Stoeger Double Defense Review

[@RickNethery]

I wish the defensive model break actions would incorporate auto ejectors.

[@OreGear]

Agreed

[@1nfamyX]

Same, and make side by side orientations not just O/U.

[@habibifather7681]

And not put the safety back on every time you close it.

[@jtns2845]

why my bump in the night shotgun is a h&r, 20ga, 20” single. with autoejector it can be run real fast. added a recoil pad and a buttstock ammo holder. loaded with #5 gameshot.

[@RickNethery]

@jtns2845 If you get good with one of those, you can actually get off a few shots pretty quickly. It's nice not having to manually pull the shells out of the chamber.

[@richki.24]

I'm so glad someone has a review on this Stoeger DD O/U 12ga .... I want this bad boy ....

[@mikes1172]

I own the side by side version of this shotgun in 12GA. They had both versions when I bought mine, preferred the one I bought, but I like this one as well. That was like 11 years ago, bought mine in Fort Lauderdale, FL.

[@lynnjr457]

Agreed, these shotguns have been out for over a decade.

[@Sasquatch_by_Day]

I have had this very shotgun for 8 or 9 years now but mine has a wood handguard and stock that were painted black at the factory. I love it, it is a great shotgun. I bought it to go with the Mossberg 464 SPX that I had at the time. Mossberg was ahead of the curve for the current tactical lever action craze.

[@nickolaslewis4416]

I remember that 464 SPX! I wonder if they would consider bringing it back. I remember how they were slammed for making a tactical lever gun, and now look, ALL lever manufactures are making tactical versions 🤣

[@joegilbert7661]

Nice review! I love the looks of that Stoeger.

[@michaelgraham8854]

My President says that is all i need, so that is good enough for me. I feel bad for the birds in my neighborhood that get hit by my warning shots.

[@davidg9352]

Great to see an updated or current video review on this platform. I highly agree that we should own certain firearms for the fun factor, if not just for the cool nature or “video game” aspect of them. I’ve owned the Mossberg HS12 tac O/U since 2016 and it’s the most fun at the range of all my firearms. Especially practicing reloads while running between cover points. I am surprised to see the Stoeger still has that much dispersion between the upper and lower barrel. That’s why I decided on the HS12. Every review I saw back in 2016 showed less on the HS12. And mine holds true to that, at least in my experience with an example of one.

[@bestestusername]

I got the side x side version of this here in Australia, great fun shotty. Only thing to watch is the single trigger, if your too enthusiastic both barrels will go off at the "same time" giving you a surprise but nothing bad. If your chasing pigs/hogs over there in the thick stuff its pretty handy.

[@rekoobnad187]

I’m so glad I grabbed one

[@ryanthomas2374]

WE NEED A CZ-712 FOLLOW UP! Please.. Im building mine out now and i feel that you had one of the best build and reviews.

[@F1x1tF3l1x]

Oh wow, this fills the I need to defend myself against exactly 2 water fowl use case. Thanks Stoeger

[@jeremysiegel10]

needs ejectors

[@stevenkennedy4130]

Those always looked neat to me. I really like my M3000 Tacticool and STR-9. Thanks for the share!!

[@CourtJester1960]

How does that M3000 run for you? I've heard mixed reviews.

[@stevenkennedy4130]

@@CourtJester1960 I had to send it to Benelli USA for repair. I works great now.

[@davidoverton2432]

Great tractor gun for snake control and fun for field rats and fun at the range

[@bblwarrantydepartment981]

Make sure you aren’t killing rat snakes or king snakes or dekays brown snakes. Or even harmless water snakes. All are harmless consumers of pest

[@davidoverton2432]

@@bblwarrantydepartment981 I try to leave all of them alone if I can except rattle snakes mostly because they are over populated in my area anyway but if it is in the chicken coop it's got to go once they find that there hard to convince to leave

[@zulusmith]

Props to you for reaching out to Stoeger to review this gun. They either have the worst marketing team or are being purposely handicapped by Benelli; they make great defensive shotguns that almost no one knows about. Nutnfancy is the only big Guntuber who has reviewed them, and he thought they were a phenomenal value. That Guntuber who wears the Daisy Dukes (not gonna mention his name or channel) has reviewed ALL of the Turkish shitguns, but refuses to review this brand.

[@mixilflic]

Get some bore adapters for it. I’ve got 357, 9mm and 22lr. More stuff to shoot. One advantage of not having ejectors.

[@FluffPuffkotj]

I want to see it set up for and used with night vision.

[@craigbranstrom4749]

Needs ejectors and screw in chokes because I would also like to use it for spring turkey season.

[@ISRAELITE.ZEBULUN]

AKKAR CHURCHILL, THE MODEL IS XM12

[@jameslooker4791]

Can you check to see if the trigger still has a tilt safety? I wanted to get one years and years ago, but I found out the trigger only works in the horizontal position. Not pointed up or down. Turns out to be a common safety feature on double barrel hunting guns that is often retained on defensive models.

[@DanTheWolfman]

Very Cool I just did Patterning Vid w M3000 at 7,10,15 the O/U may fit nice between truck seats etc but I lay want the side by side. I believe these have safety for hunting aimed low against NDs but something to be aware of if your room is on 2nd floor. Shorter Overall length here than a lot of others. Aim into dirt before a target and see.

[@Thulsa_Doomer]

Stoeger makes the same shotgun as a side-by-side too. Did you specifically choose the over/under over the side-by-side? If yes why? I think the over/under looks better aesthetically, but are there other reasons to get it over the side-by-side? Edit: I guess I should watch the whole video before commenting lol

[@Gieszkanne]

The side by side is ported. I dont think that there is realy benefit on one over the other. Just a matter of taste. I always like the side by side better just for the looks.

[@gleamtarrest6310]

Definitely a kool looking gun...i really really really wanted one when i was looking for shotguns, but decided not to just cause of limited capacity.

[@pjbarney9580]

I was gonna ask if they had a side by side version... lol the only stoeger shotgun I've owned was a full length s×s with wood furniture... I loved that thing at dove/quail season

[@ISRAELITE.ZEBULUN]

I OWN A VERY SIMILAR SHOTGUN MADE BY AKKAR CHURCHILL, THE MODEL IS XM12, BUT IT HAS EJECTORS. WE HAVE STRICT RESTRICTION ON FIRE ARMS HERE IN AUSTRALIA, SO WE TEND TO SEE MANY TURKISH GUNS IMPORTED TO SUIT OUR LAWS, AND MOST ARE VERY WELL MADE. HAVING EJECTORS MAKES IT A WAY BETTER SHOTGUN.

[@ISRAELITE.ZEBULUN]

LOOKING AT THE VID IT IS THE SAME SHOTGUN AS MY XM12 BUT WITHOUT EJECTORS, VERY ODD YOU GUYS IN THE US GOT THE SAME GUN BUT NO EJECTORS. I DID A DISH SOAP CAMO JOB ON MINE AND LOOKS SO COOL, WAY BETTER THEN ALL BLACK. EDIT AGAIN, MINE COMES WITH CHOKES, WTF DID THEY DO WITH THIS MODEL? NO EJECTORS AND NO CHOKES? HEHE EDIT AGAIN, MINE ALSO HAS A BARREL SELECTOR PART OF THE SAFETY, MOVE IT LEFT OR RIGHT, SO I CAN HAVE 2 DIFFERENT LOADS AND SELECT WHICH BARREL I WANT/NEED.

[@coz6908]

I looked up this shotgun, very nice, also $800 more. Stoeger makes very similar shotguns to one in this video with extractors that are $100 more.

[@PrayingPanda]

If it doesn't have an ejector, I'm not interested. It's such a basic thing, there's no excuse. 5:45 THIS IS A LIE! Ejectors aren't some new feature. It's a couple more parts. It won't significantly increase the price.

[@mh_vegas]

Excellent video -- such a cool little shotgun! I don't understand the automatic safety feature on a defense gun, but still, awesome!

[@OreGear]

It’s standard on break action shotguns

[@mh_vegas]

@@OreGear Yep, but like how Beretta puts the auto-safety on their field guns, but not the competition guns. It is very annoying on the trap or sporting clays field to have to keep flipping a safety off. Lots of shooters have them disabled by a gunsmith so I'm sure you could do that pretty easily on this gun if you wanted.

[@shaifulafzan]

Come on stoeger! not everyone have the cowboys action shooting skills. When you said double DEFENCE you should put auto ejector! FOR DEFENCE we don't have time to do cowboys eject. And please dont put auto safe as well

[@michaelchen8643]

I think they need ejectors to throw the shells out because you need every second to be able to reload it and put it back into battery so this doesn’t make sense. They were adapting an inexpensive over and under a tactical shotgun.

[@krowchuk1]

Nice shotgun, thanks for the video.

[@Steve-yo4ld]

Great weapon, simple operation! Also, the chokes are not cylinder bores. They are improved cylinder bore!✌️

[@jeffryrichardson9105]

Interesting good work out!👍🏽😊❤️🇺🇸

[@DrHanes]

I bought this exact gun 4 years ago in central Europe and mine has ejectors. I am 100% sure it is the same gun, every single detail is the same as the weapon in the video. Strange that it is now sold without ejectors.

[@OreGear]

I’m jealous!

[@Gieszkanne]

But why they no go with extractors? Are ejectors not reliable? or much more expensive?

[@john091077]

@@Gieszkanne Guess they saved $2 per gun.

[@Gieszkanne]

Stoeger also has a side by side version but it also has extractors. I dont understand why. As a defense shotgun ejectors would be faster.

[@coz6908]

I looked on their website, they have a version of this gun (not tactical and a longer barrel) with ejectors, and it's only $100 more.

[@454FatJack]

12-16” barrel handy. West of Missisippi 20” ok

[@Thisthat1234]

no auto eject.........?

[@Gieszkanne]

I also dont understand that. Especially for defence it should have ejectors.

[@PrayingPanda]

​@Gieszkanne this just screams, "we had spare parts lying around, and made something with them that we can charge out the butt for".

[@Mythichord]

“Wrong handed” 😂

[@springshower5726]

I have been wanting this shot gun for a long time, but can’t find it anywhere. All I can find is the side by side version of this gun.

[@Joe5561000]

Out of curiosity. What problems did you have with your Enforce lights? I have two Enforce lights. An older 500 (I think) lumens on my Mossberg 500 and a 1000 lumen on my 10.5" AR. I've never had any issues with either of them. I have considered changing the 1000 lumen out to a Streamlight with their sloped button. Because the Enforce is mounted at 12 o'clock. Which I really like. Because it allows me to have the same grip, when shooting with either hand.

[@bobhill3941]

The last time I saw this was in 2012 reading a review in a gun magazine.

[@fattigla]

Not so practical, but cool shotgun, although why not 18.5"?

[@OreGear]

Agreed. If I had it my way, it’d be 18.5”

[@jellybryce7742]

had the same question. maybe for balance?

[@nickolasthefrog]

Sometimes rack at a shotgun range is designed to hold no smaller than a 21” barrel with a youth stock, thus will hold this 20” barrel with a standard stock.

[@fattigla]

@@nickolasthefrog interesting, didn't know that 👍

[@RomanCatholic001]

Its 2024s version of the maverick hs12.😅 i had bought one of those back in yhe day.

[@CurtDawson-p8z]

As general rule, most find it easier to handle the same level of recoil with an O/U than with a s/s. But, yes they do require more room to reload.

[@milesmanges]

I prefer the classic outback version, its a great gator gun

[@chiefjoseph8154]

I won’t purchase anything that doesn’t have “tactical” in the title. Even my toothbrush is tactical……..

[@dr.burtgummerfan439]

With enough black spray paint, you can make anything tactical.👍

[@jgeph2.4]

So what’s the best way to have this shotgun on ready mode ? Broke open with shells in place ?

[@OreGear]

If you’re wanting to have a shotgun ready for defensive purposes, it should not be an over/under.

[@SamLee-ds7fi]

I wish they'd put two triggers on double barrels again. Easier to have different loads in different barrels

[@futuredeadkrieger9458]

Looks like my factory beretta bl2 stakeout they came with 18 inch barrels from the factory

[@erico1120]

What is mag dumping?

[@gsp8489]

Say what you will, but HONESTLY.........this would actually be a really good home defense gun for Aunt Margaret or Cousin Tristan, people who recognize the need to have SOMETHING for defense but, if they are being honest, will never train with the weapon and will probably never be proficient or confident handling a more "complicated" semi auto type gun. Those guns are very reliable from a mechanical standpoint but their weak point is user error....user error isn't much of a factor with this thing. Honestly, most of our own wives would probably be better served by this than our tricked out AR. Same concept goes for revolvers.

[@JNOSNOW]

Biden: just get a double barrel shotgun ORegear: it's got rails! Biden: you're really starting to piss me off boy

[@JohnPublic-dk7zd]

We own the plain Jane coach gun, and it stays loaded...for two shells we don't have to back up from anyone...honestly would be surprised to have to use one...reliability and simplicity count under duress...

[@Georgetsaki]

If it was 8 gauge , i would buy it

[@D148521]

Love my shotguns.

[@ricjona1069]

Needs ejector vs. extractor.

[@robertmcpherson2878]

needs ejectors, not extractors. Having to pull the shells out on this gun is asinine. Extractors double the time to reload

[@Jake-Jake]

without auto eject and double triggers you are screwed...end o story

[@OreGear]

Using an over/under for defense, you’re screwed

[@Jake-Jake]

@@OreGear the best gun in the world, is the one you have

[@ryanupchurch9683]

@@OreGear terrible take.

[@OreGear]

If you would willingly arm yourself for defense with an inferior tool, that’s on you. Don’t bring others down with you.

[@ryanupchurch9683]

Ok so I’m a near Olympic trap shooter that shoots an over under. I run a saiga 12 for home defense. If I had an over under set up how I want (auto eject. Double trigger with an 18” barrel with removable chokes and a trijicon bead ). What do you think I would run better. A 6 lb shotgun or a 12 pound shotgun?

[@PrayingPanda]

No ejector, and that stupid safety thing? Pass.

[@BigChiefWiggles]

This is a prime example of companies selling you something you dont need, something you would never grab over a better weapon, but many people still buy because its "new". I was laughing at tactical lever actions, and then I saw this thing.

[@JROCK100ification]

The ghay boys at deskpop did a burn down on one of those tactical lever shotty's They hated every second They even shot at it

[@Dirk-my2zf]

This is for suckers that live in California et Al.

[@BigChiefWiggles]

@@Dirk-my2zf you cant have a pump shottie in CA?

[@Dirk-my2zf]

@@BigChiefWiggles perhaps, but one can get 2 shots off much easier with the Stoeger, and people who don’t shoot much can be all kinds of jacked up with a pump action. Ever see someone short stroke a scatter gun? I have. The Stoeger is all kinda Cali and non shooter friendly. Not everyone is the gun expert/shooter that you are.

[@BigChiefWiggles]

​@@Dirk-my2zftrue, Im concerned with having only 2 shots before reloading, but then again, Im not a "shotgun for home defence" guy, so anything I would use is 12 rounds and up.

[@paulmarshall3099]

Chuck Norris did it first

[@paulmarshall3099]

In the Hitman

[@eduardelric]

Joe biden approved 😂😂😂

[@robertnelson1098]

JILL and JOE BIDENs WOULD BE PROUD OF YA... 🎉 🎉 🎉 🎉 🎉

[@AmericaFirstLastGlimmerOfLight]

Dumb 👎🏼

[@stevenkennedy4130]

1st cool tho

[@PrayingPanda]

​@@stevenkennedy4130not without ejectors it isn't.

[@bobmoto3528]

No auto ejection, forget it.

[@ronwinston7297]

👍👍👍