The Problem With Your Survival Kit

Is Dave Canterbury's 10 C's of survivability the right approach to building a survival kit? Let's find out!
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[@michaelm.7382]

I've skeptically followed you for a short while. Long enough to know that you really have no idea about what you're talking about. I unsubscribed from you today. Get off your keyboard and go to the wilderness and practice what you're preaching. As a graduate of S.E.R.E. AND SEVERAL SURVIVIAL CLASSES as well as an active member of our local search & rescue. I would put my "knowledge " up against yours anyway. You would get someone killed. And that CI background socks. Your clouds or trees aren't even moving even with all that "wind" in your microphone. 😂

[@STOKERMATIC]

Thanks for stopping by.

[@ddeeeerr6887]

so why is there a shadow at , the base of the tree on the right every time he moves the shadow moves with him

[@beachbumseaglass]

Well.... Bye 👋

[@michaelm.7382]

@@beachbumseaglass thank ya much

[@michaelm.7382]

@@ddeeeerr6887 computer-generated numbnut LOL

[@mcashler2678]

The 10 c should never be your only options. To me they are a starting point to expand up on . A person should set up a day pack based on location,season and always have what they would need for 72+ hours.

[@Stoney_AKA_James]

Exactly

[@MountainWild66]

Your really missing the point about the ten c. It’s not intended to be the entire kit but just a baseline. Dave carries a firearm first aid kit and food and advocates that people do. He has a pretty extensive radio setup and teaches how to use it. This list of kit isn’t supposed to be specific he’s just showing the products he sells as an example of what he means. He preached the ten c long before he sold the gear. I’m a fan of yours and his not a fanboy for anyone but he talks about the same things you re here. I live in the Rocky’s in a pretty remote area I’m a hunter and outdoorsman I carry the first five cs nd then some because it is essential to survival but it’s not the entire kit.

[@bafumat]

You're.... BTW

[@karlhungusjr1]

@@bafumat it's "by the way", by the way.

[@allenwurl6245]

Thank you for saving me from typing this 👍 It took some time to understand where the creator of this video was going and he’s not wrong but it’s presented as a brainstorming session instead of a finished educational product.

[@MrJayharr58]

@@bafumatreally? Mehhhh

[@jdam568]

I used the 10 cs to get through a very difficult situation, stuck on foot overnight in a storm in a wilderness area. I used that headlamp to gather wood to keep a fire going all night. I used that metal container/cup combo to keep warm liquid going. I used a 5x7 tarp as a wind/rain break. I hadnt planned on spending the night.. A freak May storm stranded me and my boat far away from any roads and my truck. I had a pistol with me, but i needed the other items way more at that point. Trust me, if your in a bad situation the 10cs can make all the difference.

[@sokyoutdoors588]

I think you look at the 10's with myopic vision. This kit is to be carried as a base that you fill out for whatever your trip to the woods is for.

[@JAB671]

Just to put a few things out there, the person who mainly advocates for the five Cs and the ten Cs has himself said that those things are just a core kit for folks to add to as/if their needs dictate. Basically he doesn't say those things are all you ever need to survive. Instead he seems to be saying that having those bases covered will greatly increase your chances. He has often talked in his videos about using those items to turn a possible survival situation into an inconvenient/uncomfortable camping situation. He also says that each 'C' isn't necessarily just one item. You might have a headlamp but also a couple of small candles for light and to maybe help start a fire. For cutting tools you might have a fixed blade, a Swiss Army Knife (which he carries), an axe/hatchet and a packable saw. He has shown that he carries three Bic lighters in addition to ferro rods, etc. and says that in a bad situation he will use the Bic every time. Because he apparently does a lot of hunting and trapping he often shows having a shotgun with him and has several videos centered around single barrel shotguns. I think he just can't push firearms too much because of KZbin and the nature of his channel. Where I agree with you 100% - and it isn't just him but a lot of folks talking about setting up wilderness emergency kits, get home bags, bug out bags or whatever - is food. The attitude a lot of times is, "You can go three weeks without food," and I say, "Like hell I can"! For one thing I know how hungry you get when you do hard, physical labor even in a controlled environment (not that I do as much of that as when I was younger) but I also have non-insulin dependent blood sugar issues. He has talked about taking food rations when he plans to be out for a few days but few people seem.to see the value of a summer sausage, some hard cheese and crackers in a pack at least. I don't do a lot of hardcore, back country activities but I make sure I have some kind if food/snack or something even on a day hike because you never know. A basic IFAK is something else that a lot of folks seem to think is not important. I agree with you that it is - especially if you are going to be using sharp implements like knives, hatchets, etc. even just camping and not in a 'survival scenario'. He does sell branded merchandise but I have no problem with the guy making a living. He doesn't say that if you don't have equipment with his logo on it you are going to die. In fact, he has done 'common man' videos where he talks about alternatives or ways to pick up gear on the cheap. Anyhow, I don't know the guy, haven't taken any of his classes and don't want to come off as thinking he can do no wrong or that his way is the only way. I do feel.like he gives good ideas and info pretty much for free and has been doing so on KZbin longer than most so I just wanted to put those things out there in the interest of fairness.

[@ericlivingston9903]

Hey Stoker, thanks for the video. As the Cs are concerned it’s actually 5 Cs of survivability and 5 for sustainability. In my opinion they serve as a construct to build on. They are as flexible as you are or want they to be. I’ve added other Cs like care and cartridges and comms, and calories. My opinion is survival requires some level of common sense.

[@KiltPatrick]

Literally everything you mentioned, missed the mark of the 10 C's. Cordage: Your static rope is cordage. Can you tie/lash/bind with it? Yep. Candling device: Youre gonna need to see at night, especially when it gets darker, sooner, at least temporarily. Flashlights work, headlights let you use both hands. Container: boiling is the CDC's choice when purifying water. You need SOMETHING to boiling water, but carrying water over distance? That 2qt is fine. Just know how to boil 2 quarts of water. Next youre gonna say you dont need a knife/axe/saw/machete, or Cover is too many items to count as a sincle C. Its a starting point. You need critical thinking skills to figure it out, FOR YOUR ENVIRONMENT. I live in Ohio. I can crawl a mile and a half with a broken back in ANY direction and get to someones house. Youre over thinking all of the wrong aspects, just to over think it.

[@albertwells8393]

He's either a complete idiot or he's using Dave's name to clout chase and get more views. Probably both.

[@L8TrSkUmBaG]

Who’s the tool that said the 10Cs are all you need? Dave C never said it in any video I watched from the guy. He did say 2 is one and 1 is none, recommending ya carry 3 different types of each kind. Why all the hate? Just because he sells chit? I got a Knock off Mora sheath on his website super cheap back in the day. Don’t need a $200 knife, but I think it’s fine if he has one for sale. Hope he sells all of them!

[@chrishall9208]

I like the 10c’s but I also would want to carry my IFAC. Because when you use a powder powered drill it is almost a necessity. And because you are using sharp tools and when in a dehydrated state you can make mistakes. Your thoughts are duly noted and I have my day pack and my Ruck set up to compliment these ideas. Thanks for your insights.

[@jeremys9601]

If you can’t survive 3 days without your radio, your fishing kit and gps, you probably just need more training.

[@angryshrub1]

Are you looking for a Harry’s Razor sponsorship? Love the critical thinking about the “Holy Grail” of survival. I’ve always been irritated by the stretching of “C”s. Candeling, cargo tape. Nobody says that. Maybe design a Stoker “F” kit. Firearm, fire, food,first aid, fermented beverages, etc.

[@angryshrub1]

Looks like you ruffled some feathers. Maybe it needs to be the 13 “C”s. Condescending, criticism, and competition? I think the outdoor market is plenty big for more than one philosophy, but when you threaten the bureaucracy of what is currently out there, you’re going to get some drama. SRO has built a business off of the 10 “c”s and sells a lot of products because of it. You challenged that with some different thought and ideas. I think you both have offered great value to the community. In the immortal words of Rodney King “Can’t we all just get along?”

[@MrJayharr58]

@@angryshrub1I think this was the most dead on comment in this entire thread! Well articulated. That’s pretty much how I feel. Only other thing is somewhat questionable is the gear list requirements on the classes. In the early years there was a lot of flexibility, however recently many items need to be purchased from SRO. Not all. Many other survival schools aren’t gear heavy like SRO.

[@billypoulin-lariviere1021]

The 10 C's are just the base of any pack or survival kit. I like to throw a basic 5 or 10 C's kit in every pack i build no matter the purpose IE our baby essentials bag.

[@scotbotvideos]

This reminds me of that scene in There's Something About Mary when Ben Stiller picks up the hitchhiker who talks about the 7 minute abs.

[@user-eg3yv3xr7s]

I have always felt that the 10 C's as people like to call them are just rudimentary basics to get one to thinking about what might need to be carried to help keep your behind alive for 24, 48, 72 or however many hours when it hits the fan and you gotta go find someplace to get away from it all until things start to calm down.

[@urielmartinez2161]

Yup a base. A really good starting point too

[@Dee-tx7ej]

You should read John McCann or Ron Hood's stuff. That's where the 10 C's originated from.

[@christopherevans2547]

The 10 Cs is the absolute bare minimum not a 72 hour/BOB. It’s meant to be expanded upon. I thought that was obvious to everyone.

[@robertbrannan9375]

When you say "they really dont mean a bic lighter" who exactly are you referring to? Because dave says 3 bic lighters..

[@user-wv4sq1jk1n]

Sorry for this long post, but I wanted to share where I vary from the “norm., 10Cs.” I see it the way of 10-TOOL CATEGORIES (10-TCs): COMPASS: Determine and follow a bearing. COORDINATES: Know where you are and where you want to go (compass w/map). CONTAINERS: Single-wall metal bottle to hold clean water and to collect and purify water by boiling, folding handle frying pan and pot for cooking. COMBUSTION: For cooking, water purification, heating, lighting. COVER: Clothing (protection and warmth), sleep system (warmth, protection, comfort), tarp/tent/shelter (adverse weather protection, warmth or cooling); this is about maintaining body’s core-temperature. CALORIES: Energy (food) for performance. CUTTING: Knife, axe, saw (firewood preparation, craft/make camp related items, general cutting, defense). CARE: First aid and hygiene. CORDAGE: Paracord, Bank-line, tarred plant-based rope (set up shelter, lash sticks/polls, tinder, and light). COMMUNICATIONS: Cellphone, satellite phone, GPS rescue devise, paper with pen/pencil. Additional Note: In the 21st century, we have many tools available to us today; we might want to have the best tools possible for the purpose of survival. If we do find ourselves without something, we could have the skill to make it, but time and human-energy/effort are major factors in survival: to make a shelter will take many hours and a large amount of effort/energy (plus we get sweaty and dirty, taking it out on our clothing); whereas, setting up a tarp or tent (shelter) that you brought with you takes minutes and little energy (plus one stays clean). Packing as little as possible is not an objective of survival. Time and energy are critical, and running out of either or both can be a major survival problem.

[@Jaden48108]

Dave Canterbury would be the first to admit the 10Cs are not written in stone. They are 10 separate but interlocking categories to enhance survival with each having redundancies to accomplish a minimal life-preserving system over a relatively short period of time. What people do above and beyond that is totally up to them for their situation. Here's Dave Canterbury himself explaining it in detail: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fYPVY4lrgdClnrM and yes, it does counter your argument, but by the man himself.

[@donwest600]

Good food for thought. I am amazed at how much has changed over time, growing up if you had a trapper or stockman knife, were appropriately dressed for the weather, canteen and lighter you were good to go.venturing farther add map and compass and sewing kit. I often wonder if the all things tactical mindset today we have not complicated things.

[@STOKERMATIC]

Indeed!

[@Michael-my6jo]

You are awesome! I love how you talk real... just you... just how you would talk to your son or nephew or apprentice. Much appreciated and welcomed. Thank you for your candid videos.

[@STOKERMATIC]

🥃

[@RealitySurvival]

Spot on! I’ve long shared this opinion that the 10Cs is not a good system. I’ll do a video on this topic soon as well. Nice work!

[@jimvanzant5121]

Which of the 10 would you encourage people to leave at home and why?

[@johnnylangley7023]

Thank you for your common sense approach to survival!!!!

[@d3vildog]

“Shop smart” Boom Stick was made in Grand Rapids, MICHIGAN. Army of Darkness great movie!

[@braunwm]

Stoker, you made a lot of good points. One of the things I have done is sat down and read through various survival situations out here in the west, and what caused them, and what could have helped. The points you mentioned about IFAK, self protection, navigation, & comms (in addition to others) are exactly what I arrived at too. There are reasons people get into survival situations, so one has to think through these situations. Comms is such an important piece I always have 3 methods of communications - satellite, ham & cell. It's rare that I have cell service, even on some of the major highways one can go for miles without a connection. People rely on their phone GPS to navigate maps, but have forgotten map & compass navigation. Another thing I see is people don't know how to drive in off-road situations, or safely extract a vehicle with another vehicle. Unfortunately, people have died due to this. There's a lot to think about and the learning never stops.

[@longrider42]

It used to be the 5 C's of survival. 1. Cover 2. Cordage 3. Cutting 4. Combustion 5. Container. Those are what I learned way back in the 80's, when I was teaching Wilderness Survival. I've added two more C's to that list 6. Calories 7. Communication, and I'm not talking a cell phone. Also, one is none, two is one.

[@marshallwebb7050]

I think Dave coined the 10 C's for beginners looking to build a small survival pack, but if you look at the totality of what the pathfinder mindset offers, they use way more than that. Could you survive with only the 10 C's and the redundant C's? yes, but it's always helpful to have more gear. Good video though

[@280zjammer]

Actually, the ten c's are just the required equipment to attend the Pathfinder School of Survival. They are intended to teach a very specific set of skills. It's more about curriculum than a basis for a kit.

[@marshallwebb7050]

@@280zjammer yeah I could see that.

[@bele2.041]

Stoker, your videos provoke alot of thought. Your experiences as you have gone through life provide some valuable advice. I especially like that you don't condescend us and talk to your audience like we're your peers and your just trying to impart some of your knowledge. Have you done a video on your most practical rifle setup, and if not, can you?

[@GalenChock59]

I use the 10 C's just as a base starting point but I customize my load out based on what I like to use. I always carry most of the 10 C's in my EDC but my other packs supplement what I carry.

[@thevirginiabushcrafter8833]

WoW, so, so, sooo True. Thanks for Sharing. I have to watch this again, like "Right Now", and I am.

[@smoke5620]

No Tears here! You are practical and “a make sense”individual ! This is a essential video! Thanks Mister!

[@KirstenBayes]

Yes! I get very frustrated by the 10Cs. Folks can get hold of "Freedom of the Hills" (US) or "Hillwalking" (UK) books for 10 or 20 bucks, both of which have proper kitlists (that, by the way, have saved my life a couple of times when weather has gone south). Alternatively the USMC has free downloads MCRP 3-02H Survival, Evasion and Recovery, as welll as FM 3-05.70 for pure survival training. The latter document has a decent kit list to get started. Here on KZbin, as well as this lovely channel, Andrew from Ranger Survival shows you how it all goes together, and Gruntproof gets into it too. It's all there for people.

[@ifyoudontfailyouarenoteven6210]

Thank you for the reading recommendations. Really appreciate it :)

[@ldtexas1648]

YEP!👍

[@user-wd4ge2zh2c]

That's funny because Andrew promotes the 10 c's.

[@KirstenBayes]

@@user-wd4ge2zh2c his Lost Hiker Survival kit and SERE kit videos are nevertheless very good.

[@YTusercomment]

My experience has taught me, when considering "The Essentials"...I initially focus more on satisfying services needed. or to prepare for, rather than individual or specific gear choices. Deciding on the scope and duration of hike / camp, then my gear choices follow. For a day hike I'm packing as minimal as I can...a multi-day hike/camp will result in packing more gear & supplies, but this mindset allows my actual gear choices to be flexible as long as I'm always satisfying my "Essential Services or Needs" : Navigation Illumination First Aid Fire Starting Shelter (Day Hike = emergency shelter / Multi-day = formal shelter) Cordage Cutting Hydration / Filtering Food / Utensils Cooking Clothing Change (Day hiking = socks / Multi-Day = full clothing change) Rain Gear

[@robertholt9631]

This critical review of the 10 C's is the best critique I have seen. Thought provoking. Thank you for sharing this!

[@BackcountryTripper]

I think the 10c is a good starting point for beginners. There is also the 10 essentials of backpacking out there as a guide. I agree with most points .The boom stick, that one is for a case by case bases for what situation your going into. Cheers, Dave.

[@STOKERMATIC]

🥃

[@YeetCheif]

It’s your humbleness that will help you prevail….. and doing and instructing while doing … keep it up brother your awesome

[@scottfergusson8411]

I have known way to many people that have all the toys but …… have NO knowledge of how to put their gadgets to real practical use. I have told them many times to get ( at least ) in the back yard and PRACTICE ! Knowledge is the true weapon/tool ! Who would last longer in most situations???? Cody or Dave ? Cody for my vote. Electrolytes !!!!!!!!!!!!!! I carry salt/minerals… game changers !!!! If I can comfortably carry it …. It’s coming with me… Better to have it and NOT need it than to need it and NOT have it… as my great grandpappy used to say.

[@scottfergusson8411]

@@alfanika2934 You don’t know shit

[@scottfergusson8411]

@@alfanika2934 can you make a weapon without knowledge? Can you get yourself at of a bad situation without knowledge? Can you procure food in the wild without knowledge? Can you win a fight without knowledge? And on And on And on Have fun in your mom’s basement! 60 year old retired Marine Been around the block multiple times. Been there done that .

[@scottfergusson8411]

@@alfanika2934 that was a good one ! You win 🥇

[@jbeckjb76]

Staying stoked. Love the info.

[@MrJayharr58]

Oh man this was so funny, good to see your dry humor side. Glad you said it. I mean look at the heat lists to go to the classes for just the “basic” every year it changes. Im a contractor and throw construction grade materials in the Home Depot husky 4 mil bags but those aren’t good enough for the class!! Need to be 6 mil. I think many people that left you bad feedback are missing the point of your argument . Lastly, the two biggest items being recommended are the helikon tex swagman roll, and the mora garberg. He is a brand ambassador to both!! Hear me out , they are awesome I love the garberg, and the swagman roll. However, when it’s kinda constantly implied and always on every class list it makes you think about intention. There are multiple intentions is all and as long as people can have some critical thinking and awareness of that, great! Great video man. This must have been at Randles property. Looks like it from his vids.

[@jamesparker6383]

A great video and I agree with ya totally on what you said especially about the IFAK. I always carry a map of the area that I'll be in along with a good compass and if I go hiking or camping alone I make sure my wife has a copy of the same map with a circle drawn around the area I'll be in, in case I'm late getting back, that way they will know where to kook.

[@phoenixrising4073]

I never thought about giving my wife a copy of the map too, that is great advice. Thanks for sharing that.

[@ellanvanninbushcraft8388]

I actually agree with everything you have just said. How do people not know the basics of survival ability . Fire, shelter, water, food, first aid and self defense. The royal marines have a saying, Travel lite, die at night. Also, what you said about the shemagh. It’s so true. I always have a mil bank bag to filter water then boil it. Great video. Take care. Craig.🇮🇲🇮🇲🇮🇲

[@StandardAmericanCarnivore]

What’s the first things they teach at any bushcraft and survival training? 10Cs. Dave Canterbury explains why what and how’s of the 10Cs. This guy just contradicted himself throughout the whole video! Well played Stokermatic! You know how to get audience engagement! 😅

[@ronaldrose7593]

Great informative video my friend. Thank you for sharing it. You covered some vital information. Stay safe out there. 😊

[@BHeisler59]

For 3 years I have put some items to the test. These are battery items but rechargeable and I have intentionally exposed them to normal battery or circuitry killing atmospheres. I live on the Texas gulf coast so summer's are hot, leaving a device hanging from the rearview mirror in 4 months of high 90 deg temps with heat index in low 100's. Same for winter which normally is brutal on batteries. I use a simple chest pack and attached to the front is the absolute cheapest 5 watt folding solar charger I could find, an ebay used item Harbor Freight brand. It has one usb port. The items I challenged were a usb rechargeable headlight, a usb rechargeable plasma lighter, a usb cap light (slides on the bill of a cap and also works perfect on a beanie). I also bought a AAA battery usb charger, it charges one at a time and literally the size of your thumb. For 3 years now I have used these items together and zero failures. With a simple folding solar charger which folds up to approximately 5 inches x 11 and 1/2 inch thick, it extends your lights and lighters out past any candles or liquid fuel source of light. 36 months and still using, that's a long time in a shtf environment. One last thing, I use a Motorola G Force with a large battery, when its down to 83% I plug into the cheap 5 watt folder and in 53 minutes (good sun), its 100%. Just wanted to pass along to all of you. In my pack, if its battery its AAA for small footprint and or internal rechargeable. I highly recommend a small folding panel. Beats the hell out of carrying extra regular batteries which in a real shtf will be dead in the water within a few days.

[@ironmikehallowween]

Good points. Thanks for the video

[@JeepsterDave]

Thanks for this. I'm guessing that a lot of us probably think of the 10Cs and the stuff that goes with that (including most things that come under the heading of 'bushcraft') as being at best a bit of fun, not really to be applied to any real life scenarios. While we probably aren't going to have much use for firearms over our side of the pond ( in the UK), all the rest of the things you talk about make very good sense.

[@frontiersurvival-1]

Since I have met you I have always loved your content. This video is got to be my favorite so far.

[@jelkel25]

I keep my first focus i had as a kid in the back of my mind to this day. I like being out in nature, that is the goal and focus, to stay out there as long as time allows without being miserable and keeping myself alive is no bad thing. You start off with sandwiches, a waterproof coat, jumper, canteen, map and compass. You've got the next 8 hours covered in the local woods. You build it up from there, further away, wilder terrain and for a longer time. It's up to you to learn how to do this, nature doesn't care if you've read Daves books or not.

[@BBRWild]

Good and very useful video !

[@Swish82]

Thanks for sharing Stoker. Definitely some good points.

[@glennhosler7569]

I carry two back backs in my truck at all times . The 10 vs are always with me .

[@mharm734]

I did the headlamp and all wool clothing that the 10C guy recommended. Worked out until the moths came out at night.

[@saltydog3394]

lol - sure made some heads explode! Ya know I appreciate both sides of the argument and we can listen to both sides and make our own determination on what works best for us and what we are doing and where we are etc...

[@Unknown39485]

Everybody is getting mad about compassess (mostly expensive ones), but if you don’t have a proper map you simply cannot walk straight in the wilderness. At best, you can climb a small nearby hill, check out the surroundings, look for a road, a rail line, a river, the line of seacost, a city or town, and then write down it’s bearings and try to find a pathway more ore less coherent with that bearing. Even if you strand left or right of the line of bearing, the target is so big that you’ll eventually hit it. Especially if you find some salient points to follow while you’re down the hill again, walking toward your target. And for that purpose, a botton compass is more than enough.

[@DanielGonzalez-le3ww]

Bro Dave Canterburry made this guy a video

[@MichaelTravis12c27]

The first C of survival on KZbin, stoke Controversy! lol there are few better ways to do that than to Contradict a popular survival personality. Love the channel!

[@lewisvillalta2492]

You’re very practical your ideas are very interesting I highly appreciate and recommend stay safe out there friend God bless you always please continue giving us all this important information

[@Ohnyet]

Great advice,Sarge.

[@user-wc4pf6og6g]

Awesome brother love your thinking have to look at things realistically

[@PreparedPathfinder]

I have long thought the same thoughts about the 10 C's mate. For those who keep stating it's a baseline, how about having some more relevant categories in the baseline? Like Med Kit, Defence or Comms? Also Navigation would be more suitable than a Compass. Cotton Bandanna, Cargo Tape and Canvas Needle are BS.

[@NoName-jr2eo]

You definitely make some good points folks ought to consider.

[@Thatsmisteroldguytou]

Army of darkness. Broomstick from that movie.

[@mikec.8556]

That’s it !

[@Seancmccormick]

You raise some good points. I still see the 10C’s as a pretty good base for an outdoor kit though. Most of these guys think you’re targeting Dave, but I believe you’re really targeting us, and for good reason. Thanks for the info Top! ATB Sean

[@brentwentfishing]

You have spoken truth, Sean! WE are the target of this video, not Dave.

[@benfoot4212]

Good stuff. I stop believing in Dave when he made his military claims of jobs he did that helped him become a bushcrafter(which he never attended). I went to those schools, they had nothing to do with bushcraft/survival. I have to agree, good info on what to take. Heard a guy say only take a band aid and Motrin and dump your IFAK's. I ignored him and a few weeks ago I used my extensive first aid kit when I stupidly sliced my finger open, ended in stitches. BTW, got your book, good stuff

[@dn88s]

I dont know as if the 10c are going to get you killed but thinking just the act of having these items is going to save you might.

[@carlercoli6752]

Needs first aid Kit (IFAK) Personal Medication And supplies ( Diabetes Emergency Kit ) Your Video will help to think what will be needed for survival Keep UP the Great Work!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@toddgibson9861]

IMO the 10Cs are fine when viewed as categories (not just single items), but does neglect true first aid/blow-out kit needs, along with food/food procurement, self-defense, maps, and better signaling/commo options. If forced to choose, I'd rather have a good topo map over just a compass.....I can figure rough directions without a compass, but I can't see what's out there without a map. The idea situation is to have both and know how to use them. For 72 hours, the need for food will be minimal, but having quick, light-weight food items would be a big plus....

[@NewEnglandLyle]

Fairly new subscriber here. Don't get a chance to watch too much on KZbin. But just wanted to say this is probably one of the most informative survival/ bushcraft/ whatever you want to call it, type videos out there. The best part about it was being open to criticism and continuously learning and understanding what you need to be able to do. And I laughed when you started talking about the products and sharing the link below. Because let's be real. That's what most of it's all about today, isn't it?

[@Tsmace33]

Watch other videos if you think this was good....lol

[@Nobody13325]

Thanks Bill 👍

[@jaymanning1405]

A few other C's care= first aid kit, comms= cell phone satellite phone, calories=food, catch= fish and hunt kit, companionship

[@348MP]

Love the video, keep em coming

[@jimvanzant5121]

To begin with, I watch videos from many sources. I never take at face value anything that any of them say. I always apply sound logic, my experience, and tons of research to anything any expert or "expert" says. That being said, I have watched many of Dave Canterbury's videos. The main point he makes with the 5 "C"s and expanded to the 10 "C"s is that these items are the most difficult to replicate out in the wild. Can you find clay, make a cup or bowl, bake it, and have a suitable container? Yes, but it is very hard to do while struggling for your life. The answer? Make sure you have a single walled container in your kit. Can you make cordage from some vines or strips of inner bark from trees? Yes, it can be done but it is very time consuming and not a well known art. The solution? Make sure you have cordage. Can you find flint and knap it to make a knife or axe head? Sure but why not just take a sturdy full tang knife and saw or hatchet? You get the picture. He always says the 5 "C"s are the basic building unit. I have never heard him say anything like these items are all you need to survive as you seem to allude to in this video. Secondly, you throw out scenarios such as a bear attack which very rarely occur. One could critique your assertion that "some kind of boom stick" could include a 10/22. What are you going to do against a charging momma bear with a .22? You're going to get someone mauled and killed by a bear. You are being irresponsible to tell people to go hiking in bear country with a .22. The last line in my comment is completely ludicrous, as this is not what you said. It is, however, precisely the way this entire video has critiqued the Canterbury 10 "C"s. There is absolutely value in this system as a BASIC foundation of gear selection, which is what proponents point out consistently. There are many examples of dudes doing wrong on the internet that you could use to help people. I would encourage you to do better, sir. P.S. I am a former active duty US Marine and I didn't appreciate the "crayon eater" comment at the beginning of your video. It hits a little close.

[@pB-vp3mo]

I finally got to this video. 10 c's have so many different meanings to different people. Some are so literal they might as well have blinders on. I look at the 10 c's as items in certain categories. The first category I consider is what item might I need in an emergency and how difficult would it be to recreate in the wild. A cutting edge, water container, cordage, cover, and Fire. I might be able to make a fire with friction, but do I have time if I have fallen in ice cold water in freezing and windy weather, to make a bow drill and collect enough wood for a fire?? I keep learning as much as I can. I might not do something one video says but I consider why I would not use it. I can imagine how deep a conversation this could be with a few tears lol!

[@theskyrider3455]

Here is a more complete version consisting of 14 C's: 1. Care (medical) 2. Calories 3. Centerfire munition weapons 4. Cutting Tools 5. Combustion Device / Creating a Fire in general 6. Cover 7. Container 8. Cordage 9. Cotton Bandanna / Shemaghs 10. Cargo Tape 11. Compass including all aditional navigational tools / aids 12. Cloth Sail Needle & Sewing repair kit 13. Candling Device 14. Communication What should also be mentioned is that those are just the categories of items. There should be at carried at least 2-3 different tools pertaining to each category,

[@highchamp1]

Thinking critically. As opposed to group think. Being grown up. As opposed to childish behavior. Stay STOKED

[@lorkainenkingg8497]

I personally have no issue with the "10 C's of Survivability" if it is used as I believe it was intended: a way to recognize types of gear that are difficult to reproduce in nature - particularly in a survival situation where you have limited access to resources that can produce those things - including TIME. I completely agree that the 10 C's is NOT a complete list of gear that could/should be in a survival kit, nor should it be a limit to only ten items. Yet, I also recognize that people who are looking for a verbatim list of stuff to have will definitely be at a disadvantage in a survival situation if they stick to the list strictly. Clothing, medical care, food, defense, navigation and signaling/comms are definitely poorly represented in the 10 C's (if at all), and you pointed them all out Bill. Thanks for pointing these out to those who might not have thought too deep about their own gear choices.

[@albertwells8393]

Clothing is a cover element. That's common sense.

[@cliffordfreeman7829]

Got flint and steel,ferro rods to but alway carry multiple Bics as a smoker i always carry spares.

[@redryder8622]

Thank you for not pushing a product;). This was a sincere video and is appreciated. I don’t know the percentage, but there is a group of people who take the 10c’s as gospel. In a clinical environment it makes perfect sense. Nature is not clinical. It’s fluid. You make a point that I think some people may miss and that is unfortunate. It was refreshing to watch. Thank you.

[@meeshmeeshelle6326]

I wouldn’t mind if he did push/promote a product. So long as it’s not the Chinese garbage where the SS rusts or the straps & seams bust loose or victims of human trafficking are producing it. There are some really great American companies producing quality gear where their business model doesn’t rely upon slave labor in order to lower the costs but everyone complains that it costs too much so they keep supporting China …and the cycle continues. All it takes is a commitment from more Americans to save their money & support American companies, and we can get back to a level playing field. United We Stand. Divided We Fall.

[@davidhorkheimer5552]

I used to Wilderness backpack in the Sierra a lot and have deer hunted both in the midwest and in the high Sierra in CA and NV for decades. I've been caught in blizzards and watched a SIerra Club hiker fall of a busy trail and tumble 70 feet with a broken arm and bloody trail rash. I ALWAYS carry a GOOD med kit I made myself and FEET of Black Gorilla tape and a "boom stick" of some sort, and the 10 C's but I will always "Taylor my kit to the enviroment and season" and what I am doing. Like driving 30 miles into the city to go to work a O-dark-30. I have a ballistic plate in my non woodsy non military looking EDC pack in addition non leathal escape and evade items. Extra pull over urban looking anarak and appropriate clothes and shoes. Spares back in the car/truck/van for options. Survivalist survive and think outside the box and what is your purpose drives gear and strategy for sure. I am not carrying a big boomstick around slung in urbanity like I do hunting above 7000 feet in wilderness. What one wears and carries has to be specific but basics are basics and snacks in the pack are always there. Wherever out there is. I really appreciated this video! Quality perspective~!

[@steveb8001]

You obviously know your craft, but you might be taking the 10 C’s too literally. It’s not meant to be anything more than a starting point that is to be tailored to specific needs. In fact, the 5 C’s and 10 C’s, in my estimation find their root in Bushcrafting which is more focused on being mindfulness of the adage, “the more you know, the less you need.” It certainly does not mean that you’re limited to the 10 C’s. Nor are paracord, bankline and rope all mutually exclusive items that you have to choose between, you can certainly bring what you need. I find it’s a positive mental thought process that can assist in thinking through your gear. I’m actually more focused on thinking through shelter-fire-water-food-med-nav-signal, that I am on the 10 C’s. But your point is well taken, the 10 C’s are fine and dandy until shit goes sideways. I hope that novices don’t think the 10 C’s means that you can’t build in redundancy. You should have the ferro, the lighter and matches; not just one or the other.

[@dirtyscoundrel2013]

Quite the rant. But you do raise some valid points. Not a fan of stolen valor Canterbury. I've always wondered why he doesn't stress medical And rations among other items. I'm so sick of all these survival "experts" saying food is the lowest priority. No it's not. No food you get weak and make bad decisions that can get you killed. I teach my students to carry both primary rations and back up rations. Dave is a business man pure and simple.

[@JonHighsmith-pi3fh]

This is just the second video I've watched of your channel and already a fan. You brought up the show Alone which I am a fan of. Just a question for you and any of your viewers that want to answer. If you we're on that show would you decline one of your "tools" for rations instead? It's just a question I've asked myself time and again and have not came up with an answer yet. Thanks enjoy the content!

[@keithrayeski6417]

Though I include the 10 C’s, I don’t limit myself to them. I have a get home bag and within, I carry what I need for two days. If I’m going to be more than two days from home base, I have a larger pack with a more extensive inventory. I understand the premise behind what Dave teaches but I’ve never considered that a check list for anyone serious about their survival and the skills necessary to survive.

[@davidlee8551]

A lot of clear thinking in your video. My GRANDchildren are comparing the 10 C’s to the 10 ESSENTIALS OF 40-60!years ago. Yes, Critical Thinking about what should We have when Plans A & B are no longer going to keep us alive! 60 F with no rain protection and a stiff breeze can and Do kill. (Big Bend Nat. Park about 1985) Yes looking at PROBLEMS can help us stay out of similar situations and allow us to survive!

[@maccabeus-everydaysurvival5828]

Good stuff... alot of bs in the echo chambers

[@lobstah3238]

Well said. There are a lot of people that believe the 10C's are all you need to survive. They need to listen to this video and think about what they are about to do and where they are going.

[@RS-ss6go]

Well said!

[@billwelch3421]

I've always called it a Freedom Stick instead of a Boom Stick. You also need Freedom Seeds for the Freedom Stick.

[@GLEN1061]

The 10c's was a marketing / branding strategy from day one!

[@dez410]

How when there are literally no products or brands mentioned in them? Just because I tell someone they should have shelter in a blizzard doesn't mean I'm trying to sell them a manufactured home.

[@talljohn66]

Your train has left the station. You are no longer on the reservation. Your can of spaghetios are empty. See psychiatric assistance.

[@STOKERMATIC]

I’ve been told I’m not playing with a full deck.

[@STOKERMATIC]

I’ve been told I’m not playing with a full deck.

[@ronwalker3033]

great info

[@andrewphipps4989]

The 5 or 10 C’s is only a minimal starting point my friend. Then, you add your food, water filter, poncho, rifle & ammo etc etc…. Please don’t go down the click bait track. I love your “how to”!vids, your military based tactics etc…. Us “civies” want you to share your military experience to help us survive the days ahead. Cheers from OZ 🇦🇺

[@Pleasemison]

High top boots are a definite. Interesting. You gotta pay for that ankle support. Always something

[@runningman1156]

Solid info👍👍

[@James-dq3jo]

I think the 10 Cs isn’t perfect but it isn’t the worst place to start Major needs are fire, water, shelter. If you’re injured, first aid. Food isn’t strictly necessary but 72h without any of it sounds pretty miserable, so throw in a few granola bars maybe. Signaling for rescue also a pretty good idea. If you knew where you were going you probably wouldn’t be in this mess so while that’s not a bad idea, is it the most necessary? Maybe stay put for a while? Most glaring omission is some kind of decent water purifier-practically speaking most water sources you are likely to find will be polluted and full of bacteria. Boiling will kill the bacteria but won’t remove the pollution. And what if it’s raining or you are unsuccessful in making fire, you still need water.

[@davidafultz]

I’d love to see a follow up video on just the 5 C’s. If you write as good as you speak, your book should have a lot of pictures😃

[@Gundyadventures]

Ok, I know there is tons of opinions flying around back and forth good video bad video so on and so forth. I know I am new to the Bushcraft hobby. Yes, for me it’s a hobby, not a lifestyle. I have watched tons of videos and read several books because it looks like a fun hobby. I’ve been camping and hunting since before I can remember. This is my take on what he is trying to get across… it’s my opinion… at least this is what I got. He is not saying the 10 “C”s are bad, he is saying that using only the 10 “C”s are bad. I had no idea where to start with my pack. The 10 “C”s are a great starting point and things to think about. I have more than the 10 “C”s. But they got me thinking. I’m going to start with what ever I can fit in my pack and still carry it. As I get better and more training and more practical application, there might be some stuff I don’t need. Might think of stuff I could use that would combine 2 or 3 things or might make something else easier. I might have another pack that I try and see how minimal I can go in a semi-controlled adventure. I feel that what Stokermatic is trying to get across is simple… don’t just rely on the 10 “C”s…. And don’t go as primitive as possible. Unless primitive for fun is the goal. He is bringing this to our attention to promote thinking and having a thought process.

[@zefsurvival7962]

Hi thanks fir the video. My primary issue with the 10C or any fixed system is the assumptions that are built into it. Also it seems its also kit marketing/ sales pushed. If I examine most lost hiker scenarios...99% would survive with proper clothing, bic lighter, communication device (PLB406), protein bar and 2-3L of water. 90% of the survival situations (lost hikers) you only have what is on you ( in your pockets). Also proper survival training to get through 72 hours is critical. Get trained in survival! Bushcraft is not survival training. Lots of unscientific BS... like the "will to live" that has absolutely no value. 1. Communicate/signal 2. Maintain 98.6 3. First Aid /Life threats. *** The priority is what will kill you first. If you are improvising, you were negligent in the first place. Anyway, great stuff. Thanks from Canada 🇨🇦

[@albertwells8393]

With the 10Cs and even bare minimum skills almost anybody should be able to smooth it for seventy two hours which is about how long most scenarios last.

[@phoenixrising4073]

Because I haven't seen it in the comments yet; Boomstick is from Army of Darkness. One of my favorite movies and it's the first movie me and wife watched together over 10 years ago. Our first kitty is named Ash. And yeah, we got some boomsticks. Great video, I never leave home without rations and basic first aid kit.

[@dennisseverns4014]

I still do not use the terms Bug Out Bag, Get Home Bag, Bushcraft or EDC Bag. The kit term that I first learned other than a survival kit, was called a Get Lost Kit. I still pretty much carry a Get List Kit most of the time, when I go out into the woods.

[@dennisseverns4014]

That get lost kit, from one of the books I had as a 13 year old, when I first started going out into the woods alone, started off with food and first aid items. Last section of the book, Complete Book Of Camping, was called "Plan To Get Lost" that is where I found that Get Lost Kit. All of my camping gear, back then, was items I found around my house.