Still Another 15 Mistakes of AT4W - Atop the Fourth Wall

[@Kennwood132]

Dear Linkara, I am 28 years old. I turned 16 years old when I discovered your content. I had serious suicidal tendencies. The videos of yourself and The Spoony One kept those dark thoughts at the edge of my mind. I can't thank you enough for that. Over a decade later I am beyond proud to both witness and support the content that kept me alive. For over a decade you kept me from surrendering to despair and helped me crack my knuckles and ask what's next? I found what's next and it made me happy. I couldn't have reached this point without your silly help. Thank you.

[@professorpengu502]

I'm sorry that that happened to you I've also had suicidal thoughts through my life just remember things always get better

[@carlosalbuquerque22]

Keep holding on. I'm going through what you once went through, you give hope to me in turn.

[@widdershins3785]

It isn’t just one video or media that you owe it to or are dependant on. Merely a reminder to laugh or to find joy. It’s never only one thing that kept you here, but rather the start of an urge to seek out those things you wish to center your life around.

[@oatsie8727]

Man, I never really registered how what happened to Jim Gordon was just as much a sexual assault as what happened to Barbara. It shows how conditioned we are to see sexual assault of men as "comedic" or trivial. (Not an attack on you of course Linkara, just an observation)

[@Sperium3000]

It's cultural. Media has trained us to see sexual assault on men with less severity than with women. When it comes to sexism, women do get it worst, there is no doubt about that, but internalized sexism against men does exist. It's so ingrained in us we may not realize even when we're aware of it.

[@angel2.077]

​@@Sperium3000and what likely doesn't help is the stereotype that men always want sex. Especially harmful whenever it's a case of a predatory female teacher on a male student

[@carlosalbuquerque22]

Indeed. This is why male rape victims are often without resources

[@LordMayorOfDairyBell]

@@angel2.077 Some people believe that even when it makes no logical sense. "Yeah, I know he's a 5 year old boy who hasn't even experienced puberty but he clearly wanted to do it with his 41 year old teacher because she's hot!"

[@angel2.077]

@@LordMayorOfDairyBell it's beyond gross that this happens. Like ya, just because *you* wouldn't have a problem *consensually* being with this teacher, doesn't mean that it's "okay" that what happened has happened. Gross people are gross. No matter what

[@o76923]

I want to thank you for including multiple entries on this list about past times you have been insensitive on certain topics. You consistently address them well by offering a sincere apology, not trying to come up with excuses, and explaining what's wrong in an attempt to educate viewers all without centering it on yourself. With as common as apology videos have become, few people do them as well as you do. I really mean it. There are a lot of allies, activists, and creators who could stand to learn from your example-myself included.

[@professorpengu502]

​​​@@DarkOverlord96making jokes about sensitive topics can be bad which is why linkara corrected himself

[@psychic9200]

Linkara will never understand my insatiable nostalgic thirst for Pre-2016 KZbin! I demand all Reviewers have deep lore that begins and ends every video and expands to the point where they make movies about it. I'm being genuine here. There's nothing younger me enjoyed more than seeing my favorite internet reviews fight evil doppelgangers or personifications of bad tv and movies. Keep it up Man and I hope it's 10 More mistakes instead of 15 Next Year!

[@Cdr2002]

I love this comment and wholeheartedly agree

[@Kirkeyressa]

you might wanna check out Some More News! cody and his showdies (aka fellow staff and writers) have a bunch of running gags, plotlines and also a movie! the videos themselves are a bit heavier political topics, but still worth checking out imo if you're craving that old school lore-mixed-into-regular-content nostalgia (source: have been following linkara since 2008)

[@keyblademasterclark]

Dear Linkara, four days ago I broke two bones in my left foot at work. Your episodes have kept me entertained during this hard time. Thank you for the laughs and may you one day be victorious over the greatest evil of all...ANCIENT EGYPT! Edit: Thank you all for the positive wishes! I, personally, blame Ancient Egypt for this misfortune.

[@SpiderJack99]

Get well soon

[@keyblademasterclark]

@@SpiderJack99 thanks

[@ForrestFox626]

Feel better

[@kimberlybogert7031]

I'm so sorry:( get plenty of rest and take it easy now🌺

[@keyblademasterclark]

@@kimberlybogert7031 thank you!

[@davidspring4003]

"Why would Wookiee be spelled with 2 e's." You forget, Linkara, that their homeworld is called Kashyyyk. Spelled with THREE YS AND ONE WHY!

[@theincrediblebray5686]

I will admit that I thought the “Killing Joke” jokes that you made in the review were humorous but then when you included them on the list, it reminded me of an issue that our culture is still bias about and that is when a man gets sexually assaulted it’s either no big deal or even funny but when a woman gets sexually assaulted its treated appropriately as something horrible. I think that double standard is terrible and that everyone needs to be reminded that men can be victims of similar circumstances, especially myself. Thank you for all the work you put into to make insightful but also fun content. Maybe this year will be better than the last.

[@TechnicalJimActual]

Thank you for hearing me out about the issue I had about The Killing Joke review. We as a society really need to work on accepting that sexual misconduct/violence can happen to anyone, regardless of who they are (to your credit, you did mention that a bit in your Identity Crisis review.) People who have been harmed in such ways should be encouraged to seek help & have easy/affordable access to therapy to help them overcome difficulties & properly heal. You (& Bennet the Sage addressing a similar situation during his De:vadasy review) have helped to nudge things in a small, but not insignificant way, in the proper direction. Hopefully more people will follow suit eventually.

[@The_Vertebrate_Squidgal]

Don't feel too bad about getting the Shadow Android thing wrong. When Shadow was first introduced, there was a consistent recurring trend in the series of various characters mistaking him and Sonic for one another (that's been turned into something of a running joke since they look and act nothing alike). So I can totally see it being a running joke in-universe to have characters mistake the Shadow Androids for Metal Sonic despite them being completely separate robots. And thank you Linkara for continuing to do what you do and for always striving to be better at it. I first started watching these videos as a depressed teenager with serious anger issues, but I've come a long way since then and I always look forward to your show. Your optimistic outlook and fun snark are a true delight, and always remind me of the bright parts of humanity that the best superhero comics always try to show in people. Hope you have a good year. P.S. once I have money, totally getting one of those trans pride robomats ^-^

[@HersheyHemi1]

I love the ' We've always had Cats" Running Joke!

[@DoomMomDot]

are we ever going to find out what the deal is with that?

[@EmperorSeth]

...joke?

[@AT4W]

Yes. =)

[@Pikachu2Ash]

@@AT4W Ya I figured there would be some follow up about all those weird memory eraser type beings who kept showing up during Halloween to clean shit up.

[@ultra6671]

What do you mean "joke"? He's always had cats.

[@thatsgib6015]

everybody makes mistakes, but not everyone is willing to make an entire video dedicated to correcting those mistakes, and apologizing for making them. This is one of the reasons why I continue watching you after all these years, because you are a kind and caring person, who wants to make videos for enjoyment and entertainment. It's been a rough year, but we were all here together because of you. Happy new year everyone, here's to 2024.

[@thedangerwich5476]

That is hilarious that a fan actually tracked you down to tell you that the person really did get shot in alone in the dark.

[@AT4W]

They had mentioned it in the comments first and since they were also going to be at Too Many Games, they decided to prove it in person. XD

[@transagentcooper8041]

Thanks for another year linkara. Your videos have been making me smile thru dark times for 15 years now, so heres to another 15 (at least). And good luck on the 52!

[@charleshockenbury353]

You're a real Honorable Man Linkara Whether it's trying to maintain a aschedule, improving your craft, and even owning up to past failings You've always proven to be kind, honest, hard working, and trying to do best by your fans for those reasons and more I'm proud to call myself a lifelong fan Happy 2024 and more years to come!

[@gRinchY-op5vr]

With 2023 being the year many youtubers were revealed to have made alot of mistakes and internet crimes, I'm glad there are content creators like Linkara who make videos listing their mistakes and shortcomings without having someone else expose them.

[@Rabbitlord108]

And now that certain KZbinrs like Matpat are retiring (And remember. He's preparing to have people take over the theory channels. They will be to him. What Wally West was to Barry Allen following Crisis On Infinite Earths) It makes me wonder if any of them will follow in his footsteps (assuming that they've realized they tainted their reputation)

[@maxxjapan619]

You know what would've been a better strategy for the Guardians of the Universe to stop Hal Jordan? If they stood around in a circle and said "We should DO something!" "Should we... DO something?" "We should do something!" "Should we... DO something?"

[@MegamanNG]

Like you, 2023 was a rough year for me. For starters, I lost mi abuela on my mom's side. She passed away eight days before my birthday. It was horrid but eventually I grieved. I grieved a lot but all I can do is keep on going. Trust me. And 2024 will probably not be better considering I found out the MCN I'm under is in major trouble. It can explain why my pay had been delayed. At least watching these can help alleviate the stress. I only hope that 2024 will probably be a year things can be better. May it be better. Not just for you Linkara but for all of us. As I said so already. Expertly done Linkara. Expertly fucking done.

[@Cdr2002]

I wish you all the best ❤

[@MegamanNG]

@@Cdr2002 Thanks.

[@mesektet5776]

I’m almost disappointed Linkara didn’t get the Infinity Gauntlet and go “Fake!” Still congratulating on winning the Contest Of Champions and getting your Pokémon’s uploaded. Whatever other mistakes, those are still major accomplishments!

[@matthewcharles9813]

Always appreciate a content creator that actually looks at themselves and takes accountability. Been a fan of yours since I think 2010. Makes me happy to see you going strong.

[@ashurablaze7545]

I'll say this about The Killing Joke and its canon status: it was obviously meant to be canon. Batgirl Special #1, which came out DAYS BEFORE TKJ, was meant to be a send-off for Barbara's time as a heroine before being crippled.

[@connerharvey548]

Kudos for admitting your own mistakes. I didn't even consider the jokes made in killing joke review at the time, but I understand why it was viewed in bad taste. You're a good person and you're content has not only brought joy to many, but helped many through tough times(myself included). Here's to a new year and hope it's a good one.

[@buchiklop110]

As far as Teen Titans goes, the story I've always heard is that the show didn't have the budget for a 6th regular VA, so they could only do a few episodes with Terra before she could be considered a regular. It's why the show liked to use Gizmo as one of the default bad guys, because his VA was Tara Strong, who was already on the cast as Raven. The no-continuity thing is a little weird given stuff like Justice League and Ben 10 were pretty continuity-heavy and also running around the same time. And, of course, it's especially weird now when they have stuff like Steven Universe, Adventure Time, Gumball, and Craig of the Creek.

[@tkayube]

I believe "Heel-Face Turn" (and the counterpart, "Face-Heel Turn") is specifically the way the terms are phrased on TV Tropes, I guess in order to specify what the heel or face in question are turning into.

[@Enigmanaut]

“…That I’m making less mistakes overall.” Fewer mistakes. I’m so sorry

[@greatsayain]

You know what they say, 51 is the new 52.

[@anneginzburg1362]

Dear Linkara. I'm 20 now, and I first started watching when I was 13. I'm so appreciative of the show and of your sense of humor, your moral compass and how you conduct yourself. This last year has been hard for me, but I've gotten through it, and I'm so grateful for the levity the show brought, and in a moment of crisis, the guidance I could take. I showed a close friend "All that He Sees" last night and we had an amazing time! They really enjoyed it and we had a great time swapping interests. Thank you for all that you do. May the Fourth Wall keep standing for time immemorial!❤

[@StealthMarmot_]

Hey Linkara, ambitious plans for 2024, having a solid 52 episode. I know it might seem like 2023 was short in episodes, but it's worth noting that your episodes are also longer than they used to be. If you want some heartening math, between 2010 and 2022, the amount of hours (not episodes, hours) of Atop the 4th Wall every year came to almost exactly 25 hours. That's about a half hour of content a week for 50 weeks out of the year, and 2 weeks for time off, so overall extraordinarily solid. 2023 was a bit short, but not the shortest year you've had. Point is, I respect the hustle, but don't feel like you've been letting us down. You've been one of the most consistent creators I've watched considering you're such a small team of mostly just you. Don't work yourself into any early graves.

[@WillKeaton]

I only know what Crazy Quilt looks like because he was featured very prominently in the _Batman: The Brave and the Bold_ animated series episode "The Color of Revenge!", otherwise I'd have had no idea. In the episode, Robin accidentally blinds Crazy Quilt and, years later, the guy returns seeking revenge. It was one of the more memorable episodes. It also dealt with a Robin who stopped being sidekick to Batman during that time-skip and explored the relationship between the two.

[@Pikachu2Ash]

That episode was insane, hell the whole show was. Just like the Silver Age itself :)

[@Rabbitlord108]

Another interesting one is the body swap episode where Batwoman wanted to make The Riddler pay for unmasking her. Because it's one of the few animated body swap stories without the voice issue. Which means that if I had a nickel for every superhero cartoon which had at least one body swap story without the voice issue. I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's weird that I know its happened twice (for the record. The other one is the Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon)

[@Rabbitlord108]

​@@Pikachu2AshThis reminded me that the first time Joker showed up Batman Brave and the Bold is when Batman teamed up with him to fight Owlman.

[@GeneralKenobi75]

Actually Linkara, you did review a comic featuring that Algonquin Spirit. The first appearance of Wolverine in Incredible Hulk number 181.

[@sotnosen95]

Ah, but Linkaraa, isn't Ancient Egypt, as a country, a *minion* of your greatest foe Geography?

[@CrazyBuffyFan1]

52 is a chunky amount, but I'm also curious to see if you'll make it. Just please don't overwork yourself for our amusement. You're one of the most consistent people I watch on KZbin (yes, even with schedule slippage). :)

[@gentlemanlygeeky4088]

Ditto!

[@ShockwaveFPSStudios]

Is he retiring after 51 episodes?

[@professorpengu502]

​@@ShockwaveFPSStudiosno? At the beginning of the video he says his new year resolution is to do more videos

[@CrazyBuffyFan1]

@@ShockwaveFPSStudios No, he's aiming to do 51 more episodes before the end of 2024.

[@ShockwaveFPSStudios]

@@CrazyBuffyFan1 Why?

[@spencerhensey2322]

If I may say Linkara, Lewis, Mr. Lovhaug, I truly appreciate you and your hard work. Not only are you entertaining, and yes even funny, but you are also informational. Educational I dare say. And not just for comics but for other world information, you retraction of the certain native spirit mentioning being the best current example. I was not aware of this fact and like you am mostly aware of the Marvel character of the same name. I say all this as both a “shake you hand” kind of moment but also as a reassuring moment for you. About your schedule. I can understand the need for structure and the normal it can bring, but your job is stressful enough as it is. And yes I acknowledge the stress a KZbinr goes through, especially one who has been around as long as you. Your videos are like coming across gold for me. Whenever they pop up for me I jump in them. I wouldn’t assume I could speak for others but I do think it is safe to say, don’t worry about it. Life certainly has enough stresses and struggles in it. You do great work, and we your loyal fans are always happy when your videos drop, whenever they do. Hell in honesty I didn’t even know what your scheduled days were until this video. Cut yourself a little slack and a bit of grace. We got you no matter what.

[@shadowldrago]

I appreciate your humility and willing to accept your mistakes and improve on them. You’re a good man, Lewis. And I’m glad I found your channel.

[@CycloneShadowYT]

I don't wanna jinx it, but let's hope your schedule is back on track for 2024.

[@wolfmantheimpaler]

So if he falls behind on schedule, we can all blame you

[@__-dr5vm]

​@@wolfmantheimpaler remember the first time he's late we come back and dogpile this guy

[@thatonea-hole]

​@@wolfmantheimpaler *YES!!*

[@lonewolf6884]

@@wolfmantheimpaler If you ask me thats totally fair

[@CycloneShadowYT]

@@wolfmantheimpaler understood. I'm already writing my apology video to be published in 2025.

[@ShanaReviews]

Videos like these are important because it isn't just Linkara reflecting on his own past mistakes, but also granting the audience a chance to reflect with him. most of the other videos were fun watches and to me never felt like grievance mistakes, just ones you could joke about. this video though really made me reflect as well, especially the last two entries I genuinely had no idea the creature's name was Taboo and much like Linkara thought it was a generic monster taken from folklore, but know now what significance it has makes me put it in the same category of "hollywood appropriation" like Voodoo from Vodu the same went for Gordon and the jokes used on him, i genuinely laughed at those because i felt Linkara's intentions, but now I'm reflecting on this and yeah SA to ANYONE is not okay and kudos to Linkara for being the change he wants to see the world have. Thank you for 2023 Linkara, here's to 2024

[@Redshirt214]

I’m pretty sure that the TVTropes page for “face turn”was at one point called “heel face turn”, so that mistake is quite understandable.

[@FillmGeekOfDoom]

I think it still is.

[@ShinyGaara65]

It takes a good man (or person) to say he makes mistakes. It takes a great man to analyze his mistakes, even mistakes he may not agree with, and strive to be better for everyone. You are a MAN. Can't wait for the 20th anniversary one day. Good luck on your 52-episode endeavor, Linkaraa!

[@rasengonshuriken]

in regards to the algonquin spirit, it's an easy to understand mistake if you didn't know. It shows up in a lot of places that one would not think it problematic. While Until Dawn probably made it very popular, it predates that. There is the Marvel Character as you mentioned, but there is also a digimon named after it and i know it is a creature in DnD. Hell, the Supernatural series had it in their second episode. it's one of those things you just gotta take on the chin and try and be better. If you ever do need to discuss the Marvel character, my friends and I just use the fast food chain of Wendy's to convey what we mean.

[@jordanhunter3375]

Wendy Man!

[@gracekim1998]

Say would the depiction of them in MLP be semi-accurate with the winter thing?

[@valen9835]

Now that's gonna make the in development Until Dawn film adaption hella awkward as people unknowingly say a word they shouldn't be saying. Then again the devs should've probably known better when they made the game.

[@seekerstheshy3842]

In a world if cobstant botched apologies youre the one light reminding me people can actually be genuine

[@wanderingstorytellerj7758]

The Heel/Face thing is an easy enough mistake to make. Just remember that Heel means evil, Face means good, and turn means to change between the two. For example: "Fans were pissed when Cassandra Cain had a Face-Heel Turn and wanted to make Robin evil too." Example 2: "The Swordsman started as a villain, then made a Heel-Face Turn and joined The Avengers." Maybe Song of Orpheus could just be a short (10 minute) filler review? It's not terribly long and would help you get closer to your resolution. If nothing else, it's good "falling behind, need content while I work on another review" fodder. Whatever the case, best of luck in 2024.

[@stevenstice6683]

I don't know if it's snowing real hard up north yet or not, but Linkara, if you hear someone say "can you help me with this?", ignore it.

[@LARKXHIN]

For some reaon "i confused Bermuda with the Bahamas" made me laugh so hard.

[@Rabbitlord108]

Then again The Bahamas (Or at least part of it) is in the area of the Bermuda Triangle urban legend. Yes I know I'm grasping at straws. But still.

[@theweysermanisback5205]

Reason

[@add8402]

For mistake 9, technically the terms would be a Heel-Face Turn or a Face-Heel Turn, with the ordering of the name referring to when a character goes from the first state to the second. You were being corrected on the shortened slang terms, as opposed to the full versions, so the confusion is at least more justified in that case.

[@aarengabriel8106]

Thank you for acknowledging mistake #2. I was one of the ones who pointed it out.

[@thefez-cat]

And behind Linkara you can see something interesting: a lil' red truck, haulin' a Christmas tree!

[@Hey-Its-Dingo]

If you reach your video output goal, you can call 2024 your "New 52" lmao

[@koneheadcokehead4981]

I just wanna thank Linkara for all the great work he gives us because he honestly gave me a better way to read and understand comics

[@earth_5496]

These year end lists are genuinely not just one of my favorite of your traditions on the show, but something I look forward to as part of my New Year, something to wipe the slate clean and dive into another trip round the sun. Thanks for helping me gear up for what's ahead- I know I'm not the only one whose life really is richer for all your hard work. P.S. Your 52 episodes goal is admirable and by all means go for it, but please remember not to pursue that or anything else at the expense of your physical or mental well-being- I'd rather have one at4w episode per year and know that you're doing well than have any number of episodes that you needed to go through hell to produce.

[@ThomasFishwick]

Quick one about item 6 (I know but hold on a second) A lot of the "Masterplan" was Cartmell's notes on the subject. It's kinda important as a writer to have the answers to mysteries. Even if you don't intend for those mysteries ever really be answered publicly. It helps with consistency and keeps the "world"of the story whole. This is the big problem with the JJ Abrams "Mystery Box" concept. Abrams doesn't care what's in the box, so when other writers aren't given the outline they have to make it up themselves and thus we get confusing messes were plot points just vanish. the thing with the Masterplan was it was the great unfinished work. It was interesting, had been woven into more or less two seasons at that point and was the big mystery behind so much. Fans lashed on to it like a life raft during the wilderness years until it built up it's own mythology

[@DalekTheSupreme]

I was expecting the Hound/Huffer confusion from the Transformers retrospective to make the list (although it led to a hilarious running gag in those videos), but honestly good on you for acknowledging more serious mistakes and off color jokes. You're a good man, Linkara. There's a reason why people still enjoy your videos and keep coming back to you after sixteen years.

[@the999mann]

Hate to tell you thins Linkara, but people are already nostalgic for old KZbin videos.

[@SLagonia]

"That I'm making less mistakes overall..." Fewer. The word is fewer. I just found that funny, don't take it personally.

[@Pikachu2Ash]

Watch it's gonna be an honorable mention in a future video :)

[@bauuhmasquerade459]

As someone who can admit their mistakes and even goes out of their way to make sure they don't happen again you have my respect and as an on and off viewer for the last decade I hope your 2024 is phenomenal

[@EB-cz4te]

Linkara, I've floated your videos on occasion in the last several years and recently I've been converting them to mp3s so that I can listen to them off a USB on the work truck's radio. It's been phenomenally entertaining to listen to your fun reviews/rants about all kinds of stories and franchises even though there is a lot of visual gags and scans to poke fun or praise art it helps keep me awake and alert on some otherwise boring long distance drives which can give me road fatigue, eventually when I have more time I look back at key moments about some artistic decisions you point out and have a good laugh -much more entertaining than the limited selection of radio stations and hearing the same songs on repeat. Keep at it you magnificent bastard.

[@koneheadcokehead4981]

I'm honestly really interested to see what the new storyline has to offer and what new interesting ideas you will add to it

[@benwasserman8223]

Another year, another AT4W season. Looking forward to the new lineup of bad comics… and whatever story you’re FINALLY allowed to make post-contest.

[@weirdotzero7065]

Funny thing about the Shadow Androids, they actually originated in that "one Sonic game but with guns". It got very weird. There's retcon, aliens, death, destruction, mild swearing, OW THE EDGE, and robot clones. To quote Peter Parker, "This is starting to sound like a bad comic book plot".

[@YourUncleBenis]

Um, ACHTUALLY, the Shadow Androids originated in Sonic Heroes, but only received that name in Shadow, along with their appearance for the Tangle and Whisper comic(which comes from the multiplayer mode).

[@Specsboy1999]

They were also in the ending of Sonic Heroes with Team Dark's ending (or they might have just been clones), probably as set up for the "Is this the real Shadow?" that was part of Shadow the Hedgehog, which conscidently has its neutral endings reveal that the Shadow we play as is one of the androids.

[@battlion507]

@@Specsboy1999 Sheesh, no wonder Shadow the Hedgehog was playing fast and loose with the """"canon"""" of that era of Sonic a la Sonic Adventure to Sonic 2006.

[@skibot9974]

@@Specsboy1999even more bizarre is that the question of if the Shadow we’re following is the original or an Android duplicate is only directly answered by a single line during the final boss fight. Said line won’t trigger unless you prolong the fight for 9 minutes, and most players will beat the boss in under 6.

[@geoffreyrichards6079]

It’s a real pity the game’s infamy has eclipsed the actual character’s heartbreaking introductory story. Hopefully, the 3rd live-action Sonic film will correct that perception of the character and provide unfamiliar audiences with something closer to home.

[@CaptainEnglehorn]

You did review a comic with the Marvel coop of the Algonquin culture. Years ago when you covered Wolverines first appearance in Secret Origins month. It was an issue of Incredible Hulk.

[@koneheadcokehead4981]

To see you keep talking about new stuff and finding new ways to talk about things really makes me happy to see AT4W really expand the way it has

[@tokubrony9447]

For your Number 2 Mistake, I did not know it was taboo to even say the name of the creature or spirit of Native American folklore. However, I can see it as a cautionary tale about losing humanity and becoming something inhuman. I think the video game Until Dawn did that kind of story with the creatures, but I could be wrong.

[@jordanhunter3375]

They did, though these creatures resembled and acted more like bullet- and cold-proof zombies, that apparently have the gift of vocal mimicry

[@JoeChillton]

Until Dawn is the greatest example of inhumanity regarding this Wendigo trope.

[@geoffreyrichards6079]

Isn’t it only taboo to say its name if you’re in the tribe or follow its set of beliefs? How else can it even be discussed or addressed from a respectful manner?

[@FillmGeekOfDoom]

@@geoffreyrichards6079 Yeah, I'd like to know as well. I never heard of it being considered a word people shouldn't say anymore. This isn't like the word "Gypsy" being no longer used due to it being recently considered a slur for Romani people. I don't recall Until Dawn ever being under fire for using the word "wendigo" and I can't find anything on that matter, so I think Linkara may have gotten his facts wrong or is missing some details.

[@troin3925]

@@geoffreyrichards6079 It's also taboo to say Skinwalker in Navajo tribes because it's supposed to attract the creature.

[@ToHoldNothing]

Also, I wonder if MLP FIM intentionally changed the name of a creature in an episode that was sort of Christmasy because it would create that kind of problem. Then again, they have an excuse, the MLP universe tends to make cartoony changes to various things: parasprites, auroricorns in G5, along with bunnicorns, pegasnails, etc

[@Marmike91]

Hey Linkara. I totally understand how schedule slippages are a massive pain and I'm glad you are slowly but surely working it all out! I've really enjoyed the videos that have come out and whenever I am doing exercises or grinding in video games, I always play your old videos in the background. I learn a lot from watching your vids especially in the world of comics. I got into Star Trek because of your vids AND am currently binge watching every single episode of Doctor Who because of your vids. (And yes, I am currently watching the Classic Series before I go onto the reboot, I'm actually really enjoying it too). And you (along with a few others) got into doing reviews of my own. Out of all the reviewers that started off on that particular website, your vids are the one I watch more often! I can't wait to see more vids in the future and I hope 2024 is a good year of you too! :D

[@jonothanthrace1530]

I for one appreciate your commitment to owning and learning from your mistakes and hope you continue to do so until you make it into The Good Place. Also, don't push yourself too hard to make a video every week, I don't think anyone wants you to get burned out.

[@ianr.navahuber2195]

19:37 Imagine someone making a compilation of "Linkara VS Geography"

[@gamer29591]

I actually don't mind the delays HOPR is taking because I understand ATFW is your top priority. I don't mind waiting well until 2030 when you get caught up.

[@jamesatkinsonja]

I've been watching HOPR since the beginning so I agree-I'm in it for the long term!

[@crimsondragon1690]

Hey Linkara, in regards to you pushing your merch lately, I'd just like to say I got my robomat in the mail today. It's adorable and I love it. 😁

[@AT4W]

Glad you like it!

[@gamestation2690]

@@AT4W Are you preparing the Contest of Champions Part 2 storyline compilation video?

[@daelen.cclark]

While I liked the regeneration in the 3rd DW special, I completely get why it rubbed people the wrong way. Ncuti Gatwa’s still gonna be a great doctor, I can tell!

[@lonewolf6884]

Im already loving him

[@plantainsame2049]

If I understand it correctly. Time has gone wibbly, and 15 showed up. Early fourteen will still be coming fifteen, but he'll be sent back and split off fourteen faction paradox gives me Less of a headache that's a lie But still

[@Firefaerie81]

I really respect the commitment to rounding up mistakes and issuing corrections as publicly as possible. I feel like a lot of KZbinrs would benefit from making mistake roundup videos like this, maybe there’d be less people holding grudges about flubbed facts or insufficient research.

[@Pikachu2Ash]

Doug Walker used to do them too but stopped when he got tired of the annoying character he played "Douchy Mc Nitpick"

[@aaronwilder2775]

I love your channel Linkara, I'm a relatively new subscriber but I really enjoy your stuff and to see you admit mistakes and further educate yourself to make the content better is so admirable :)

[@mattwo7]

27:56 Huh that line didn't exactly age the greatest though considering what The "Spy Master" did with the Cybermen...

[@koneheadcokehead4981]

Somehow wishing for a "good year" is harder than deciding what's your favorite rock

[@gerarddominus35]

If geography is your weakness, you truly never will know where in the world Carmen SanDiego is

[@alexanderstrauch5531]

My favorite part of the show is Linkara vs Geography, but don't feel bad about getting Bermuda and The Bahamas mixed up, my dyslexic ass always mixes them up too.

[@romanov3937]

Never knew speaking the name of Wendigo was a taboo in native american communities, always though it was just a regular folklore monster, like my country's many folklore creatures.

[@majingojira]

It's not. No, really, it's not. People are confusing the Wendigo lore with the lore of a Southwestern shapeshifter that many Europeans flatten into a form of werewolf. Wendigo (or Windigo, which is closer to the Algonquin saying of it) doesn't have the taboo associated with saying it. You'll see things online saying them, but none come from native sources. And who are you going to listen to, some white dude, or the culture involved? Don't ask me, I'm just a white dude, go verify this yourself! But, Emily Zarcha of the channel Monstrum/PBS never brought it up in her analysis, and she's a professional folklorist.

[@DoomMomDot]

I did as well, especially after Marvel made a character called that.

[@mightyfilm]

@@DoomMomDot And if you play the old X-Men arcade game, the character WON'T SHUT UP with that word.

[@romanov3937]

@@majingojira Ok thanks for the heads up.

[@Razorgeist]

Yeah I was about to say the same thing. I know that Skinwalkers have this taboo but Im pretty sure Wendigos dont. Granted I could be wrong.

[@GrandArchPriestOfTheAlgorithm]

Don't give into despair, you turn into a witch.

[@Pikachu2Ash]

Ya dude you might wanna look up where the term witch came from, just saying....

[@adamo6250]

One of the Mistakes that you did make was in Batman & Robin the comic adaptation, and Batman Odyssey # 2, both having to do with C02 tanks and the Predator. We all know that in the first Predetor movie, that Dutch was able to hide from the Predators Inferred vision because he was covered in mud. in reality however? the human body can heat mud up really fast once it makes skin to skin contact, and there was even a kinda sorta meta call back to this in the third Batman & Predator Crossover where in the Predators broke into Mister Freeze's hidehout, killed his henchmen, and he was out of his suit, but the Predators couldn't see him because of his mutated body. This is important to remember, because you made a predator joke in the Batman & Robin comic review, in reality, if you spray someone with cold chemicals like C02 (Which you shouldn't because it's dangerous), the human body can instantly heat up and slowly begins melting the patches of cold from the C02. Interesting fact about inferred detection, it's not impossible to trick, however, means like mud smearing, or normal camoflouge that one might assume, when in fact it's very tricky, especailly when a single change in inferred detection can easily set an alarm off right away. nuff said

[@christopherwebster6354]

"My New Year's resolution: 52 episodes in 2024." Here lies Lewis Lovhaug. Comic book reviewer who worked himself to death.

[@mightyfilm]

[snickers] You bent your Wookiees.

[@BrandonCroker]

Lewis, I appreciate you and your wit and genuine awesomeness.

[@DoomMomDot]

you're far from the only one to treat sexual assault on a man as less serious than one on a woman. at least you have the guts and conscience enough to recognize and apologize.

[@Pikachu2Ash]

It's just a poorly ingrained belief still held in societies Like American or Canada.

[@kitestar]

Congrats on F I N A L L Y winning the contest against a suspiciously familiar sounding bandit chief, hopefully ‘24 is the year your schedule is kept even to balance out things.

[@iamawesome4026]

I really wish that batman: the killing joke never happened at all. Can’t wait to see you making more videos

[@jamesmoyner7499]

I always love these videos looking over past mistakes and the previous year as a whole. Also do you plan on being on another episode of Escape From Vault Disney? You gave a lot of great remarks on the last two you were on.

[@Rabbitlord108]

Is Escape From Vault Disney a podcast?

[@jamesmoyner7499]

@@Rabbitlord108 Yes, hosted and created by Tony Goldmark. Lewis was on the episodes: The Apple Dumpling Gang Rides Again and with Viga covering the film Luca.

[@skyslasher2297]

17:36 is that a double mistake cause Fin Fan Fume was also a marvel character so a fusion of the two wouldn’t have made sense when amalgam was marvel+dc for everyone else.

[@zexalbrony4799]

Thanks for the shout-out, I think. I think I'm the one who mentioned the episode count, where in the Doctor Who: The Klepton Parasites review, I commented that with that episode we had 35 reviews and with only 4 weeks left in the year we would only have four reviews left equally 39, even though I would argue that because this Top 15 came out in 2024 that technically we only had 38 but that's neither here nor there. But thanks for the possible shout-out, my obsessiveness when it comes to numbers sometimes has finally gotten me recognized. :) Normally this is the part of the comment where I would list all the reviews this year and say which ones I liked and which ones I didn't like I did for the last few end-of-the-year top 15s, but honestly, I just don't feel like doing that. I usually do that to prove and show my loyalty that I did watch everything, except Late Night Double Feature really not a fan of that, but 2023 was just draining, and as much as I love you're content, Linkara, because it is really good, the constant schedule slippages really got to me. However, that's mainly due to who I am as a person, it's got nothing to do with you, Linkara, you're still awesome. I like to plan everything out so I can maximize my day, doesn't always work out for me, lol, but I do try. And I'm also kind of lonely, which is why I comment so much because I hope I have something interesting to say that will start some kind of conversation I can be a part of. So when a new review drops on a day I'm not prepared for it can be taxing because I'm compelled to watch it as soon as possible and come up with a comment to try and be a part of the coversation as soon as possible before I get buried by the sea of comments because you are very popular, Linkara, because like I said you are awesome and deserve it. And sometimes this causes me to fall behind, especially if it's a long video as I like to finish the whole thing and not comment before I have the entire context of what's going on, all the other channels I'm subscribed to and other things I have to do that come out on time and then I'm rushing to do everything I set out to do that day. I am a man of constancy and habit and that can be a double-edged sword sometimes for me. However, I don't want to just focus on the negatives, as such, I will at least mention a few things I really liked about you're content this year; loved the US 1 and DC Challenge stuff like always, and the Sandman was a cool series and a nice retrospective, I'm not a big horror fan but this year's Ring reviews were really great and awesome, as was the Spider-man one, I loved the conclusion of the contest of Champions like I said in my comment on that video, it was really great and epic, and lastly, while I'm not a super big Doctore Who fan, having only seen a few episodes featuring the 9th, 10th, and 11th Doctors, as well as a few clips from older and newer stuff after those three here and there, I have to say Remberance of the Delks from what I saw in you're review seems like a really great episode and you're review was great. So despite the tribulations of this year, thank you for all the fun videos this year Linkara, I'm looking forward to this year's worth of videos, even if we don't hit 52 I'm sure it will be fun because we've got Event Comics Month and I love that month, and I'm also hopeful that the Christmas stuff and Secret Origins month don't lose stuff this year because I love those things so I'm hopeful depending on how the weeks pan out that we get three or four reviews for each. Also, if you need any suggestions for the next Mistakes video, I've got one I've been holding onto for years, I've said it before I'll say it again, in the Rogue One Review, you miss used the term god mode as what Vader did in the hallway scene is not godly, even discounting all the extra stuff like TV shows, as seen in the Prequel Movies and even Return of the Jedi with Luke fighting Jabba's henchmen, a decently skilled Jedi or Sith should be able to take down like 10 or 20 dudes without to much difficulty, especially in a closed area where they have little maneuverability. So it's not god mode, it's just a regular Tuesday for someone of Vader's skill level that he should be capable of. Man look at me, I didn't talk about all the reviews this year to save time and trim the comment's length, and I still made this a pretty long comment. I guess I'm just as much of a windbag as you, Linkara, but that's another reason I like you so much. Thanks again for this year's worth of videos, they weren't all winners, but they were still fun.

[@VerdantRange]

From what I've heard, The Killing Joke was always meant to be canon. There was a book released about a month before The Killing Joke called Batgirl Special #1 which had the story "The Last Batgirl Story" and supposedly, according to the writer of that book, Barbara Kesel, she was commissioned to write this book to specifically to allow for the status quo changes that The Killing Joke would cause. Plus, since the first book to reference what happened in The Killing Joke after it happened was in Batman #426, AKA, the first part of A Death in the Family, which came out only five months later, this does seem to support the idea it was always meant to be canon and not an Elseworlds sort of thing.

[@Zombiekilleryamato]

I think people where making an excuse for the story lack of care

[@IzzysIssues]

Cheers to another great year and for introspection!

[@vcom741]

6:56 SPOILERS FOR THE GIGGLE READ MORE BELOW (I think this still works for spoilers) ... ... ... ... ... I like the idea behind it - getting a future regeneration of the Doctor to team up with a "current" one, but I think the episode needed to break the vagueness and say: "Yeah, 14th Doctor will regenerate again later, and become 15 properly, right when the bi-generation happens", but I also get it was confusing. As is: "Time Lords doing therapy out of order" is fine.

[@PFiction24]

Linkara I’ve been a fan since just after you started, and I hope you can go on forever. LONG LIVE THE TRILBY!

[@Flintandsteel1625]

Oh, we're already in an era where people are nostalgic for early KZbin content. For example - Ray Narvaez Jr. (a former member of Achievement Hunter/Rooster Teeth) now regularly does collab streams with vtuber Chibidoki, who grew up with Ray's content on Achievement Hunter (she refers to AH as her boy band growing up). Chibi will constantly make references to Ray's days at AH, despite that phase of his life being over nearly a decade ago.

[@mattwo7]

23:38 Oh these aren't even really the same thing as Metal Sonic who exists as a rival and evil equal. They were more of a character arc device. Part of a character arc that started in Sonic Heroes where Rouge sneaks into a warehouse owned by Eggman where finds an amensaic Shadow (after falling from orbit in the aftermath of the events of Sonic Adventure 2 while ignoring the events of Sonic Battle even though Ian Flynn says every game is canon) in a healing tank and suspects that Shadow is a robot. Then in Shadow's solo game, Shadow starts to question his own identity, even questioning if he's an android himself.

[@gota7738]

Aiming for the stars can be more inspiring than aiming for the treetops, so bigger goals are sometimes better, but I hope you know that doing 39 over last year's 36 is a step ahead even in and of itself. It sounds like you ARE doing a great job worth being proud of. Also I really appreciate these mistake videos, it does a lot to build good faith.

[@JKPancake]

A quote I think about a lot is "You did everything you could and still failed" it can be seen as negative but also I find it a good way not to beat myself up. Sometimes stuff just doesn't work out, I do hope you can get back on schedule but if life gets in the way then it happens. I mean hell I follow creators who release like once every two years I'm not going to get mad if you only do 40 something episodes instead of 52

[@gentlemanlygeeky4088]

“I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.” Thomas A. Edison

[@the4thwallkid132]

6:08 I think I figured out what the guardians of the universe's catchphrases should be WE SHOULD DO SOMETHING! SHOULD WE DO SOMETHING? WE SHOULD DO SOMETHING! SHOULD WE DO SOMETHING? WE SHOULD DO SOMETHING! SHOULD WE DO SOMETHING? WE SHOULD DO SOMETHING! SHOULD WE DO SOMETHING? WE SHOULD DO SOMETHING! SHOULD WE DO SOMETHING? WE SHOULD DO SOMETHING! SHOULD WE DO SOMETHING? WE SHOULD DO SOMETHING! SHOULD WE DO SOMETHING?

[@FlyBoy972]

I can say that 2023 was the year that I got back into Atop the Fourth Wall after several years as a lapsed fan. It was never anything to do with the content, I had just fallen off of keeping up with the videos and never found myself coming back around until the Man of Steel review popped up in my feed back in February. And I've been catching up since then. As someone who was a fan from the old days on that one website when I was a dorky high schooler, it was great seeing how much you've progressed while still being the snarky geek that I was a fan of. So thank you, Linkara, for still being around and continuing to make me laugh through the cringe of bad comics (and find even more to enjoy in the great ones). I can't wait to see what you have in store for 2024!

[@jonathanbarr9764]

This is a question anybody can answer not just Linkara but did he review the issue of the Incredible Hulk where Wolverine made his first appearance? I ask because the character he mentioned in his number 2 spot is also in that comic. From the little I've read about those spirits the Marvel version comes from breaking the taboo of cannibalism, turning whoever commits the act of eating someone else into the character.

[@mattwo7]

14:55 As a Mathew and not a Matthew even though I was named after the Gospel of Matthew, I agree that the extra letters that add nothing are dumb. Which as an American also includes the UKonian and Australian use of the letter "u" as well as the entire existence of dustbin letters like c, g, q and x.

[@adamo6250]

Oh, and One more mistake you made was in A Funeral for a Octopus. in that you said it was difficult for Betty Brant attending Doctor Octopus funeral because he was involved in her "cousins" murder, when really it was her brother. What happened their was, her brother (Bennett) had gotten mixed with some gangsters who he owned money too and it was too help pay for his mom's medical bills, the gangster he owed money too asked a favor from Doc Ock. To make a long story short, Spider-Man, Doc Ock and the Gangster got into a fight when Spidey was attempting to save Betty and Bennett, and Bennett was seemingly killed in the melee. He didn't actually, it was retcon later that he was chosen to be the next crime master, but that didn't end up going anywhere and then he was Jack O'Lantern for a brief time, and then some for confusing things happen, and he's dead again now, only this time Betty shot him. oh! Spoilers (Like it matters)

[@Valdagast]

The Killing Joke "actions taken by the villain are assumed to be bad" reminds me of the snl skit where Dwayne Johnson builds a (TW) "child-molesting robot" and all the other evil geniuses are just horrified.

[@larrychilders6599]

35:25 I did not know that about the creature, and perhaps when you have to refer to THAT marvel character, perhaps use one of its likely other names , if it doesn't have one, call them the Night Stalker ( like what Fallout 76 calls the unique version of said creature)

[@tokubrony9447]

Night Stalker sounds like a great substitute name for those creatures if we can't say the real name. And yes, it's also a great supervillain name.

[@larrychilders6599]

@tokubrony9447 I can not take credit for this idea, thank Bethesda Softworks's creature designers

[@JoeChillton]

@@tokubrony9447 Wendigo, just say it

[@larrychilders6599]

​He explained why that can't happen