Stihl Chainbrake Repair :How To (Ground Saw)

Show how to fix your broken chain brake on a stihl ground saw.

[@adrianrog]

Thanks for the video. I liked that it wasn't 2 hours of comments, just straight to how to do the repair. I got my brake handle replaced in about 15 minutes thanks to your video.

[@jenhul1]

Thanks it helped me to solve my problem on my MS 260. Mine was full of sticky gunk of sawdust and oil. Once cleaned out, the break worked again. No tour to a service shop needed!

[@jhlasound]

Awesome video. This is the way it’s done. I don’t care about a bunch of nonsense background info, or people showboating wasting my time. This helped me get my saw back and running . Thank you very much !

[@moorefab8192]

Perfect, all I needed was the view of how it was configured but I watched it all. Just put a $45 MS280 big bore kit on my 270 and gutted the muffler. Runs beautifully now.

[@chadland71]

The fact you did it twice and kept it in the video, the WTF 🤬 earned a follow from me bro 😂 good video thanks!

[@rockdog2240]

Congratulations on no music. Just clear and precise instructions. Thanks

[@rightmath66]

EXCELLENT!! Showed me exactly what I was questioning about my 440 and a loose piece on the interior! Many thanks!

[@GrotrianSeiler]

This video was awesome. So helpful. Exactly my problem. Handle fine but jammed. Now I know what to look at. Band is probably just bent. Thanks man.

[@andrewpearse53]

Thanks. Really useful. I love the background music and sound track (sirens etc) too.

[@zxBiiOHaZaRDxz]

Thanks for the video. Got a Ms390 for free without a brake. Bought all the pieces, this is exactly the video I needed to get it back together!

[@zaineridling]

You made that look easy. Thanks for showing all your steps and your tweak fix at the end.

[@ninthtoe]

great vid, clear, top work. nice spanner alignment too!

[@tinkermorgan9607]

Thanks for going into such detail with this. I gave up last night bc I couldn't find a video with any detail.

[@chuckychuck]

Salute to you human for helping out that family.

[@josephpeters2367]

All I can say is your a professional I love that torque screw wrench

[@rypie37]

Thanks Human - this was super useful!!

[@marknicholson2718]

I have found that using a Phillips screw driver works well for installation of the spring. Slide spring hook over Phillips driver shaft. Put valley of screw driver tip on spring stud, stand shaft up as you slide the spring down. Hold spring down as you turn the shaft. Spring will snap on to the stud.

[@ceejay6882]

Helped me with the big spring. 👍

[@steelthunder76]

Great video and thats not something I give out very often so thank you

[@oakchopperman]

Thanks Corrie you’ve just saved me hours of cussing 🤬 by the where you gone man hope your ok be safe

[@gregmorain8360]

Great video! Thanks. I had no idea the brake mechanism was so simply designed. My 211 had a broken "bear" spring. The assembly was very similar to the one in the video. An easy fix once the part arrives -had to order it. 3 bucks, no complaints. Take care.

[@Human1337]

Glad to have helped =)

[@jarkolimbo9268]

Nicely done. Good tips and nice skill set. Appreciate it!

[@Jules01710]

Thxs just had to do this on may 261 . I found needle nose mole grips great for the big spring.

[@thzzzt]

Thanks, I was almost trying to take the whole thing apart before I found this and how simple it was. You're right, big spring is a bear. And I'm just a wee man. Part of the problem is just holding onto the saw. I ended up straddling the saw and holding it with my legs, then using a screwdriver to pry the hook into position simultaneous with needle nose to push the hook on.

[@mymortonisms]

Thanks buddy! I appreciate all your videos... But especially this one!

[@sylvanogross5303]

Very informative video, thanks. Now I can repair it myself!

[@kjinohio5897]

Much respect for leaving the stuff in that happens to all of us! Appreciate you posting this kind of how to stuff as even if you do it all the time it's nice to pick up someone else's way or tips.

[@Dannon1111]

bought one used for 12 bucks.... saved me some cash. Thanks man. EDIT.... I also got that spring on and off with my drum break tool.

[@NSE54]

I love how real you and your videos are. Keep up the good work brother 👍

[@Human1337]

I try, glad you enjoy, thanks =)

[@johnclarke6647]

I put a pair of hemostats on the big spring and roll it off the back pin with a scrench. It will go flying, hence the reasons for the hemostats. The rest is pretty simple to remove and replace. I fabricated a spring installation tool from a 3/16”nut driver. I smoothed the end with my angle driver and smoothed it down with my orbital dander. I put a little grease on it, put it through the loop in the spring and on the rear pin. I then stand it up and push the spring down on the pin and remove the tool. It works fine. Stihl also makes a tool for this but mine only cost me a little effort.

[@WildAcresFarms]

Tore down an old 044 for a new piston & cylinder. This is a huge help upon reassembly. Thanks for sharing.

[@tomhopkins6758]

that helped me out! i couldnt remember how the little one in the back went..THANK YOU

[@pikayell]

Thanks. Although my Farm Boss had some different parts, this video helped a lot.

[@montestreecutting9152]

good video. those springs are a pain sometimes. looks like you have good way doing it.

[@stihlnz]

Excellent vid ... on my MS660 I had to put the lower bake spring on the C b4 putting everything on the pegs .. it just wouldn't fit once it was all in place. With the help of a stihl hook it went well. OK I'm back ...broken another one ... this time I'm putting some fibrefix fiberglass 1" tape around the weak point to give it some extra strength.

[@patkirk960]

I’ve just done a very similar fix to a MS170 (one of the smallest saws) I fitted the brake band kind of at 90 degrees to the clip it’s attached to then rotate to the correct orientation, note that the slot is a T shape. Also there was a tiny heat shield strip screwed on the brake handle. The Chinese knock off replacement handle did not have any screw holes. I missed this until it was all assembled! It’s very close to a hot catalytic converter

[@shanemurrell531]

Thank you for the knowledge! Much appreciated.

[@3frenchtoast3]

Thanks for the help. Was struggling with that spring before I watched your advice

[@joshuasmith449]

Great video. Appreciate you sharing your knowledge.

[@whippetnripit]

Thank you ! just what I needed !

[@freddiejohnson3936]

Yes a buddy of mine has a stihl chainsaw just like that one it did the same thing the other day so i had to check this channel for the problem im pretty good on small engine's outdoors equipment only sometime i have to make sure that i don't make any mistakes on small parts of which way they go back on love this video which was entertainment and funny at the same time

[@stephenneeson5194]

Really starting to love this guy... last 2 seconds made me laugh 👌

[@alexmcmanus6377]

done and done. you the man bud, thanks

[@grahambruce3271]

Ok, now I know what to expect when I start to open up the sidecover of my saw. Cheers ..... I'm not as worried as I was now.

[@squarepegroundhole8186]

easier than I thought thanks I have a junk 033 I think about take handle off it to fix my 028 av super hope it's same i loved that saw. I replaced it with a 029 but never fell in love with it I miss the 028

[@KryptoWooks]

nice clean video thanks for sharing

[@bvbjb]

Another great video brother! :) !!!!!!!! :D!!!!!!!!! Thank you for sharing.

[@morganseep5365]

Awesome thanks for that man helped me a ton!

[@owheydusoapsk]

Thank you. Mine broke in exactly the same place. Great saw though.

[@Okkis07]

Very helpfull. Thanks a lot! 😊

[@stihlnz]

Thanks for your knowledge and time ... beers on me Wanaka NZ.

[@omgitsjakelang]

Great trick for getting that spring back on.

[@daviddobedoe]

Thanks, helpful video

[@brewerfireguy]

Good video. Thank you

[@ScottLRoyal]

I like your teaching style and video quality. I swapped out my handle in 2018. Just retesting the inertia chain brake recently with the drop test (onto a stump) and the inertia brake does not work. The handle does however trigger the chain brake like it should. Any ideas? Also for reassembling that spring, I was taught to place a piece of metal brake line into the hook on the left end of the spring and then the line will fit over the post allowing the spring to more easily go onto the post.

[@irondoger]

I love the real world language 😂😂🙏 thanx for sharing your knowledge.

[@hansenfamily3771]

Great video, friend asked me to look at his saw that got driven over, handles are trashed. Note: I am a girl so I use end of bottle nail polish to mark the right side out of parts, and use a big zip lock bag around my hand and tool to catch springs and such that tend to fly

[@Thehoelogdog]

love those old Homelites and Jon Sereds up on the shelf.

[@DJJazzyDwight]

The outtake is the real deal. I feel the frustration sometimes.

[@barrettbarker8343]

That's exactly how it is in real life! Patience is an important lesson!

[@tylerpennington3656]

10/10 video.

[@bman6065]

Thanks for saving my sanity I was about to start playing with my feces

[@RurallyRetreated]

Thank you!

[@pedrofuster6458]

On my saw the pin that holds the small spring in place broke. How do I go about fixing this? You reference this spring at 3:29. Thanks!

[@forreststrong797]

If you work on saws a lot a dirtbike exhaust spring puller works really well to install that spring.

[@HP83Smoke]

Great tutorial. Thanks. If only I bought the right brake handle though 🙄

[@johnkerr2528]

I have an old AV 034 super. The pivot post (where the C clip attaches to) broke off. Can that be repaired? I tried to epoxy it back on (didn't hold). The 'metal' isn't weldable, so I'm not sure how to fix this?

[@cadamsm11]

I liked the video...I currently have a similar 311, and all the mechanism is intact, but when you pull the handle back, it does not make it to the point of ‘clicking’ to disengage the brake. The little piece of that metal lever that almost looks like a chain link does not straighten all the way before the plastic handle makes it to the end of its travel. Can’t figure it out...fairly new saw. It you pry it with a screwdriver, it will click into place, but the handle won’t do it..

[@losttheplot26]

Thanks mate. Just had another saw where the brake clicks but doesn't engage.

[@robertpomerleau8740]

Thank you.

[@OhSoddit]

Thanks for the vid, gives me a "chance" of trying to fix (or at least investigate) mine myself. Chainsaw runs ok. BUT, when I go to sharpen the chain on the bar, it's almost impossible to advance the chain by hand. I can move it BACKWARDS (still stiff, but moves), just not forwards. Regardless of chain tension (even if I slacken it a lot). I'm guessing the chainbrake is somehow out of adjustment, and constantly dragging??

[@darrenpierce9903]

Mines difficult as he'll to move chain forward. I suspect the brake band on the drum needs to be eased off a little / re- tensioned but not sure. Did you manage to sort?.. please explain how ?.. thanks

[@engineeringfarmer3230]

what does the small spring you reconnected do? My brake engages too easily.... I think it could be the culprit!

[@nicklloyd9165]

Thank you

[@matthewhall9530]

If this ever happens to another of your saws there is a tool for working on drum brakes that will make putting that spring back on.

[@7eis]

Fixed a friends 270. Was broken in the exact same place. I wonder if they make that the weakest point on purpose.

[@Human1337]

Could be, I'm not certain. This saw was left for scrap at the shop I used to work at, and I brought it back to life. I've no clue how rough of a life it had before I took it in though.

[@kolbyellington7090]

I know this is probably dumb. But does it matter if the brake was disengaged when you took it apart vs engaged.

[@gsxrlonewolf4088]

Awesome. Had a guy break the chain brake in the EXACT spot yours broke, so looking up how to fix it my main human was the first vid to pop up lol, so thanks bro, all because that bottom mechanism had came off. So hopefully the shop I go to has one in stock. Side question....ha e a recommendation on a cleaner to use besides just blowing it out with my air compressor? Stay safe human 🤘🤘

[@gsxrlonewolf4088]

Was a 251 that it broke on, still like you said similar set up so was really helpful

[@Human1337]

I generally just use the flat head on a scrench to get all the big solid crud out, and then compressed air, as I'm sure you're aware of though, using air covers everything in a 5' radius in oily saw dust =/

[@Tonnsfabrication]

I use brake parts cleaner for the majority then air to finish. ( Note) a stiff handle can be caused by a clogged brake band.It's important to keep the compacted dust out of the wiggle room between the clutch drum, band and the housing. If it gets compacted and the band loses its ability to move in as well as out, it will tighten up the mechanism and shit will start breaking and falling off. I have an 046 and I find it important to keep that area clean.

[@CowboyAxe]

I plan on getting an MS291, but I read on line many accounts of the MS291 being burned up by the chain brake, I suspect it was mostly by careless users, but many of them blame the chainsaw.. Anyway was there any problem with the saw brake on that model? I doubt it but it is better to be safe than sorry. Thank you.

[@Human1337]

We've a 291 at work that hasn't been an issue, but I've not been around any 291's in service for more than a year though, so can't really say.

[@CowboyAxe]

I am pretty confident it was a user screw up. They ruin a new saw and their ego will not let them tell the truth. The brake will not engage by its self. The Stihl instructions about starting with the brake engaged and people forgetting to disengage it, or a saw so dirty the pitch and sap build up was hugging the band, hahaha.Thank you for your reply and I will buy it, sure it will be amazing.

[@CTSCAPER]

What happened to the guy with the beard? I need to have a look at that on my 066. The chain brake engages but it has to be way up near the handle.

[@Human1337]

LOL, I wanted to keep it, but I went to a seminar the other day and felt I had to look a bit more professional. I actually just fixed the very same problem on our 660 at work. Turned out that the handle itself was bent, and effected the points at which the chainbrake engaged/disengaged. I took it off and bent it back into a resemblance of factory shape, works much better now. Would really piss me off, would always engage with the slightest bit of motion, really, really annoying.

[@LdHrothgar]

Beards ARE professional. Just sayin...

[@travis2511]

Off topic do you run the hd2 on the 661?

[@Human1337]

Yeah, it's what it came with.

[@buddyirvin7989]

My MS 180C Shuts off when engaging the Chainbrake, cause?

[@sethpatterson7998]

Hell yeah 🍻

[@donfrank4429]

I took photos of steps then used the photo if I needed replacing all the parts

[@rap5374]

I’ve been running my ms361 with no hand break for over a year. Dangerous, I know. Just got a new hand break to replace the broken one… better safe than sorry, a year later lol.

[@donfrank4429]

I did this same on my 025 stihl replace the brake handle

[@FishFind3000]

Funny thing is taryl fixes all just put out a video on this for a 192 today for the same problem.

[@ebomb4life1]

Take a flat head screw driver, grind a slot in the middle. Place the tip on the spring stud with the spring up towards the top of the screw driver handle, it will be at an angle, pull back and it slides right on. I've fucked myself up on the spring until I started using the slotted screwdriver.

[@Human1337]

That's a great idea =)

[@GrapenutsCO9495]

I have a part #3 that isn't in this video, help??

[@Human1337]

Can't really help you there without seeing it.

[@GrapenutsCO9495]

Human - I have a diagram but don't know how to post it here. Thanks anyway.

[@kirbyroad5743]

Boy stihl really dropped the ball making that pivoting piece from plastic. Both of my old 038 have a thick metal piece and the handle bolts to the ear sticking out of the cover. Wish they'd go back to more metal and less plastic on these moving parts.

[@jarkkolouhe11]

great video!you are good educator!

[@GotrekGurninsson]

automotive drum brake spring tools work great to remove and install that spring.

[@al9094]

Don't know if somebody else told you if you get a 6" long piece of 5/16 steal fuel line slide it in the spring" were you had the pliers" then place it over the post and push spring down then remove tube watch "taryl fixes all" on KZbin shows how to do this and he'll make you laugh

[@FishFind3000]

That out take tho.

[@martinellis7639]

My Motor stops as soon as I apply the brake.

[@rwat1106]

I guess I'll go ahead and pull the trigger on a 260, for $125, because "the brake won't engage" :)

[@CarlMadsen]

Well, did you get it to work?

[@vtrombly]

lol just did this myself earlier...that spring is a bitch

[@culbyj3665]

c clips are actually called jesus christ clips for a reason. JESUS CHRIST the focker sprung and youll never find it again. Cool Vid HUMAN

[@mfk12340]

Newish? My saw is from 1974. That still counts as newish i think

[@deanlarkins5858]

Technically those are not C clips. They are E clips.

[@jessicamesser6449]

No one ain't going to do that every time you cut a tree down. Brand new 2 days then saw messed up these saws aint worth $211 dollars their cheap made junk.