What The Minuteman Can Learn From the Combat Veteran | Training For SHTF

What can the modern minute man looking to prepare for SHTF learn from combat vets?
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[@thesixpkamerican1]

Such larping BS

[@STOKERMATIC]

😂🤣🤣😂

[@prylosecorsomething3194]

Is it larping when brent0331 has like 20 years of infantry experience?

[@thesixpkamerican1]

@@prylosecorsomething3194 he isn't the only one.. what he should be saying is.. you will NEVER use it again... Unless your national SHTF sex fantasy happens.. it won't. Last national SHTF... Covid... nope... 9-11... nope.... Katrina... regional.... maybe WW2.. but definitely civil war... Sorry but mad Max is fantasy and won't happen... Ever...

[@Valorius]

I'm an old infantryman, why don't you tell me what they said that's wrong.

[@thesixpkamerican1]

@@Valorius I doubt it

[@mikhailkalashnikov4599]

As an old grunt, I can say the following rules of thumb were pretty standard: If we were humping ALICE, it was mostly an administrative movement. Ass packs for everything else. Operating in a large scale offensive or defensive op, we had helmets and flak jackets on. Almost every patrol, we only wore duece gear and soft covers along with mission essential items, as these times preserving energy was key. Unless in extreme cold weather, I only carried a ponch w/liner just in case. Water, chow, and ammo were always a priority. Learning to sleep with your boots on and fully clothed in most cases was standard. Everything else was a luxury but having luxuries can cost you dearly.

[@STOKERMATIC]

☝️

[@warlord2pfa]

This man speaks the truth.

[@Valorius]

I always slept with my boots on. It keeps the snakes out of them

[@mikhailkalashnikov4599]

Absolutely, and the scorpions out west and Northern Africa in my experience. The Habu in Okinawa, tho @@Valorius

[@renegadearms]

That’s part of the issue now days for something’s, we had no option to ditch body armor and helmets regardless, but what you’re speaking is truth.

[@edwardbiasi37]

Gents, us civilians need this. We need the truth about kit, gear, training and real world situations we may encounter at home. Most of these videos I see on KZbin are cool, but not practical. I appreciate the truth and I appreciate all of you guys and am thankful for your sacrifices.

[@davidstyles5216]

Everyone is talking about this. I think we all know that our lives are about to change.

[@cliffkirby8570]

58 years old and not in the best of health however somewhat In-Shape... Definitely not overweight... I started rucking about a year ago with my pack about 13 lbs plus carrying a AR.... Now I'm up to about a 22 lb.... It's pretty amazing how much of a challenge it was to just go from a 13 to a 22 lb pack.... But unintentionally take everything I need to survive at least 24 hours even if I know I'm only going for a couple of hour hike. No matter what happens I'm having a good time figuring out what works and what does not.

[@EngineersQuest]

👍👍

[@thesixpkamerican1]

Hopefully you won't have a heart attack

[@ArmaGuyz]

Infantry Standard is a yearly Road March with a ruck of 35lbs 20 miles in 2 hours over fairly even terrain 12 min miles. There was a man in his fifties who became a Royal marine just to embed with them and cover their activities he broke his hand during his test and still finished... For US. Army Rangers the Road March is a 50lb ruck over multiple terrains. If you can do 35lb ruck march you can do infantry standard for today's Army. Do you need to do that NO. Im just sharing that with you. Take it for its worth. If I were you I wouldn't ruck at that age. Just eat right exercise and make sure you can shoot accurately with your heart rate up.

[@thesixpkamerican1]

@@ArmaGuyz it's 25k ruck march each month.. not yearly

[@ArmaGuyz]

@@thesixpkamerican1 My bad 12 mile Ruck March is what I meant not 20 I was talking to someone else about the 20. I didnt know the 12 mile was montly but I did know the the 12 mile is for EIB. in 3 hours and is required Annually at least. Some bases do it monthly but others from what Ive read do not do it montly. I think Airborne does Monthly.

[@JohnRodriguez-si9si]

1SG Bill Stoker( USMC and US Army) and Sgt.Maj. Downing ( USMCR) back at it again. Damn, I Myself AM impressed!! Semper Fidelis!!🇺🇸🇺🇲🦅🌎⚓🪖💣💥🔥🇺🇸🇺🇲‼️

[@Valorius]

Most of the dudes you see LARPing around on youtube aren't even wearing ballistic helmets. It's all about the look for them. Good video stoker you have a new subscriber

[@Stoney_AKA_James]

Great discussion Bill, Randall and Brent! "Back in my day"... The mission changes because the threat changes. In the jungle, we didn’t wear kevlar, just boonies and fatigues. Some of our ops lasted up to 7 days, but were normally 2-3 days. And like you all mentioned ammo and water were priority. But because we didn’t have support, or use trucks, etc. everything we needed, we carried on our backs. Being an "old" Ranger, my body is now paying the price!

[@alancarter4270]

I enjoyed the conversation brothers and your collaborations. We had the ALICE gear in my day early 80's and I still use it along with PLCE as well. I am no longer Mil-Spec at 62 years old with all the body damage that comes it. I do the best I can. DFW, Texas

[@Valorius]

Im an old Amry grunt and a buddy of Randalls. I just released a live action short film (inspired by brents great videos!) that shows the kind of movement you should be expecting to perform and what a realistic amount of kit is, in rough Terrain. If you can't do what you see in that short film you need to do more PT, it's that simple.

[@IR0CZ2857]

That movie was great! You and Brent need to do some collabs.

[@M7A1bayonet]

​@@IR0CZ2857yes!

[@RubyRidgeWaco]

​@@IR0CZ2857do it 😁

[@CColumbus]

👍👍

[@garyfoster738]

It was the thrill of the week to see all three of you together at the same time I watch all three of your channels. It was an extreme pleasure to see all three of you collaborating together. Keep up the good work and I'll continue to follow

[@STOKERMATIC]

🥃

[@Pepper-kw9ny]

There is a fine line between effectiveness and mobility as opposed to lumbering around like a human tank.

[@jackgladish6821]

Can I add that wearing a helmet without a flak “plate carrier” is an option. An awful lot of folks somehow miss that part. Helmet came first, flak protective vest came much later. Bushcraft axes and cammies and off-road/Bugout mobility vehicles and ultralight gear sell, but, boots, knife, firearm, backpack, adequate clothing, and a shovel remain the essentials. 🎶Meet me down by the railroad track, track. 🎶

[@Brent0331]

Yup, good point in deed. Another benefit to wearing a helmet, or at least having it with you is that NVGs are much easier to run helmet mounted then on a skull crusher.

[@ramblingimbecile2295]

Back in medieval times the helmet was absolutely the number 1 piece of armour that you would want. If you could only afford one thing then thatbwiuld be a helmet. You can survive a lot of damage to the body but a glancing blow to the head can be fatal

[@commonsgiant]

I shot a match called the Proving Grounds. The requirements were 15lb plate carrier and kit. Up and down ladders, flipping tires, through the woods, pushing trucks and then trying to control your heart rate long enough to take a 400 yard shot. VERY humbling and one of the best lessons I have ever gotten. Changed my kit to as light as possible once my knees stopped hurting. So many people forget the physical fitness and the mileage on our bodies as time moves on. It's like the c clamp on an AR. Works great on a 3 gun stage. Try doing that all night. REMEMBER KNEE SLEEVES

[@miltechmoto]

The reason the flat range guys think the way they do is because the don't use cover to shoot behind...they wear cover in the form of body armor. Even if you give them a plywood board as notional cover they just shoot over it or next to it. Truly mind blowing.

[@washburnbilly]

Stoker!!!! I'm not an operator but i enjoy learning new things from the best.

[@Valorius]

There is a lot to be said about having Earth Tone Outdoorsman / hunting clothing that will not paint you as a Target to that drone operator flying 10,000 ft overhead that you don't even know is there

[@CColumbus]

👍

[@Front-Toward-Enemy]

If you’re carrying a rifle, the style of clothing becomes less relevant.

[@Valorius]

@@Front-Toward-Enemy less relevant, but not irrelevant. And the style of weapon you're carrying matters too. A guy dressed and non-tactical looking outdoor clothes with a Henry Homesteader as far less likely to get zapped by a predator drone than a guy running around in multicam armor and an AR. There will be some officer standing in that Predator Shack, and it would be your job to give him pause. You can do that by how you are addressed how you're behaving and what you're carrying

[@Front-Toward-Enemy]

@@Valorius no, any weapon will get you zapped. People will not give a fuck what you a carrying, if You have a gun and they don’t know you but you are in their area. Expect them to treat you the same as someone wear camo and carrying an AR. If you really believe people will look at a guy carrying a hunting rifle but wearing civilian clothes, as a non-threat, you got another thing coming. Don’t expect to be treated any differently.

[@DJTheMetalheadMercenary]

Great talk gents!!!

[@voraciousblackstn]

Great teamup!

[@JCOwens-zq6fd]

As a guy in his early 40's im glad you guys touched on this. I take one look at some of the gear guys use these days & whether ir not they can hack that load long term is an important consideration I feel many arent making.

[@youtubekeepsshadowbannin-ym4go]

What people are missing is the gear that us gwot veterans used although applicable is getting outdated, getting stronger lighter armor like woven nanotubes into kevlar making it thinner and just as strong, or being to take a knee, and deploy a small recon drone from your backpack in order to see the next 300 meters, or having a modular AR with much shorter spare zeroed upper that you can throw on when you get into rooms. Combine that with intelligent Bushcraft and you got something.

[@jeffroW0331]

Humping your shit is not for the kind-hearted. I lived for it 🇺🇲

[@rabidzombie01]

Oh shit! What's happenin' fellas?!?!

[@clintonfields9640]

This is what makes me stay stoked! Always good info.

[@Makkgia]

I don't know if it's destiny or the algorithm or something of the sort, but I've been watching the channels of the three of you for a while, and they always seemed very instructive and interesting to me. Now, seeing that you come together and form a kind of community to share your opinions and experiences with us is even better. Thank you and warm greetings from Argentina.

[@STOKERMATIC]

🥃

[@paul7754]

So break time while at SERE Challenge 3? Makin' good use of the down time! Being physically fit is 1st priority. Then it breaks down to what you need to be ready for - right? I see 'light and fast' as a practical method. I'm not planning on parachuting in on Fallujah anytime soon... Glad to see you guys having some fun!

[@Fusildechasse]

You guys nailed it..

[@shanewhetstone7977]

Three of my favorites. Thanks so much with sharing wisdom. There are many of us that truly appreciate it.

[@Valorius]

Is Brent a giant or is he standing on a box? LOL😂

[@CColumbus]

😂

[@spearthumb68]

Lol

[@bele2.041]

Stoker, more like this please. Love the practical advice; Randall has alot to share as well. You're a good moderator and you guys have a great camaraderie.

[@JMark-zk5pj]

I'm former US Army 19K20 for five years, WW2 tactical events reenactor for 40 years (im 56), with those two aspects I will always have a helmet on my head in the field. Both aspects, a helmet has saved my noggin many times.

[@sixshooter4570]

I'm very grateful for an excellent video, Thanks to all of you for your service and taking the time to present your much welcomed experience. It's greatly appreciated.

[@chrisogle1168]

Thank you for being real.

[@kinch613]

Idea! The three of you in a videa can teach and show what concepts, signals etc for an actual patrol in a SHTF scenario. Name it. But this is something that must be done whether its a neighborhood, or rural community if you have a MAG.

[@STOKERMATIC]

If we get more time together that would be great.

[@kinch613]

@@STOKERMATICthanks Stoker I appreciate it. Career cop here and an AF vet. Think we all are going to need to know this skillset asap!

[@herja-youngodin2040]

Thanks! Appreciate the content.

[@jelkel25]

Among prepper channels, if you want to get no response or a negative response leave a comment that they might have to bug out, get home, whatever on foot. Suggest people shouldn't rely on their ebikes as backup transport and get off their asses and at least ride a push bike, crickets or abuse. The amount of s*it some of these people think they are going to carry before you get to self defense, plate carriers ect beggars belief. Tactical awareness of the most basic kind is miles off, a little self awareness and the basic ability to acknowledge someone else might know more than them on some subjects then listen to that person would be a good starting point for many.

[@jeffedoe4189]

Absolutely great stuff stoker

[@PatriotsArk]

So many facts about the community,Great collaboration. That's why we get out there every month in North Georgia.

[@STOKERMATIC]

🥃

[@chadousley9484]

Lot of knowledge there. Thank you!!

[@donwest600]

I agree moving light is better, stay with basics beans bullets and bandaids.

[@youtubekeepsshadowbannin-ym4go]

Negative have concealable armor at least that's puncture and stab and slash resistant and will stop frag and pistol rds, helmet yes, more than basics because your enemies will be using new technologies like recon syp drones

[@donwest600]

@@youtubekeepsshadowbannin-ym4go Many of us did our time before the highspeed tactical wear showed up and we are still breathing. Proper concealment techniques can hide you from drones.

[@bobjames9618]

Pack light freeze at night and don't forget your mop gear

[@thebrizzy]

Too many gear options is a good problem to have. We just have to acquire the experience to figure what to use.

[@runningman1156]

love it , keep it up guys

[@user-gn7zy5rc4l]

Thanks for sharing this with us!!!! Great job discussing what needs to be spoken!!!! Look forward to seeing more content juat like this!!!!!✌️💪🤝👍👍🎯😎

[@user-ud3yb7qc2g]

Thanks

[@alexanderschooler579]

Brent is a treasure to this community. Thanks fellas

[@Joeypeez]

Great video guys. Thanks. Us civilians who don’t have the experience y’all do really appreciate sharing your knowledge.

[@jenniferbauman4802]

Good video. God bless. From Glenn CATT. In Massachusetts.

[@mdc21787]

Love all three of these dudes nice collab!

[@dn88s]

A lot of wisdom here. I'm not sure if a minuteman should generally be out for days or weeks, but they should probably understand what it entails

[@scottjohnson7899]

Great video and informative 👊🏻

[@chefinwood4706]

Great conversation dudes. experience out in the field teaches you everything you need to know. Keep grinding

[@tomcatt998]

i hv made a lotta mistakes,, thats how i learned

[@3412Studios]

interesting perspectives here.

[@mariesonoma]

Good realistic info from those who have lived it. Thank you Valiant men and all those who have served. Keep teaching and sharing truth. 👑

[@walkercustoms]

Thank you

[@Nobody13325]

Great video👍🏼

[@thriftysurvivor6117]

I've never been able to serve given I've been a type 1 diabetic from the age of two and I'll never know if I would have if I could have. All that to say that I want to thank you guys for your service and for putting out this common sense information. One observation I've been able to make though is even with ballistic armor covering the torso, one shot to the leg can take you out just as fast, or what about a head shot? Even a ballistic helmet won't protect you from a head shot coming from the direction in which you're probably shooting. Even a guy without any combat experience should be able to recognize that body armor does not make anyone invincible, so to that end, one needs to ask themselves weather or not it's worth the added weight. It would seem that being able to carry more ammo and being more agile might be just as effective. If the added weight prevents one from being able to take cover quickly enough to keep from taking one to the neck or leg it can be a detriment rather than an asset. On the other hand, having sufficient ammo to take out the threat and maintaining enough agility to be able to avoid being hit in the first place may be what keeps you from taking a shot where you have no armor. One can bleed out just as quickly after taking a shot to the leg or neck as they can by getting hit in the chest. Again, I'm speaking from the vantage point of an observer, but it seems to go along with what you guys are saying. It's about time someone finally addressed the elephant in the room and you guys did a perfect job of that. Now I'm not saying body armor doesn't have it's place, but I don't see it as being something I'd want weighing me down for an extended period of time. Situations such as clearing out structures would be a time I'd want the body armor, but marching through the jungle for days on end wouldn't be one of those situations. Just my two. Thanks for providing great content guys. I'll keep watching.

[@kinch613]

I think its obvious. Patrolling, Recce and sustained operations where contact is either not suspected, or mission planned, light and fast. If assaulting and contact is planned and mandated, armor up.

[@STOKERMATIC]

Not untrue.

[@warlord2pfa]

Yup

[@protrump1285]

Seems like Running Armour around the House and Property would work well,

[@SPKonrad36918]

Thank you for the insight gentlemen - common sense is definitely a hard to come by commodity in the general public and the KISS principle is lost on a lot of folks

[@billwelch3421]

At the age of 65 and a disabled veteran the best I could do is provide my advise and expertise to the younger generations. In my day we were going out light unless it is something I absolutely need. If I'm on my own homestead I would hope that I would have the forethought to establish cache of arms, ammo, food and other survival equipment around my known AO. The jungles of Grenada were treacherous to navigate, add a bunch of unnecessary equipment would have hampered the mission. I was not about to pack around a parachute through that jungle. What Gunnery Sgt. Highway said it was a Cluster Fuck. As Albert Einstein said Old men start wars, young men fight wars.

[@ssearl3231]

Good stuff

[@scottlehman9738]

Great information, thanks. SEMPER FI.

[@ed5042]

great video! loving the tiger stripe

[@JacobJohn-rc4sx]

You guys looked pretty cool today

[@JD-tq6ef]

I think the other consideration is that when you are in the military you have the comfort and convenience of a supply train but the average citizen does not so therefore they will have to carry more sustainment especially if they don’t have the support of the locals to help them out

[@ryan38315]

Thank y’all for the info. Newb who wants to know.

[@pathxtoxruin]

Unpopular opinion typically but, check for a multi-day mil-sim airsoft event from mil-sim west or American mil-sim if you can afford to. They run pretty regularly. Take your full kit out. You'll learn what works, what doesn't, what ya like and don't. And the added simulated combat environment. Gotta stay vigilant. Night and weather doesn't stop the sim. Good experience in kit.

[@CastleHassall]

well, the army do excercises so i don't understand why people mock airsoft.. it's real simulation of actual scenarios people might face in serious shtf events.. and alsomost critics can't even run thirty feet and never get out in fresh air let alone do any fitness or training excercises stuff so i think airsoft is a great idea

[@skydivingcomrade1648]

Water, ammo, comms, optics.

[@timscarborough7575]

I remember as a young troop, I was carrying to much stuff during a field exercise but I thought it looked cool. I then realized it was not needed or necessary. On my IBA I had my 6 magazines, first aid kit and two canteens . No camal back, they bust if you had to roll. Multitool on my person. Good stuff.

[@chrishall9208]

Thank you all for your service. I am kind of interested in how the three of you moving through a town, city would maybe use the gear you say is not good for the woods. And have a cache somewhere or multiples at the outskirts to change up what you don’t need into what you do.

[@HardcoreFourSix]

Minuteman has no crew-served, no Indirect Fire, no CAS, so ammo, ammo, ammo. SHTF patrol-probably short distance and short duration movements.

[@recon1986]

As a marine vet myself I made sure my chest rig and place carrier are compatible using the same front placard able to switch if need be with little to no difference in set up... my chest rig holds 6 AR mags and 2 sidearm mags... I also have a battle belt set up with 2 sidearm 1 main rifle mag along with another back up rifle mag on my right side with a dump pouch holster and IFAK not heavy at all and extremely streamlined

[@SilverShamrockNovelties]

I appreciate the comment section for this particular topic, because it has afforded me the opportunity to preemptively block dozens of trolls from my channel.

[@tarheelrealist8935]

Great discussion about gear whores and real world application. As I learned years back at CamLej (Geiger), ounces equals pounds and pounds equals pain...speed is life.

[@STOKERMATIC]

Semper Fi!

[@kurtbaier6122]

I’ve tried different military kit since the 70s. As to civilian defense I run a Glock 19 concealed with raised tritium sights, light and laser, and a USA One Shot non NFA pistol brace in a small back pack, with a total of 112 rounds. I have a plate carrier that usually holds 1 of 2 single ceramic dynema plates ( Battle Steel) at 6 lbs each and covered pouches that can hold up to 6 mags for an AR if desired for static defense or transport. Usually it’s slick. I’m sold on a generic belt and suspenders LCE worn low like it was done back in Nam and like the Brits today, so my plate carrier can go over my 1956 canvas H suspenders which connects to a condor gun belt by using paracord. Which improves comfort rather than the metal hardware and provides adjustability. Most of my pouches are MOLLE. A few ALICE pouches are zip tied. No breakage during years of training. My pack can be worn with all 3 if needed, but not likely. After 3 surgeries 2 years ago and soon to be turning 70 I’ve had to rethink mission, kit, and weight. I was doing a 35 lb ALICE Ruck over 3 miles and 4 good size hills in 40-45 minutes and ready to bump up to 40 lbs at 67 yrs old when things turned upside down. Now, I need to be smarter about things. Age and injuries catch up to folks in their 40 or 50s. I’ve worked to stay outdoor fit for decades. Had to quit running in my 50s feet weren’t happy running 5 miles a night 4 times a week. Hope you guys stay in the fight when you get in your 60s. Wise leadership is rare. Cold War Sgt 1976-1982.

[@CastleHassall]

no offence but i think you'll find that a good part of physical training is having proper recovery time too.. that helps a lot. and after injury just don't train.. for months if need be.. otherwise it can lead to worse problems. then build up gradually

[@Anthony-sd9yz]

The only way to survive is mind over matter.... Semper Fi

[@GAJake]

I'm civilian and bought a micro chest rig. I'm joining our state defense force and will be only doing search and rescue, I just want a place for a map and compass and first aid. I literally have seen some guys with empty plate carriers lol.

[@josephbrown-ut9ty]

Ive been in the "building kit phase" of prepping for some time , almost have my kit put together and now due to some stupid shit at work im looking at rotater cuff surgery. I have to re-evaluate everything now , and cut some weight , ok alot of weight. Relearn how to do things after the surgery and hope my PTs will be able to get my shoulder back into some symblance of shape. This is a BAD time in History IMO for me to be laid up. Stoker , can you do a video on getting back into some symblance of fighting shape after an injury?

[@davidoftheforest3822]

BPC157 peptide. Research it and order some

[@perceptive9177]

Maybe you guys could video the usage of the gear you are saying may not be conducive in the environment you are currently in. Then your audience can get a better understand of the pros and cons of the gear.

[@tacticalbt1023]

I always go for lighter & more simple. Minimalist is what I’m for lol

[@jordan_velasquez]

Ain't no room for Peter Pan. Not on this hunt! Great breakdown fellas. Gucci Warriors or internet commandos have no concept of what works for war compared to a static range. Still the greatest nation on Earth 🇺🇸

[@thesixpkamerican1]

These three guys are next going on a river up in the deep Appalachian mountains in a canoe... Deliverance anyone??!😅😅😅

[@djphillips109]

Unleash your inner predator!

[@observationpostcharlie1365]

Great video Brothers I'm an older vet went in 1981 an I'm older with aches so I'm been trying to do a minimum loadout with the flc and I'm in the suburbs so is to do scouting recon and defence of our housing additions my mos was 19d but got reclassed as a 11m infantry scout would love so advice thanks brother stay frosty

[@TennGrizz]

20 years Uncle Sam's Misguided Children 0300 at 55 I'm not wearing body armor unless I'm in a static defense. Or I'm part of a vehicle convoy. Body Armor hinders speed of movement. Ammo, Water , Ifak, chow, socks. Slow is smooth and smooth is fast.

[@pyeitme508]

Wow 😳

[@mertmcguire]

Yep, I'm getting near 50 years old. Weight is everything now. Spend that extra money for lighter gear.

[@soap5393]

Great info! If you wanted to be as gray man as possible with something like old school LBE Alice or whatnot - if both were important, how would you approach it?

[@renegadearms]

Hence probably why my back and knees are destroyed 😂.

[@STOKERMATIC]

Truth!

[@bradfordjeff]

This movie doesn't deliver on the shit or the fan. Two stars.

[@STOKERMATIC]

Better than one!

[@james-im1sj]

Avoid gun fights at all times ...

[@alanrice39]

I go lite

[@SHTFHunter]

I believe a plate carrier is a minimum. Ceramic plates and not AR 500 steel plates. Maybe keep have AR 500 plates as backups just in case ceramic plates actually get shot. My minimalist plate carrier only weighs 10lb slick with ceramic plates. A small price to pay to not catch a bullet in the chest. As far as the hearing protection you are 100% right. Doing Tactical Games stuff almost everyone uses earplugs because you are constantly slinging or unslinging your rifle. Anything other than earplugs will get knocked off or get hung up in the sling. Me and my buddy use the Walker headset Walkie Talkies when hunting. Those are a little wierd.

[@STOKERMATIC]

Appreciate you sharing your perspective!

[@SHTFHunter]

@@STOKERMATIC I like the idea of LBE over slick plate carrier though. I will take that in consideration going forward.

[@RedForman22]

Yeah a plate carrier is the standard for modern prepared people. You take a 22 to the chest or abdomen without plates on your going to die from infection. People need to stop day dreaming of red dawn being the shtf situation. Nobody is walking around the woods during shtf you do that you will be killed and run out of food in 3 days. The guys that claim there “minutemen” are not preppers and need to stop claiming they are because they are completely different things. 😂 it’s 2023 there’s 4lb ceramic plates and 6lb steel plates, if you can’t wear that for a couple hours idk what to tell you.

[@SHTFHunter]

​​@@RedForman22 During a real SHTF I fully intend to bunker in. No reason to leave home. This is where my food and shelter is. I have a body armor set up just for defending my home. It is a IBA with front, back and side plates. Super heavy but can absorb a lot of hits. I have a smaller lighter set up in case I need to patrol. It's strange to see Veterans advocating not wearing body armor. When deployed we were made to wear it on missions.

[@Brent0331]

@@SHTFHunter I conducted LP/OP missions post Iraq Invasion without body armor, just duce gear. There're certainly missions and environments where body armor is a hindrance. Mission and environment dictates gear.

[@jimt3409]

Oh yes definitely I have learned much from my brothers be like a sponge.

[@mihailvormittag6211]

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[@Korruptor]

Anyone know of a maker that makes in-ear protection, with ambient enhanced hearing and a downlead for additional sources so that it'll fit under a MICH / ACH?

[@M7A1bayonet]

Surefire.

[@jerryj3047]

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[@brandonbowman5915]

So I'm curious regarding the hearing protection issue from any of my GWOT brothers. Has anybody else experienced what they call authority exclusivion? I shit you not my ears didnt even ring after a .50 went off

[@brandonbowman5915]

Auditory exclusion. I was a grunt cut me some slack here

[@mattsrandomsheet2744]

Too much good stuff like ampm