Thank you David

[@tompaste387]

That lens was built in 1958.

[@DennisDA]

Way too slow. I kept shouting, "Get on with it".