Stockfish Just Solved Chess

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[@preking]

One of my favorite things when analyzing Stockfish's games is when Stockfish gives itself brilliant moves or inaccuracies

[@patstaysuckafreeboss8006]

Probably analyzing at a higher depth

[@jean-pierrecoffe6666]

@@patstaysuckafreeboss8006 Higher depth, and the browser integrated version is often not the latest update

[@MH_VOID]

@@jean-pierrecoffe6666 not to mention it's just straight-up less performant. Like, yeah WASM is pretty fast, but definitely not at native speeds - typically being 50%-250% slower - so that much less computation done and that many less brilliancies and inaccuracies gleaned

[@veni1]

it's a low depth version analyzing the better one though

[@Andrew-jh2bn]

@dude3000 yeah, they use stockfish, but the stockfish algorithm doesn't really have "brilliancy" or "inaccuracies", every position simply gets a score. The chess website decides what those are.

[@rand504]

Levy talking about his dog gives the same vibes as when you try to distract the teacher by making him talk about his life 😂

[@5bitcube]

Bro, this gave me major flashbacks. I don't remember doing it myself, but I definitely witnessed in the classroom and it was fucking funny haha

[@jaideepshekhar4621]

Relatable AS FUCK.

[@Shiver197]

@Seeing Star is this a link to my childhood?? or?

[@vivvpprof]

Very astute observation. Like, I can't follow what's being said in the class but have you heard what Trump said about XYZ?

[@noahollington9946]

so true! 🤣

[@TopShelfMontana]

just love this guy's attitude and personality. Watching him is more fun than playing chess.

[@igorignaz5319]

hes basicly gatekeeping us from getting good with good content :D haha love it

[@yousufownzu6902]

What happened to alphazero?

[@elynolamat674]

@@yousufownzu6902 The dev move on and LCZero is build from AZero framework.

[@yousufownzu6902]

@@elynolamat674 so u r saying theybwere better engines than alphazero and googles deep mind smthing… Now stock fish is the best?

[@elynolamat674]

@@yousufownzu6902 yes

[@childeater6986]

No idea how anyone would be mad that the dog was "interrupting" the video, its genuinely like a treat or something for clicking on here. 😂

[@malknight4197]

same

[@dolthhaven8564]

i didnt like it

[@jessetrueba9578]

Are you an uzi fan?

[@serioussilliness2064]

Yayy

[@L.G.X.69420]

​@@dolthhaven8564L

[@shubbyshabaas]

"I'm giving Stockfish an honorary Grandmaster title" Stockfish: am I a joke to you?

[@piggynatorcool668]

Stockfish is no mere GM

[@lyfehaxandtrix3481]

Lmao Stockfish solos the whole verse

[@Chaos_Theory947]

Levy should’ve given them honorary engine master titles

[@phen-themoogle7651]

Stockfish should grant humans GM titles if they can draw against Stockfish jk

[@forko9152]

Stockfish is a gm, god master

[@turnuphat7882]

Levy: spends 5 minutes explaining 1 move Also Levy anyways so none of that happened

[@benjaminoechsli1941]

It's honestly one of the most entertaining things about Gotham videos.

[@Blinkers2007GameDev]

lmfao

[@dugglinieduardo2690]

@@benjaminoechsli1941 Indeed. Exploring theoretical lines regardless of if they were played is the essence of chess.

[@mihailmilev9909]

I was thinking about this a few videos ago as well lol

[@ferociousfeind8538]

The engines each do about two hours of this before each of their moves, that's often how they play :P

[@midn8588]

One of the things I *LOVE* about engine games is how the tempo can get so high that they won't make immediate takes because something else needs to happen first and that something else is so important that they will just leave pieces lying around

[@micayahritchie7158]

Do you know that the concept of having pets indoors and pets being cute and cuddly are not universal?

[@Yafama]

@@micayahritchie7158 Wrong reply?

[@micayahritchie7158]

@@Yafama Going to be real with you. I don't remember commenting here and I can't find it so idk

[@Herculean.Aficionado]

@@micayahritchie7158 that comment looked so out of place 😂😂😂 Did you smoke something before you commented?

[@micayahritchie7158]

@@Herculean.Aficionado i still can't see the comment you're referring to

[@Husky-Builds]

The dog interactions made me so incredibly happy.

[@VexIlluminated]

Door: *OPENS* Levy: "Must have been the wind"

[@seltascare4713]

Npc of Skyrim:

[@MegaJohny777]

What's that then!? There's someone prowling round here!

[@M_Zidane]

He would not survive in a horror movie

[@Toshinben]

So, which horror movie villain would get Levy: Jason Voorhees, Freddy Krueger, his wife (as a zombie), his dog (as a zombie), his wife (Bodysnatched), his dog (alien parasite), the person who was murdered in his apartment (as a ghost), homicidal wasps, demons (the Devil's Advocate type - he lives in NYC)?

[@M_Zidane]

@Toshinben even the scream guy would get him

[@Timmichanga361]

We're doomed when Stockfish becomes self-aware

[@setshabadipitsho1185]

Legit 😅😅

[@eacringesports5137]

En passants behind you

[@Suranda68]

yeah he is a real creep

[@Lockpicking-chessplayer]

stockfish became aware just the other night! ...it watched many political and real world videos only to short itself out to just play chess again! 😂 if we could all be as lucky.

[@JimmyOlsson]

Check mate...

[@Technomancr]

20:17 We saw with the high level GO and DotA AIs that once they were guaranteed to win they started making moves that were no longer optimal. They didn't care if they won by a tiny margin or a massive one.

[@KitKatHexe]

I came here after watching 40K videos and I thought my KZbin app was glitching because when you said "DotA AI" I thought it said "DAoT AI" and my brain basically had to reboot

[@kamiihate3733]

That's really interesting, do we have an explanation for that?

[@snbeast9545]

Is it possible that it was diverting the king so that it could safely play Bc5? edit: what am I talking about the king moved on its own between those

[@D3m0nX-01]

@@KitKatHexe I smell heresy

[@NiliMoto]

@@snbeast9545 no i honestly think you're right! I cant begin to comprehend all the lines that could've come from not sacking the pawn but it very much looks like a classic attraction tactic and i can definitely imagine how the king on the 6th rank is better for black in some way so white chose to attract it to the 5th. If the king just moves out of check that pawn becomes another threat of queening. Again im no engine but in my eyes its more likely to be an attraction tactic rather than a humorous blunder

[@SageBlackmoon]

They say Levi's dog is still squeaking to this day.

[@AyrtonTwigg]

If Stockfish sacrifices material seemingly for no reason in the endgame (sometimes even a full queen), it's probably because it's close to getting into a theoretical (100%) known win according to the tablebase. It sacrifices the pieces to get into a known win faster (a position with 6 or 7 pieces on the board).

[@javrancheng9917]

That's also my guess, if I'm not mistaken, the game is Superfinal game 88, and sf already given 150+ evaluation on move 53.

[@tszyau7264]

I think the engines are only given 6 piece tablebase not 7 and that's why Leela instantly resigned when there are only 6 pieces left

[@MacDaniboi]

If that is true, that is also very sad.

[@RedArremer]

I posted this as well. It's because of TB probing. I'm surprised at how little chess masters know about how these chess engines work, seeing as how they have to use them all the time in pre-game prep. Also there's a lot of people confused in the comments asking why Leela didn't get a shot as white in the same opening. TCEC does in fact give each side a chance at the same opening, and SF still blew Leela out of the water with something like 18 winning game pairs to just ONE for Leela.

[@ShadowOfCicero]

I mean, to an engine, a known win is no different than a checkmate, so logically, a known win in 2 would be preferred to a checkmate in 3.

[@brokereaper]

I will never be disappointed by Benji's guest appearances

[@dejackarse7278]

As a dog enthusiast. I enjoyed the guest star of this episode :D

[@mihailmilev9909]

@@dejackarse7278 same. It's literally rn as I read this

[@wow-roblox8370]

@@dejackarse7278 yep, and whenever you see them remember to like and subscribe

[@JulianSloman]

I could very much live without - but there's this beautiful thing: fast fowarding!

[@MyBiPolarBearMax]

Levy: “I’m not going to glorify bullying” Also Levy: Puts out multiple extensive videos of alpha zero murdering Stockfish.

[@mohamademirhareez4651]

Alpha zero ain’t beating the most recent stockfish version now I think

[@Baru_boy]

@@mohamademirhareez4651 what if they update alpha zero too

[@mohamademirhareez4651]

@@Baru_boy i dont think they will, cuz rn im pretty sure alpha0 aint even the second or third best engine its leela 2nd now and not sure ab 3rd

[@ronalddoctor8622]

Coward alpha 0

[@volcanoraider9139]

@@mohamademirhareez4651 damn

[@dathaniel9403]

Anyone who has a problem with your dog being in a video is the guy who the friend group secretly starts another group chat just to exclude.

[@benslater3588]

This game was like a how to lose at chess episode except the 400s were accidentally playing brilliant moves

[@yessir6427]

grow a brain pls

[@benslater3588]

@@yessir6427 bro what

[@jamieclark5659]

If this game had been submitted for Guess The Elo, what would Levy's guess had been? 😂

[@tejasshah7691]

400

[@vholes2803]

16660

[@Lordmewtwo151]

I'm thinking either 2700. I don't see any guess from 1000-2700 that would make any remote amount of sense.

[@themind1401]

600 elo definitely

[@badereric]

@@Lordmewtwo151 I don't think any two 2700+ players are ever playing this

[@tigershark0067]

Stockfish: *does anything* Levi: *brain orgaam*

[@shreyjain3197]

he could have easily disguised this game as being played by two 300s and we would still believe it

[@dbb03]

The rook on h8 literally survived the entire game.

[@benjaminoechsli1941]

"If I don't _move,_ they can't see me!"

[@U20E0]

@@benjaminoechsli1941 says the tower standing on a battlefield

[@Litwinel]

I remember when Leela was 1600 and I almost won a game against her. Later when Leela was around 2700 I really hoped for Magnus vs Leela game, human versus artificial intelligence, but sadly such a match never happened.

[@BrennenChua]

There was a Leela vs penguin match though which you might find interesting.

[@Litwinel]

@@BrennenChua yeah, that bullet match was exciting, I believe i even watched part of if live. But you know, I really wanted kind of Kasparov vs Deep Blue V2 match. Classical match. Deep positional thinking, who could win, a human, or a machine that thinks more like a human. But now it's far too late. Maybe another chance will emerge if some new revolution in technology happens and it will be used to create even more different chess AI.

[@rickrick5041]

Magnus coward

[@Greatermaxim]

You have me. I drew against Stockfish at its highest level. I was the first player in a QP game. I do not think anyone can win against it though a draw is not a loss.

[@nishima-kun583]

@@Greatermaxim i drew out komodo dragon

[@Lord_Volkner]

That was a pretty cool game, no question. I like to watch engines play. What amazes me about engine play is that we can figure out why they moved where they moved after the fact, but we can't figure it out before hand.

[@michaeledmunds7056]

Levy: "What they do is make the chess engines perverted.." Me: *takes out pen and notepad* Levy: "...Not in that way." Me: *puts away*

[@axerity9212]

The most insane part about the rook that was hanging for so many moves is that it lived until the end of the game.

[@destro0oyerbhr254]

Damn. Hans is playing really well

[@truongthaiucduong2807]

the comment speaks for itself :))

[@ifty7017]

levy: starts recording benji: peace was never an option

[@elijahkierski8183]

3:14 is easily the best part of this video

[@iTMi3]

The dog is famous now

[@tonetelui9321]

Stockfish playing for Norway is so great

[@vowtekohnsurvateeve7689]

One of its inventor is from Norway

[@vowtekohnsurvateeve7689]

and its a also fitting because the best player is from Norway too

[@deinauge7894]

and stockfish was a relevant part of norwegian export once

[@mooncalf_4534]

@@vowtekohnsurvateeve7689 I'm not from Norway

[@suborno965]

We want to see more of stockfish games from you levy

[@tommydiefritte]

It's probably nothing

[@OJC6]

Well it's clear that if Stockfish didn't senselessly give up the pawn in the endgame the game would not have ended on move 69 which would have been an L for everyone.

[@Max4ever3D]

Bro the rook on f3 survived the whole game it was the last piece

[@Hanqy]

And the way it surrendered on the corner the board like… “fuck it, my comrades are all dead and my king is surrounded, i’m just gonna flee from the battlefield” 😂

[@WestoberFM]

I appreciate you not cutting any part of the dog interaction. We are so used to videos being altered to show only the best and seeing that whole section felt really nice for a change!

[@BramSekreve]

Stockfish just playing with Leela at the end there, love it.

[@idontknowwhattowritehere.8361]

Leela got stocked by it's fish

[@jarirepo1172]

And Leela resigning at move 69. :D

[@tristanyokom1542]

Revenge for how much of a troll Leela is when given the chance

[@thehero9]

Came for stockfish, stayed for the doggo

[@Bruhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.]

Levy I’ll be totally honest, even ignoring your chess skill, you genuinely are just an amazing teacher. You’re just such a sociable guy, and I feel like you could talk about anything, no matter how boring, and be enticed by it. That’s true skill telling from my attention span lol.

[@chozowarrior9115]

Have someone realized the last piece of LCZero was the Rook that was hanging the whole game? Absolutely hilarious 😂

[@OwariNeko]

Came for chess, stayed for dog

[@alvar6444]

Came for dog

[@anthonygallicchio8121]

The pup was a welcome part of the video so cute

[@irontide]

I didn't see this TCEC game live, and it somehow flew under my radar, so thanks for covering it, Levy! Utterly bonkers. Worth mentioning that when Stockfish was forced to play black from the same starting position, Leela was able to win as well in a more straightforward game, with a very AlphaZero-style early pawn push to h6.

[@Forever-GM-Dusty]

As long as you remain most focused on the chess, I actually really enjoy the occasional cameo of your family and home life. It lets us see Levy the person, and that's really cool

[@jashepoon]

Oh my. Next time Benji appears in a KZbin video, he will be bigger than Levy!

[@tony0000]

One of the most amazing games I've ever seen. Shows what happens when the world's two greatest chess players ever face off.

[@Ali-wf9ef]

You don't give Stockfish honorary titles, Stockfish gives you honorary titles.

[@thepearled0120]

3:02 Damn, only a couple moves into the game and we already have a zwischenzug.

[@amoora9000]

I'm doing well levy! Keep up the amazing content! GTE and engine videos are my favorite type of content you make, and yes, Benji made it more entertaining:)

[@gatsandglocks]

I love how during your chess explanation you give us little bits and pieces of what's going in your life, I enjoy it a lot and your doggo is adorable.

[@mikeluque6527]

Never apologize for Benji! More Benji!

[@mikeluque6527]

Also, great Twitter reference

[@yungruuku]

Love when Benji comes through

[@ganeshravi5567]

That black rook which was open to take so many times.. survived till the end with his king--"Legendary Rook"

[@aaronmarkstaller]

Ah yes, a chess game played on a knife edge

[@cloenobody]

thank you for the lovely videos. these engine matches are fascinating and so much fun to watch! you do such a great job being entertaining and interesting. the dog cameos brought a smile to my face too :)

[@orenawaerenyeager]

You know you are winning when the bar shows up for you even before the opening.

[@pineapplelollipop1074]

Nice name

[@samaelblack8107]

I like how you break down games, but I also like seeing Levy, the human being, living life.

[@theblinkingbrownie4654]

Clearly you skip the starts of the videos if you think levi is human

[@greatmusic142]

@@theblinkingbrownie4654 Detroit becomes human reference? the blinking lights on the side of his head indicating he might a robot that turned deviant??

[@Dark_Aves]

Benji is precious

[@martdafirst]

few videos make me laugh in the first 10 seconds, but you sir have done it again

[@manuelchenet6503]

Imagine Tal playing in this computer era.. it would be amazing to see it working with them

[@bingbongarmy9078]

Joined for the chess, stayed because of the dog

[@Rawrkorn]

I like that you just embraced the chaos. Much better than stressing about it

[@gilgamesh2646]

How this guy can even make a robot battle so interesting?

[@mrvlacp]

Levy talking about his dog shows how good person he is

[@SnackMuay]

I love engine videos. Makes me realize how little we understand about chess and that’s a surprisingly great feeling.

[@jakovcu]

For me that is also scary in a way

[@sevret313]

Great game that manages to be a 360 and 3600 elo game at the same time.

[@shouldersofgiants4649]

Your engine videos are the best. It would be awesome to see you feature more TCEC superfinal games with animated commentary

[@MoneyWantsToDie]

Interestingly enough, since Benji was the costar of this episode, we just adopted an old man dog yesterday and he was my copilot watching this episode.

[@mariusnazaria7218]

Stockfish is so good that he starts with +0.6 ...I'm dieing

[@ThomasistheTwin]

Sacing the last pawn shut the king out from the other side of the board. Look where the rook went and stayed.

[@bobsi3769]

Love how the rook which was hanging half of the game is the only black piece that survived until the end

[@leonaise7546]

Also I like the authenticity of your vids. You don’t edit out any parts that aren’t perfect & just be you. Respect💪.

[@thedailygrind24]

Stockfish solved chess like levy solved the youtube algorithm

[@AdamX1124]

Stockfish may think it’s solved chess. But I saw the Gotham’s video where it was absolutely annihilated by AlphaZero

[@wandregisel6385]

That was an era ago tho. Computer chess has evolved quite a bit since then. Consider that back in 2019 (I believe it was) Leela demolished SF, but now SF is back to being the strongest

[@MrCelestial]

These past few videos from you are like coming out of a gold mine. GTE and analyzing one of stock fish's games 🥰

[@radvalveeta9165]

When you realize stockfish isn’t actually a fish…

[@justsomerandomguy8210]

This feels like they are playing a few moves in the future and are just constantly preparing

[@emilyscloset2648]

reminds me of the Edward vs Alice in Twilight. Alice can see the future to see what Edward plays. Edward can read Alice's mind to know what she is going to play

[@shaunakbhatewara5154]

Benji just chilling/worrying in the background🤣😀and then when the circus starts just worries even more!!

[@Mike-vn3lt]

holy crap that was an incredible game. Would love to see some coverage on Prags games today, or some of the missed opportunities by magnus in his game. Love the content.

[@khaledamura5941]

8 minutes into the video and levy hasen't changed the title yet. Impressive stuff!

[@SquidScopes]

Leela didn't resign on move 69. It was because TSEC uses Tablebases and there were 6 pieces left and it is won for white, giving white the win.

[@peppermintmiso4341]

gotta love stockfish awarding stockfish a good evaluation

[@johntran8496]

This game is beautiful because it shows how engines play without emotions. It only plays for best optimal play.

[@BarnabyG]

this was mind boggling to watch, thx for the content levy

[@jupalaja]

Actually loved Benji's moves

[@sammurphy4300]

Engine content can be well beyond lost on me but that was a wild game. I even watched the ads.

[@roadhockey]

The dog clearly thought Mittens was playing...

[@21nod]

I love these games, they keep the intrest up through out the entire game. Make more AI vs AI videos

[@joshelguapo5563]

I completely support the puppy break in the video 🐕

[@kertjalukse757]

I expected a fish, got a dog. Not complaining.

[@neineinfachnein4497]

Stockfish🤝Stockfish

[@lancelee338]

I’m doing good! I just finished a Discrete Math exam, and I think I did good on all the problems except the last, which counted for three points unfortunately. I’m about to go to a Data Structures lab, and I have an online Spanish exam due by midnight. It’s the end of the semester so teachers have to get their assignments in I didn’t mind the dog either

[@soupdev3309]

?

[@tomasbeltran04050]

qed

[@kindlin]

@@soupdev3309 Last 10 seconds of the video.

[@reflectivish385]

Bro who asked

[@lancelee338]

@@reflectivish385 22:06 Mr. Gotham Chess did

[@SomeTallGuy203]

kinda wish the rook that was hanging for half the game would be the last piece remaining for black but just wasn't the case...

[@hacker4chn841]

>Dog: *opens door* >Levy: "Must have been the wind"

[@JonasFunk89]

"I thought it was just the wind." Levy would be perfect as a guard in stealth video games.

[@dhauz___7855]

Came for the chess, stayed for the dog.

[@PushyPawn]

Those 22 mins flew by.. I was spellbound by doggy cuteness and engine sorcery. 👍 Please sir, can I have some more?

[@puppyendorsement3314]

you know a game is wild when the player who is up on material is losing.

[@NicholasMocha]

Thank you for the dog intermission I needed that before this game

[@voidl3s246]

Stockfish is great but Benji is way too cute to overlook. Wish benji all the health

[@twoduece]

i remember gotham making a video on magnus carlsens best game ever and i wanted to offer another game in that ballpark that could make a good video- Magnus Carlsen v Li Chao in the 2015 Qatar Masters. Both players were on the verge of absolute destruction for many moves following a novelty from Chao, but Magnus at multiple times found the only way to prevent being mated and keep a decisive advantage. one of my favorites personally, and the first game i memorized top to bottom. It didnt make waves or anything but i think its deserving of a video.

[@Maros554]

I absolutely love how there is an eval bar when stockfish is playing

[@Ryanmuniverse]

Doin good Gotham. Love the engine content. Love the magnus content. Still waiting for a dedicated richard rapport video :D