STIHL 461 PORTING

[@ironwoodworkman4917]

Good stuff @Tinman It is very cool that you gave @Bayou Country Power Saws a shout-out. He knows his saws. ( I like the history videos he does the most ) See Ya next video Friend. :)

[@tinmanssaws]

Yeah Kensie is one of the best people I've ever known. Just a solid guy 100%

[@jeffreyrubish347]

Been following Kenzie for quite a while. He is very meticulous in his work. Someday I may have him rework my Husqvarna 261 (EPA) with a flat top Meteor to change EPA to XP, lol.

[@petershea3131]

Very cool tinman. I’ve a lot to learn. I fixed up a few climbing saw builds. One was successful and one was not. I’m working on fixing the other with a spare cylinder tho 😊

[@simpleman4224]

Another great video! I always learn something new! Thanks for sharing buddy! Keep em coming!👍👍👍👍🙏🙏🙏🙏🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@justinweaver8787]

Hey simple man hope you doin good.

[@simpleman4224]

Justin Weaver living the dream buddy!

[@justinweaver8787]

Glad to hear it be safe out there.

[@joescissorhands141]

Those transfers WTH??? I've never seen that type of layout it's brilliant, awesome job Stihl!!! Re not going online to find others' work...I'm not so sure I'd be quick to brag on that man, learning from others on this type of thing is all but required if you wanna be as good as you can, to not learn from others (which inherently includes looking at #'s) is to severely handicap yourself....but I'm suspecting you meant it more like "I don't *only* copy #'s", find it nearly impossible to believe you don't even google to see what others do (I mean, maybe not, you did mention "going through" a ton of saws learning....kinda figured that was hyperbolic but I'll certainly cede that you could learn by going-through a bunch of trial&error experiments instead of learning from others!) That baffle on the OEM, thanks for showing that, have been having a helluva time making decent mufflers (I can't weld, otherwise I'd just do those pipes/bear-claw types that Harv & Billy are using), I love that idea of a solid-bottom baffle (would wanna open it WAY up from OEM dimensions, but would love like 50% of the bottom half of that baffle), I just did my 1st good (will see when tested I guess :P ) muffler for my 660's, I literally carved a piece of sheet metal to sandwich in between the muff halves to act as 'baffle and defection wall', it is secured in 3 of the 4 corners but its bottom-clutchside corner does a sharp bend inwards back to the exhaust-flange, so the exhaust pulse is literally shot-back at the flange, optimizing backpressure & scavenging! And that corner is lifted enough that more-than-enough air can get-around it, into the "front half", for escape through a large half-dollar sized hole in the front-plate :) Thanks as always it is so cool hearing your thought-process on this stuff, majorly appreciate it!!

[@bartthomas2895]

What did your final blowdown come to? Orig was 14° (154-140). Also, what was the original squish? How did you decrease it? Did you just delete the base gasket or did you mill the cylinder base too?

[@G-PA-2795]

Thanks for sharing that. Looking forward to more.

[@billybowen3023]

This is great videos for building confidence. Thanks again 👍

[@timberray9572]

I subscribed a few weeks ago because the content is solid, I am a man of simple taste. I open the exhaust a little and drill some extra vent holes in the air filter cover, what all you builders do is witchcraft to me but I love to watch.

[@tinmanssaws]

Witchcraft and sorcery yep!!

[@rncboy2]

Harvs small ramps i usually do 2 on the top of the intake port and they definitely help out a lot more then I expected. could be worth a try. Very good videos buddy keep it up new subscriber here.

[@tennesseedave6771]

Awesome stuff! Keep up good work buddy & that 500 mark goin to grow quickly!!

[@joescissorhands141]

BTW flywheel fins-- I got a saw to salvage/repair, thing ate something solid and lost multiple fins and also had its coil knocked-off the block so badly it stripped one of the 2 coil-mount holes! Saw runs fine to this day w/o having balanced the fins (I *couldn't*, lol, there was already too much material gone I needed what was left to do its job fanning the cylinder), I know it's just a case study of 1 but figured to share because it's always astounded me that it works, both how imbalanced the flywheel is and that the coil is McGuyver'd in there I literally pressure-fit the flywheel-casing to press-into a block of Permatex I poured in-place to aid in pegging the coil in place! This hasn't "just run" it's been running for nearly 2yrs, though admittedly I don't use it anymore I just start it now&then to ensure it still works, it's too heavy compared to my other climbsaws now, but it runs very well!! Would bet that a 2-fin loss would not affect *anything* in any significant way, with it balanced how you did, hopefully you have updates on this one will go check! Thanks as always for the A+ content!!

[@johnelliott4521]

Intake slightly rough increases swirl glass smooth.

[@AmericanPiddler]

Love your channel thanks for sharing! May have to try & do something together in 2021!

[@pm270100]

nice that will cut well

[@307j.o.a.t9]

Cant wait to see that saw runnin in some big wood!!

[@tinmanssaws]

Hey 307 good to see ya bud!!

[@constructionduru5195]

@Tinman you pick the 461 up at a J.J. Kane auction a few weeks ago?

[@tinmanssaws]

No i bought this one like 4 months ago.

[@tedjohn441]

What do you use for a base gasket? I only replaced one cylinder and I used Permatex Red High Temp.

[@tinmanssaws]

Permatex motoseal is what i use.

[@tedjohn441]

@@tinmanssaws Where can I find it. I looked on amazon and they didn't have it. Maybe my search was wrong. I used it on a 200t clone which I rebuild using as many OEM parts as I had to. They are a small package and not the easiest to work on!!! I hope it holds up.

[@tinmanssaws]

I buy my mototseal at any autoparts store.

[@justincharland653]

I think you very much for helping everybody with your channels and I have learned a lot from your channels I was wondering do you do basic porting for people ? I have a still MS-461R chainsaw that I have done a little bit of mods to the air filter cover and the muffler I'm going to receive my new port muffler kid I have a friend that's helping with help me with it but the porting part he does not have time to do I'm trying to do that myself and I have a 395 XP chainsaw that I'm doing that too it has a modified air filter system that I did to it and a ported muffler and by the summer I'm planning to save enough money to do one of the one of them ported first anyway I do find help your channel is very helpful to help people. !!

[@localcrew]

I have a 461 that I may do some tweaking on one of these days.

[@coreyhorrocks3504]

500 subs!

[@MegaDirtyberty]

Good stuff TM. I posted revised numbers for my 260 on your last video. Let me know if they are ok.

[@tinmanssaws]

Check my about page. My emails on there. I'd love to chat with ya

[@MegaDirtyberty]

@@tinmanssaws Will do.

[@MegaDirtyberty]

@@tinmanssaws Email sent.

[@tanneroliver4068]

Lol he nows what he's doing that's for sure

[@jamiedalluge9472]

Buddy a mine took a 462 and hogged out the muffler and changed the timming and cldnt believe the difference

[@justinweaver8787]

Hopefully when I get my 461 goin I can get it ported that is my goal.

[@tinmanssaws]

Email me when you do that if you need help.

[@justinweaver8787]

@@tinmanssaws awesome thank you for that do u need entire saw to Port it or can I just send you the cylinder or? What's best?

[@justinweaver8787]

@@tinmanssaws either way is ok just asking ur preference /thoughts.

[@tinmanssaws]

@@justinweaver8787 its all good brother, if i was going to do it I need the whole saw.

[@justinweaver8787]

@@tinmanssaws ok no problem I think I'll stick with the original plan cylinder and have it ported an I found a hyway pop up piston with caber rings an depending on the squish possibly a base gasket delete squish permitting that is but got to run it alill bit 1st make sure bottom end is sound plus I got to get a dual port muffler cover an remove the baffle in the muffler it has that weird baffle that directs the exaust to the top of the muffler chamber idk y lol. It has no bucking spikes an the clutch cover is busted and the starter recoil spring grenaded out of the starter cover while I was changing the starter paws an pull rope so I either have to get a cover or get the factory spring wound tight enough to get it back in the lil channel and get the pulley back on it before it flys out lol joy for me lol. But it probably won't be very long and I'll have the parts an alil run time and I'll be ready to send it to you to work ur magic.

[@tanneroliver4068]

Dont no whose better u or ironhorse lol

[@tinmanssaws]

Thats a huge compliment, but Harvey has forgotten more then I know :)