Stiga Cybershape Carbon - Honest review (Part 2)

[@eduardlaurentiubaltatu4192]

Cybershape is inner carbon type blade (like Harimoto alc) so it has bigger dwell time and less speed compared to Viscaria.

[@Savage4800]

а почему же тогда вращение слабое ?

[@canicetang8837]

There was a video by someone who had purchased the penholder version of the Stiga Cybershape. I fully understand your excellent analysis and they are mostly accurate. However, with the Penhold version only 79 grams versus the slightly heavier Shakehand version. Also given that the larger head sweet spot is only 9% instead of 11% compared to the regular shaped paddle, would the negative aspects of short serve receives, touch shots, short plays plus flips be a bit less than the Shakehand? Anyhow, most of the sales of the Cybershape are mostly shakehand. With Truls Moregard's unique playing style, the Cybershape definitely suited him well. This is why with the expensive 210 Euro price for the blade and 100 Euro more for the recommended Stiga DNA Dragon Rubbers and the special Stiga glue. That would be quite an investment to attempt getting even better at the game. Precisely, I would like to see the reactions of other coaches and players before I would consider to make such a purchase in the future. If you can get some ideas from penhold players who purchased this blade, I would love to hear their honest feedbacks, thank you.

[@Justmakesomenoiz]

Were did u read that the recommended rubbed is dna dragon. That's a super hard rubber and I've seen reviews with way less hardness and it has performed perfect.

[@FirstLast-jp6he]

I have been using the Cybershape for a month now and my advise is to go for the CWT version so that you can adjust the centre of gravity to suit your style.

[@SPOOKYASIAN]

Is this a good blade to buy if you are a blocker and play far from the table

[@vanthitran2800]

Hi , do you know witch one is faster between cybershape wood or cybershape clipper ?

[@sbconstruction1592]

I didn't understand why can't create more spin by cybershape ?

[@azuanazzeham8361]

It is suitable for backhand side short pimple?

[@rayray2283]

And when we will have CYBERCHOP 🏓 (a defensive one) ?

[@chrisayling2991]

Great content on the table tennis match and the different Table tennis Pats.

[@francescopassa1876]

Greetings dear Master! What is the best rubber composition for this racket? Soft, medium hard or hard (50 degrees)? Best wishes and thank you very much. Francesco from Assis, SP. Brasil.

[@nerfi4106]

Cybershape or Harimoto Alc?

[@carlosrvillegaschazaro1092]

What says ITTF official rules about the dimensions of a TT racket? How big can it be ? Is a patented shape permitted ?

[@Bdblssq]

is this cybershape suitable for penhold grip?

[@arnehammarlind4420]

@@Bdblssq look att after 3.00 in the video what he say, ""Yes" but different weight.

[@Ny11-s3d]

1 i love your contact you should teach in school.... What would happen if id take my blade butterfly ALC and make the size is it ittf approved?

[@johnw9173]

I have the penhold version of Stiga Cybershape. I have to admit it feels weird to play and especially to serve with. However I win more games against my regular opponents with Cybershape compared to when I play with my conventional blades (Stiga Dynasty Carbon, Ma Lin Soft Carbon, Ma Lin Hard Carbon). Cybershape sweetspot gives me more confidence. Backhand flick with Cybershape is not a problem if one has the strength, it just requires some adjustment. Now I tend to overflick it with conventional blades. Cybershape is really nice for flat hits/slap shots. I play with Hurricane 8 on forehand and Hurricane 8-80 on backhand.

[@niceiceman]

thank you for your honest review! what do u think if i put short pip rubber, such as moristo SP AX on this blade?

[@882828jc]

Don.t make any different.Short pip not that sensitive to spin.Also you had no quality of spin either.Just wasting money on this ugly paddle. They are playing game on your mind.Nothing will be change,not till you can have a hand tranplant with Ma Long..You can,t be a great chef even you had the best sets of expensive cookware ,my friend.

[@bigdrew57]

As a short pip player it depends how good the sweet spot is. Seeing as its smaller than most oversized blades I’m not sure how big that sweet spot will be. But if you flat smash sounds like you’ll enjoy it. But over 200 dollars is just plain stupid

[@markusmaier2325]

Short pips depend on the stiffness and the dwell time of the blade. Not about the shape. Also short pips are very sensitive on the structure of the layers together.

[@feideepking]

@@bigdrew57Cyber toy

[@kens9234]

Moregard was just lucky he did not encounter any japanese or chinese player during the eliminations. FZD has battled all the way up and eliminated all the tough opponents in his group. Moregard had an easy way up.

[@kennethselin1398]

If you wrote just "any Chinese player", I could somewhat agree with you.

[@ariqasadam199]

@@kennethselin1398 japanese actually made it into final alot

[@kennethselin1398]

@@ariqasadam199 yes. But the poster indicates that Moregard had slim chance if he were to face a Japanese. Which I don't agree with, seeing how they performed. The Chinese however, that's a different story.

[@ariqasadam199]

@@kennethselin1398 japan is top 5 in the world

[@kennethselin1398]

@@ariqasadam199 As I understand you, you agree with me.

[@Justmakesomenoiz]

Well can't really say u did an honest review of this blade. U didn't really try it besides bouncing a ball on it to hear the pitch sound. Hard to give an honest review just based on that.

[@Ahma000]

What equipment do you use normally?

[@artaz899]

Nice! Thanks for Reviewing !

[@yiftachunna9331]

Great video coach😁

[@Felix-zf4co]

Very interesting review! Could you make another review playing against somebody with this blade. I wonder, if you feel the increased hitting area in a real game.

[@aloroki3350]

Hi can anyone tell me is this good setup for beginners: yasaka sweden blade, mark v rubber for backhand and dhs hurricane 3 neo for forehand

[@ttjesus4959]

Buy a regular H3 provincial blue sponge version in 39 degrees for your FH. And get the commercial H3 neo soft (37 degrees) for your BH. Work on your spin, placement, and anticipation via setting your opponent up in 1-2 moves. Swing full. Do not be tentative EVER. However, do not try to go for speed. Focus on the brush and spinning of the ball. And the first thing you MUST learn, understand, and master is your FOOTWORK. It doesn't matter how great your technique is, if you're never in the right position. You'll always be swinging awkwardly until you learn proper positioning and footwork. Other than that, focus on serving and receiving, as it is about 80% of the game. The one who attacks first usually wins the point, meaning that if you serve well, your opponent cannot attack and they should give you a ball you can attack. And if you receive well, you'll prevent your opponent from being able to attack well, and you'll even force them to give you the first attack instead when you receive very well. Hope this little briefing helps

[@aloroki3350]

@@ttjesus4959 Thank you very much for your advice i appreciate it .

[@andyzhou1668]

nonono when u are beginner use $40 paddle and when u turn pro then use your equipment.

[@aloroki3350]

@@andyzhou1668 im not completely beginner ( but i dont think im good player) i already know how to smash with forehand and backhand but not so consistently i had played with cheap paddle i cant get much spin from it it barely launches ball back to net when i backspin serve but thanks for advice

[@zaaba22]

is this blade suitable for long pimple rubber?🙂

[@darrylkassle361]

Expect nothing but an honest review!!! I wonder what a physicist says about it in terms of air resistance and other pertinent factors??? I am not a scientist but I think Stiga were going for something that they could market as cool. A lot of young people particularly will like the look of it. Mars Trugard is a good rep for it I am sure his being paid to use and promote it. Making the finals will help with that greatly Ps- thanks for wishing everybody a MERRY X-MAS!!!🎄

[@desarguesbaptiste5577]

I am not a physicist by I would tend to think that a shape with more edges is less smooth on its property, like the best places to touch the ball will have a weirder surface. Also I think it acts weirdly on the vibration part I guess

[@naywon6492]

Very true and excellent video. Most stiga blades are heavier than butterfly and also have rough and low quality handles. Btw Sir, can you tell me the adv and weakness of ZJK ZLC and the best playing style for it because I just got it last month and still not used to it.

[@PPKspb]

I disagree. The best handles I've tried in the game are the Stiga blades.

[@naywon6492]

@@PPKspb We are not talking about the feeling but the type of wood used to made handles. It is rough if u look closely.

[@stevenlee9619]

@@PPKspb Agreed. Even the wood grains on most Stiga blades are highly visible. Not too well polished n smooth. Offers greater adhesion for the glued rubber to the face of the blade. From experience, many rubbers peeled off at the edges n eventually come loose from the poor adhesion to the wood. Often had to fine sand papered the wood before glueing. Unless U are using the organic water based glue which is very sticky but prohibitively expensive. Many serious players frequently reglued n boost their rubbers n cost is a crucial consideration.

[@PPKspb]

@@naywon6492 Yes, their handles are very rough, this is done on purpose and it is very convenient when your hands are sweating a lot.

[@blueheart9873]

I can confirm this. I have had a Butterfly blade and I literally broke it because it slipped out of my hands twice, so now I'm back to Stiga. I've also tried a Tibhar blade (Samsonov Pro) but it was way too thick for my smaller than average hands

[@АлексейСкрынник-я5ч]

С короткой ручкой удобно под маленькую ладонь ?

[@antonyang7273]

Thx for ur honest review coach!

[@user-cx1mn3uh1b]

Здравствуйте кубок мира будет в 2021?

[@myself6745]

Didnt know viscaria wood was tacky like the hurricane 3

[@iskandartaib]

I wonder if they'll start offering other blades (Allround Classic, anyone? 😁) in this shape. If it's as much of an improvement as they say it is, surely other types of blade construction would benefit from the same shape. I suspect the rough handle is on purpose. Makes it harder to slip out of your hand.

[@stevenlee9619]

I owned Stigas n love the slightly coarse handles. Improve one's grip n good for sweaty palms. 👌

[@ttjesus4959]

You know they're going to charge some outrageous fee on top of the normal blade price to make other models in this shape. Just waiting for their patent + consumer reviews over a few months or so. So far, it has great publicity as Truls had an outstanding Worlds with it, and everybody is very interested in it. So, you can bet on all the other top models being made into this shape, then sold for like 100 dollars more than normal or something

[@vasyapupupupkin4374]

@@ttjesus4959 just cut it to this shape by yourslef. it's a f.igging piece of wood, with a fine sheet of carbon, manufacturing cost ist like 10 bucks. stiga shamelessly rips off dumb sucker kids :-). get any used blade with the same compo (25-30 bucks max to spend) and saw it; may be it'll be a bit smaller (in surface), but it'll be still fine and perfectly "cybershape"

[@antuan_tt1809]

You should try it in the real life, I mean with attached rubbers.

[@dgordgeepavlukov841]

Whose woods it consist?

[@gr637]

For that price it should be in gold

[@idrivearttabletennis]

Very good review. I'm not a professional but I do try to understand different blade and rubber combinations. In my non-professional opinion, too many people end up with a blade+rubber combination that is too aggressive for their potential level of play (where they really lose too much control). I would love to try a Cybershape blade but it's very expensive so I probably will not get one any time soon. I feel that with premium rubber on it, it would end up being something that took away too much control that I need based on my current level of play. From your review and what others have already said, I believe it would hurt my short game. Not saying I'm right, but I seem to have the best results with a top quality all-wood blade matched with premium rubber sheets (usually I choose 2.1 mm or 'max' rubber or both sides - inverted with high level of mechanical grip).

[@sten2246]

It's all in the mathematical formula that makes this blade unique, nothing to do with the veneers etc. That is why it has a bigger sweet spot.

[@미스틱-p3s]

I am very much looking forward to the Korean release.

[@mengyang1481]

got to change your battery, fire alarm

[@martinjandijkstra3205]

The marketing departement of stiga deserves a price for the name 'cybershape'. I dont understand the patent; you probably could get the same result with a similar rounded shape instead of the hexagonal. Anyway good to see there is research and improvement going on. Good explanation.

[@WerewWolfBel]

U r mistaken: cybershape has >1500 Hz, but Viscaria has

[@username-p1f]

Ive not seen any Chinese national team use cybershape in major competition yet

[@table-tennis-limitless]

Video was opinion of someone who didnt use the blade, not a review. Is someone here that tried cybershape with tenergy 05fx to give opinion? Thanks

[@firdausabizar903]

Very interesting review👍👍👍👍

[@ajoydas-Watch-It]

I left a narmal helpful remark and it got deleted? Well guess what so did the Sub :D. Thx for the review regardless ill be watching more just not leaving comments or likes anymore while staying unsubbed. Well done Son. :D

[@teckhonghong3628]

Cyberspace best for mid distance looper. Calling for Aruna + Hugo + Simon and basically every male European Offensive Players. The blade made by Europeans, in Europe for the Europeans.

[@dominicyeo9717]

If this is truly as what stiga has claimed with this cyber bag boasting a larger sweet spot , then isn’t this an unfair advantage against the conventional round blades ? ITTF should reassess if this blade should even be allowed!

[@niceiceman]

defensive blade are even larger! there are pro and cons with each type of blade, and its size!

[@artaz899]

The patent is the problem not the shape but I don't see it making any difference. I prefer Viscaria's small sweet spot because it makes me remember where to hit and learns me in consistency I hit in bad spot the blade failed the shot I remember I hit in the sweet spot the blade makes a blast I remember , other blades with bigger sweetspot makes me inconsistent , some time I hit further of the best spot and the feeling is the same but the shot is poor and I am confused why it fails is it the rubber is it me is it the weather is it the opponent spin ... Viscaria is great at making you better player by forcing you to be precise and clearly give you the finger when you are wrong.

[@bigdrew57]

My blade is way bigger than this lol. Advantages and disadvantages to both

[@markusmaier2325]

Would be awesome having that blade in normal shape as comparison. The sweet spot of Cybershape is not bigger by its shape! That’s absolutely just about the veneers! The core strength is not bigger than Viscaria because the carbon layer more to the outer part means that the impact of the ball doesn’t penetrate the core that much. So there is more core power at Viscaria!

[@ajoydas-Watch-It]

that would be the legacy carbon same design same woods normal shape wich can be seen on table tennis daily in a review he also visited truls to do a review on the cybershape

[@davidk1879]

Thanks for this share

[@luisfrutos102]

Hola alguna madera de stiga que sea igual pero no con la forma esa fea

[@scottbaker-ScottyB]

ITTA should reverse its ball size AND GO back to 38mm because larger ball causes for physical problems , THAT IS why Stiga invents shape size however this will limit short game placement. Play short and you will destroy Stiga .

[@shreyanchatterjee6902]

When will you reveal your face coach

[@gilekopi7296]

Your review kinda hardcore.. Tq very much... Wow stiga have copyright pattern.. I think if butterfly copy this shape it wil be a good blade

[@arjunkharel427]

I do not like the bouncing sound of stiga cybershape

[@andreika6681]

pfff, ppl played with square bats 40 yrs ago, we'd cut bats into square shape back in 80ies just to make 'em lighter. buy some oversized bat on ali, go to local ikea or any local wood workshop, they will make you your personal "cybershape" for 2 bucks :P

[@ministryofvoiddeckttsgp]

u are making about vivo on stiga but u brag about hurricane rubber... do u have a proper video...

[@eyemallears2647]

Joyeuses fêtes!!!!! Allez les bleus!

[@길녘]

저는 스티가를 좋아해서 한국에 들어오면 살까 생각중이에요ㅋㅋ

[@Golden-Boy-]

my defence blade is biger then the cybershape blade so that blade is not fore me ;)

[@최현일-h8g]

이 라켓 가격이 궁금하네요?

[@chan6565]

215 euros if i am not mistaken

[@michaelfarmhand]

I think in TT we should stick to standard shapes - otherwise we would soon be having square bats and rectangular bats. In any case if Stiga insists on copyrighting the shape the ITTF should never accept it for its competitions

[@DoggyP00]

what the fuck...

[@Fontsman]

Square shakehand bats are nothing new, such as the Chester Barnes signature bats in the 1960s.

[@user-cx1mn3uh1b]

И гранд финал 2

[@Radix-gp4uo]

hola

[@gr637]

Just another nerdy gimmick. If you want to become better players, you should just work your butt off and practice more.

[@madpiggy888]

That's why TT is such a pathetic sport. So many blade type, now shape also change. Rubbers also diff. This is a equipment sport. Sad case.

[@Fontsman]

In tennis it is just as varied. Hundreds of different frames and string choices. Technology is always at the fore.

[@meh6513]

Watch pros play with sandpaper rackets versus advanced players with normal racket pros still win

[@madpiggy888]

@@Fontsman WRONG. All Tennis frame is still oval shape, do u have 6 sided shape, NO. String is still string, but rubber u have diff TYPE inverted, lp, sp, anti all these rubbish.

[@Fontsman]

@@madpiggy888 You obviously know nothing about tennis racquets. They are any number of different shapes. Just take a look at Wawrinka's racquet. They also use multiple laminate materials with the frame. Even strings are multiple blends of gut and synthetic. Nadal's Babolat strings even have a hexagonal cross section.

[@madpiggy888]

@@Fontsman give me a break bro...