The Worst Chess Game Mathematically Possible

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@whynot5708
@whynot5708 Жыл бұрын
Ok very funny Levy, taking one of my chess games and calling it “ the worst possible chess game mathematically”
@spirosgoussis9717
@spirosgoussis9717 Жыл бұрын
really?
@captainvyom463
@captainvyom463 Жыл бұрын
​@@spirosgoussis9717 (real)
@Fck_the_atf
@Fck_the_atf Жыл бұрын
“Levi”
@aghilas2299
@aghilas2299 Жыл бұрын
I thought it was mine 😂😂
@wNiko.
@wNiko. Жыл бұрын
who is levi
@wsenay6717
@wsenay6717 Жыл бұрын
The mate in *27* with the three knights is the greatest thing stockfish has provided anyone ever
@paulvanzyl2385
@paulvanzyl2385 Жыл бұрын
you missed the mate in 50 at the end lol
@sethwooldridge9026
@sethwooldridge9026 11 ай бұрын
There's a mate in 40 15:17
@theseer2626
@theseer2626 11 ай бұрын
at 17:00 there is a frame with mate in 50 lol
@pawn4
@pawn4 11 ай бұрын
there was a mate in 9223372036854775807 moves
@pawn4
@pawn4 11 ай бұрын
@@theseer2626 16:50 too
@toby1248
@toby1248 4 ай бұрын
Some of these moves are so deep that not only do they blunder mate, they prevent the opponent from blundering mate too
@2complex43
@2complex43 2 ай бұрын
Time for "excellent" blunders
@BacsarugoCringeMaker
@BacsarugoCringeMaker Ай бұрын
Brilliant blunder
@_Gam3r
@_Gam3r Ай бұрын
uno reverse brilliant
@ghostcat5303
@ghostcat5303 Ай бұрын
'???'
@imkingnoobuwu4326
@imkingnoobuwu4326 17 күн бұрын
!!!??!!!!!​@@ghostcat5303
@BadlyDrawnJack
@BadlyDrawnJack 9 ай бұрын
15:14 The fact that the estimation bar found that this position was mate in 40 is astonishing.
@Tenshi122
@Tenshi122 8 ай бұрын
It's because after queen takes queen there are only 7 pieces left and stockfish probably had access to an endgame tablebase for 7 pieces.
@19o_19
@19o_19 6 ай бұрын
i was boutta comment this
@Roblox-Transportation
@Roblox-Transportation 5 ай бұрын
I was going to comment this!
@fawzanulhaque483
@fawzanulhaque483 3 ай бұрын
That mate is easy. Like you just need to take queen and all horses and then Queen mate hoping that it would not be draw by 50- move rule. Only if White played best move it would take 40 moves but no computer other than few can play best move for 40 moves straight.
@cryptar
@cryptar 2 ай бұрын
16:18 mate in 45
@user-ht1vg5we2p
@user-ht1vg5we2p 11 ай бұрын
Suggestion: since both engines are playing the worst moves based on standard evaluation, they are blundering mates but the opponent is not checkmating them. This is because they still evaluate under the assumption that, in the future, both will play the best moves. Instead, we could also change the evaluation algorithm, so that they do indeed assume both sides will always play the worst move possible. This way, instead of playing moves that make no progress for either side, they will actively be trying to lose, making moves that force their opponent to play something good. For example, a queen chasing a king around the board trying to force him to take her or other similar things would be hilarious
@bernhardbrodowsky3261
@bernhardbrodowsky3261 11 ай бұрын
Isn't that just a bot that's really good at anti chess then?
@itsArridian
@itsArridian 11 ай бұрын
This is beautiful. AN anti-chess wizard bot
@itsArridian
@itsArridian 11 ай бұрын
@@bernhardbrodowsky3261 But in anti-chess ALL captures are forced, in this that would not be the case
@rafaelgabrielgarlinidal-bo9496
@rafaelgabrielgarlinidal-bo9496 11 ай бұрын
not yet an anti chess bot tho. Captures are forced in anti, so the "stockfish" of anti chess has to set up the best forced capture chain for the opponent to be trapped in.
@trout3685
@trout3685 11 ай бұрын
That's what I was hoping for. I was wondering why white didn't say her queen with check and force black to take it.
@The_R3al_Spike
@The_R3al_Spike Жыл бұрын
A massive thanks to the eval bar for doing all that hard work
@davidthecommenter
@davidthecommenter Жыл бұрын
bro was doing pull ups
@mhmmmhmm3554
@mhmmmhmm3554 Жыл бұрын
@@davidthecommenter and squats
@seanstoltz6957
@seanstoltz6957 Жыл бұрын
Bro was doing a warm up bench at 500 lbs
@pinkshortcomedy
@pinkshortcomedy Жыл бұрын
yoo 669th like here
@Blinkers2007GameDev
@Blinkers2007GameDev Жыл бұрын
@@davidthecommenter muscle ups 20 in a row
@kjn3350
@kjn3350 7 ай бұрын
I like how this game actually looks more like an actual battle than a chess game, what with all the chaos and pawns in No-man's land, essentially sending the game full circle back to what it was originally trying to replicate.
@Spaizman
@Spaizman 4 ай бұрын
Battle of Verdun colorized
@Dexuz
@Dexuz 3 ай бұрын
Love me some actual battles where the king is completely surrounded by enemy troops.
@SubwaySurfer15
@SubwaySurfer15 2 ай бұрын
3 moves in and there’s checkmate😂
@user-br2ui4hy1f
@user-br2ui4hy1f 6 ай бұрын
Martin: finally, a worthy opponent
@Imjustaguy76510
@Imjustaguy76510 2 ай бұрын
Our battle will be legendary!
@TahaShakir2
@TahaShakir2 Ай бұрын
the only time/way martin can beat stockfich (technically he would be better since he has 250 elo and mathematically, the worst elo possible is 100)
@MistaOppritunity
@MistaOppritunity Жыл бұрын
My favorite part was when Levy said that he wasn't going to reiterate that this was the worst possible move every move then proceeded to reiterate that this was the worst possible move every move.
@FoxSlyme
@FoxSlyme 11 ай бұрын
I guess that was the worst possible move by Levy 😁
@Human..Being...
@Human..Being... 11 ай бұрын
When a chess game is that bad, it's hard to not mention it. At least it went faster than my chess games, at one move every 2 minutes.
@Some_Sandich
@Some_Sandich 10 ай бұрын
My favorite part was when he said it’s reiterating time and reiterated all over the place
@whirl
@whirl 10 ай бұрын
@@Some_Sandichambata-reiterate
@esatziyadonmez1291
@esatziyadonmez1291 6 ай бұрын
999th like
@enderking_13
@enderking_13 11 ай бұрын
Levy: * goes on a whole separate adventure making an entirely different game * Also levy:” *But that didn’t happen* “
@shadowplaxianthgaming3694
@shadowplaxianthgaming3694 11 ай бұрын
Bros pulling out an entire What If? episode on our asses on a chess video
@liam.28
@liam.28 9 ай бұрын
me watching the video following the moves when it gets set 20 moves back
@thebcwonder4850
@thebcwonder4850 9 ай бұрын
You should see his video on beating a cheater, bro pulled a Dr. Strange for every move he did during a blitz game
@formigant
@formigant 4 ай бұрын
i just paused the video to look at the comments and just when i unpaused he said it, fucking hilarious
@Taib-Atte
@Taib-Atte 6 ай бұрын
4:08 "RE-BLUNDERING checkmate" is crazy
@koyacrab
@koyacrab 24 күн бұрын
am i tripping or even black is blundering? black can take the white queen w its knight no?
@SG2048-meta
@SG2048-meta 23 күн бұрын
@@koyacrabit’s white’s turn. black could have taken the queen with the knight but didn’t so white could checkmate
@samthorne3765
@samthorne3765 8 ай бұрын
Took me until the very end of the video to figure out the premise that Stockfish was LITERALLY programmed to make the worst move possible!. Really wish you'd said it 140 more times so that I hadn't missed that :(
@EEEEEEEE
@EEEEEEEE 4 ай бұрын
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@B16Dominoes
@B16Dominoes 4 ай бұрын
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@Rocksbythethird
@Rocksbythethird 4 ай бұрын
E
@froxdoggaming3385
@froxdoggaming3385 4 ай бұрын
F
@Dexuz
@Dexuz 3 ай бұрын
:(
@Lakshya_Plays_Minecraft
@Lakshya_Plays_Minecraft Жыл бұрын
I can finally say i play like stockfish thank you gotham ❤️
@San-chifuyu_devrishi
@San-chifuyu_devrishi Жыл бұрын
Why aren't u continuing ur series on ur channel
@ajayshirode1630
@ajayshirode1630 Жыл бұрын
☠️☠️
@adhamsherif6230
@adhamsherif6230 Жыл бұрын
if anyone could actually play that bad they would be a fucking GM
@thehunterwr4666
@thehunterwr4666 Жыл бұрын
​@@Theindiananimefan681🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰
@maddoxmonteza
@maddoxmonteza Жыл бұрын
LMAO
@anomaliecosmos
@anomaliecosmos Жыл бұрын
"Re-blundering checkmate" is such a powerful phrase. And oddly perfectly describes my life
@probablypeenuts
@probablypeenuts 10 ай бұрын
270 likes and no comments? we can fix that
@plushiewolf222
@plushiewolf222 10 ай бұрын
lemme add more comments
@plushiewolf222
@plushiewolf222 10 ай бұрын
2nd
@probablypeenuts
@probablypeenuts 10 ай бұрын
more comments
@Xenek.
@Xenek. 10 ай бұрын
MORE!
@jezixthepro
@jezixthepro 2 ай бұрын
The spider at 14:30 was so important Levy had to stop talking about the 4 horses
@TahaShakir2
@TahaShakir2 Ай бұрын
bro had to divert his attention away from content, that's crazy
@tit0313
@tit0313 8 ай бұрын
The game graph must look like a heart attack
@acoolhotdog
@acoolhotdog Жыл бұрын
Imagine being a horsey, hearing that stockfish promoted to you 5 times, and realizing what actually happened
@FancyHalcyon
@FancyHalcyon Жыл бұрын
"There are 4 horses grazing on the outskirts of the farmland" really got me xD
@vexof-carter9203
@vexof-carter9203 Жыл бұрын
Lol apparently i just learned the weakest of the major pieces
@Murimz
@Murimz 11 ай бұрын
​@@vexof-carter9203 howd you just learn that its like the first thing one learns lmfao
@huh968
@huh968 11 ай бұрын
@@vexof-carter9203 depends, in closed games the bishop is the worst major piece
@diamante8864
@diamante8864 10 ай бұрын
The worst possible move :(
@Retribution5618
@Retribution5618 Жыл бұрын
16:56 stockfish calculating and seeing a mate in 50, and also there being an -87 point advantage is just incredible.
@dripcolors8756
@dripcolors8756 Жыл бұрын
yea, I love it when if black lost 87 pawns, it would've been a draw.
@drenz1523
@drenz1523 Жыл бұрын
"mate in 50" mfs when 50 move rule
@looming_lawsuit
@looming_lawsuit Жыл бұрын
​@@drenz1523 bro doesn't know how 50 move rule works
@Imaha
@Imaha Жыл бұрын
well actually, with 7 or less pieces on the board its mathmatically solved so stockfish just has to check the database and run the position, that means and position with 7 or less pieces has been solved including this one and it just memorizes the forced mates.
@drenz1523
@drenz1523 Жыл бұрын
@@Imaha fun fact stockfish sometimes doesnt actually check the database
@Roblox-Transportation
@Roblox-Transportation 5 ай бұрын
16:10 The fact that a 87 ADVANTAGE even exists is CRAZY!
@Imjustaguy76510
@Imjustaguy76510 2 ай бұрын
Me playing any EA made game without donate and my enemy (who donated) goes like :87 ADVANTAGE
@TahaShakir2
@TahaShakir2 Ай бұрын
Ive had a 112 advantage once XD
@Roblox-Transportation
@Roblox-Transportation Ай бұрын
@@TahaShakir2 wat.
@goldencheeze
@goldencheeze 8 ай бұрын
Chess, but it’s a cold war and nobody actually wants to fight each other, and everybody has an obsession with horses
@unb3lievable
@unb3lievable 11 ай бұрын
Imagine looking at the game review and seeing you had 100 blunders
@mattgarcia7513
@mattgarcia7513 11 ай бұрын
45 inaccuracies, 71 mistakes, 100 blunders, 23 missed wins, 3 misdemeanors and a felony
@HC-jo7lq
@HC-jo7lq 11 ай бұрын
@@mattgarcia7513 don’t forget the 3 war crimes
@joefawcett2191
@joefawcett2191 11 ай бұрын
@@WarriorOfAIIah wtf dude
@thatdude9091
@thatdude9091 11 ай бұрын
@@Greatness202 8,000,000 civilian deaths 1000,000,000 acres of farmland salted and burnt 80% of freshwater supplies poisoned
@S.sChaeos
@S.sChaeos 10 ай бұрын
​@thatdude9091 OK sir, are you gonna start the Fourth Reich? Can I join?
@aakarshdeepak31
@aakarshdeepak31 Жыл бұрын
Petition to start an anti chess championship
@rage2904
@rage2904 Жыл бұрын
Antichess is already a variant on Lichess. The premise is that if you CAN capture you MUST capture. First player to run out of moves wins.
@snoozy04
@snoozy04 Жыл бұрын
😀
@emiel04
@emiel04 Жыл бұрын
@@rage2904 well then we call it something else
@jbarnes6570
@jbarnes6570 Жыл бұрын
chess needs a version where you gain points for losing each piece and you win by getting checkmated
@JigsawLV
@JigsawLV Жыл бұрын
As a kid I used to play poddavki with my father, it was basically anti-checkers, trying to be first to give all the pieces away
@athalean
@athalean Ай бұрын
The actual game is the intense ping-pong match that's going on in the evaluation bar.
@FryanGosling
@FryanGosling 8 ай бұрын
Martin will still find a way to fumble this one.
@adodge2
@adodge2 11 ай бұрын
Would be interesting to find the worst possible move, knowing that the opponent was also trying to find the worst possible move. So, not just moves that hang pieces, but moves that force the opponent to make good moves. That would actually be anti-chess, and might even be an interesting game.
@jajajjajajjajjajajajaja
@jajajjajajjajjajajajaja 11 ай бұрын
"anti-chess" I LOVE THAT CONCEPT
@whoknows1520
@whoknows1520 10 ай бұрын
@@jajajjajajjajjajajajaja it's an actual game mode that exists, not just a concept
@rohangeorge712
@rohangeorge712 9 ай бұрын
trying to force ur other opponent to checkmate you lmao, and a draw remains a draw. thats actually so funny
@aashd9245
@aashd9245 8 ай бұрын
​@@whoknows1520r/woooosh
@gulgaffel
@gulgaffel 8 ай бұрын
​@@aashd9245get out.
@peytonwilliams3113
@peytonwilliams3113 Жыл бұрын
It's ultra-surprising that the "worst move" was sometimes to take a piece. It seems like just any waiting move would generally be worse than winning material.
@MikeJones-vk3wz
@MikeJones-vk3wz Жыл бұрын
a lot of those cases involved hanging a more valuable piece in the process. Like using a queen to capture a defended pawn.
@shadowmil
@shadowmil Жыл бұрын
You will eventually run out of waiting moves.
@Raugturi
@Raugturi Жыл бұрын
It's because it isn't just purely the "worst move" in a vacuum. It's the "worst move given the assumption (which is incorrect in this case) that your opponent will play their best move". If you programmed it to anticipate the opponent doing the same thing then it would find a different set of worst moves, since it would want to favor outcomes that limit the opponent's bad moves. That would probably involve a lot more waiting moves rather than taking pieces.
@finnfreudenberg5568
@finnfreudenberg5568 Жыл бұрын
There are multiple worst moves sometimes, in case the enemy has mate in 1. In these cases it's quite likely a random worst move gets chosen which can also be taking a piece since it doesn't make a difference for stockfish.
@adolfflopper8577
@adolfflopper8577 Жыл бұрын
It werent actually the worst moves, because most of taking was made when both sides were hanging M1, so it didnt really matter what move will the stockfish make as long as it will still be M1.
@kazii_the_avali
@kazii_the_avali 7 ай бұрын
i would love a worstfish+martin vs worstfish+martin each one taking turns playing a move.
@Micha-Hil
@Micha-Hil 8 ай бұрын
this is like a slide whistle going back and forth
@Skeletonizer1200
@Skeletonizer1200 Жыл бұрын
You should do one where you force stockfish at its highest to play 10 worst possible moves and then try to win.
@PMA65537
@PMA65537 Жыл бұрын
They'd call it Magnusfish.
@truetex8398
@truetex8398 Жыл бұрын
If you play the worst possible moves against a normal opponent you are checkmated in 2 moves
@ardaehi
@ardaehi Жыл бұрын
any player can win against worstfish in 3 moves since it enables you to make fools mate
@fR33Sky
@fR33Sky Жыл бұрын
I say we post Magnus-Stockfish under each and every video until it happens!
@1.4142
@1.4142 Жыл бұрын
It would be fools mate
@vitaly5297
@vitaly5297 Жыл бұрын
Petition to make a second version of the worst game possible, but both sides must play the worst move that doesn’t blunder a forced checkmate
@MarcelAndrian
@MarcelAndrian Жыл бұрын
second worst move
@janogruby1086
@janogruby1086 Жыл бұрын
it would just be a draw
@Idk-hg8jr
@Idk-hg8jr Жыл бұрын
@@janogruby1086 chess, when played perfectly, ends in a draw
@sqrti8825
@sqrti8825 Жыл бұрын
'Worst moves that don't blunder a mate' is synonymous to 'best moves', provided that chess is a draw with best play.
@vitovitovito4927
@vitovitovito4927 Жыл бұрын
​@@sqrti8825 they are talking about making the worst moves that don't show a "M" in the eval
@__8120
@__8120 8 ай бұрын
The fact that you didn't show the eval graph for this match is absolutely criminal
@polarperson
@polarperson 7 ай бұрын
Take a shot every time he says "literally"
@poto744
@poto744 Жыл бұрын
I swear it's hilarious to just see the bar change from whos winning just change every single move
@devdecker7812
@devdecker7812 Жыл бұрын
That happens in normal games too! I’ve seen some wacky back and forth bars lol
@aspect359
@aspect359 Жыл бұрын
@@devdecker7812 skill issue
@devdecker7812
@devdecker7812 Жыл бұрын
@@aspect359 not gonna happen as much with people though, stockfish is a computer and you can guarantee each move will do that if it’s programmed to
@devdecker7812
@devdecker7812 Жыл бұрын
@@aspect359 I’m rated 712 and still going up I’m not too bad better than the average person right now
@arneshpal7702
@arneshpal7702 Жыл бұрын
​@@devdecker7812 skill issue
@RizaBochiza
@RizaBochiza 11 ай бұрын
12:18 Can we take a moment to appreciate how all of the pieces are avoiding the centre of the board like the plague?
@runic3063
@runic3063 11 ай бұрын
Meanwhile that one pawn on d3:
@ezracohen6020
@ezracohen6020 11 ай бұрын
@@runic3063 who do you think has the plague, they are avoiding that pawn for a reason
@SaculxYT
@SaculxYT 10 ай бұрын
15:19 mate in 40
@The-Person-Who-Asked
@The-Person-Who-Asked 10 ай бұрын
even more so at 14:30
@wasifchowdhury2004
@wasifchowdhury2004 10 ай бұрын
The opposite of "try to control the center"
@WesAndRuss
@WesAndRuss 8 ай бұрын
They should do a tournament of this. Worst average centipawn loss per turn wins until a set number of turns has passed, and they play known openings to make the games different (openings don’t count towards score)
@migueldias9651
@migueldias9651 8 ай бұрын
Interestingly, it always plays the worst move considering an opponent who plays to win, like how it takes pieces to allow checkmate when the opponent won't even play it. I wonder if it's possible to program or modificate an engine to play for a loss against another one who plays for a loss, that would be insane to watch
@samtheman123
@samtheman123 Жыл бұрын
The fact that it makes plans to set up making the worst possible moves is actually impressive
@lukasg4807
@lukasg4807 11 ай бұрын
It doesn't seem to know the opponent wants the same thing though. It should play to force the opponent to take its queen
@joefawcett2191
@joefawcett2191 11 ай бұрын
@@lukasg4807 would literally take an entire reprogramming of everything thats been done so far
@user-dh8oi2mk4f
@user-dh8oi2mk4f 9 ай бұрын
@@joefawcett2191 Not necessarily. If you negate all leaf values from the search(i.e. a mate in the future gets counted as a loss, being mated counts as a win, winning a queen is losing, etc.) then all you really need to change is the evaluation function.
@vaclavjebavy5118
@vaclavjebavy5118 9 ай бұрын
jokes on you I set that up without even trying
@the_cheese_cultist
@the_cheese_cultist 9 ай бұрын
​@@joefawcett2191you literally just need to negate the evaluation function.
@Rizller69
@Rizller69 Жыл бұрын
14:31 Levy can commentate a chess game and notice there’s a spider on the wall at the same time thats just how good he is
@thewierdragonbaby4843
@thewierdragonbaby4843 Жыл бұрын
lol
@flamedheat
@flamedheat Жыл бұрын
levy
@egorzhdanov6145
@egorzhdanov6145 11 ай бұрын
Meanwhile me in the same situation: お前はもう死んでいる。 Spider: 何?
@whannabi
@whannabi 11 ай бұрын
​@@egorzhdanov6145 why are you writing in Japanese here bud'
@egorzhdanov6145
@egorzhdanov6145 11 ай бұрын
@@whannabi Transcription: [omai wa mō shinde ru] [nani] Translation: - You already dead. - What?
@ginger-ale7818
@ginger-ale7818 Ай бұрын
This is some top tier “in order to get a zero you had to have known all the answers” stuff.
@obnoxas
@obnoxas 4 ай бұрын
I did not consider how painful this would be to watch. This is art.
@GregorDWScott
@GregorDWScott Жыл бұрын
I wonder how the calculations would change if Stockfish knew the opponent would try to play the worst move too. Like hanging your Queen is bad, but if you know the opponent isn't going to take it then is there a worse move?
@e-cap1239
@e-cap1239 Жыл бұрын
The strategy would be to get into a position where you force the enemy king to capture your pieces
@mcd4984
@mcd4984 Жыл бұрын
I thought about that too, moves like Qxb5+ at 6:43 are probably the worst since they force the queen to be lost
@19reficul
@19reficul Жыл бұрын
**HORSE FIESTA INTENSIFIES**
@asj3419
@asj3419 Жыл бұрын
Conceptually, making stockfish do this would be very easy, just take the evaluation function (which gets the advantage score for each board) and just add a minus sign so that it just negates the score it gets. Because the same function is used for both stockfish and its opponent, this would mean that it should also simulate the opponent wanting to do the worst possible move. This honesty sounds like the easiest way to properly make a bad version of stockfish. (There is probably more to it than that, though) We do not know exactly what was done to stockfish in the submitted game (it having solved any version of chess is clickbait), a bad-at-being-worst version would be if it just picked the worst evaluated move from a normal version of stockfish. If a move is evidently bad enough right-of-the-bat, normal stockfish would just stop looking through how a opponent could respond, meaning it wouldn't actually know which one of the worst moves is actually the worst one.
@hanjiplayer
@hanjiplayer Жыл бұрын
If this game was programmed by reversing minimax into maximin, stocktish does know the opponent will try to play the worst move. I dont think it was however, it looks like he took the list of moves stockfish generated from a standard minimax or negemax algorithm and just picked the worst one
@1e1001
@1e1001 11 ай бұрын
bar on the left became a turn indicator
@Sivaramachandran971
@Sivaramachandran971 Ай бұрын
😂
@LiteraIIy_Nobody
@LiteraIIy_Nobody 20 күн бұрын
I find it interesting that a capture would be the worst possible move this often. I know that there are many positions where capturing would be the worst move, but I had no idea that it would come up this often.
@elliotloranger437
@elliotloranger437 8 ай бұрын
I love how the endgame devolved into "Three Blind Knights."
@qazzaqstan
@qazzaqstan Жыл бұрын
The 5:00 is one of the more interesting parts of the game imo. With the queen already hanging the absolute worst thing to do is entomb your own pieces so they cannot join in the attack on the king, while weakening your light squares to ensure the king has the maximum number of escape routes. It is weirdly instructional in a way.
@midn8588
@midn8588 Жыл бұрын
I also find it funny how in the lategame, it found promoting to a knight to be frequently one of the worst moves since it removes your ability to promote to a queen
@sacul7766
@sacul7766 11 ай бұрын
I like the part when Levi explains that stockfish is playing the worst possible move instead of the best possible move
@SomeRandomDude821
@SomeRandomDude821 9 ай бұрын
LITERALLY the worst possible move
@lunatheluma3804
@lunatheluma3804 8 ай бұрын
Im unclear, is stockfish playin the best possible move here? Video should make it obvious
@matturban9077
@matturban9077 8 ай бұрын
I like the part where he shows the next 13 moves each side can make after every single move
@thibaud1832
@thibaud1832 3 ай бұрын
I had Mythbusters flashback.
@vendorfrostblood5481
@vendorfrostblood5481 7 ай бұрын
10:04 - eval bar be like: "YEET"
@Jordan-ud4qv
@Jordan-ud4qv 2 ай бұрын
6:43 is a perfect example of worstfish’s flaws. If it was a person who knew they were playing a bot told to loose and they wanted to play the move that would end with themselves in a worse position they would take b4 with the queen and force the king or bishop to take it
@BrooksMoses
@BrooksMoses 2 ай бұрын
Yes! It's playing for the position that it's hardest to win from, rather than the position that it's easiest to force a loss from.
@dry90125
@dry90125 Жыл бұрын
Seeing the 3 knights lined up was possibly the most cursed chess thing I’ve ever seen in my life
@Animation_neo
@Animation_neo 4 ай бұрын
5
@themarushin
@themarushin Жыл бұрын
Levy should show the "analyze stats" at the end to see the accuracy and the number of bad and worst moves done
@averyb4250
@averyb4250 Жыл бұрын
Mistakes and blunders?
@condude2464
@condude2464 Жыл бұрын
"102 blunders"
@soogers
@soogers Жыл бұрын
Coach Bizarre Game - You and your Opponent are total scumbags, Both of you should get one braincell.
@Pantopam
@Pantopam Жыл бұрын
The accuracy will probably be a face. Know that episode in the "How to lose at chess" playlist? 😂
@MohitKumar-dn1pm
@MohitKumar-dn1pm 6 ай бұрын
Mathematically, White played better.
@5thearth
@5thearth 8 ай бұрын
I could see this being a fun human game, where each player adds up their advantage/disadvantage for each move over the course of a set number of moves, and whoever has the cumulative worst total at the end wins.
@decubing3111
@decubing3111 Жыл бұрын
This is an interesting idea but it would be better if stockfish could calculate knowing the opponent will choose the worst move himself!
@Dan42069
@Dan42069 Жыл бұрын
This is what I was thinking!
@cthonianmessiah
@cthonianmessiah Жыл бұрын
Agreed, I think that the game would look quite different if both sides were trying to prevent the opponent from having any losing moves.
@stealthemoon8899
@stealthemoon8899 Жыл бұрын
Ooh
@MyNameIsEarl-os7hg
@MyNameIsEarl-os7hg Жыл бұрын
I had the same idea but you explained it better than me. I was thinking to make it play to try to force the opponent to win with checkmate, if that's even possible
@ashwinnaidoo796
@ashwinnaidoo796 Жыл бұрын
Yes there were times where white could force the black king to take it and same with the black Queen and white king
@avroarrow1528
@avroarrow1528 11 ай бұрын
I’m sadistically wondering if you did this with mismatched engines what would happen. Would the stronger engine succeed in losing more efficiently?
@inviikai2694
@inviikai2694 5 ай бұрын
Dang it now I wanna know too
@WhoTookQuwhu
@WhoTookQuwhu 2 ай бұрын
Anything that isn't worstfish regardless of it's ELO strength would win
@rickshermantal5002
@rickshermantal5002 8 ай бұрын
The engine calculates mate in 40 moves at 15.20 lmao
@edmondwentzel482
@edmondwentzel482 7 ай бұрын
It is interesting how all the pieces avoid the center proving it is where you want to be.
@JackBond1234
@JackBond1234 11 ай бұрын
I'd like to see an AI that chooses the most losing move with the assumption that the opponent is trying to lose first. They'd probably find ways to compel the opponent to mate them, such as by checking the opponent where their only valid move is to mate back
@EEEEEEEE
@EEEEEEEE 4 ай бұрын
E
@stephanedegremont4961
@stephanedegremont4961 3 ай бұрын
Or they would play the longest game ever (assuming that they would avoid position repetition)
@UpperChores
@UpperChores Жыл бұрын
16:19 connect 3 knight variation, first time to ever happen POG
@thedonnie6248
@thedonnie6248 9 ай бұрын
Listening to this for the first time high out of my mind, incredible experience
@adamaviation6236
@adamaviation6236 8 ай бұрын
"Not like that, not like.. that"
@bgfancommunity
@bgfancommunity Жыл бұрын
MrBeast: Finally a worthy opponent
@Aurelius_Imperator
@Aurelius_Imperator Жыл бұрын
😂
@jeffreybezos7765
@jeffreybezos7765 Жыл бұрын
Dang
@LedionZogaj
@LedionZogaj Жыл бұрын
Lol
@poetrywithbennit
@poetrywithbennit Жыл бұрын
True
@alextersaOnTwitch
@alextersaOnTwitch Жыл бұрын
Why you everywhere
@freyamiles3718
@freyamiles3718 11 ай бұрын
"I'm not going to remind you every turn it's playing the worst move possible every turn" proceeds to do it every over turn
@reshuram4353
@reshuram4353 7 ай бұрын
well he technically wasn't lying; he did indeed not do it every turn
@dogeatburrito
@dogeatburrito 8 ай бұрын
“i’m not gonna keep saying this is the worst move” (proceeds to say it’s the worst move every other move)
@krugerstan
@krugerstan Ай бұрын
It really wasn't 100% clear, but I kept getting hints that the engine was programmed to play the worst possible move.
@nunyabusiness9699
@nunyabusiness9699 Жыл бұрын
This should be a part of game review along with Great moves and Brilliant moves, like a triple question mark that says you played the worst possible move in that position.
@davidthecommenter
@davidthecommenter Жыл бұрын
(?!?) Throw
@Shilpa_Kujur
@Shilpa_Kujur Жыл бұрын
Ever heard of a.......blunder?
@boaz5898
@boaz5898 Жыл бұрын
@@Shilpa_Kujur not every blunder is the worst possible move he’s saying a blunder so bad you couldn’t make a move that was worse
@Shilpa_Kujur
@Shilpa_Kujur Жыл бұрын
@@boaz5898 That I get, but the triple question mark is literally the symbol of a blunder.
@baboolcha3330
@baboolcha3330 Жыл бұрын
​@@Shilpa_Kujur no, the symbol of blunder is double question mark
@amitgalor
@amitgalor Жыл бұрын
I think it can be even better: Currently it chooses the move that gives the opponent the biggest advantage, but the advantage is calculated given the opponent's best move. We should program stockfish to choose the worst move given that the opponent *also* plays the worst move. e.g. a great move would be to *force* the opponent to take a piece or get closer to mating you.
@lightlysal
@lightlysal Жыл бұрын
Antichess is already a thing, and I hear it's already been solved
@TheSGod
@TheSGod Жыл бұрын
@@lightlysal is there any videos on antichess
@yetischwein
@yetischwein Жыл бұрын
@@lightlysal This is not the same as antichess. Because in antichess capturing is compulsory and there are a few more special rules.
@lightlysal
@lightlysal Жыл бұрын
@@yetischwein oh u right u right
@MagyarGaben
@MagyarGaben 8 ай бұрын
Finally Stockfish - "Your grandpa playing with you at the park when you were five" edition
@bleack8701
@bleack8701 8 ай бұрын
When both players are threatened to lose the game "or else"
@pride1069
@pride1069 Жыл бұрын
I was really hoping you were going to show the M39 with the 3 knights lol
@noped3079
@noped3079 Жыл бұрын
27*
@kazuro3949
@kazuro3949 Жыл бұрын
i wanted to see the mate in 40
@StraightEdgeZap
@StraightEdgeZap Жыл бұрын
my engine showed m28 as follows: 1. kxf3 kb4 2. nc2+ kc5 3. nc7 kd6 4. nde6 ke5 5. ne3 kf6 6. ke4 kg6 7. ncd5 kf7 8. kf5 ke8 9. ke5 kd7 10. ndc7 kc6 11. ned5 kd7 12. nd4 kc8 13. kd6 kb8 14. kc6 kc8 15. nde6 kb8 16. nb6 ka7 17. nc5 kb8 18. n5a6+ ka7 19. nc8# the checkmate position is with the knights on a6, c7, and c8, white king on c6, black king on a7
@memeisneed
@memeisneed Жыл бұрын
@@StraightEdgeZap 🤓
@dhruvacharya-wx4bj
@dhruvacharya-wx4bj Жыл бұрын
@@StraightEdgeZap thanks this changed my life
@joep2999
@joep2999 11 ай бұрын
There should be another edition of this where stockfish knows the opponent is going to pick the worst response, and picks the worst move with that in mind. Instead of attempting to blunder the game assuming the opponent is going to be reasonable, each side will be trying to force the opponent to win against their will.
@isaacbrown1119
@isaacbrown1119 8 ай бұрын
A position from this game would make a HILARIOUS april fools daily puzzle.
@Spiderhog6
@Spiderhog6 5 ай бұрын
I am so glad I decided to watch this, haven't had a laugh that good in ages
@10kirneh
@10kirneh Жыл бұрын
Take a shot every time Levy reminds us that the engines are playing the worst possible moves.
@gab___.
@gab___. Жыл бұрын
ahsjssks,,slla,s.ospa;
@DarkGamer-sx7gp
@DarkGamer-sx7gp Жыл бұрын
I’m a child 😐
@chloesmith4065
@chloesmith4065 Жыл бұрын
Not trying to die of alcohol poisoning tonight!
@just-swichi
@just-swichi Жыл бұрын
Levy: I'm not gonna remind you that stockfish will play the worst possible move Also Levy after every move : bEcAuSe iT's PrOhRaMeD tO pLaY tHe WoRsT pOsSiBlE mOvE
@TristanSune
@TristanSune Жыл бұрын
His commentary made this video unbearable
@keyrobeats7617
@keyrobeats7617 8 ай бұрын
The bar is a rollercoaster
@lightningfirst689
@lightningfirst689 2 ай бұрын
4:30 In a meta sort of way, an even worse move would be Qd4+. The only legal response is to take the queen, so it guarantees you lose your queen. But you would only think of that if you weren't going purely by the evaluation the way a computer does, but also taking account of the fact that your opponent will avoid giving themselves an advantage as long as it's legal to do so.
@Orrinn123
@Orrinn123 Жыл бұрын
It would be really cool to see if the objective was TO LOSE and not to just make the worst move each move. That way Stockfish would find a way to force the opponent to take his pieces and possibly even a way to force the opponent to checkmate. Would be interesting
@benjamintwombley1193
@benjamintwombley1193 Жыл бұрын
Another great example of how chess played perfectly is a draw.
@TheChosenOne20100
@TheChosenOne20100 11 ай бұрын
But white got checkmated wdym...
@lzk4891
@lzk4891 11 ай бұрын
@@TheChosenOne20100 the bots were programmed to end the game in endgame so that a draw doesnt happen
@benjamintwombley1193
@benjamintwombley1193 11 ай бұрын
@@TheChosenOne20100 yes but he said that if they continued to play the worst moves it would be adraw obviously
@emmettdja
@emmettdja 8 ай бұрын
technically the worst possible move would be a sequence of moves, bringing your queen out early and then proceeding to sacrifice it forcefully against the opponents king.
@BrooksMoses
@BrooksMoses 2 ай бұрын
That depends on your definition of "worst possible move", though -- and here, it's defined as the move that makes it hardest for you to win, not the move that makes it easiest for you to force a loss. What you suggest is a sequence of moves, not a single move -- and none of the moves that make up that sequence is, by itself, the worst possible move.
@emmettdja
@emmettdja 2 ай бұрын
@@BrooksMoses that would be like saying the best possible move in chess is to take the piece on the board with highest value, only looking one move ahead. it is not optimal in all cases.
@cool-128
@cool-128 Ай бұрын
14:32 you not gonna just stop by without saying "Hi, Mr. Wally Wallspider!"?
@hendrikjung1053
@hendrikjung1053 Жыл бұрын
15:14 can we just talk about the stockfish normal version found a mate in 40 for black?
@Mea175
@Mea175 Жыл бұрын
Dam 🦫
@mrredman744
@mrredman744 11 ай бұрын
I’m already dying after the queen tries to hang itself but black just moves it’s king all throughout the center 😂
@pangboi3453
@pangboi3453 6 ай бұрын
6:04 theres also a mate in 2 if king moves to the wrong spot, bishop f1 if king C5 pawn d4/b4 is checkmate
@cantmakeaname2689
@cantmakeaname2689 2 ай бұрын
8:36 The fact that Levy can call every position with the pieces and with extreme accuracy it’s fascinating. If you watch a bit after that he does it all again but faster. My god this man is disciplined.
@Neutral.Mapping
@Neutral.Mapping Жыл бұрын
9:05 Everybody saw this line. Levy is the kind of person who thinks everyone is a GM
@Dolphan.
@Dolphan. Жыл бұрын
Gothamchess watchers trying not to think there genius (impossible)
@moonfade7651
@moonfade7651 Жыл бұрын
Are we not GM's?
@GeorgeDCowley
@GeorgeDCowley Жыл бұрын
But thinks we didn't see the other mates.
@echoonyoutube
@echoonyoutube Жыл бұрын
Grand minors
@TylerMarkRichardson
@TylerMarkRichardson 11 ай бұрын
​@@echoonyoutube grooms minors
@AbsoluteGaming_
@AbsoluteGaming_ Жыл бұрын
9:11 bro think's he's hikaru💀
@joshuaford9714
@joshuaford9714 8 ай бұрын
“Who’s there!? I’ve got a queen, and I’m not afraid to hang myself!”
@kaelynnchia9110
@kaelynnchia9110 7 ай бұрын
"Oh, there's a spider on on my wall...ON THE OUTSKIRTS..."
@SkimLuca
@SkimLuca Жыл бұрын
It would be even more interesting if they both stockfish know that the opponent will play the worst move (it doesn't seem like that now, for example in the opening Qe1 with the intent of Qh4 to lose the queen wouldn't make sense)
@pinadesecada2585
@pinadesecada2585 Жыл бұрын
I though this would be the rule
@jake8217
@jake8217 Жыл бұрын
​@@pinadesecada2585 That's impossible.
@dasMoschustier
@dasMoschustier Жыл бұрын
@@jake8217 It's not impossible. Although it would not change a whole lot.
@Acc-nt5dp
@Acc-nt5dp Жыл бұрын
​@@dasMoschustierit would actually change a lot
@jake8217
@jake8217 Жыл бұрын
@@dasMoschustier impossible in the sense that "play the worst move possible on each turn" with the goal of "losing the game" is not compatible. In this video, they just had to play the objectively worst move on each turn, they weren't trying to lose. Otherwise it is like saying, I am trying to reach somewhere by walking away from there.
@ZinWolff
@ZinWolff Жыл бұрын
I love how Levi skill-fully ignores how much of an existential crisis the eval is having.
@jnmarshmello2728
@jnmarshmello2728 8 ай бұрын
In a high level game the eval bar is unmoving, in this it is like banging a child against 2 walls
@Faunarr
@Faunarr 7 ай бұрын
@@jnmarshmello2728 why would you bang a child?
@yanneldor
@yanneldor 9 ай бұрын
I thought for a second for sure it was a 200 vs 200 elo
@amirulmh6057
@amirulmh6057 9 ай бұрын
At this point stockfish is not playing chess but ping pong
@nathanprice7596
@nathanprice7596 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been wondering about this for so long. It seems like ability to checkmate was inversely proportional to material advantage. In the beginning black was hanging mate over and over, but when white took some pieces it started to be the other way around.
@qazarqaz4509
@qazarqaz4509 Жыл бұрын
Yeah. I found this pattern too and now I give away at least 2 pieces before move 15.
@lukasoliverleo3730
@lukasoliverleo3730 8 ай бұрын
I'd be interested in a match of "least helpful moves" As in: both sides choose moves that increase their chance by as little as possible
@Demonz2000
@Demonz2000 8 ай бұрын
I like how in the end, stockfish was suggesting mates in 45s and 50s 💀
@Nick-md4uv
@Nick-md4uv Жыл бұрын
17:07 should’ve played Qe6 stalemate if stockfish was doing the worst moves
@Angry5704
@Angry5704 Жыл бұрын
I've not laughed myself to crying very many times, but this is potentially the most aggressive instance of it I've ever had.
@denciobtw7992
@denciobtw7992 Жыл бұрын
Same
@hans1783
@hans1783 8 ай бұрын
That queen is screaming, "TAKE ME!!!"
@shadtowa8986
@shadtowa8986 9 ай бұрын
Dang it really wanted to see mate with all those knights.
@todthesushimonster1256
@todthesushimonster1256 Жыл бұрын
Can anyone find the M40 at 15:23? lol
@Astr7lNG
@Astr7lNG 9 ай бұрын
1.e4 2.e4 3.e4 dementia moment
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