Stihl MSA220C vs Echo DCS 3500 vs Husqvarna 540 iXP vs EGO CS1800E

[@Brian-Outdoors]

I love my Husqvarna T540iXP but I use the BLI200X battery with it. Cuts super fast for a battery saw and lasts a long time.

[@bilal5398]

Excellent video, deserved millions of views !! Keep it up 👍

[@JanMaesOutdoorTraining]

Thanks Bilal.

[@stephendixon8575]

Super interesting comparison video. Thanks for putting this together; I’ve been wondering how the Stihl MSA 220C compared to others on the market, including the Husqvarna 540iXP (which has amazing reviews elsewhere). I saw in the comments that you didn’t get chance to use the AP300S battery on the Stihl, which is a shame but it’s also important to note that the charging times demonstrated should reflect the batteries’ power capacity. Whilst the Husqvarna may have taken the longest to charge, I checked and it’s 9.8Ah, whereas the Stihl AP300 is only 6.3Ah, so no wonder it was so much quicker. The AP300S is still only 7.8Ah by comparison but I’ve seen how it gives a massive performance boost to the MSA220C saw too, so maybe they’re much more evenly matched if this is taken into account. Didn’t check the battery specs of the Echo or the EGO, but clearly the batteries’ spec will be central to how all these perform.

[@JanMaesOutdoorTraining]

Hi Stephen, thanks for your feedback. Husqvarna is performing also very good due to the SP21 oregon chain. I did a separate test with the 540iXP on a 3/8 1,3 chain (like the others) and the performance was equal.

[@petrstudna7774]

Stihl has introduced the all-new MSA 300 cordless chainsaw, powered by the new AP 500 S battery, which is unbeatable. The chain speed of 30 m/s speaks for itself. There is one promotional video on KZbin so far.

[@1989cranston]

Thanks for the heads up mate. Just had a look and there is 1 video out 2 weeks ago. The thing looks insane. Definitely way more power than the average person will use haha. Definitely aimed at the professional, full-time job user. Hopefully the AP500S can be used in the msa220 which would be nice.

[@JanMaesOutdoorTraining]

Yes, I've seen it on Facebook, but at the moment of testing this MSA300 wasn't available and still not available here before 2022. But good thing to include in one of the next year tests.

[@petrstudna7774]

@@JanMaesOutdoorTrainingOK, I'm looking forward.. :-)

[@ReversXC]

Echo DCS3500 and husqvarna 540iXP close in features and price. The MSA 300 kit will cost 450 euros more.

[@stuartritch7262]

Can’t get it in Canada

[@ozarkliving7263]

Just picked up my 220 CB Stihl tonight. As I already have multiple 300 batteries and chargers, as well as the HSA 66 hedge trimmer and the FSA 135 R string trimmer, I’m set.

[@thinkconstruction1182]

How did you get it? I can't find one anywhere

[@skip5500]

In the US, EGO is a homeowner brand sold in regular DIY stores. I wonder why the european importer wants these tools on the same shelf as Stihl or Husqy.

[@markhardacre1]

Why not use 300s batteries on the stihl??

[@k9chainsaw]

It was very helpful. I would like to see a comparison with the same saw chain and the same length. Thank you.

[@JanMaesOutdoorTraining]

I'll see what I can do. Any preference for a chain? Stihl or oregon?

[@k9chainsaw]

Thank you for your reply. I would like a 3/8 pitch 1.1mm gauge with a STIHL saw chain. Thank you.

[@n-wnw3145]

Hi, very good test, can you also include makita duc 353?

[@JanMaesOutdoorTraining]

If Makita can offer me one for testing I'm willing to include it, but it's not in my fleet right now.

[@ozarkliving7263]

How does not having the same bar length on all impact the test?

[@Positiveclimb01]

Where did you buy the plastic oil container from.?, it looks really good and doesn't make any mess!

[@JanMaesOutdoorTraining]

It's for sale on my website of you can find it from Fill Partner in The Netherlands.

[@brandonswan9247]

wonderful fair comparison. looks like the 540 is the best right now. the Echo is a great value for the money.

[@JanMaesOutdoorTraining]

thanks Brandon. I think so too.

[@dane1293]

Thanks for this excellent summary video of these chainsaws

[@xakisn.service9132]

Very nice video Jan!!Thanks!!

[@whos-your-mate]

Really impressed with the Ego for keeping up with the biggest names I'm the game 👍

[@mulimuli9844]

Excellent test. Only you have the strongest battery powered saws (stihl msa 220 and husky 540i) in dirwct comparison. 👍👍 Maybee for the stihl, its a disadvantage using the AP300 instead of the AP300s. On the other hand the husqvarna has a 40cm sword. But not that big deal. The Echo looks nice too. The ego looks a big clumsy. I heard some complaines about the egos battery overheats fast. Can you tell such problems?

[@JanMaesOutdoorTraining]

Hi Muli Muli, According the dealer and the Stihl website I can use AP200, AP300 & AP300s in the MSA220. the difference in run-time between AP300 & AP300s is 2min so I doubt there will be a significant difference between the 2 batteries. Stihl proposed to try the AP300 vs AP300s so I can do a side by side test, but no further news from their side. :( Regarding the EGO battery I didn't experienced the overheating, but maybe that's a good thing to try.

[@JanMaesOutdoorTraining]

@@caseyandgina Yes Ive tried the 2,5 Ah in the new tophandle chainsaw and I experienced exactly the same thing.

[@MrSuedehead69]

Excelente video me hubiera gustado que probara la Echo 58V con batería de 4 amp

[@petrstudna7774]

It is unfair. You should use AP300 S battery, not AP300 only (STIHL).

[@JanMaesOutdoorTraining]

Waiting for Stihl to provide me a AP300s

[@justindavis8102]

Excatly

[@akseven4097]

And He use the Old Battery Version from the AP300

[@vincenzomele863]

Oleomac gsi 30 ?

[@dirk_krueger_baumkrueger7612]

Moin Jan Very interesting video. Wich motor-chainsaw is to the DCS-1600 equal? 🤔 Greetings, Dirk

[@JanMaesOutdoorTraining]

Hi Dirk, It's a 1.6kW motor.

[@dirk_krueger_baumkrueger7612]

@@JanMaesOutdoorTraining Thanks. 💪 ✌️🤠🌳🌲

[@dirk_krueger_baumkrueger7612]

@@JanMaesOutdoorTraining 💪

[@albertescruela6727]

buena comparación 🆚

[@JanMaesOutdoorTraining]

Gracias amigo

[@francobellorti5500]

Compliments for the time you have invest..... you have done a beautifull relase!!! i've some stupid but interesting things to ask..... how much is the duration of the battery on the same size of peace of wood with the same wh battery? and how many wh have each battery..... maybe Husqvarna is long to recharge becouse has high capacity..... but at the end which is the best in the real use? thanks in advance for the time you lose for us!!

[@JanMaesOutdoorTraining]

Hello Franco, thank you for your comment and question. First of all it's not a stupid question, but next week's video will answer some of your questions. In this test I've used following batteries: Echo 2P = 185Wh Stihl AP300 = 227Wh Husqvarna BLI300 =336Wh EGO BT2800 = 280Wh In a previous movie with the 200Wh batteries (MSA200 vs DCS1600 vs 535iXP) Husqvarna had also a longer time needed then what was given from factory, but they all performed good. In 2 weeks I will launch my evaluation video about the 4 chainsaws. Stay tuned.

[@francobellorti5500]

@@JanMaesOutdoorTraining Thank you very much!!!! i'll stay tuned!!!

[@iverburl6350]

Purpose of hole in the bar end revealed!

[@schwobalogger6401]

ein Vergleich der großen Akkusägen, MSA300 und DCS5000 wäre genial.

[@sirvozelo1]

As far has I can see in performance huskvarna wins against all others I just buy the sthil because is cheaper.

[@slurrpot9969]

Please no music with drums while speaking!!!

[@JanMaesOutdoorTraining]

Thanks for the advice. :)

[@JanMaesOutdoorTraining]

You know that most of the movies have about 10 CC /subtitles available.

[@Santeri_M]

wrong battery in the stihl. using the ap300 leads to reduced performance...

[@ozarkliving7263]

Very true, the saw needs the 300S or it’s power is reduced by 25%

[@julianalderson3938]

Yer still best battry seen. Saw is.

[@ДимаЛызин]

Супер

[@sirvozelo1]

I am a huskvarna fun I just buy the sthil because here in Portugal is about 200 euros cheaper, I have the 300S battery and the 300 but so far I haven't notice that much of a difference. However anyone barely lasts 30 minutes. So far I not feel so bad about the sthil my only negative is that it seems like some Chinese thing I mean to much cheap plastic and the way the chain and blade atach don't seems like a professional to run all day, seems more for ocasional and not professional.

[@deanherde805]

Stihl plastic is a very high quality ballistic polymer which is very tough and lasts for years.

[@julianalderson3938]

Msa 300 looks good.

[@sirvozelo1]

As I said I buy the stihl at that time and not the hsukvarna because the price, the time had pass and never have problems I can say I am happy, because one battery fits all I end up buying the Stihl 161T (a work horse), the trimmer 135 and now about 2 months ago I buy the Stihl MSA300, this one is a different story is no way the 22OC got even closer, you just cant compare the 220C with MSA300, I been using the AP500 battery and the AP300S however with AP300S it only works in ECO-MODE, you not getting full power. In my opinion the MSA300 is a great and powerful saw, the down side is that even the bigger battery AP500 it feel like still weak for this saw. I hope stihl with come up with a battery at same level as this saw the MSA300.

[@msblawnmowinglandscapingan1660]

The Husqvarna Won For The First Time 🤞

[@hubihubertus1966]

Husqvarna is the best.

[@julianalderson3938]

Stihl will be better bit think take a while.

[@deanstavalone6960]

your comparison has HUGE HOLES in it. You didn't compute the weighted cut times or bore times. WTF!!! It's like the ONLY criteria by which someone would make a choice. FAIL!!!!

[@JanMaesOutdoorTraining]

You can check my previous video MSA200 vs DCS-1600 and 535iXP there is a part where I do this with 200Wh batteries including the cuts and square meters/ battery charge.

[@deanstavalone6960]

And furthermore you didn't even mention the Ah of the various batteries. the BLI300 is a NINE POINT FOUR Ah battery. I spelled it out for you!!! It's MORE THAN DOUBLE the other batteries!!! Your video is foolishness.

[@JanMaesOutdoorTraining]

Hello Dean, Thank you for your comment. The most important for a battery are the Wh (Watt hours) This is Voltage x Amp hours. Stihl and Husqvarna using 36V batteries, Echo is using 56V batteries. Stihl and Husqvarna need to increase their Ah in order to reach higher Wh/power output from the batteries. Higher Ah will lead to Higher temperatures generated during charing and discharging what will activate the overload protection much quicker and will also shorten the battery cell life time.