The Rossi Brawler - A Budget Boomstick

[@officiallilsideshow]

I would totally daily carry this if I can find one for sub 300, this is based, it's like a modern contender dueling pistol

[@chrisstrefling6193]

Do you have a local rural king?

[@Jolly0331]

Hahaha what would be your EDC load of choice?

[@officiallilsideshow]

@@Jolly0331 if I could find them in 410, dragons breath slugs :)

[@chrisstrefling6193]

@@Jolly0331 actually Hornady 410 critical defense loads would probably best

[@chemistryofquestionablequa6252]

​@@officiallilsideshow you can make dragon's breath rounds easily from magnesium turnings and your slug of choice. The magnesium sits on top of the powder.

[@jrrarglblarg9241]

It’s a pirate pistol for the space age. The birdshot “donut of death” will pop spacesuits without putting holes in the hull. A brace of two for boarding and then you close-in fight with swords.

[@deciduouspineapple5130]

I want to get four of these, get a custom chest rig, strap them in some sling holsters, and walk around with a pegleg as I call people "mischievous land-lubbers".

[@Jolly0331]

A brace of Brawlers

[@MSTOutdoors]

I just made a dual rig for someone’s saddle. I think you guys would be good friends lol.

[@Jolly0331]

Hey I know your rigs! You do make some sweet leather rigs

[@MSTOutdoors]

@ thank ya! I wanna make one for the mini shotgun version now 🤣 I wish I knew how to design better. This is a perfect candidate for 3d goodies.

[@Joe5561000]

These 45/410 pistol type firearms are used here in Northern Minnesota for grouse hunting. I have a Thompson Contender I inherited from my dad that works great. I can't tell you how many grouse and other game my dad took using that gun. My FFL holder just told me the other day that he has ordered several of these because he got one for himself and his buddies liked it and had him get some for them. They are especially nice when riding a four wheeler if you have a holster for it. Which apparently Taurus offers a package that includes the gun and a chest holster. Very handy.

[@Jolly0331]

I actually have the holster for it! I haven't used it yet though

[@Joe5561000]

@Jolly0331 The 000 buck handgun loads from Federal work awesome out of the Thompson Contender. I have a leather shoulder holster that I use with it. We have predators that come around because my wife keeps rabbits, chickens, ducks and some other birds. The Contender works good for that kind of stuff. I assume the Brawler would be pretty much the same. Although I wish the Contender had an ejector. That's pretty cool.

[@Deathksi]

......modern day flintlock pistol vibes for all your pirate needs

[@landobrown186]

"Julian , this is a pirates gun!"

[@colonelfustercluck486]

"Oh argggh, aye, right you are sir"

[@WelchsFruitySnacks]

I love how rossi and keltec do all the lil dumb things that no one else wants to

[@mrmicro22]

Love the mods. Very creative.

[@mothman6378]

damn it i was so ready for a 4" shotgun pistol, nice work with the 3d printing because i fully thought that Taurus made a mini mossberg Shockwave

[@Jolly0331]

This has been passed to the head of Taurus Marketing maybe they'll get on it

[@SqueakiestChair]

Its not clickbait unless you lie... you didn't lie. Cool stuff

[@justablackdude5423]

3:02 "This gun is definitely on the spectrum." You can say that again, but I still want one, lol.

[@dustinpribble1546]

We need a single shot 45-70 brawler....

[@mesanders1113]

I was thinking same think 45/70 410 combo

[@oneproudbrowncoat]

Yep. Call it the ATDK.

[@hidesinlonggrass3229]

@@dustinpribble1546 I like my wrist more than you like yours.

[@christianingram6225]

My thoughts exactly​@@hidesinlonggrass3229

[@demerclopez2622]

😅

[@DeezyP]

That shell holder on the side made me think that it was a massive revolver at first glance. Definitely looks like a cool little piece.

[@SmokesKwazukii]

This thing is fucking cool, be neat as a truck gun. Reminds me of Archer’s rampage shotgun, but arguably more concealable. Gun would nicer probably if it was just a dedicated 410 & the birds-head grip does seem more or less mandatory. Fore-end looked neat but you can just one hand it pretty comfortably with the birds head. maybe a laser sight would be fun.

[@bloodOntheStep]

This is like a modern day pirates gun

[@BbNaB]

Whenever I'm in a shop and see firearms like that I get intersted and share pictures with friends that know about firearms. Usually I get playfully mocked, but also get good advice.

[@SS-tr5ru]

Rossi needs to make this with the shockwave grip in 12 gauge. Perfect breaching tool

[@stevenetram]

You did a great job on your modifications that looks really cool

[@matthewcote151]

Would make a sweet hypothetical dueling pistol.

[@MichaelStroup]

Yes, most definitely need a full in-depth video on the brawler and everything you did to it. No idea why this popped up for me as i have never even knew about this gun. But i need it and you earned a subscriber.

[@petersstuffs6321]

Love the look you have achieved on this one. I will be building a similar looking pistol for my wife as she loves the look of sawed off shotguns even though they are illegal to own. This will fill that spot perfectly.

[@tstststs]

Great video. The Brawler looks so much better with that furniture upgrade, wow. I might have to snag one just because of that revised look, really hope Rossi/Taurus makes that standard. I also appreciate you going through the various ammo types, saves us a lot of time and money. I hope you review more dumb guns, that's my favorite topic

[@Jolly0331]

Thank you for watching. I think Rossi should at least consider the shockwave grip and full length Tuffy handguard

[@starwarsfan7180]

Why can’t they make a double barrel version that would be awesome

[@matts1166]

I was just about to say this. Just for the "Road Warrior" roleplay I'd love a double barrel, break open shotgun.

[@RequisiteFunction]

Who's "they"? Pedersoli makes a double in 410/45. The Howdah Pistol. It's about 6 times the price. Not sure why Stoeger can't make a version. They already have a .410 coach gun.

[@Joe5561000]

I think people miss a lot with the 410/45 pistols. My dad got a used Thompson Contender when I was very young. It came with two 45/410 barrels and a Super-14 30-30 barrel. He never really used the 30/30 barrel other than target shooting and not very often. The 45/410 was his constant companion from the first weekend in September to the last weekend of Deer season in November (here in Northern Minnesota) Roughed Grouse are what we hunt during "bird season" in the fall. He would take our 110 three wheeler and his Thompson Contender and go drive the logging roads, bird hunting every chance he got. Through out deer season he would put it in a cross drawn holster and carry it. He liked to walk and hunt. He would shoot grouse all through deer season. He called it the "meat getter". He actually shot a grouse seconds before shooting the biggest buck he ever shot. A big 9 point with 11" back tines. I have it now and I have found with Federal 3" 000 buck it would absolutely wreck someone's day. I use it for predator control because my wife keeps chickens, ducks, and turkey. So I don't think these guns are just range toys. I think people should look a little deeper into their uses and convenience.

[@theREALdingusMD]

The algorithm has blessed me with your channel. Great vid! I love silly cheap guns.

[@Jolly0331]

It blessed me with your view! Believe I have a ton of cheap dumb guns I plan to do videos on. Thanks for watching

[@mi777ke777]

Rossi seems to make some pretty reliable old school guns. I liked the RS22 Plinkster rifle. That thing eats everything is pretty tough and is cheap as heck. I wouldn't doubt this Brawler runs no matter what. Fun range toy but something that can shoot multiple ammo

[@williamlewis5688]

That's a legal sawed off shotgun I want one

[@thequietman95]

This looks like what you’d give to the participants in a duel if you hated them both

[@utilityaccount8514]

first person to make a break action shorty with three barrels and an ejector wins

[@whalthu]

If it was double barrel id buy 3

[@davidponseigo8811]

I own multiple Taurus Judges, Rossi Circuit Judge, Raging Judges and I love them all and they all work great

[@jasonbrody8724]

I do think this gun would work really well as a dedicated snake gun for people who have to deal with venomous critters.

[@justinsajec1196]

Fun range toy, but also good for killing grouse/other small game with the right load

[@fattbobb7095]

This gun seriously needs a smooth bore for the 410 shells. It would make a great tackle box gun.

[@PetCactusA_HarmlessLittlePrick]

NFA '34 👎

[@johnborges8231]

I can see a brawler as a work truck gun. A kit gun to stow away in a location you only know with a few supplies.

[@septemberforajedi7701]

After watching this I think I might want to get one myself ain't nothing wrong with just a fun gun and I think the shockwave grip looks better on it too.

[@Jolly0331]

It's not hard to convert either. Just a little dremeling

[@septemberforajedi7701]

@Jolly0331 Well if I have the extra cash and I see it pop up at my local gun shop I might have to pick it up.

[@samsham8218]

Wish they would make a nice blue and wood side by side and over under.. There's a hole in the market and only 1 that i can think of.. The howdah

[@ShotGunner5609]

As in, howdahheck aren't there more of these? Lol

[@RequisiteFunction]

​@@ShotGunner5609I always wondered why HnR didn't offer these back in the day, or why Rossi didnt either, when it was competing with HnR, offering matched sets of .22 and .410. Maybe it was a patent thing with TC at the time?

[@dillonrandall8173]

I really want one of these for the stupidest reason I have a tism obsession with mark "chopper" Reid and he carried a sawn off single shot 410 and this is the closest legal option I can find 😂

[@cernstormrunner7263]

that Brawler looks like Mal Reynolds pistol from FIREFLY

[@Joe5561000]

I just thought of something that might be cool. Rossi is making these single shot rifles. They offer one in 300 blk. A Brawler in 300Blk. with a threaded barrel, of course. LOL. That would be really fun suppressed. Then again it might just be annoyingly long and heavy.

[@RSK412]

Mad Max ahh gun

[@Mr.Shartly]

I got a Henry Axe a couple of years ago and I don't regret it. I was leery about lever action at first, but it turned out to be a good little blaster.

[@Jolly0331]

I love the Axe. It's smoothbore barrel gives you better performance

[@AndrewD50297045]

Thanks a lot, now I have to buy a friggin Rossi brawler to make that 3d printed dohicky lol

[@Bdady74]

"...definitely on the spectrum." Nice! I got it, it is a dueling pistol...

[@Jesses001]

0000 Buck engages the rifling, allowing for good patterning. I learned this testing my Circuit Judge. Also, I found some .45 Colt loads that did not seem to mind that jump to the rifling. I think...Federal soft points worked well...I think. Been a while since I did my testing, ha. I agree though in not the most practical gun. I mean Circuit Judge has a full stock and long barrel, so that works just fine, but this thing not nearly as much...but hey it is cheap so that is good.

[@Jolly0331]

The longer barrel tends to help a bit. The Judge Home Defender throws way better patterns than this thing

[@Jesses001]

@@Jolly0331 That makes sense. I saw the Defender. Kind of like it, but still really just mostly a fun gun as well, ha. No big deal though. If I had unlimited funds, I would have tons of useless guns.

[@Jolly0331]

I might do the home defender as a video next. It surprised cause I despise the standard judge

[@Jesses001]

@@Jolly0331 Well I mean when it comes to patterning, the standard judge is really garbage. Like a special type of bad, haha. So I guess you are right and I had the data all along. The barrel length really makes a big difference. I have something similar to that new judge in legnth. About 10" Made in...Ducktown. I am sure you seen them before. Whole host of junk quality guns that sold under whoever bought the left over parts, ha.

[@NikolaosKorelis]

For what it is , i would prefer a double barrel

[@mrpushrod9279]

that's what I was thinking make it a double barrel with the shockwave grip but in a useful gauge like 20 or 12 but then apparently that's a crime

[@samsham8218]

REALLY COOL! I gotta get one!

[@owllymannstein7113]

I too love dumb/cheap guns (or cheap/dumb guns) and was "first mouse" on the brawler. I pretty much agree with your assessment, they are both cool and not really good for anything. In my mind the biggest deficiency is that they aren't really strong enough for a diet of Ruger/TC only level reloads. If they could it would be a much better gun. The Contender/Encore in .45lc/.410 has been a "gun guy" gun for years, and it would be great to have another cheap alternative (CVA makes something similar, but they're pretty difficult to find in the wild)

[@tylertapp131]

I love that modded version, i wanna try to do that to mine now. To me the gun kinda reminds of a modern take on like a trapper pistol or mountain man pistol. I have adapters for mine to shoot stuff like 38 special, 9mm, and 22lr. But i have seen the federal triple defense 2.5 inch shells and the hornady critical defense with the 41 cal slugs work very well for me. I ended up pullin the rear sight out of mine and sight through the pic rail, painted the front sight, to use in lower light and stuff since i use mine as a woods gun alot now. Works great for snakes and other things if needed, but also not bad at all on a trap line with the 22lr adapters. Good video bud, would love to see more on it, god bless from ole Carolina.

[@sarahwhiddon2809]

Nice video 🔥🔥🔥

[@Matt-md5yt]

they look like something you would see in a video game and that is cool

[@kalashnikovbob355]

I think it would be cool if they made it in 357 magnum.

[@erichilgart]

Just got one for Christmas, busted a pheasant at 10 yards in the air with it!

[@Jolly0331]

Hell yeah Merry Christmas

[@erichilgart]

@@Jolly0331 Same too you Merry Christmas!

[@brizzymc3967]

Great video keep it up!

[@Jolly0331]

Thanks, will do!

[@Walter-wo5sz]

I own one and it is a fun range toy.

[@leeross3950]

Cool fun gun, but think I will just keep my old school Super Commanche. all the same issues and same amount of fun.

[@Jolly0331]

I missed my chance at a Super Comanche. It seems like these types of fun guns will always be popular

[@Tygor3533]

They should make it an over under with a dedicated barrel for each round

[@colonelfustercluck486]

wouldn't that make it into a rather large derringer?

[@bufordhighwater9872]

​@@colonelfustercluck486 it would also probably double or triple the price.

[@frost8077]

I also want a Brawler but I have no real reason why. It looks like a sci-fi pirate gun, and that's my reason. If I could own any .410, it's going to be something cheap.

[@Jolly0331]

That's exactly how I feel. I end up having a lot of fun with my cheap guns

[@Snuffy03]

Gotta get one!

[@paulamaro645]

that mod is freaking awesome!

[@Jolly0331]

Thank you

[@brianwalker8465]

If one of these gun companies truly wants to make a decent survival rifle, they need to give us a combo in 7.62x39 over 410 All of the combo rifles that currently exist have too much shotgun and not enough rifle (not including the bloody expensive European combos)

[@potatoradio]

IDK a Drilling with 2 x 12 Ga one with slugs and a 9.3 x 74 is good for anything .375 H&H is. (Which is pretty much anything in North America, and has taken all the Dangerous Game in Africa. Even if 416 Rigby, 505 Gibs 600/700 NE are the safer choice for the biggest - Badest ones.). Granted you are talking mid 4 to low 5-figure price for a base model.

[@brianwalker8465]

@potatoradio exactly. I'm only wanting to hunt Canadian whitetails and grouse, and I want to spend sub $1k

[@bufordhighwater9872]

I keep seeing all the comments about how it "should" or "needs" to be a side-by-side or over-under, or how it should be in .454 Casull, or some other pointless upgrade. And they really are pointless. I think J0lly said it best at the end, it's a cheap gun to have fun with. There are other guns that can better do the things you'd use the Brawler for. The "improvements" like two barrels or exotic calibers don't significantly improve the gun enough to justify the increased cost. Seriously, you want a single shot pistol chambered in .454 Casull, because then you could still chamber it in .45 and .410, the thing it already does? Because paying double price for cool points makes sense.

[@locomike102]

It's already pointless--making it more expensive won't help anyone. And the folks saying they want it in 454 can't afford enough of it to sight it in.

[@RequisiteFunction]

Dude that banter is everywhere on every gun post. "I'd buy that if it wasn't polymer" "I'd buy that if it came in 10mm" "I'd buy that if it was double barrel" No, no. No you would not. Hell, in most of the cases, the guns they're asking for already exist, they just don't know any better. That being said, the most expensive part to make on a break open gun is the reciever. Barrel length and buttstock length have very little to do with the end cost. A handgun version of a .410 shotgun should not cost more than the full size version, but there are logistics factors in the whole process that are not always easy to add up. That being said, the cheapest you'd get a double from Brazil would be if Stoeger decided to make a pistol version of its 410 coach gun, which would basically be a $500 version of Italy's Pedersoli Howdah .410. Lastly, double barrel shotguns are not just 2 barreled versions of single shots. It might be easy to explain them that way, but they are built completely differently and have about 500% more hand operations in the build process. The only doubles I can thinknof that are built like the post-sidelock singles, are the Cobray derringer-based 410 double and the blackpowder 12g Diablo. Both of those guns are a joke.

[@InvidiousIgnoramus]

Oh, I definitely need to adapt a raptor grip to mine. Edit: You uh, you know Rossi specifically warns to NOT shoot Hornady Triple Defense in it, right?

[@Jolly0331]

No I didn't see that anywhere in my manual. I saw the do not use slugs warning, but the FTX is .41 cal copper jacketed projectile so it's not the normal slug you'd find in a shotgun

[@slc308]

Wish it was 454 casull which would allow 45 colt and 410

[@bufordhighwater9872]

So you wish it was an exotic and expensive caliber which would allow it to do the thing it already does? All that would do is make the gun more expensive for little-to-no real gain.

[@SavageGerbil]

With these .410 cut chambers, I always wondered if a longer .45 casing would chamber. .454, .460 maybe. Not to run at those pressures, of course, but a longer casing downloaded to .45 Colt pressures to get beyond some of that long stretch without rifling Just some thoughts, no idea if it'd work or not

[@nathan79ford]

thats a good point, bet you could load some really heavy subs in those 45s. 2 bad it isnt threaded

[@SavageGerbil]

I had the same thought, it'd be a hoot to get it cut for threads I had a Fiala 1920 a while back, and sold it so I wouldn't be tempted to do the same. Figured they are few enough out there that I shouldn't be having my gunsmith cutting on it

[@GigaVids]

you should take a torch to the stringing and will be gone , great video

[@victorlee5208]

I like it

[@lessage760]

Great vidio sir thank you

[@Jolly0331]

Appreciate it!

[@Farfromhere001]

hell yeah, great content!

[@Ki113r210]

given that this is a break action i see no reason they didnt run the reamer out to 460 S&W so you could shoot that and 454 cassull. if using a chamber reamer doesnt appeal to ya, if you can find some 444 marlin brass, a guy could fireform it and load it to whatever spec you feel comfortable with with 45 caliber bullets, then you dont have the free bore jump. used to use 444 marlin brass for 410 brass shells for a gal in my cowboy action group that ran a 410 coach gun.

[@superluigi9490]

I was shown this as a cheap and dumb version of the dueling pistol from John Wick 4. I really, really want one

[@WingsFourtyTwo]

I like the idea of it being a survival gun. I have an extra pack for a +2 on a SHTF situation. I haven't fully decided what gun will be in the pack yet, I was thinking of a foldable 2 shot rifle like the Savage Model 42 or the Henry AR-7(Takedown .22LR that can fit into its stock). Or the Keltec Sub2000, M&P FPC, and the PIVOT could be some good 9mm options but the Rossi Brawler sounds awesome if it could shoot a bit more accurately. Throw in a 410 to .22 LR adapter and you have a 3 ammo Budget Boomstick as you put it! lmao

[@Jolly0331]

I'd have to double check but I think there is also a .38 Special adapter for .410 as well

[@zombodyzgaming378]

@@Jolly0331 So is there?

[@HarshmanHills]

would love to see a full build

[@HunterGargoyle]

i have a custom over under .410 (personal gunsmithing project) in my truck as a survival gun, similar layout to the shockwave grip brawler but all wooden furniture and possibly longer barrel... though i shoot .454 Casull out of it on a regular basis lol, the smooth bore doesn't bother me much

[@bobcat9314]

If they offered it in 30-30, it would actually be a useful tool, as it is now, i say its useless and would buy 220$ worth of candy and toothpaste, then spend it on that I did enjoy your video. My comment is more directed at Rossi, not you or your channel. Keep up the good work, safe shooting friend

[@LibrarianBarbarian]

Kind of shocked that there is no double barrel model. Wouldn't that be a no-brainer?

[@kacidy]

over-under would go hard 💯

[@Ki113r210]

two barrels is more than twice the work, unless you just dont give a shit about actually fitting the barrels to shoot to the same point of aim. its also just more stuff in the mechanism to make. a double barrel version would probably cost more than twice as much

[@lithuaniaball]

What the other guy said, actually getting 2 barrels to align properly is expensive. Probably not an issue with such a small barrel, but if your reputation as a manufacturer and your life as a consumer *need* it to work properly, then it's better to send it out the door with 1 working barrel alone rather than 1 that does and one that kinda does.

[@potatoradio]

The eye of Sauron sorry the ATF would probably be too much on it, and any argument of it being a pistol would be countered by them wanting a tax stamp... ATF website. Classification Short Barreled Shotgun Distinctive Characteristics Shotgun having a barrel or barrels of less than 18 inches in length. Rate of Transfer Tax $200.00

[@alanl3511]

Can we say a cheaper looking copy of the Thompson contender? But it still looks pretty cool…

[@MegaHellstrike]

That 3D printed handguard is singing a siren song for your fingers to slip in front of the muzzle

[@Hillykarma]

this is sick, for the price Id definitely get one if I had a need for it. some small game could be a good justification

[@SavedByChrist94]

A fun gun and a BOB back up for hunting or if SHTF kinda thing goes down and you are able to scavenge for ammo's this can at least shoot 2 different ones.

[@edwarddrost5299]

The shockwave grip and 3D printed forend are great accessories, but I kept watching to see if or how close you came to blowing your thumb off. I would like to see one with a handstop for ease of mind in a desperate situation.

[@abyssaldision8272]

pretty fun little firearm. that shockwave handle is pretty clever lol, hope the saddle issues get worked out. i just saw Inrangetv struggle in one brutality with a shotgun shell that worked fine in another setting. Problem was the shells had absorbed enough ambient humidity and swelled up. definitely something to consider if you have to deal with poor storage conditions and cheaper ammo. Wondering if you had a similar issue or something else.

[@VadeInSpiritu]

I wonder if you could mod one to look like a blunderbuss with wood stock/grip and fore-grip. That would be fun to mess around with

[@Jolly0331]

They make wooden rear grips and I could use wood based filament in my 3d printer. I make give it a try

[@waffel7664]

that with a little brace would be such a sweet little carbine

[@Jolly0331]

I just added a brace to my second Brawler might do a short video on the Braced Brawler

[@waffel7664]

@@Jolly0331 pls do :)

[@BigTeaDrinker]

Love it!

[@Joetorres3]

fun thing is that the judge in Brazil have no rifling.

[@Jolly0331]

I'm jealous

[@yz250ftony]

Looks like a good candidate for a can.

[@chadg739]

454 casual would be the shit.

[@PhycoKrusk]

You know, you could probably use the rail to attach an Alofs style reloading magazine....

[@Jolly0331]

Ive actually looked at a 3d printed design, but it was setup for 20 gauge. I'd have to do a lot of work to make it a 410

[@PhycoKrusk]

@@Jolly0331 I suppose it wouldn't be as simple as just shrinking the parts (which would still not be an insubstantial amount of work). You'd have to adjust some of the spring tensions too, since a .410 (or .45 Colt!) isn't going to eject with the same force as a 20 gauge.

[@Jolly0331]

That's really true. I might print a 20 gauge one and fool around and see if it could be downsized

[@PhycoKrusk]

@@Jolly0331 I kind of suspect the actual size is less of an issue than whether everything lines up where it needs to. 20 gauge is only 2/10ths an inch larger (bore diameter, at least) than .410, so if everything is positioned correctly that things _could_ go directly into the breach, then it might just be a matter of filling in some of the void so that the shells sit straighter in the magazine and don't move around as much, and from there you just try springs of different size and tension until you find the ones you need. That's how it is on paper, at least. All kinds of things look simple on paper.

[@Mae_Dastardly]

the fact that it's more expensive than a hipoint is baffling to me

[@Dongusdankus13]

They're only 200 dorra most places

[@lhandlott]

wow, I love it !!!

[@coreymerrill3257]

I wonder just how strong the lockup is on this ...and how strong the judge is. The .410 length chamber and ability to use .45 colt means there is a secret third option to test remotely . The .454 casull. Now if this is as strong as a contender or encore or even the ol H&R NEF handi rifle, it should be no issue.

[@Jolly0331]

The manual, in bog BOLD letters says don't do that

[@Walter-wo5sz]

Of course handloading the 454 with traiboss would eliminate the big jump to the rifling.

[@ogchaxzor3562]

It would be fun if they made single shot pistols like this for regular pistol loads. Sure you can get a Contender or Encore but I dont want to spend a thousand bucks on something they can make for 200 (as seen here).

[@zactanner5187]

I want a threaded 9mm version

[@RequisiteFunction]

There is a full length 9mm rifled insert available for these.

[@herbderbler1585]

How did you make it capable of flicking open? Mine is way too stiff for that. My ejector also can't launch any 410, only 45LC.

[@Jolly0331]

Huh, both of mine do it without a problem

[@08swatguy]

As far as compatibility goes, which version of the shockwave grip would be easier to modify? The Mossberg or Remington?

[@Jolly0331]

I'm not sure. I only had the extra Mossberg and it just lined up perfectly

[@keller1334]

They need to make this in 12 gauge.

[@Ki113r210]

literally cant. 12 gauge is way over 50 caliber so you run into the NFA dance. you can only chamber "shotguns" and "firearms" in 12 gauge as a sporting cartridge, otherwise you are getting into any other weapon or destructive device nfa territory. shotguns have to be minimum 18 inch barrel, 26 inch overall, and "designed to be fired from the shoulder," the vague "firearm" tag that the mossberg shockwave/henry axe/Black aces guns occupy can have a shorter barrel but still have to be 26 inch overall length and *not* designed to be fired from the shoulder. so unfortunately you just cant have something this small in 12 gauge in the US. Taurus once tried to cheese things by chambering a revolver for 28 gauge (.55 caliber) and having a super steep forcing cone that squeezed down to .50 caliber rifled barrel, but the ATF caught on to their shenanigans and shut it down, because the gun didnt and couldnt chamber any not shotgun rounds. the 45colt/410 thing works because basically they are all 45 colt pistols that you can just "happen" to shoot 410 out of

[@MSTOutdoors]

I’ve got 2 of these myself,a spare shockwave grip and 3 d printer. Guess what I’m doing today 😂

[@Jolly0331]

Hell yeah!

[@MSTOutdoors]

@@Jolly0331 love how it falls off at the end. Whoops 🤣

[@RoGuExPaNcAkE]

Considering to getting on to keep in the car/truck.

[@SlavicCinnamonRollie556]

Just get a Judge Revolver.. Atleast you'd get 5 rounds instead of 1

[@Dongusdankus13]

​@@SlavicCinnamonRollie556kinda defeats the purpose this is a good backup truck gun cuz it's only 200 bucks vs 5 to 600 bucks

[@TheSdrake1967]

Great for clearing out copperheads atthe lake

[@Sakira198]

ngl I assumed the thumbnail had a sawn off in it.