3 Tips on How to Solo Over Chord Changes | Tim Pierce | Steve Stine

[@blkleblanc]

Best thing I've heard in a long time; "learn to play inside the music, rather than outside of the music".

[@benjaminaustnesnarum3900]

I loved "I tried to do the VanHalen thing, and I really wasn't that guy, but what I was good at was playing the guitar for singers and songwriters and artists." A lot of beginner guitarists approach the instrument as someone else; like a VanHalen; only to find out that it wasn't for them, making them feel like they're not gonna make it, or ever be good enough. But you just gotta find your style, and practice a lot and you'll make it!

[@stinemusiclessons]

Tim is just as cool in person as he is in video. Super inspiring guy :-)

[@1970borntorun]

That's very well-said Benjamin! As a kid who grew up in the early 80s, of course, I worshipped, Randy Rhoads, Michael Schenker and Eddie Van Halen ( and still do at age 50! lol ). But to your point, one eventually has to warm to the idea of being the best Player YOU are and finding your own unique voice. also, being technically proficient is great, as long as your PLAY for the SONG, like Randy did for example. Peace ♫

[@00xanawolf00]

MIND BLOWN! This is the video I've been searching for: two of the nicest, most modest (yet AWESOME) players and teachers on the block just dropping absolute gold knowledge every few seconds! As a guitarist who made the commitment to go beyond playing the pentatonic, everything they said was so incredibly important. Let me boil down the video's treasure trove of advice into one simple sentence: If you want to be an incredible lead player, you have to go back and put that time into learning all the chords and chord shapes up and down the neck! That's the key to playing with authority, and also the key to being a melodic player! It sounds crazy and counterintuitive, but it's true! If you want to play lead, you must also learn to be a master rhythm player!

[@stinemusiclessons]

absolutely true!

[@7Earthsky]

When you say learn all the chord shapes, do you mean put in the time to get good at the CAGED shapes?

[@drsmith4582]

@7Earthsky It looks like you didn’t get an answer. Learning CAGED is helpful. Also, knowing the chord changes in any song you are playing lead on, will help. All you really need is a working knowledge of the triads. This helps when you improvise over chord progressions to see the most important notes to play as you play lead licks and not just run scales all over the place. If you don’t learn the changes in a song before trying to play a lead over it, your train will eventually derail.

[@isaiahmarquez9717]

@@7Earthsky I still don’t know what CAGED is (I’m lying….go with it). Some people love it. I do not. I don’t need it. You don’t NEED it but it might work for you.

[@wooliegeek]

Ahhh Tim, both musically and pedagogically a master. Thank you for hosting him and tee’ing up such a great topic.

[@rickfromthecape3135]

"Like stones in a river that you can jump on..." What a great analogy! It's like someone smacked me upside the head! Thanks for the lesson Steve

[@stinemusiclessons]

You are very welcome!

[@marksmedeldds5481]

Hello Steve This is what my teacher is trying to teach me now. Several light switches were just turned on. You and Tim are amazing teachers. Thank you for all the instructional support.

[@stinemusiclessons]

Thanks so much, Mark!

[@Coffeehousesantos]

Hi Steve,for me i went throught your mastercourses and practicing all the scale and modes.I been putting my 10000 hrs and i snoticed that it all starts flowing and meshing naturally

[@BryanBowser]

It's cool to see so many KZbin guitar people pairing up. Tim Pierce stands out however. It's easy to see why he's done so much session work - he's so on top of what he does but what also strikes me about this guy is his ability to clearly communicate what he's doing.

[@mikeflight9]

Hi Steve. Thank you for having Tim on. He is amazing, and of course so are you. Tim made so much sense to me about the chord change and the note changes for the lead. Now I can see why you keep telling us to learn the notes on each string up and down the fretboard. 👍👍

[@stinemusiclessons]

Yeah, he's an amazing player and an even more amazing person, and this is a HUGE KEY to making your solos sound much more authentic.

[@mikeflight9]

I have been subscribed to Tim's channel for a while, and "YES" he is an amazingly nice person. My only real teacher on KZbin is "YOU" Steve because as far I can see, and I have checked many others, you are the best, and an incredibly nice person too. Cheers.👍

[@raysmith7543]

I watch many instructional videos to improve my playing. Lately I have been watching your videos almost exclusively. This video, for me personally, shows why that is the case. Awesome stuff Steve, many thanks.

[@pembertonwardiii4408]

Tim Always Blows My Mind with his playing--far above my ability to follow him as one should. I think You Both Rock and I appreciate your teaching style and the knowledge that even someone as proficient as you is still on the upswing in learning. I love this instrument and am blessed daily to enjoy playing it. Thanks Steve for all you do and Stay Well.

[@stinemusiclessons]

Thanks so much Pemberton!

[@WhippJunior]

Awesome to see these guys together. Two of youtubes best!

[@stinemusiclessons]

Thanks so much! A lot more coming soon :-)

[@NickGranville]

Tim is a legend. A big influence on me and anyone else who does session work. Thanks for this.

[@stinemusiclessons]

Hi Nick. He sure is, and such an amazing guy on a personal level as well.

[@imannonymous7707]

And to my ear....these two men are great lead players.....cheerz boyz

[@stinemusiclessons]

Thanks!

[@Thebluesguy]

Steve and Tim in one video lesson.. thats just awesome 😄 thx

[@MarkSmith-dk4fd]

A little correction ...if your playing a Bmi and a GMA you can be in GMA key you can just play G Maj or B min can be the 2 min. chord in the key of Amaj.call it Dorian if you like mode names on each chord such as Bmin phrygian and G Maj.is Ionian , But B natural min belongs to the Key of Dmaj. ....I think that's what Tim ment to say 🎸🎶🎶🎶✌

[@sagig72]

Best lesson I've seen on how to solo "in the music" rather than "over the music". So beautifully put! Great lesson. You and Tim shall certainly do more lessons together.

[@stinemusiclessons]

Thanks so much!

[@bananamermaid6000]

I had this idea that guitar music was all about cocky shredders, but you guys changed my mind. Thanks for the great content!

[@funkfan1751]

Love Tim Pierce's lessons and how well he plays to everything.

[@stinemusiclessons]

He's awesome on so many levels!

[@dougsmith8430]

LOVE THIS! Thank you Tim and Steve!

[@rajdify]

This sums up the complexity of guitar soloing its so simple now, thanks steve and tim really appreciate your effort.

[@stinemusiclessons]

Thank you! Much more coming soon!

[@BluesLicks101]

This video was about as perfect an instruction for the young & intermediate guitarist as it gets, congratulations to you both on your great work!

[@stinemusiclessons]

Thanks!

[@slowpoke7888]

It's so great to see you two get together. I have checked out dozens of guitar tutors on KZbin but I keep coming back to your good self, Tim Pierce and Brett Papa. All three outstanding teachers and gentlemen. Thanks Steve. BTW I would love to see you do something with Brett Papa; it would complete the circle IMO.

[@stinemusiclessons]

Thanks so much, Slowpoke! I will certainly be contacting Brett as well, we all run in the same circles, but I haven't had a chance to chat with him yet. Great player and teacher though!

[@kevinmorris7722]

Two of the best. So nice you've shared anything at all with us. Can't believe you share your thoughts and tech. Sure wish you two were in a band together. That would be awesome to drift off in the tune. Thanks. Y'all are the best.

[@walaka5150]

Steve you already have great insight to share but by bringing in the "mighty" Tim Pierce you've just upped your game 10-fold brother! A great guy and full on professional!!! Kudo's to you and looking forward to the continued collaborations!! Very cool!!!

[@stinemusiclessons]

Thanks so much!!!

[@nameerased]

Great video. Really enjoyed it. Here’s my two cents - from a guy with zero LA sessions to his credit! :) I like to take advantage of all the different colors available, so I don’t run out of ideas before four bars are up. For example, I might go from natural minor over Am to dorian over the D(7) to harmonic minor over the F. That way, you could build cool lines that use an F against the Am, an F# against the D(7) and a G# (briefly) against the F. Passing tones also add some nice transitional color. For instance, a chromatic line from C to C# to D as you go from Am to D. Depending on how you do this, you can also imply the secondary dominant (A7) to set up the change to D. One color tone I really like is the B or b5 against the F. To my ear, it’s pretty sweet and doesn’t really need to be in passing since it’s in the scale either way. Of course, you could also briefly use the 4th of F (Bb) which is not in the scale and resolve it to A. Tim mentions using Am pentatonic against the F. That idea works particularly well for a jazzy sound since it leaves out the root and offers more of a major 7th sound. It all depends on the style of music you’re playing. A great idea for jazzy pop, but perhaps not as strong for country, etc. It’s a simple progression, but the possibilities seem to go on and on. Especially if you consider extensions and substitutions.

[@DrSMILE-xc1dp]

BIGGEST THANK YOU FOR THIS LESSONS ! NO WORD TO DESCRIBE HOW MUCH I THANKS YOU GUYS FOR MAKING THIS GREAT GUITAR LESSON.

[@charleschad1004]

I think what Tim present in this video is how petrucci make his solo. That sound amazing, playing not too focus or root chord to the scale. I've learn something new! Thank U steve!

[@edt9666]

I found this after seeing you on Tim's channel.....what a joy to watch both of you discuss things. Subscribed!

[@eddysel10]

Excellent video tutorial. I watch both of yours video’s very very often and have learned a lot from you. Have bought also a lot of your lessons. I will practice this approach more from now on, in stead of the “in box thinking” approach. I was wondering what Tim would play if it a repeating chord progression.

[@Lopro94]

Outstanding video. I'm at the right place, at the right time, and you guys are absolutely on point.

[@StaffordsStudio]

Good info i always tend to land on the 4th i consciously try to break out from that theory is key in my opinion to help creativity

[@MrDoneboy]

Thanks guys, you are both my favs to learn from!

[@romainbertrand253]

Great video. Tim is really awesome. Thanks Steve !

[@Gibfenez]

Steve, just found your channel, great info, super clear and right in my pocket as well, thanks for being here!

[@tonyaxeman4381]

I like Tim great guitarist . I really like his approach to the minor scales .

[@davidlegalley1161]

Thank you for this session Steve! I liked the options available, especially the arpeggio sounding of the chords. Now to get to seeing these notes, shapes and keys - fluidly - up - down and across the guitar finger board 🤔. Thank you 👍🏽👍🏽.

[@stinemusiclessons]

Glad to hear it helped!

[@elderberry-hamster]

This was so great. To have both of you discussing all aspects of playing...just fantastic. Tim is legendary. Love it. More videos like this would be great. Thank you sir! 👍👍👍

[@stinemusiclessons]

Thank you so much, Ross! Many more coming soon!

[@srwaite7]

Playing over vs inside. Really great way to put it. 👌🏻

[@stinemusiclessons]

Yeah, that's the way I always thought of it, and felt so much better when I started learning to listen and respond to the music, instead of just "playing"...not that I don't still do that as well here and there :-)

[@joekyleboston]

Steve, I am so glad you connected with Tim. If you and Tim could please continue to collaborate that would be huge for us! Please also find Rick Beato and Pebber Brown. Thanks.

[@stinemusiclessons]

I sure will, Joseph!!

[@johnpalmer9774]

Steve is the greatest teacher ever

[@stinemusiclessons]

Thank you so much, John.

[@CitizenCS]

Best 19:21 I have ever spent on KZbin.

[@AaronAJaeger]

As I’m watching this I looked at my bookshelf of music books and lo and behold, I have a book called The Nashville Pattern for Guitar. Sweet! Time to dig in!

[@stinemusiclessons]

Go for it!

[@shanehen]

Studying jazz and how to play over those changes will take your playing to the ultimate level. Then you’ll know how to sub chords and how to play inside and outside the harmony.

[@yongchaozhao1437]

Concept is very important!

[@headkickko609]

I was heavy into DreamTheater and Petrucci's wild speed etc. I even tryed to adopt his right hand position. But it just didn't work out for me. And although I am still drawn to that speed, I really like that funky, style of rock rhytm guitar like Nuno and Slash (in some cases). I've learned it's something that suits me better and fulfills me more than that shredding thing... Well some of those shred moves remain and they sure turn some heads...

[@Craig_Fussell]

Great video guys! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge with us! ✌🏻🎸🙂

[@stinemusiclessons]

Thanks so much Craig! I will let Tim know as well.

[@hilariovargas8682]

Thank you Tim...very cool...

[@maikay1403]

Awesome lesson today Steve and Tim.

[@stinemusiclessons]

Thanks so much!

[@einarabelc5]

Check Tim's endorsed book. Music theory you can use. Especially if you're starting with it.

[@steveholmes6478]

Great interview and information. I am a beginner and have been learning the pentatonic scales still working on those.

[@stinemusiclessons]

That's great! Just take your time and REALLY absorb the ideas that you study. It's so easy to get "shiny object syndrome" as a guitar player and chase things all over the place. Stay focused and learn to make real-sounding music :-)

[@ritupabankotoky]

Great lesson.

[@autocrow]

Great video! Good questions. It just now dawned on me that if you can play over the chords in one key, you can play over the chords in any key as long as it was the same chord progression. Like Tim said, you just move what you are doing to another location on the neck. I can play over a slow blues 1,4,5. in any key, but if you change the progression to something else I'm lost. What would be a good second progression to practice playing chords over? Thanks for the vid! : )

[@stinemusiclessons]

Well, if you are comfortable with a I IV V (G C D for example), just throw a new chord in there somewhere, like G Em C D, or G Bm C D, etc. and just work around that new chord and get comfortable.

[@Newbyrock23]

OMG, you ANNNNND Tim in the same Vid????? WHAT HAVE I DONE TO BE SO FORTUNATE!? Steve your vids are spectacular, as is your education. Please keep it up!!!

[@stinemusiclessons]

Thanks so much!

[@straightshooter8662]

Awesome stuff man love Mr Peirce and you to Steve my friend

[@stinemusiclessons]

Thanks so much!!

[@rebelquadronfpv1065]

D for DAIM!! Great video.

[@mtrondle]

Steve/Tim, at 4:53 into the video Tim stated he would play in the "key of G". He then starts a scale in the key of D and ends on the G note. Mixolydian? Please clarify.

[@isaaharel3395]

Steve can you use the circle of firths And scale tones /chord tones with this I just got what he using the circle of firths this is scale tones I need to learn both scale tones and chord tones

[@stinemusiclessons]

Honestly, you can use whatever gets you closer to making the music sound the way you want it to sound. Often, people use theory concepts, others use their ears and eyes, and I am just glad people are finding their way, regardless of what works for them.

[@vishyoutubevideos]

two of favorite guitar players/instructors doing a video together. what more can i guy ask for?

[@jepsmusicjp]

So... Triads and Pentatonic scales. Noice, noise, noys. Love it

[@cbeserra]

Awesome collaboration!

[@stinemusiclessons]

Thank you!

[@sumanchowdhury6162]

Great minds think alike!!

[@OU812Eddie]

Thank you Tim/Steve... I just had a 'A HA' moment !

[@stuffilike05]

Amazing video but I Googled "National number system" and "Nashville number system" keeps coming up, which one is it??

[@elvis_chen]

2 my favorite guitar KZbinrs!

[@stinemusiclessons]

Thanks!

[@MonkeyKingsformerroomate]

Hey dude, I worked at the same guitar store you did. Taught there I mean. I am not sure if we met or not. Just wanted to say congrats on the channel, I've browsed quite a bit to help me sorta explain things better. Keep it up sir.

[@stinemusiclessons]

Thanks so much!

[@pcaudio]

That was freaking awesome! Thanks!

[@stinemusiclessons]

You are welcome, Paul :-)

[@patrickpirker1634]

very, very helpful!

[@FcaJettRamone]

Really interesting! Great video, great players.

[@stinemusiclessons]

Thanks so much!

[@shaunmcinnis1960]

awesome Steve .God bless!

[@stinemusiclessons]

And God Bless you as well!

[@chadvillacorta8036]

Tim said that Bm is the natural minor in the key of G. Isn't it in the key of D? Can someone explain it to me

[@hermanmerman8247]

Yep its d

[@wretch1]

For a moment I thought I was going mad! Phew!!

[@Ujvi89721]

Next level things. Thank you for the insight :D

[@stinemusiclessons]

You are most welcome!

[@jasonbone5121]

2 great instructors!

[@stinemusiclessons]

Thanks Jason!

[@lamper2]

Who else got a chill at 9:17 ( " and you learn the modes")

[@AbbeyRoadkill1]

Awesome sauce. Thx

[@stinemusiclessons]

You are welcome!

[@joev4483]

Follow you both love you both!

[@stinemusiclessons]

Thank you Joe!

[@imannonymous7707]

I love chord tone soloing....speed is secondary....to my ear

[@gizmokaiba]

Two kings!!

[@stinemusiclessons]

Ha! You are too kind :-)

[@My1969chevelle]

That was great !

[@sully6183]

Thanks Steve!

[@stinemusiclessons]

You are welcome, Sullivan!

[@rudai123]

Great video!

[@stinemusiclessons]

Thanks so much!

[@williamlee6358]

Tim rocks

[@woodmum]

This is really amazing. One question if I may, the way Tim sees the chords and shapes, is that the caged system he uses?

[@stinemusiclessons]

Yes, he visualizes the CAGED and arpeggios, which of course, overlap...

[@woodmum]

@@stinemusiclessons Little pieces of the puzzle come together. Thank you Steve!

[@SRC1022]

Hey Steve, great video and thank you for sharing! This was very helpful! Would you be able to make a video with how to apply this to metal? Example would be Master of Puppets where you are soloing over mainly palm muted E with some power chords thrown in. Do you just mainly play around E and ignore those other chords that may or may not be part of a key? Trying to figure out how to apply when you aren't playing over basic chords. Thanks!

[@stinemusiclessons]

That might need to be a lesson! Please click on the "request a lesson" link in the description and add this question, and I will make a video on it, it's a great question Sean (but I need to elaborate more than I can type here)!

[@SRC1022]

Thanks! Just submitted

[@StaffordsStudio]

I land on the 7th more often not the 4th

[@pL0n]

Awesome lesson, thank you.

[@stinemusiclessons]

Thanks!

[@ferdielopez1]

I ove this jamming :-) sharing of ideas,,,,thanks folks

[@stinemusiclessons]

You are welcome!

[@einarabelc5]

Was all this just CAGED (I have Steve Maase's book, Tim's teacher) and it seems to fit. I haven't finished it, but is good althougha little confusing, especially in the homework sections because there are some minor mistakes and probably because I already had some theory I have to match to the book.

[@7Earthsky]

I have a feeling it was yes.

[@isaiahmarquez9717]

“Linear playing….not really interacting….like Tim just did.” 😂 I get what you meant….but it still sounded funny. Like just the smallest amount of shade. 😂

[@jamesha175]

how is there no delay time between the two? i find a delay time of 1 second just between my downstairs and my upstairs of the same house.

[@stinemusiclessons]

Well, I use a couple of different pieces of software to do this (and I have used pretty much everything there is), and now I have settled into either Zoom or Wirecast (both good, Wirecast is far more expensive though).

[@jamesha175]

i don't know what kind of wizard you are but the laws of physics dictate that if you are on one side of the house and mr. pierce is on the other side of the same house there will be at least a one second delay. i know damn well that yalls are not in the same house so there should be a greater delay than one second. don't make me find you because i will bring a tape measure. other than that? extra kudos!

[@satchrules101]

But if the chord is playing longer , u need more ideas on the same chord if it’s longer that 1 measure. Just wondering about this ?

[@damonligaw5207]

Nice!

[@stinemusiclessons]

Thank you Damon!

[@MT10dan88]

love to buy u a beer 🍺 Steve 👏🏻

[@ericschwartz9982]

I find it confusing when someone says "pentatonic blues" @ 4:04. The blues scale is 6 notes, not five. It is the minor pentatonic scale with an added flat 5. Maybe I'm missing something.

[@stinemusiclessons]

Usually when someone says "pentatonic" it's 5 notes. when they say "pentatonic blues" they are talking about adding that flatted 5th to the pentatonic, so you are correct, it's 6 notes. It's just a common term.

[@victorformosa228]

How lucky we are that we have tutors like this to learn from, this was a master class. I have 11 triangle players giving it the thumbs down.

[@michaelcraig9449]

Got free tabs?

[@mrmres]

12:56

[@paddycautela]

B natural minor would be the key of D not G ........... B phrygian is in the key of G :)

[@isaaharel3395]

paddy cautela I know David Gilmore uses B minor and d major in comfortable numb

[@ThunderFalcon333]

2 cool guitarist

[@stinemusiclessons]

Thanks, Dennis!

[@stinemusiclessons]

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