Best thing I've heard in a long time; "learn to play inside the music, rather than outside of the music".
@benjaminaustnesnarum39005 жыл бұрын
I loved "I tried to do the VanHalen thing, and I really wasn't that guy, but what I was good at was playing the guitar for singers and songwriters and artists." A lot of beginner guitarists approach the instrument as someone else; like a VanHalen; only to find out that it wasn't for them, making them feel like they're not gonna make it, or ever be good enough. But you just gotta find your style, and practice a lot and you'll make it!
@stinemusiclessons5 жыл бұрын
Tim is just as cool in person as he is in video. Super inspiring guy :-)
@1970borntorun4 жыл бұрын
That's very well-said Benjamin! As a kid who grew up in the early 80s, of course, I worshipped, Randy Rhoads, Michael Schenker and Eddie Van Halen ( and still do at age 50! lol ). But to your point, one eventually has to warm to the idea of being the best Player YOU are and finding your own unique voice. also, being technically proficient is great, as long as your PLAY for the SONG, like Randy did for example. Peace ♫
@00xanawolf006 жыл бұрын
MIND BLOWN! This is the video I've been searching for: two of the nicest, most modest (yet AWESOME) players and teachers on the block just dropping absolute gold knowledge every few seconds! As a guitarist who made the commitment to go beyond playing the pentatonic, everything they said was so incredibly important. Let me boil down the video's treasure trove of advice into one simple sentence: If you want to be an incredible lead player, you have to go back and put that time into learning all the chords and chord shapes up and down the neck! That's the key to playing with authority, and also the key to being a melodic player! It sounds crazy and counterintuitive, but it's true! If you want to play lead, you must also learn to be a master rhythm player!
@stinemusiclessons6 жыл бұрын
absolutely true!
@7Earthsky4 жыл бұрын
When you say learn all the chord shapes, do you mean put in the time to get good at the CAGED shapes?
@drsmith45823 жыл бұрын
@7Earthsky It looks like you didn’t get an answer. Learning CAGED is helpful. Also, knowing the chord changes in any song you are playing lead on, will help. All you really need is a working knowledge of the triads. This helps when you improvise over chord progressions to see the most important notes to play as you play lead licks and not just run scales all over the place. If you don’t learn the changes in a song before trying to play a lead over it, your train will eventually derail.
@isaiahmarquez9717 Жыл бұрын
@@7Earthsky I still don’t know what CAGED is (I’m lying….go with it). Some people love it. I do not. I don’t need it. You don’t NEED it but it might work for you.
@rickfromthecape31356 жыл бұрын
"Like stones in a river that you can jump on..." What a great analogy! It's like someone smacked me upside the head! Thanks for the lesson Steve
@stinemusiclessons6 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome!
@wooliegeek6 жыл бұрын
Ahhh Tim, both musically and pedagogically a master. Thank you for hosting him and tee’ing up such a great topic.
@MarkSmith-dk4fd3 жыл бұрын
A little correction ...if your playing a Bmi and a GMA you can be in GMA key you can just play G Maj or B min can be the 2 min. chord in the key of Amaj.call it Dorian if you like mode names on each chord such as Bmin phrygian and G Maj.is Ionian , But B natural min belongs to the Key of Dmaj. ....I think that's what Tim ment to say 🎸🎶🎶🎶✌
@imannonymous77076 жыл бұрын
And to my ear....these two men are great lead players.....cheerz boyz
@stinemusiclessons6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@BryanBowser4 жыл бұрын
It's cool to see so many KZbin guitar people pairing up. Tim Pierce stands out however. It's easy to see why he's done so much session work - he's so on top of what he does but what also strikes me about this guy is his ability to clearly communicate what he's doing.
@WhippJunior6 жыл бұрын
Awesome to see these guys together. Two of youtubes best!
@stinemusiclessons6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! A lot more coming soon :-)
@marksmedeldds54816 жыл бұрын
Hello Steve This is what my teacher is trying to teach me now. Several light switches were just turned on. You and Tim are amazing teachers. Thank you for all the instructional support.
@stinemusiclessons6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, Mark!
@yongchaozhao14372 жыл бұрын
Concept is very important!
@pembertonwardiii44086 жыл бұрын
Tim Always Blows My Mind with his playing--far above my ability to follow him as one should. I think You Both Rock and I appreciate your teaching style and the knowledge that even someone as proficient as you is still on the upswing in learning. I love this instrument and am blessed daily to enjoy playing it. Thanks Steve for all you do and Stay Well.
@stinemusiclessons6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Pemberton!
@mikeflight96 жыл бұрын
Hi Steve. Thank you for having Tim on. He is amazing, and of course so are you. Tim made so much sense to me about the chord change and the note changes for the lead. Now I can see why you keep telling us to learn the notes on each string up and down the fretboard. 👍👍
@stinemusiclessons6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, he's an amazing player and an even more amazing person, and this is a HUGE KEY to making your solos sound much more authentic.
@mikeflight96 жыл бұрын
I have been subscribed to Tim's channel for a while, and "YES" he is an amazingly nice person. My only real teacher on KZbin is "YOU" Steve because as far I can see, and I have checked many others, you are the best, and an incredibly nice person too. Cheers.👍
@Coffeehousesantos5 жыл бұрын
Hi Steve,for me i went throught your mastercourses and practicing all the scale and modes.I been putting my 10000 hrs and i snoticed that it all starts flowing and meshing naturally
@Thebluesguy5 жыл бұрын
Steve and Tim in one video lesson.. thats just awesome 😄 thx
@NickGranville6 жыл бұрын
Tim is a legend. A big influence on me and anyone else who does session work. Thanks for this.
@stinemusiclessons6 жыл бұрын
Hi Nick. He sure is, and such an amazing guy on a personal level as well.
@raysmith75435 жыл бұрын
I watch many instructional videos to improve my playing. Lately I have been watching your videos almost exclusively. This video, for me personally, shows why that is the case. Awesome stuff Steve, many thanks.
@bananamermaid60005 жыл бұрын
I had this idea that guitar music was all about cocky shredders, but you guys changed my mind. Thanks for the great content!
@sagig726 жыл бұрын
Best lesson I've seen on how to solo "in the music" rather than "over the music". So beautifully put! Great lesson. You and Tim shall certainly do more lessons together.
@stinemusiclessons6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@rajdify5 жыл бұрын
This sums up the complexity of guitar soloing its so simple now, thanks steve and tim really appreciate your effort.
@stinemusiclessons5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Much more coming soon!
@walaka51506 жыл бұрын
Steve you already have great insight to share but by bringing in the "mighty" Tim Pierce you've just upped your game 10-fold brother! A great guy and full on professional!!! Kudo's to you and looking forward to the continued collaborations!! Very cool!!!
@stinemusiclessons6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!!!
@edt96663 жыл бұрын
I found this after seeing you on Tim's channel.....what a joy to watch both of you discuss things. Subscribed!
@BluesLicks1016 жыл бұрын
This video was about as perfect an instruction for the young & intermediate guitarist as it gets, congratulations to you both on your great work!
@stinemusiclessons6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@DrSMILE-xc1dp5 жыл бұрын
BIGGEST THANK YOU FOR THIS LESSONS ! NO WORD TO DESCRIBE HOW MUCH I THANKS YOU GUYS FOR MAKING THIS GREAT GUITAR LESSON.
@slowpoke78886 жыл бұрын
It's so great to see you two get together. I have checked out dozens of guitar tutors on KZbin but I keep coming back to your good self, Tim Pierce and Brett Papa. All three outstanding teachers and gentlemen. Thanks Steve. BTW I would love to see you do something with Brett Papa; it would complete the circle IMO.
@stinemusiclessons6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, Slowpoke! I will certainly be contacting Brett as well, we all run in the same circles, but I haven't had a chance to chat with him yet. Great player and teacher though!
@kevinmorris77224 жыл бұрын
Two of the best. So nice you've shared anything at all with us. Can't believe you share your thoughts and tech. Sure wish you two were in a band together. That would be awesome to drift off in the tune. Thanks. Y'all are the best.
@joekyleboston6 жыл бұрын
Steve, I am so glad you connected with Tim. If you and Tim could please continue to collaborate that would be huge for us! Please also find Rick Beato and Pebber Brown. Thanks.
@stinemusiclessons6 жыл бұрын
I sure will, Joseph!!
@funkfan17516 жыл бұрын
Love Tim Pierce's lessons and how well he plays to everything.
@stinemusiclessons6 жыл бұрын
He's awesome on so many levels!
@elderberry-hamster6 жыл бұрын
This was so great. To have both of you discussing all aspects of playing...just fantastic. Tim is legendary. Love it. More videos like this would be great. Thank you sir! 👍👍👍
@stinemusiclessons6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, Ross! Many more coming soon!
@CitizenCS6 жыл бұрын
Best 19:21 I have ever spent on KZbin.
@Gibfenez6 жыл бұрын
Steve, just found your channel, great info, super clear and right in my pocket as well, thanks for being here!
@Lopro943 жыл бұрын
Outstanding video. I'm at the right place, at the right time, and you guys are absolutely on point.
@dougsmith84302 жыл бұрын
LOVE THIS! Thank you Tim and Steve!
@tonyaxeman43813 жыл бұрын
I like Tim great guitarist . I really like his approach to the minor scales .
@sumanchowdhury61623 жыл бұрын
Great minds think alike!!
@patrickpirker16343 жыл бұрын
very, very helpful!
@eddysel10 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video tutorial. I watch both of yours video’s very very often and have learned a lot from you. Have bought also a lot of your lessons. I will practice this approach more from now on, in stead of the “in box thinking” approach. I was wondering what Tim would play if it a repeating chord progression.
@johnpalmer97745 жыл бұрын
Steve is the greatest teacher ever
@stinemusiclessons5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, John.
@romainbertrand2534 жыл бұрын
Great video. Tim is really awesome. Thanks Steve !
@shanehen2 жыл бұрын
Studying jazz and how to play over those changes will take your playing to the ultimate level. Then you’ll know how to sub chords and how to play inside and outside the harmony.
@srwaite76 жыл бұрын
Playing over vs inside. Really great way to put it. 👌🏻
@stinemusiclessons6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's the way I always thought of it, and felt so much better when I started learning to listen and respond to the music, instead of just "playing"...not that I don't still do that as well here and there :-)
@MrDoneboy5 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys, you are both my favs to learn from!
@charleschad10045 жыл бұрын
I think what Tim present in this video is how petrucci make his solo. That sound amazing, playing not too focus or root chord to the scale. I've learn something new! Thank U steve!
@nameerased5 жыл бұрын
Great video. Really enjoyed it. Here’s my two cents - from a guy with zero LA sessions to his credit! :) I like to take advantage of all the different colors available, so I don’t run out of ideas before four bars are up. For example, I might go from natural minor over Am to dorian over the D(7) to harmonic minor over the F. That way, you could build cool lines that use an F against the Am, an F# against the D(7) and a G# (briefly) against the F. Passing tones also add some nice transitional color. For instance, a chromatic line from C to C# to D as you go from Am to D. Depending on how you do this, you can also imply the secondary dominant (A7) to set up the change to D. One color tone I really like is the B or b5 against the F. To my ear, it’s pretty sweet and doesn’t really need to be in passing since it’s in the scale either way. Of course, you could also briefly use the 4th of F (Bb) which is not in the scale and resolve it to A. Tim mentions using Am pentatonic against the F. That idea works particularly well for a jazzy sound since it leaves out the root and offers more of a major 7th sound. It all depends on the style of music you’re playing. A great idea for jazzy pop, but perhaps not as strong for country, etc. It’s a simple progression, but the possibilities seem to go on and on. Especially if you consider extensions and substitutions.
@jepsmusicjp3 жыл бұрын
So... Triads and Pentatonic scales. Noice, noise, noys. Love it
@AaronAJaeger6 жыл бұрын
As I’m watching this I looked at my bookshelf of music books and lo and behold, I have a book called The Nashville Pattern for Guitar. Sweet! Time to dig in!
@stinemusiclessons6 жыл бұрын
Go for it!
@stinemusiclessons6 жыл бұрын
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@hilariovargas86826 жыл бұрын
Thank you Tim...very cool...
@rebelquadronfpv10655 жыл бұрын
D for DAIM!! Great video.
@davidlegalley11615 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this session Steve! I liked the options available, especially the arpeggio sounding of the chords. Now to get to seeing these notes, shapes and keys - fluidly - up - down and across the guitar finger board 🤔. Thank you 👍🏽👍🏽.
@stinemusiclessons5 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it helped!
@maikay14036 жыл бұрын
Awesome lesson today Steve and Tim.
@stinemusiclessons6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@williamlee63584 жыл бұрын
Tim rocks
@Newbyrock236 жыл бұрын
OMG, you ANNNNND Tim in the same Vid????? WHAT HAVE I DONE TO BE SO FORTUNATE!? Steve your vids are spectacular, as is your education. Please keep it up!!!
@stinemusiclessons6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@straightshooter86626 жыл бұрын
Awesome stuff man love Mr Peirce and you to Steve my friend
@stinemusiclessons6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!!
@Craig_Fussell6 жыл бұрын
Great video guys! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge with us! ✌🏻🎸🙂
@stinemusiclessons6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Craig! I will let Tim know as well.
@vishyoutubevideos5 жыл бұрын
two of favorite guitar players/instructors doing a video together. what more can i guy ask for?
@headkickko6094 жыл бұрын
I was heavy into DreamTheater and Petrucci's wild speed etc. I even tryed to adopt his right hand position. But it just didn't work out for me. And although I am still drawn to that speed, I really like that funky, style of rock rhytm guitar like Nuno and Slash (in some cases). I've learned it's something that suits me better and fulfills me more than that shredding thing... Well some of those shred moves remain and they sure turn some heads...
@StaffordsStudio6 жыл бұрын
Good info i always tend to land on the 4th i consciously try to break out from that theory is key in my opinion to help creativity
@OU812Eddie3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Tim/Steve... I just had a 'A HA' moment !
@steveholmes64786 жыл бұрын
Great interview and information. I am a beginner and have been learning the pentatonic scales still working on those.
@stinemusiclessons6 жыл бұрын
That's great! Just take your time and REALLY absorb the ideas that you study. It's so easy to get "shiny object syndrome" as a guitar player and chase things all over the place. Stay focused and learn to make real-sounding music :-)
@einarabelc56 жыл бұрын
Check Tim's endorsed book. Music theory you can use. Especially if you're starting with it.
@lamper23 жыл бұрын
Who else got a chill at 9:17 ( " and you learn the modes")
@rojankc16196 жыл бұрын
This video is very very helpful. Thanks steve.😊
@stinemusiclessons6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Rojan!
@rojankc16196 жыл бұрын
😊😊
@cbeserra6 жыл бұрын
Awesome collaboration!
@stinemusiclessons6 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@shaunmcinnis19606 жыл бұрын
awesome Steve .God bless!
@stinemusiclessons6 жыл бұрын
And God Bless you as well!
@joev44836 жыл бұрын
Follow you both love you both!
@stinemusiclessons6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Joe!
@ritupabankotoky4 жыл бұрын
Great lesson.
@Guyinadifferentroom6 жыл бұрын
Hey dude, I worked at the same guitar store you did. Taught there I mean. I am not sure if we met or not. Just wanted to say congrats on the channel, I've browsed quite a bit to help me sorta explain things better. Keep it up sir.
@stinemusiclessons6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@jasonbone51216 жыл бұрын
2 great instructors!
@stinemusiclessons6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jason!
@Ujvi897215 жыл бұрын
Next level things. Thank you for the insight :D
@stinemusiclessons5 жыл бұрын
You are most welcome!
@pcaudio6 жыл бұрын
That was freaking awesome! Thanks!
@stinemusiclessons6 жыл бұрын
You are welcome, Paul :-)
@My1969chevelle4 жыл бұрын
That was great !
@MT10dan883 жыл бұрын
love to buy u a beer 🍺 Steve 👏🏻
@elvis_chen6 жыл бұрын
2 my favorite guitar KZbinrs!
@stinemusiclessons6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@sully61836 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve!
@stinemusiclessons6 жыл бұрын
You are welcome, Sullivan!
@FcaJettRamone6 жыл бұрын
Really interesting! Great video, great players.
@stinemusiclessons6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@AbbeyRoadkill15 жыл бұрын
Awesome sauce. Thx
@stinemusiclessons5 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@gizmokaiba6 жыл бұрын
Two kings!!
@stinemusiclessons6 жыл бұрын
Ha! You are too kind :-)
@rudai1236 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@stinemusiclessons6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@imannonymous77076 жыл бұрын
I love chord tone soloing....speed is secondary....to my ear
@autocrow6 жыл бұрын
Great video! Good questions. It just now dawned on me that if you can play over the chords in one key, you can play over the chords in any key as long as it was the same chord progression. Like Tim said, you just move what you are doing to another location on the neck. I can play over a slow blues 1,4,5. in any key, but if you change the progression to something else I'm lost. What would be a good second progression to practice playing chords over? Thanks for the vid! : )
@stinemusiclessons6 жыл бұрын
Well, if you are comfortable with a I IV V (G C D for example), just throw a new chord in there somewhere, like G Em C D, or G Bm C D, etc. and just work around that new chord and get comfortable.
@mtrondle3 жыл бұрын
Steve/Tim, at 4:53 into the video Tim stated he would play in the "key of G". He then starts a scale in the key of D and ends on the G note. Mixolydian? Please clarify.
@damonligaw52076 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@stinemusiclessons6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Damon!
@isaiahmarquez9717 Жыл бұрын
“Linear playing….not really interacting….like Tim just did.” 😂 I get what you meant….but it still sounded funny. Like just the smallest amount of shade. 😂
@ferdielopez16 жыл бұрын
I ove this jamming :-) sharing of ideas,,,,thanks folks
@stinemusiclessons6 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@isaaharel33955 жыл бұрын
Steve can you use the circle of firths And scale tones /chord tones with this I just got what he using the circle of firths this is scale tones I need to learn both scale tones and chord tones
@stinemusiclessons5 жыл бұрын
Honestly, you can use whatever gets you closer to making the music sound the way you want it to sound. Often, people use theory concepts, others use their ears and eyes, and I am just glad people are finding their way, regardless of what works for them.
@chadvillacorta80364 жыл бұрын
Tim said that Bm is the natural minor in the key of G. Isn't it in the key of D? Can someone explain it to me
@hermanmerman82474 жыл бұрын
Yep its d
@wretch13 жыл бұрын
For a moment I thought I was going mad! Phew!!
@victorformosa2285 жыл бұрын
How lucky we are that we have tutors like this to learn from, this was a master class. I have 11 triangle players giving it the thumbs down.
@Bradgilliswhammyman6 жыл бұрын
one of those scale runs he did was straight out of Rush. Very amazin g jamming lesson. Steve do you have recommendations on electric guitars for people relearning after a long time away from the guitar ? Was thinking about PRS guitars or ESP LTD guitar.
@stinemusiclessons6 жыл бұрын
Hi Ken! Honestly, any guitar that fits your hand and your body would be just fine. Nowadays, everyone makes decent guitars, it's just finding what works best for you (as opposed to the old days when some guitars were impossible to play as the strings were so far away from the neck).
@woodmum6 жыл бұрын
This is really amazing. One question if I may, the way Tim sees the chords and shapes, is that the caged system he uses?
@stinemusiclessons6 жыл бұрын
Yes, he visualizes the CAGED and arpeggios, which of course, overlap...
@woodmum6 жыл бұрын
@@stinemusiclessons Little pieces of the puzzle come together. Thank you Steve!
@stuffilike052 жыл бұрын
Amazing video but I Googled "National number system" and "Nashville number system" keeps coming up, which one is it??
@StaffordsStudio6 жыл бұрын
I land on the 7th more often not the 4th
@mrmres2 ай бұрын
12:56
@einarabelc56 жыл бұрын
Was all this just CAGED (I have Steve Maase's book, Tim's teacher) and it seems to fit. I haven't finished it, but is good althougha little confusing, especially in the homework sections because there are some minor mistakes and probably because I already had some theory I have to match to the book.
@7Earthsky4 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling it was yes.
@SRC10226 жыл бұрын
Hey Steve, great video and thank you for sharing! This was very helpful! Would you be able to make a video with how to apply this to metal? Example would be Master of Puppets where you are soloing over mainly palm muted E with some power chords thrown in. Do you just mainly play around E and ignore those other chords that may or may not be part of a key? Trying to figure out how to apply when you aren't playing over basic chords. Thanks!
@stinemusiclessons6 жыл бұрын
That might need to be a lesson! Please click on the "request a lesson" link in the description and add this question, and I will make a video on it, it's a great question Sean (but I need to elaborate more than I can type here)!
@SRC10226 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Just submitted
@ThunderFalcon3336 жыл бұрын
2 cool guitarist
@stinemusiclessons6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Dennis!
@satchrules101 Жыл бұрын
But if the chord is playing longer , u need more ideas on the same chord if it’s longer that 1 measure. Just wondering about this ?
@michaelcraig94492 жыл бұрын
Got free tabs?
@paddycautela6 жыл бұрын
B natural minor would be the key of D not G ........... B phrygian is in the key of G :)
@isaaharel33955 жыл бұрын
paddy cautela I know David Gilmore uses B minor and d major in comfortable numb
@ericschwartz99826 жыл бұрын
I find it confusing when someone says "pentatonic blues" @ 4:04. The blues scale is 6 notes, not five. It is the minor pentatonic scale with an added flat 5. Maybe I'm missing something.
@stinemusiclessons6 жыл бұрын
Usually when someone says "pentatonic" it's 5 notes. when they say "pentatonic blues" they are talking about adding that flatted 5th to the pentatonic, so you are correct, it's 6 notes. It's just a common term.