Stockfish vs. Stockfish: PERFECT CHESS

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0:57 Najdorf Game 1
6:20 Najdorf Game 2
8:35 Caro Kann
16:20 INSANE London Game
21:40 STOCKFISH WINS
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@phosphor6472
@phosphor6472 Жыл бұрын
Stockfish playing itself results in a perfect game of chess according to Stockfish
@Foxhound3857
@Foxhound3857 Жыл бұрын
Stockfish speaks for itself.
@jakejta6157
@jakejta6157 Жыл бұрын
TRUUUUUUUUE
@ReyHosein
@ReyHosein Жыл бұрын
I play a perfect game as well but in 1000 elo "perfection"
@freeEnd_
@freeEnd_ Жыл бұрын
Jeez that's really deep
@ryunoishi6514
@ryunoishi6514 Жыл бұрын
Stockfish: just trust me bro, I played perfect
@safestate8750
@safestate8750 Жыл бұрын
Now when someone plays the modern against you, you can just say:"That's a bad move I have a mate in 127"
@ParmodSharma-fm4ug
@ParmodSharma-fm4ug Жыл бұрын
Ofcourse gonna say it
@alekssavic1154
@alekssavic1154 Жыл бұрын
And then immediately blunder 3 queens and lose.
@nexdemise4182
@nexdemise4182 Жыл бұрын
@@alekssavic1154 Listen, if you give me 3 queens to blunder then we both belong on the chess short bus.
@SG2048-meta
@SG2048-meta Жыл бұрын
@@nexdemise4182 well I mean Stockfish 15 promoted 3 pawns to queens playing against Stockfish 8 in another one of Levy’s videos…..
@nexdemise4182
@nexdemise4182 Жыл бұрын
@@SG2048-meta Did it win?
@BambiLokonga
@BambiLokonga Жыл бұрын
Bruh i cant see a mate in 3 but stockfish sacrifices a pawn for 12 moves later
@jeffkaze7
@jeffkaze7 Жыл бұрын
No you did not
@BambiLokonga
@BambiLokonga Жыл бұрын
@@jeffkaze7 pls show some respect for us 1000s
@Velyren
@Velyren Жыл бұрын
@@jeffkaze7 Did not what exactly?
@ellielikesmath
@ellielikesmath Жыл бұрын
seems like they misread cant for can and got offended on behalf of stockfish lol
@jeffkaze7
@jeffkaze7 Жыл бұрын
@@ellielikesmath lol true I wrote that because I was dyslexic and thought it was can, I was like. 'No way a dork could see a mate in 3 while a 99% accurate ninja robot couldn't see it' lmfao Sorry OP
@gabrieletolomeo7497
@gabrieletolomeo7497 Жыл бұрын
Stockfish: Sacrificing my rook is the best move for me Stockfish: Well I know that's why I won't take your rook Stockfish: I already knew you wouldn't take it, you're me after all Stockfish: I'm so good at playing chess
@AfterlifeAnubis
@AfterlifeAnubis Жыл бұрын
The stockfish comments on this video have me rolling lmao
@suyogbajracharya4186
@suyogbajracharya4186 Жыл бұрын
Ye
@tailowez5866
@tailowez5866 Жыл бұрын
WHICH IS WHICH lolz
@Augalv
@Augalv Жыл бұрын
The way you put it makes it sound like Stockfish was aware of itself when it isn't. Unlike humans, computers can't think on their own.
@101xXxSlackerxXx101
@101xXxSlackerxXx101 Жыл бұрын
@@Augalv Damn we got einstein over here
@chess
@chess Жыл бұрын
*insert spiderman pointing meme, but they start punching each other*
@shadowvirk9901
@shadowvirk9901 Жыл бұрын
lets just ignore this comment's entire existence for fun
@lolnt6103
@lolnt6103 Жыл бұрын
its chess
@invis_potion
@invis_potion Жыл бұрын
@@shadowvirk9901 yeah lol
@izanazir7088
@izanazir7088 Жыл бұрын
Who is even this guy, and whats his business
@1000-THR_Benjamin
@1000-THR_Benjamin Жыл бұрын
@@izanazir7088 he is chess, his business is chess
@trygveplaustrum4634
@trygveplaustrum4634 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that Gotham denotes how logical Stockfish's moves are, as if Stockfish would ever make a highly emotional move.
@heozao6104
@heozao6104 Жыл бұрын
He felt more comfortable in that line
@Ace-dv5ce
@Ace-dv5ce Жыл бұрын
Fish also have emotions that was very ignorant
@Lilly-Lilac
@Lilly-Lilac Жыл бұрын
@@Ace-dv5ce Fish are known to be passive aggressive
@a8727
@a8727 Жыл бұрын
Stockfish got tilted
@Amethyst_Friend
@Amethyst_Friend Жыл бұрын
Logical is not the antithesis of emotional. Too much Star Trek lol
@lucasakachubby8694
@lucasakachubby8694 Жыл бұрын
"A perfect game of chess will always end in a draw" -Stokfish
@AdhvaithSane
@AdhvaithSane Жыл бұрын
Yeah Works for me 😈
@spudcoconut
@spudcoconut Жыл бұрын
-Sun Tsu, Art of War
@chipotletheexperience
@chipotletheexperience Жыл бұрын
Stockfish*
@chipotletheexperience
@chipotletheexperience Жыл бұрын
@@spudcoconutTzu*
@jnjbbvh3611
@jnjbbvh3611 Жыл бұрын
@@chipotletheexperience UnavailableBird*
@pixeltobipg3d199
@pixeltobipg3d199 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if Stockfish lost and the analysis says he lost with a 99% accuracy
@coolcatcastle8
@coolcatcastle8 Жыл бұрын
probably did
@arigross5373
@arigross5373 Жыл бұрын
Magnus once lost to Stockfish with 97% accuracy
@galletaeditz
@galletaeditz Жыл бұрын
​@@arigross5373 stockfish be like:im sorry,im half step ahead of you
@NearQuasar
@NearQuasar Жыл бұрын
@@arigross5373 A single mistake is all that is needed if your opponent plays perfectly
@Chizypuff
@Chizypuff 10 ай бұрын
Accuracy is based on stockfish move choice, no? So every game stockfish plays at full strength will be 100% accuracy
@skiller5034
@skiller5034 Жыл бұрын
Humans : "Stockfish what kind of theory is *this* ?" Stockfish : "I *am* the theory!"
@z483gk
@z483gk Жыл бұрын
"I am the one who knocks!"
@adriendebosse6941
@adriendebosse6941 Жыл бұрын
It's a good reminder to have. We used to consider engines stronger when they had the opening libraries loaded (i remember the older fritz playing book moves until move 30+ when playing against itself), but since engines are nowadays used to study newer (and better) lines in openings, they really redefine what is best theory in openings
@ltaliken8607
@ltaliken8607 Жыл бұрын
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@sanjeeva311076
@sanjeeva311076 Жыл бұрын
I hear that in James Earl Jones' voice
@bryanhenry6871
@bryanhenry6871 Жыл бұрын
I am not in "theory", skyler. I AM the theory!
@gmdudafanclub5228
@gmdudafanclub5228 Жыл бұрын
“Chess speaks for itself” -GM Hans “Stockfish speaks for chess” - Stockfish
@ade8890
@ade8890 Жыл бұрын
"I am chess" - Stockfish.
@vikbt
@vikbt Жыл бұрын
@@ade8890 "I am Stockfish" - Chess
@afraidofwhatdonotbeafraid
@afraidofwhatdonotbeafraid Жыл бұрын
"Stockfish am Chess" - I
@itzsensei1465
@itzsensei1465 Жыл бұрын
*Am i chess?" - Stockfish
@frednimzowi9852
@frednimzowi9852 Жыл бұрын
I have to agree with Hans there
@DerpyUniverse
@DerpyUniverse Жыл бұрын
Levi when we blunder our rook:”what is this idiot doing he must be 700” Levi when Stockfish blunders their rook:”outstanding move the foresight here is incredible”
@Blitz_maniac
@Blitz_maniac Жыл бұрын
Also stick fish You fool you have taken my rook that’s checkmate in 54
@Blitz_maniac
@Blitz_maniac Жыл бұрын
Stock fish Auto correct be like
@arneshpal7702
@arneshpal7702 Жыл бұрын
@@Blitz_maniac stickfish
@vibingduck2313
@vibingduck2313 Жыл бұрын
@@Blitz_maniac you know you can edit it right
@peblamon4731
@peblamon4731 Жыл бұрын
Trades*
@randomguy2584
@randomguy2584 Жыл бұрын
Stockfish vs Leela probably results in better chess despite the fact that Leela is worse than stockfish, simply because they have different ideas of how the game should be played so they "get suprised" by each others moves in some sense.
@PtylerBeats
@PtylerBeats Жыл бұрын
You can’t surprise the bot because the bot isn’t making moves based on what it THINKS you’re going to do. It makes plays based off of what the objectively best move is despite what the other person plays. The bot accounts for EVERY play. Even when it’s not optimal
@abdallahhakeem5185
@abdallahhakeem5185 Жыл бұрын
@@PtylerBeats True, it literally accounts for even the 8th variation of triple committed bongcloud botez gambits and everything on top of the board. Each bot just played certain hundreds of gazillions of games, tried certain lines and found different things to lead to better resolutions overall (though stockfish and alphazero tend to be way more receptive than most other bots due to their (I believe) greater experience (?)
@marcosm1223
@marcosm1223 Жыл бұрын
@@PtylerBeats so wouldn't that make the lesser bot lose most of the time?
@Bob13454
@Bob13454 Жыл бұрын
@@PtylerBeats Stockfish hasn't solved chess though, so it seems possible for an engine that has a different way of thinking about the game to find a line stockfish didn't, even if it happens super rarely. They would have to be pretty close in strength though and I don't know how much better stockfish is.
@Phoenix-zu6on
@Phoenix-zu6on Жыл бұрын
@@PtylerBeats yes you can surprise a bot like Leela, the discrepancy in outcome of what the network predicted vs what actually happened is exactly how a neural net learns, lol.
@andrewlitfin1977
@andrewlitfin1977 Жыл бұрын
See, when Stockfish gambits two pawns, it proceeds to get an absolutely savage position. When I gambit two pawns, it’s because I forgot they had a bishop on the other side of the board.
@wifty362
@wifty362 Жыл бұрын
Lol, it happened to me too many times
@KingNedya
@KingNedya Жыл бұрын
It's always the bishop that barely even moved until then, if at all. Every time.
@rewrittenbytes1616
@rewrittenbytes1616 Жыл бұрын
BREAKING NEWS: “Stockfish playing Stockfish is perfect”, says GM Stockfish
@thestockfishgirl2681
@thestockfishgirl2681 Жыл бұрын
Oh, amazing quote to use it!
@logangrove4103
@logangrove4103 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a title from The Onion
@anuartureshbayev1291
@anuartureshbayev1291 Жыл бұрын
stockfish doesn't agree to play at gm level
@NowWeJustWinIt
@NowWeJustWinIt Жыл бұрын
@@anuartureshbayev1291 is stockfish the real SuperGM?
@thestockfishgirl2681
@thestockfishgirl2681 Жыл бұрын
@@NowWeJustWinIt I'm much better than GMs.
@simbadg13
@simbadg13 Жыл бұрын
It's literally the Pixar short of the old man playing chess with himself!
@dinamosflams
@dinamosflams Жыл бұрын
except the old man is an elderly god
@namelesssoyboy3747
@namelesssoyboy3747 Жыл бұрын
Stockfish playing against stockfish and drawing constantly is like how two people will constantly draw when playing tic tac toe
@DirkThys
@DirkThys Жыл бұрын
9:27 "No you're not a 3800 level engine, you might not even be 800" You might not even be an engine
@saxebbel1986
@saxebbel1986 Жыл бұрын
This is the funniest comment
@anglik3954
@anglik3954 Жыл бұрын
This deserves an "I'm not an engine" CAPTCHA meme.
@Forty2de
@Forty2de Жыл бұрын
vroom vroom
@microwave911
@microwave911 Жыл бұрын
This is the equivalent of: If i hit myself and it hurts, am I strong or weak?
@vez3834
@vez3834 Жыл бұрын
Means your attack stat is higher than your defense. Train more defense to have a more well-rounded build.
@ParmodSharma-fm4ug
@ParmodSharma-fm4ug Жыл бұрын
It means you are a moron for punching in wrong place.
@arneshpal7702
@arneshpal7702 Жыл бұрын
@@vez3834 no
@youwantmyname9208
@youwantmyname9208 Жыл бұрын
@@vez3834 I am not scared of someone with alot of defense *I am afraid of someone with alot of dodging*
@XpVersusVista
@XpVersusVista Жыл бұрын
@@youwantmyname9208 so youre more afraid of a sparrow than of an hippopotamus?
@humbiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
@humbiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii Жыл бұрын
future stockfish 20 will laugh at this "perfect" chess lol
@jocker6271
@jocker6271 Жыл бұрын
Yea lol
@maddeleinecarter771
@maddeleinecarter771 8 ай бұрын
I dont think Stockfish can indefinitely improve I think version 18 or 19 will solve chess.
@hgr5789
@hgr5789 8 ай бұрын
@@maddeleinecarter771nah im gonna solve chess.
@WhyNotEveryone
@WhyNotEveryone 7 ай бұрын
​@@hgr5789love the confidence
@thebcwonder4850
@thebcwonder4850 6 ай бұрын
@@maddeleinecarter771 unlikely, you’d need millennia to do that
@immortaltarkyn1072
@immortaltarkyn1072 Жыл бұрын
Stockfish vs. Stockfish = Perfect chess Perfect chess at its best = draw Stockfish vs. Stockfish = draw
@Jonnaass1
@Jonnaass1 Жыл бұрын
bro is ALbert einsteins vater
@gigachadgaming1551
@gigachadgaming1551 11 ай бұрын
Math axioms be like
@slugintub
@slugintub 10 ай бұрын
what an absolute genius we are dealing with
@ayman.mahmood45
@ayman.mahmood45 8 ай бұрын
So you are saying that Draw = Draw 🤔
@immortaltarkyn1072
@immortaltarkyn1072 8 ай бұрын
@@ayman.mahmood45 yuh huh
@fabiogamer0679
@fabiogamer0679 Жыл бұрын
*Stockfish is standing in front of a mirror* Stockfish: "Yeah, do something. Do something, come on! Swing! Wanna hit me so bad, SWING!"
@panostzo2713
@panostzo2713 Жыл бұрын
To me that is literally a description for a cat
@Moldylocks
@Moldylocks Жыл бұрын
That's Robert De Niro in 'Taxi Driver'
@asrieldreemurrthe1st
@asrieldreemurrthe1st Жыл бұрын
@@panostzo2713 stockcat
@sharifbrown3567
@sharifbrown3567 Жыл бұрын
I love this comment.
@TheBlueAkumu
@TheBlueAkumu Жыл бұрын
@@asrieldreemurrthe1st this came back to bite everyone In the ass months later.
@imamasterbaiter6645
@imamasterbaiter6645 Жыл бұрын
No chess is more perfect than two 600s playing. It’s all in your meaning of perfect.
@plantftw2123
@plantftw2123 Жыл бұрын
their blunders are beyond our current understanding
@UberHummus
@UberHummus Жыл бұрын
This is the nicest thing anyone has ever said about my skill level
@vez3834
@vez3834 Жыл бұрын
Utter chaos. Chaos can be beautiful.
@moammarzachari
@moammarzachari Жыл бұрын
Not even hikaru nor magnus can predict next move of 600s elo player
@salim444
@salim444 Жыл бұрын
no no that's art in its purist form
@maxofcourse
@maxofcourse Жыл бұрын
Levi: "YOU'RE THE WORST, YOU'LL NEVER BE GOOD!" Levi: "my glasses are sick af"
@Vortex-qb2se
@Vortex-qb2se Жыл бұрын
Stockfish: I know what I think, yet I still cannot defeat myself
@SeddincY
@SeddincY Жыл бұрын
"Stockfish 15 does not know any theory. Stockfish 15 IS the theory. " I dunno why but that lines makes stockfish so badass for me.
@radical_drift572
@radical_drift572 Жыл бұрын
As Alekhine once said "Sir, I am the book!"
@MIDO44444
@MIDO44444 Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of "I'm not in danger . I'M the danger"
@SeddincY
@SeddincY Жыл бұрын
@@MIDO44444 YESSS I WAS REMINDED OF THIS TOO
@Lordmewtwo151
@Lordmewtwo151 Жыл бұрын
@@MIDO44444 Or Rosarch's line in Watchmen. I don't remember the exact wording, but it was something about making the inmates understand "I'm not locked in with you. You're locked in with me."
@snowygear3516
@snowygear3516 Жыл бұрын
@@Lordmewtwo151 yeahh that line is badass
@tommyfa
@tommyfa Жыл бұрын
Stockfish vs Stockfish with live analysis using a Stockfish be like: *Three Spidermans pointing at each other meme*
@yoavalon4306
@yoavalon4306 Жыл бұрын
I love how Levi doesn't really edit it and just does a one take and yet it comes out so good
@primeobjective5469
@primeobjective5469 Жыл бұрын
Stockfish played a perfect game SO WELL against itself, Black & White both checkmated each other.
@osamawaheed1200
@osamawaheed1200 Жыл бұрын
When Levy said, "You are 3000 points away from the best computer in the world", I felt it.
@GoldenMechaTiger
@GoldenMechaTiger Жыл бұрын
I'll have you know I'm 3200 away actually!
@itsakact
@itsakact Жыл бұрын
There’s gotta be a part two with bongcloud being one of the openings, I will beg to see that day come
@CewbPianist
@CewbPianist Жыл бұрын
yes bongcloud opening with engine
@XpVersusVista
@XpVersusVista Жыл бұрын
*double* bong cloud opening!
@Anxiou5Panda
@Anxiou5Panda Жыл бұрын
I can't imagine if those 2 Kings are suddenly at the center of the board that early.
@shail6878
@shail6878 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see the Bird's opening, personally
@crispinmcsticks
@crispinmcsticks Жыл бұрын
@@Anxiou5Panda just gonna be MonkaS in a mirror honestly.
@bedrock30_40
@bedrock30_40 Жыл бұрын
As a brand new chess player I'm so proud of myself for having actually recognized some of the potential plays in this game and why they were good/bad
@____GoMeZ____
@____GoMeZ____ Жыл бұрын
The most fascinating thing about these engines is how they have a sense of humor. They, on their own, troll their opponents in key moments. Great stuff, love these clips.
@hihtitmamnan
@hihtitmamnan 7 ай бұрын
delulu
@damionmaser1835
@damionmaser1835 Жыл бұрын
Anyone else want this to be turned into a series eventually containing all openings?
@ekki1993
@ekki1993 Жыл бұрын
Stockfish v Stockfish playing the bongcloud please
@chesspotato
@chesspotato Жыл бұрын
yep
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 Жыл бұрын
All openings? If we account for all 1-move openings, we get 400 openings already. Assuming 4 openings per video, that is 100 videos, which is pretty tough. With 2 move openings, the number increases very drastically. So, this is rather unrealistic.
@bmac3933
@bmac3933 Жыл бұрын
@@angelmendez-rivera351 I'm pretty sure he means the most common openings
@oscaranibalhernandez8590
@oscaranibalhernandez8590 7 ай бұрын
Stockfish vs Stockfish playing the cow opening
@shawncarter7188
@shawncarter7188 Жыл бұрын
Stockfish: I am the theory. Jim Lahey: I am the liquor.
@thesemicolonizer
@thesemicolonizer Жыл бұрын
Palpatine: I am the senate
@calook1334
@calook1334 Жыл бұрын
Walter White: I am the one who knocks
@BribeNestleSin
@BribeNestleSin Жыл бұрын
you win the comment section
@bakrom3734
@bakrom3734 Жыл бұрын
John Lennon - I am the walrus
@2006MC
@2006MC Жыл бұрын
I'm mowing the air!
@renmusic0360
@renmusic0360 Жыл бұрын
This is like me playing myself but everytime i switch sides after moving i laugh at the other opponent..... Which is myself
@gregorymorris4693
@gregorymorris4693 Жыл бұрын
Not you telling us the way you masturbate 🤣🤣🤣
@renmusic0360
@renmusic0360 Жыл бұрын
@@gregorymorris4693 HAHAHAH NOOO
@gregorymorris4693
@gregorymorris4693 Жыл бұрын
@@renmusic0360 🤣
@YanYan-zu8dc
@YanYan-zu8dc Жыл бұрын
The sheer emotion you put into this is amazing. I loved this.
@robinday8200
@robinday8200 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a stockfish vs stockfish but one of them with a depth level one less and see how much it matters.
@Wnyee
@Wnyee Жыл бұрын
It probably matters more than you think
@nebei3740
@nebei3740 Жыл бұрын
@@Wnyee depends on the depth on low depth the depth lvl matters a lot at higher depth not really it will still draw 99.9% of games
@marcelthiel1
@marcelthiel1 Жыл бұрын
15 vs 16 depth and 30 vs 31 to see some difference
@zBrain0
@zBrain0 Жыл бұрын
Or a time handicap?
@lmmstudios7584
@lmmstudios7584 Жыл бұрын
Humans after GM Stockfish playing the London: Humans: In the name of the International Chess Federation, you are under arrest, Stockfish GM Stockfish: Are you threatening me, Grandmasters? Humans: The theory will decide your fate. GM Stockfish: I AM the theory! Humans: Not yet. GM Stockfish: It‘s treason, then…
@Tarif2809
@Tarif2809 Жыл бұрын
Waht is treason
@albuspercivalwulfricbriand5363
@albuspercivalwulfricbriand5363 Жыл бұрын
@@Tarif2809 An act of betraying a government, or governors
@yessir6427
@yessir6427 Жыл бұрын
haha funy ha
@talphazero1036
@talphazero1036 Жыл бұрын
Did you make all this up, or is it a reference I just don't get?
@anglik3954
@anglik3954 Жыл бұрын
@@talphazero1036 Clearly, the latter. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKXEdpemetqCr6c
@ajjanetzke4078
@ajjanetzke4078 Жыл бұрын
Eric Hansen playing Stockfish: "Is this theory?" Stockfish: "I am the theory!"
@NuclearTurtle19
@NuclearTurtle19 Жыл бұрын
He earned my like when he randomly started talking about his glasses 😂 I’m brand new to chess, and I’m so glad this guy exists because his videos are informative AND fun. Bravo!
@ovidiusova1505
@ovidiusova1505 Жыл бұрын
I like how stockfish says +1.2 advantage in karo-kann after 2 moves at 8:43
@theoneandonlykk86
@theoneandonlykk86 Жыл бұрын
If you let it run a few seconds longer, it will evaluate it as +0.6, and the stronger Stockfish version as about +0.4, so it's actually not a bad opening. Even Stockfish needs some time to think, at least on an average laptop.
@Alsadius
@Alsadius Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see you play against Stockfish 15 with various handicaps, to see what it takes for you to beat it. 1) Start with queen odds, and increase the handicap until you win a game. 2) Then do a round where time control is the handicap - fight S15 with one one *milli*second per move, and see how that goes, maybe cut it further from there. (No time limits on your side, of course.) 3) Have a round with no handicap, but where you can switch sides with it once, and try to win from its side of the table. (No throwing pieces pre-switch, and no waiting until forced mate - try honestly, and then switch when you think it has a big enough advantage for you to win.) 4) And of course, for the control group, play against it without any handicaps at all.
@etholux4668
@etholux4668 Жыл бұрын
If you have a positional advantage against Stockfish 15, the engine will at least draw every game unless there is a forced checkmate, and it doesn't seem like a human could ever pull a forced checkmate situation out of a drawable position that Stockfish wouldn't see coming. If you start giving Stockfish time limits, you are just making it a worse engine, so you might as well play against the earlier versions.
@tristanrujano
@tristanrujano Жыл бұрын
Seeing that first game with the relative value of pieces actually taught me quite alot
@protopool
@protopool Жыл бұрын
the fact I got this reccomended to me once and started watching him constantly even tho I dont like chess is amazing, might be cuz it a nice change of pace
@Slacker420
@Slacker420 Жыл бұрын
“Yes, Stockfish 15 knows how to mate in the most efficient manner with the king and the rook. It takes 127 moves.” Im not impressed I can do it under 20
@Mathignihilcehk
@Mathignihilcehk Жыл бұрын
I count 30 moves.
@fatitankeris6327
@fatitankeris6327 Жыл бұрын
But what if the opponent opposes?
@Vulelijanci
@Vulelijanci Жыл бұрын
The fact that he put gm on both stock fishes is amazing.
@ulric9964
@ulric9964 Жыл бұрын
stockfish should have the title GGM for great grand master
@szarekhthesilent2047
@szarekhthesilent2047 Жыл бұрын
@@ulric9964 or just gg.
@thomasanthony7652
@thomasanthony7652 Жыл бұрын
Maybe UGM ultimate grandmaster
@frankjohnson123
@frankjohnson123 Жыл бұрын
GM is an insult to Stockfish
@perpetualbystander4516
@perpetualbystander4516 Жыл бұрын
Or what about TORM (The Only Real Master)? 😅
@LucianDevine
@LucianDevine Жыл бұрын
I find the perfect chess videos absolutely fascinating, seeing the lines they come up with, especially when they actually sac pieces. I'm also glad that we had at least 1 game that wasn't a draw. I understand why the draws happen, but it's nice to see an actual checkmate.
@dashvash5440
@dashvash5440 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see this as a series which goes through many openings.
@insaneman7854
@insaneman7854 Жыл бұрын
"u won't see any theory here, stockfish doesn't know any theory, because stockfish is the theory"
@sahebaparveen9492
@sahebaparveen9492 Жыл бұрын
25:43 rookb3 wins a queen Can you tell me why didn't he play that
@amayzingapple9199
@amayzingapple9199 Жыл бұрын
@@sahebaparveen9492 it's check
@mithrasmiles7352
@mithrasmiles7352 Жыл бұрын
Stockfish after the last game: I've withdrawn from the tournament. I've always enjoyed playing in the GothamChess engine games, and hope to be back in the future kzbin.info/www/bejne/j2nJmZaZdqihers
@akunspamku798
@akunspamku798 Жыл бұрын
lol
@ajirezamahendra9565
@ajirezamahendra9565 Жыл бұрын
Levy: "That's what Stockfish want" We: "Which Stockfish?"
@user-yb5if8kr3i
@user-yb5if8kr3i Жыл бұрын
Me: "wait, what kind of move this is?" Stockfish: "you don't seem to understand who you're talking to, so let me clarify: I'm not gonna use theory, I *am* the theory. I AM THE ONE WHO SACS"
@ryou8820
@ryou8820 Жыл бұрын
Humans : study theory for their whole life to get 0.1 advantages and to reach 2900 Gigachad engines: makes theory of their own
@thestockfishgirl2681
@thestockfishgirl2681 Жыл бұрын
Perfect chess? You mean Niemann against me?
@michaelbrantley6039
@michaelbrantley6039 Жыл бұрын
The game around 20:00 mark was insane how black opened the file directly in front of his castled king early on and white just never even got a chance to get over there and even give him a check or anything while hes wide open because of all the constant pressure on the queenside. Fascinating stuff
@kuzidas4213
@kuzidas4213 Жыл бұрын
It brings me so much joy that stockfish actually pulled a bongcloud move in a game against itself
@rakimali2501
@rakimali2501 Жыл бұрын
I love engine play. Tactics galore and there is always something to learn. Your commentary and discussion of the lines is also a huge part of this process so thank you.
@Asif24960
@Asif24960 Жыл бұрын
Imagine how strong AlphaZero would be today if the team decided they wanted it to remain the best engine in the world instead of using the technology to revolutionise medicine
@harnageaa
@harnageaa Жыл бұрын
i'd rather get a cure on cancer than better elo engine, just my 2 cents
@spiralfireball8663
@spiralfireball8663 Жыл бұрын
@@harnageaa For you? Ok.
@agarrikr2996
@agarrikr2996 Жыл бұрын
And even forgetting the logical aspect to how it contributes to society, AI will have reached a plateau. Technologies like Stockfish nowadays are way more succesfull at Chess, NNUE and neural network reaches better results overall. Now Alpha zero could have copied Stockfish the same way that the fish got Inspired by AZ, but it’ll be just what’s the better engine every new release, by a small margin and literally another stockfish with a different name.
@EnigmaChess
@EnigmaChess Жыл бұрын
it wouldn't be so great, Leela zero, essentially the same had to keep changing stuff and retraining, and its just a little weaker than stockfish, NN engines plateau
@rudellius
@rudellius Жыл бұрын
Stockfish owns it
@Politicalfan17
@Politicalfan17 Жыл бұрын
1:25 Stockfish “I am the Senate.”
@jacobdoyle8951
@jacobdoyle8951 Жыл бұрын
6:00 seems that computers are programed to see draws as a more viable option than humans
@billagap3213
@billagap3213 Жыл бұрын
The opening which is TOTALLY refuted in engine level i think is the French defense. Literally when an engine plays the French, is suffering from lack of space.
@besto5486
@besto5486 Жыл бұрын
The french and caro are esssensially the same in the end so i wouldn't say so. If Stockfish's new neural network can get as creative as Alphazero's was, you can probably see it drawing itself even in the bongcloud
@billagap3213
@billagap3213 Жыл бұрын
@@besto5486 well not the same exactly. In caro kann you get rid of the problematic bishop on c8. But you lose a tempo moving twice the c-pawn. In French you advance the c pawn once but you play without a bishop and you have a more cramped position. The engine (as white) takes advantage more of the French than the Caro i think.
@besto5486
@besto5486 Жыл бұрын
@@billagap3213 i said in the end because even though you have the French bishop, that doesn't end up being all that decisive and space really doesn't matter as much as it was belived to be, that's why i mentioned the creativeness of alphazero as it could work really well in the most crammed positions, the french just gives you a bad bishop not less space and you waste 2 tempos actually in the caro the other for moving the bishop so all in all, it should be relatively equal as well as resulting in very similar looking positions except the ultra aggressive lines in the French like the Winawer and Tarreacsh
@billagap3213
@billagap3213 Жыл бұрын
@@besto5486 But the caro is not yet refuted in engine level. Anyway this is all engine level. For us humans especially the lower rated ones everything is playable
@al_gusto
@al_gusto Жыл бұрын
@@besto5486 very unlikely that highly dubious openings like bong do not have a loss ratio of 80%+ the stronger the engine. If even a completely solid opening, which is the French, has already started to have relatively high percentages of defeat to be considered refuted. And stockfish has been using neural networks for quite some time, it's not just pure calculation.
@gagers78
@gagers78 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see some more of this especially with more sharp openings like the King's Indian, the grünfeld, sicilian dragon, the benoni, the two knights italian with Ng5 etc and gambits
@ramble21
@ramble21 Жыл бұрын
I unironically want to see if Stockfish 15 can beat Stockfish 8 with the bongcloud
@shubbyshabaas
@shubbyshabaas Жыл бұрын
It can
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 Жыл бұрын
Saying that it can is an absolutely huge understatement. I am pretty sure you can have Stockfish 15 play handicapped (like, a Knight down from the opening) and still defeat Stockfish 8.
@gianlucacheme8262
@gianlucacheme8262 Жыл бұрын
14:00 never see him with such a big smile after that castle move 😂😂
@nekoizmase9
@nekoizmase9 Жыл бұрын
If I am going to be honest with you, in my own humble opinion without being sentimental of course, without offending anyone who thinks differently from my own point of view, but also by looking into this matter in distinctive perspective, I would like to say I have nothing to say.
@fishdogmax6253
@fishdogmax6253 Жыл бұрын
Well said
@CampfireHeadphase
@CampfireHeadphase Жыл бұрын
I cant believe you actually just fucking said that
@kennyfa2874
@kennyfa2874 Жыл бұрын
Pin of pin
@tetie_
@tetie_ Жыл бұрын
Levy: This game was absolutely nuts, so if you had the *patience* to wait 16 minutes for this... Me: *Skips to **16:20*
@neerajgupta1068
@neerajgupta1068 Жыл бұрын
Dude tf vdo came out just 2 minutes ago
@xNick01
@xNick01 Жыл бұрын
He adds timestamps for a reason
@immortalgamer3960
@immortalgamer3960 Жыл бұрын
As someone who has only ever played chess casually with friends and knows basically nothing about Chess theory, it makes me feel good that we have the same favourite opening. :D
@kalipiana3880
@kalipiana3880 4 ай бұрын
stockfish also knows nothing about chess theory yet is the best chess player in the world !
@rbcdelta6561
@rbcdelta6561 Жыл бұрын
"Bwuahahaha!!" Super fascinating episode! The streamers are happy - both Levy's Caro and Rosen's London held up!! Thanks for the great content!
@johnzhou4877
@johnzhou4877 Жыл бұрын
I love this type of content. Engines games have some kind of unspeakable aesthetic. Watching these games with Levy's top tier commentary is pure joy. I want more of these 🥰🥰🥰
@matijabanjan3960
@matijabanjan3960 Жыл бұрын
Was expecting all the games to be drawn honestly, was nice to see a win actually 😁 Would also be cool to see a delayed c5 Caro variation 😁
@vxughn151
@vxughn151 Жыл бұрын
One thing I like the most about Levys videos is that its not just to spark my interest, the video ends and I’ve learned something
@Naturalwhite46
@Naturalwhite46 Жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say, just played my first offical league otb match tonight and won and wanted to thank you for all of your content as its been my main learning tool with tactics and openings. Thanks Levy! Keep up the amazing content :)
@ImOneOfThem23
@ImOneOfThem23 Жыл бұрын
Calling Stockfish a GM is insulting to Stockfish lol
@cuy8541
@cuy8541 Жыл бұрын
Why was I always hoping one of the sides would win over the other
@timwirshing9923
@timwirshing9923 Жыл бұрын
I never expected to sit through a 30 min chess video. Thoroughly enjoyed this. Thank you.
@Toshinben
@Toshinben Жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the game Darklight Conflict for the PS1. In the background, computers are stalemating against computers in an interstellar war.
@atzuras
@atzuras Жыл бұрын
Stockfish: I'm winning Stockfish: not yet, take my rook Stockfish: oh I miss that move.
@doggyw00f18
@doggyw00f18 Жыл бұрын
Stockfish is happy to play the nastiest, scariest, sharpest lines and keep track of all it's crazy pieces. I can't even play five aggressive moves without hanging my queen...
@johngleich1379
@johngleich1379 Жыл бұрын
This was really fun! I found some great follow-ups to my absolutely absurd (but apparently stockfish-like?!) moves!
@memoryfound9208
@memoryfound9208 Жыл бұрын
Like the hair! The descriptiveness is top notch, and interesting. This is why I enjoy your content; your way of explaining is both intriguing and entertaining!
@paulc1844
@paulc1844 Жыл бұрын
Love your vids gotham. Keep it up
@GatoCoolX
@GatoCoolX Жыл бұрын
0:01 we got em
@neXianXaviaX
@neXianXaviaX Жыл бұрын
When you feel like it give us a bunch of moves out the najdorf, I'm keen to see if they fall into similar patterns or if they do crazy defenses every time
@fahadalmaani3534
@fahadalmaani3534 Жыл бұрын
I started to play chess when I was 10 in 2012 and now when I started to take it to the next level your video's really change the way I think when I play, it is rely helpful
@sneakyonthebeat
@sneakyonthebeat Жыл бұрын
12:30 me: "I have a feeling King E2 is good here" 12:33: nice!
@adityadeshmukh4972
@adityadeshmukh4972 Жыл бұрын
Me: Stockfish you are playing the Theory Stockfish: I am the THEORY !!
@logansumner
@logansumner Жыл бұрын
This is awesome, I would love to see this with more openings! Perhaps some gambits?
@mitchellwenzel9608
@mitchellwenzel9608 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see Stockfish play the budapest gambit sometime! Great video as always Levy!
@pokaface564
@pokaface564 Жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see an older stockfish game (like stockfish 8) with analysis by stockfish 15
@addledanorak8297
@addledanorak8297 Жыл бұрын
some ideas for gambits you could try: 1. fried liver 2. blackmar-diemar 3. danish 4. king's gambit 5. evan's gambit 6. englund gambit and obviously, THE DOUBLE BONGCLOUD!!!
@benshums
@benshums Жыл бұрын
YES!
@Grason20
@Grason20 Жыл бұрын
My prediction: 1. draw 2.black wins 3. draw 4. Black wins 5. Draw 6. White wins Double bongcloud: draw
@addledanorak8297
@addledanorak8297 Жыл бұрын
@@Grason20 I think that white will win in the fried liver....
@Grason20
@Grason20 Жыл бұрын
@@addledanorak8297 i see... Different engines got different opinion about the game, and stockfish 14 gives the bar at ~+0.5
@shanastroskyphazer8172
@shanastroskyphazer8172 Жыл бұрын
This was awesome chess Levy Thanks !! nice glasses. Retro Futurism is always very sophisticated ! Love it !
@kaischmidt7973
@kaischmidt7973 Жыл бұрын
I thought the sinquifield cup ended yesterday :O but nice to see theres another round :) Thank you levy
@hyokina8276
@hyokina8276 Жыл бұрын
Hans "Chess speaks for itself" Niemann vs. Tigran "Pipi" Petrosian. Let's go!
@Metamine0
@Metamine0 Жыл бұрын
Yes please
@jrnstm7849
@jrnstm7849 Жыл бұрын
This chess really speaks for itself. Great game by Hans
@panzeratom695
@panzeratom695 Жыл бұрын
Everytime I stop playing for a little bit a video of yours pops up and I feel like I need to pick it back up
@fabiandargiewiczchess
@fabiandargiewiczchess 5 ай бұрын
Stockfish took "fight your inner demons"too seriously
@JSLigon
@JSLigon Жыл бұрын
The Caro Kann is definitely good enough to hold the draw in engine games. Either response to the advance variation is fine. I've spent a lot of time looking at engine analysis of various openings, and you have to get pretty crazy in the opening to reach a lost position. For example, if you play the Portuguese variation of the Scandinavian defense (1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Nf6 3. d4 Bg4) that's close to losing for black, but I think it still holds. The key there is that black needs to avoid 4. f3 Bf5 which is the main line and appears to be outright losing, and play 4... Bd7 instead. Another example I've analyzed with Stockfish: In the King's Gambit Accepted white can hold the draw, either with 3. Nf3 or 3. Bc4 and even 3. Qf3 might be good enough to survive. I'm not saying Stockfish wouldn't lose some games in normal time controls, I'm speaking more from a correspondence (with engine assistance) perspective.
@kbeeps141
@kbeeps141 Жыл бұрын
There needs to be an annual GCEC: Gotham Chess Engine Championship.
@anaseshmela8512
@anaseshmela8512 Жыл бұрын
U really did it !!! I was waiting for this video thx a lot!!!!
@NightwindArcher
@NightwindArcher Жыл бұрын
I love these engine videos. So incredible to see how chess is played at a level FAAARRRR beyond human ability. And as always your commentary is what really makes the video entertaining and enjoyable.
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