STIGA Cybershape Blade Review | With Truls Moregard

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@TableTennisDaily
@TableTennisDaily 3 жыл бұрын
The Cybershape Blade review is here! What do you think of this new shape? Have you tried it yet? Massive shout out to Truls for his time, what a guy! Be sure to LIKE and SUBSCRIBE for more 🔥
@elias3026
@elias3026 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's a good marketing idea to keep saying 'it's not that different from a normal blade'... Well, if it's not all that different, why bother ordering it or why spend so much money on it?:)) Being and feeling different is are negative attributes. The idea behind it was to feel somewhat different, to get a fresh feeling. It kinda takes the wind out of the sails.
@ryangoodier267
@ryangoodier267 3 жыл бұрын
Hey dan it's me Ryan,how r u oh can I maybe get ur number I'm only getting to become a bigger fan more and more I watched u and great play 😄 Keep on pongin.
@-danR
@-danR 3 жыл бұрын
It's only a straight-edged version of an egg-profile shape Dunlop marketed ~ fifty years ago. A bit of flare at the sweet-spot distance. If there were an advantage to the actual straight-edge configuration, you'd have seen it ubiquitously in tennis and badminton racquets long ago.
@elias3026
@elias3026 3 жыл бұрын
@@-danR well yes and no. You can make an argument that the straight edge gives you a a slight edge over the table (pun intended), an area inexistent in tennis or badminton.
@dfrees42
@dfrees42 3 жыл бұрын
Great review guys!🏆 I think the only drawback to this blade becoming popular with top players is the lack of dwell time. Otherwise I think this blade could help the other 99% of players in the world 😁
@teguhh14
@teguhh14 3 жыл бұрын
I love how Dan mentioned that the reason for Truls reaching the WC final is the training with him :)
@TableTennisDaily
@TableTennisDaily 3 жыл бұрын
Muhaha I gave him that extra 0.00001% 🤣🤣🤣
@gab5012
@gab5012 3 жыл бұрын
@@TableTennisDaily You where the main reason he beat timo😯
@hangemhigh7069
@hangemhigh7069 Жыл бұрын
Truls must have three different serves! All the world know his one!
@matthewfowkes9428
@matthewfowkes9428 3 жыл бұрын
Good to see a different blade instead of all the “new” blades which are viscaria with a different handle
@leostamp9190
@leostamp9190 3 жыл бұрын
Couldnt agree more👍
@martinzhang5533
@martinzhang5533 3 жыл бұрын
I'm waiting to buy a viscaria with the cybershape🤣
@hillsideonly
@hillsideonly 3 жыл бұрын
@@martinzhang5533 lol
@theartist7169
@theartist7169 3 жыл бұрын
Word!
@davidandersson4579
@davidandersson4579 3 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY! Love this! Such a unique take on TT. This is how you reinvent Table Tennis. Thank you STIGA. no one has done more than you!
@edward5944
@edward5944 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations to Truls Morgard on winning silver medal at the world championship. I would rather give more credits to his creative, authentic , unique playing style for his victories. In nutshell, he has superior FH shots, outstanding short ball control, hurricane BH shots and so dare to fight spirits. Dan, this video made my Friday night very delightful. Thumbs up from USA.
@TableTennisDaily
@TableTennisDaily 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Edward glad you enjoyed it 👊🔥 I honestly couldn't agree more the way he plays is incredible, so fun to watch as you don't know what you're going to get aha. Have a good weekend 🏓
@ravanpee1325
@ravanpee1325 3 жыл бұрын
He was in the far easier bracket in the tournament whereas FZD had to play against all the other chinese top players..also Boll was injured
@gamawijaya739
@gamawijaya739 3 жыл бұрын
you are incredible.. i suggest you to see one of my favorite match kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZoOTiZxnhbuqadk
@KalleKalas-r1v
@KalleKalas-r1v Ай бұрын
@@ravanpee1325 Bla bla bla. He's now an Olympic silver medalist
@quebecer4605
@quebecer4605 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video! I just started using the Cybershape blade with Stiga Dragon Grip. AMAZING!!! I feel that even lower level players can use this blade with good control.
@bakervinci163
@bakervinci163 3 жыл бұрын
Good interview with Trols. Seems like a solid kid. Way more humble than I expected.
@chrisbrodroy1183
@chrisbrodroy1183 2 жыл бұрын
I play the cybershape at my lower amateur league level basically for one reason only: It gets me in the head of my opponent even before i played the first ball. They are all so curious and think more about thr blade than their own game. But beside the unusual shape, it is a good blade
@pruthveshmandle4978
@pruthveshmandle4978 Ай бұрын
The way Truls has single handedly managed to change the way of playing "classic TT" with his unorthodox style must deserve an outstanding praise.
@jdawglmao
@jdawglmao 3 жыл бұрын
Tl;dr: "This blade is so amazing, huge, wow, next generation! Look, we also have a professional player here. Sponsered by Stiga you say? Nah, that's just coincidence. He's going to give an honest review, lol. Next time, we have Timo Boll in the show talking about Butterfly products."
@hondamx96
@hondamx96 Жыл бұрын
Incredibly satisfying hit from Truls. The only forward pushing backhand.
@danegraham8506
@danegraham8506 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Dan. Would like to see a Stiga DNA DragonGrip review. Keep up the good work.
@GhanaTableTennis
@GhanaTableTennis 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks to Moregard for helping prove the concept.
@leostamp9190
@leostamp9190 3 жыл бұрын
How much Dan? Your game is at another level now!!! Wow. Gave Truls a good run for his money! Fair play to you!! Still here. Leo 🏓😂
@leafsmithleafsmith691
@leafsmithleafsmith691 3 жыл бұрын
6.15 to 6.54. This is the big marketing opportunity for STIGA.As Dan says very interesting at the end. Truls says he is using the defined heptagonal corners of the blade as a guide to get the right angle on backhand shots and make adjustment. With a. Standard round curve blade you do not have such an obvious physically visible reference.[unless you make some mark on the bat].I would not be surprised if STIGA marketed a slower blade CYBERSHAPE in the future. Originally the word Cyber from Cybernetics, meant Steersman, so this control feature is quite apt.
@maracuder
@maracuder 3 жыл бұрын
You can just saw off a bit of a regular blade. Modifying a blade was always allowed. Where's the problem? Why did nobody do this so far, if this is needed so bad?
@wqtermelon
@wqtermelon 3 жыл бұрын
Always a good day when they upload 🙃
@TableTennisDaily
@TableTennisDaily 3 жыл бұрын
🙌🙌🙌
@stevemerkle9663
@stevemerkle9663 2 жыл бұрын
💯
@asiansensation6864
@asiansensation6864 3 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for this for so long
@WillyVLD
@WillyVLD 3 жыл бұрын
Nice review by the sound of it, it's like an innerforce with an larger sweetspot.
@lgeiger
@lgeiger 3 жыл бұрын
It has been done with tennis rackets as well. Radek Stepanek and Ivan Lendl used to play with 10-sided Bosworth rackets. I don't think we will see a lot of people playing with these in the future. Combined with a different colored rubber this will definitely be an eyecatcher and throw off many opponents.
@davidandersson4579
@davidandersson4579 3 жыл бұрын
Well. Let me put it like this - Truls, ranked 77 in the world, basically a "nobody" changed to STIGA Cybershape and reached the final of the World Championships with it. I think its safe to say that this blade increase your performance by a mile! SO excited for this and will order it as soon as it's available in my country.
@henkdetank7306
@henkdetank7306 2 жыл бұрын
I played a lefty with this blade and a green rubber. I didn't notice any distraction
@Wally-H
@Wally-H 3 жыл бұрын
Nice review, well done Dan. You're looking sharp around the table as well - good to see. Pushing for selection in your next TTD match I'd say!
@TableTennisDaily
@TableTennisDaily 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks aha! Been working hard, just need the Gaffer to select me now 😁
@roshanjacob871
@roshanjacob871 3 жыл бұрын
Would like for you guys to review the Ovtcharov Innerforce ALC blade
@royalcubing6022
@royalcubing6022 3 жыл бұрын
I waited for this video since the release of this blade!
@zackp9743
@zackp9743 2 жыл бұрын
Just bought my cybershape with 2 sides of T05, I will have unstoppable speed
@ym2912-er5
@ym2912-er5 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for yet another great review which persuaded me to buy the blade. Unique feeling. I knew it was going to be good for me before I even tried it, because of the shape. It really helps to get a more accurate feeling of angles and position of the blade vs the ball at contact time. If you are like me you will like it. Well done Stiga for the innovation.
@richarddrozd7585
@richarddrozd7585 Жыл бұрын
How are you getting on with it?
@GafTTD
@GafTTD 3 жыл бұрын
That backspin punch reminds me of the chairman 🤣🤣 he might like this blade 🔥
@quebecer4605
@quebecer4605 2 жыл бұрын
Can you review the Cybershape Wood 5-ply blade? And compare it to the Cybershape blade?
@johnlowe3050
@johnlowe3050 2 жыл бұрын
A guy at our club bought one and is playing well with it....better than before.
@animishshendye
@animishshendye 3 жыл бұрын
How is the handling while playing banana flicks? Since the blade is not rounded, does the edge come in contact with table?
@ELECTRICSCARS
@ELECTRICSCARS 3 жыл бұрын
Next: Square Balls and round Tables
@likecaboom700
@likecaboom700 Жыл бұрын
Ha😂
@spijadi
@spijadi 2 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, could you do a video advising people how to choose the right type of rubber for playstyle?
@danimitsahne5532
@danimitsahne5532 3 жыл бұрын
Great Video 👍 I have the Cybershape alread at home. Think it‘s a really good blade. Quality and sound of the blade is very nice. I like it.
@piddlingpick5964
@piddlingpick5964 3 жыл бұрын
Man I’m seeing everyone with this new octagon
@technoxtreme178
@technoxtreme178 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone that can afford 200+ Euros.
@alimpurnomosidi3261
@alimpurnomosidi3261 3 жыл бұрын
The bigggest questions for the table tennis players around the world now are not about developing high tech blade. But how They are able to beat CNT players.
@z0uLess
@z0uLess 3 жыл бұрын
I am wondering how it would be like to play with a more flexible blade and harder rubber that is more consistent than the soft rubbers that certainly must wear out quickly.
@MasteringHow-To
@MasteringHow-To 3 жыл бұрын
Dude he’s switching hands while playing. That’s insane
@rorywalder5075
@rorywalder5075 3 жыл бұрын
After watching some of the TTD rubber reviews, stats wise Tenergy 05 is just better in almost every way to the Stiga DNA Platinum XH - would Tenergy 05 suit this blade then?
@danielcsorba6686
@danielcsorba6686 2 жыл бұрын
Hey! I changed to cybershape half a year ago. First, I put Tenergy 80 on backhand and Dignics 80 to forehand. I loved it; it gave a superb control to the backhand and almost ridiculous catapult to the forehand. With just a bit of movement, my forehand counterspins went like cannonballs. Now, I put up the Dignics 09c to the forehand and kept the Dignics 80 but use it on the backhand. I think this is the real deal. I'm in love. If you are an offensive player, I recommend the Dignics series on this blade. The hardest is to adjust to the service and receive game. Needs a lot of adjustments, particularly in the fine touches. I try to attack more short balls, and I think that's good for my game. For sure, if you change to this blade, you have to be open to changing your game.
@karstenk.6067
@karstenk.6067 Жыл бұрын
I mean it's a very interesting blade. Very good @Stiga!
@Kausan1
@Kausan1 3 жыл бұрын
Finally!! :-) Great stuff
@Charliehuangmagic
@Charliehuangmagic 2 жыл бұрын
have u tried throwing the blade? I heard the blade was quite durable. Truls throws it around during matches all the time and it still holds
@zackp9743
@zackp9743 2 жыл бұрын
Pro players also typically bring several racquets to tournaments, I know Timo Boll actually brings 6.
@zackp9743
@zackp9743 2 жыл бұрын
So I don't think he's too worried about throwing it around, although it is a bit angsty lol
@ww-hi9mq
@ww-hi9mq 3 жыл бұрын
how do you say when compairing this to the dynasty carbon xuxin edition? thanks
@craigboog
@craigboog 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to see you review the new Joola Vyzaryz range thanks
@lawrencemonsieur2627
@lawrencemonsieur2627 2 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, are you planning on reviewing the new Butterfly Viscaria Super ALC?
@prashsk
@prashsk 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review Dan. One definite advantage - would be a lot easier to achieve a clean cut when sticking the rubbers on top of this! Something I struggle with quite a lot. 😅 What rubbers did you use with this by the way?
@OttoKuus
@OttoKuus 3 жыл бұрын
Probably the ones that Truls was using, so Stiga Mantra H on both sides
@TableTennisDaily
@TableTennisDaily 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys. We both used DNA Platinum XH version 💪
@prashsk
@prashsk 3 жыл бұрын
@@TableTennisDaily Thanks TTD!
@APOCLAG
@APOCLAG 3 жыл бұрын
Dan used the DNA Platnium XH rubbers on both sides on the Cybershape
@no_pasaran213
@no_pasaran213 3 жыл бұрын
What next? Quadratish, practish, gutt?
@yousuf_w1
@yousuf_w1 3 жыл бұрын
Please review the donic blue storm z1 turbo
@dominusblandus
@dominusblandus 2 жыл бұрын
you said it is slower than Boll ALC... which isnt difficult for an innerlayer-blade. What blade does it compare too that you played already? Is it more like an Innerforce Layer ALC, an Harimoto ALC or an Ovtcharov No1 Senso or a Freitas? ...or something else in sense of feel in the hand and hold in vs kick out of the racket?
@dawildgoat355
@dawildgoat355 3 жыл бұрын
Im useing the dna platinum rubbers in medium hardness is there and other rubbers the you would recomend in the same price range?
@Zyciegrzegorza
@Zyciegrzegorza Жыл бұрын
Dan, why don't you play in a professional TT Ligue?? You have a level
@fgrideau
@fgrideau 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Dan thanks for the review is Cybershape faster or slower than the Nittaku Acoustic Inner ? I didn’t understand quite well even with slow motion how Truls imparted backspin on his BH smash / counter ? Can you explain ?
@stefanopics4718
@stefanopics4718 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid lads! Where are you based?
@jameshamilton6096
@jameshamilton6096 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the review, many thanks, but what rubbers are you Both using, and did they play any part in the feel of the blade? How do they compare to some of Butterfly's outrageously expensive top blades, and what is the retail price?
@danielyoung7709
@danielyoung7709 Жыл бұрын
You look good playing with this blade. Would you use it in a tournament?
@jerrychangwow
@jerrychangwow 2 жыл бұрын
I am wondering how to choose a great racket to throw my opponent like Truls. I need help and some advises.
@aloneandimmortal
@aloneandimmortal 2 жыл бұрын
This shape of the blade appeared first time in Star Trek Voyager.
@lukaskeysshorts1659
@lukaskeysshorts1659 3 жыл бұрын
Can u pls review the Donic Acuda S1 turbo
@lololo6959
@lololo6959 4 ай бұрын
They didn’t know he was going to be a silver medalist at the olympics😂😂
@Fahrenheit1407
@Fahrenheit1407 3 жыл бұрын
Could you review the Ovtcharov ALC
@knoxshade
@knoxshade 3 жыл бұрын
@tabletennisdaily dan please share what rubbers you guys used Can you do a comparison video for dignics 09c and dragon grip
@hamudiabdo2441
@hamudiabdo2441 3 жыл бұрын
Did you guys stop posting team matches? They were so good!
@TableTennisDaily
@TableTennisDaily 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Hamudi our latest team match is here kzbin.info/www/bejne/nX-ZqYargJeCaLs Ep 4 of TTDSL drops later next week 🔥
@hamudiabdo2441
@hamudiabdo2441 3 жыл бұрын
@@TableTennisDaily Awesome! Thank you!
@carlosceasar6554
@carlosceasar6554 3 жыл бұрын
Hope you can review Tibhar H39 very confusing manufacture data.
@felleix
@felleix 3 жыл бұрын
Nice content!! Where is that front camera at? cant see it :O new sub!
@johnlaw6735
@johnlaw6735 3 жыл бұрын
The scroll saw broke at Stiga but the band saw was still working so here we are :)
@ivangonzalezalcantara2489
@ivangonzalezalcantara2489 3 жыл бұрын
Cual esla diferencia de la paleta aparte de su modelo enque te ayuda y donde se vende en america prinera vez que veo
@ondrejhavazik4124
@ondrejhavazik4124 3 жыл бұрын
What a review Dan! Very gooj job guys;-) I have a question, can you tell me more about punches and active block (or what was that shoot you played 😅), it seems so easy and direct! Especially from Bh. Thanks:)
@TableTennisDaily
@TableTennisDaily 3 жыл бұрын
Haha yeah Truls backhand punch is deadly! We will make a video on this soon:)
@1ln359
@1ln359 3 жыл бұрын
Please review butterfly Dima Interforce and compare to Boll ALC
@marleyhicks3085
@marleyhicks3085 3 жыл бұрын
Hi guys what day will episode 4 drop.
@niceiceman
@niceiceman 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Dan, I have placed an order of the cybershape! I am currently using the Butterfly MJ super ZLC that you have reviewed before. How would you compare these two blades.
@B08AH
@B08AH 2 жыл бұрын
Every bit counts. Better rubber, better blade, better blade shape, better grip, better stance. Unless you're buying stuff because its fancy. I'm gonna buy this fancy blade, yeah
@dudimiftahulhuda6167
@dudimiftahulhuda6167 3 жыл бұрын
I love to play close to the tabble and also chop blok Flick It looks like this blade can be best option Is it?
@stephendemoss8435
@stephendemoss8435 3 жыл бұрын
TTD needs to make a video with pongfinity
@evilcorp
@evilcorp 3 жыл бұрын
I can't believe it. Stiga do not sell to the United Kingdom. Just went to checkout and the UK isn't listed as a country they ship to...
@Gumplayer2
@Gumplayer2 4 ай бұрын
under sanctions?
@travelinfo010
@travelinfo010 2 жыл бұрын
Hi dan, I live in India but there is no option to buy this here, can you help me out in anyway?
@siading7618
@siading7618 2 жыл бұрын
Really keen to see table tennis daily review victas laim pitchford
@josuesolanoredondo4861
@josuesolanoredondo4861 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video Dan, please review Donic True Carbon Original and Inner :)
@manuelali4279
@manuelali4279 3 жыл бұрын
Can you make a review on the new Dima´s Butterfly ALC blade and compare it against Timo´s ALC? Thanks!
@fernandogonzalezgarcia2168
@fernandogonzalezgarcia2168 3 жыл бұрын
Ever since I saw this blade I've been wondering if the ITTF has any sort of policies regarding the shape and size of table tennis raquets. I mean it IS bigger than a regular blade... so, where does the Federation draw the line on what is allowed in competition??
@benfuller8777
@benfuller8777 3 жыл бұрын
Read the ITTF rules and you'll know..
@fernandogonzalez1261
@fernandogonzalez1261 3 жыл бұрын
@@benfuller8777 2.4.1: "The racket may be of any size, shape or weight but the blade shall be flat and rigid". Really? ANY size??
@maracuder
@maracuder 3 жыл бұрын
@@fernandogonzalez1261 You won't win a competition with a 7 cm or 100 cm blade either, so yes, any size is allowed.
@nicholasnovak7106
@nicholasnovak7106 Жыл бұрын
its crazy seeing this cuz i was designing a paddle like this (but not as pronounced) in 2019 but never actually did it.. i got the idea from my favorite tennis racket brand, yonex
@jackgustafsson6513
@jackgustafsson6513 3 жыл бұрын
Can we expect a Dan vs Truls One Set Showdown 2 soon?
@TableTennisDaily
@TableTennisDaily 3 жыл бұрын
Ohh definately on the cards 👀
@tabletennis1686
@tabletennis1686 2 жыл бұрын
is it the first time that Stiga comes out with this shape? thanks
@WeissStudio
@WeissStudio 3 жыл бұрын
nice vid! thx
@seannery7428
@seannery7428 2 жыл бұрын
Can you pls reveiw the stiga hybrid wood nct with a tenergy 19 both side bc this is my dream set up i would like to see it performance before buying it
@table_tennis_fever
@table_tennis_fever 3 жыл бұрын
how will people in america get one? i see that the stiga site only ships to europe
@alexq1250
@alexq1250 3 жыл бұрын
Does anybody know the wood composition of this blade? Looks like koto-ayous-carbon-kiri. Stiga already has the Inspira blade with such composition (btw.Inspira is awesome but not as fast as Cybershape is told to be in this review). Is Cybershape just Inspira with another shape of head?
@S3V3NOW
@S3V3NOW 3 жыл бұрын
When is the next TTDSL Video?
@GafTTD
@GafTTD 3 жыл бұрын
It's coming real soon 👀
@alxpower5391
@alxpower5391 3 жыл бұрын
I put SYSTEM10 to get the disscount and it is not valid that cupon, do you have other one, I'm from Spain.
@yezdicp
@yezdicp 3 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to ask if this blade is available for defensive players or not ? One side carbon and defensive on backhand.
@arthurpanaitescu518
@arthurpanaitescu518 2 жыл бұрын
What would you chose between stiga cybershape and harimoto ZLC ?
@ruimiguelpmane
@ruimiguelpmane 3 жыл бұрын
Good review. What rubers do you have used on the review?
@TableTennisDaily
@TableTennisDaily 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Rui thanks 🙏 We both use DNA Platinum XH on both sides
@ruimiguelpmane
@ruimiguelpmane 3 жыл бұрын
@@TableTennisDaily thanks for your answer Dan.
@賴志偉-d7h
@賴志偉-d7h 2 жыл бұрын
Harrimoto or Truls? So hard to pick one...🤔
@z0uLess
@z0uLess 2 жыл бұрын
Has anyone tried Nittaku Acoustic? Revspin gives it really high scores, but I worry that the grip is too small for me.
@Megaboyd
@Megaboyd 3 жыл бұрын
Bravo Truls!
@4403323
@4403323 Жыл бұрын
The Truls Moregard vs Timo Boll match brought me here. I thought he chopped off the corners of a regular blade to make this odd looking blade.
@berringervids
@berringervids 3 жыл бұрын
Truls only had a couple of months (or only one) to get used to this blade before the world cup too. Is what I heard atleast. Such a hope for the future! Amazing tournament by him! Is it that "easy" to acclimatize to this one? Great content!
@christianstuhrwohldt3179
@christianstuhrwohldt3179 Жыл бұрын
This is supossed to feel heavy? my racket is a bit more than double the weight
@benedictsugiarto251
@benedictsugiarto251 Жыл бұрын
Where can I buy cybershape CWT and can you ship to Indonesia?
@oliverisla8221
@oliverisla8221 3 жыл бұрын
If there is no difference why should I buy a blade with this shape?
@JimmyOlsson
@JimmyOlsson 3 жыл бұрын
Because it looks cool! :)
@darrinkulyk9560
@darrinkulyk9560 3 жыл бұрын
Will be FUN To Try
@alankingchiu
@alankingchiu 3 жыл бұрын
Do they have a pen hold version? I would like to try it if the price is right.
@briantsao558
@briantsao558 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, not sure where I can order it in US?!
@VictorMoraga
@VictorMoraga 3 жыл бұрын
Great review Dan. I 'm playing with it for almost 1 month and I love it. I'm a Penhold Left Handed player, and the control is great. You should check my review too 😉😄🏓. Regards from USA 🇺🇸
@7salads996
@7salads996 3 жыл бұрын
A penholded left hand player with this racket would throw me off so much
@VictorMoraga
@VictorMoraga 3 жыл бұрын
@@7salads996 hahaha 😄. That's a good one. My 1st tournament this weekend with it 🏓😉
@7salads996
@7salads996 3 жыл бұрын
@@VictorMoraga Good luck! I cant imagine how it would to learn penhold haha. Im just 14 trying to become better at my this sport Im almost top 100 boys under 15 in norway so its really fun :)
@VictorMoraga
@VictorMoraga 3 жыл бұрын
@@7salads996 nice, keep working on that. And the results will come 🏓 👌 👊
@dfy
@dfy 3 жыл бұрын
@@VictorMoraga OCTTA - See you there! Haha
@shogrran
@shogrran Жыл бұрын
Everyone saying its weird shape. But doesnt the japanese have a penhold shape thats actually very similar to this shape? Just rounded corners but same general shape
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