Gonna write a concerto for inaudible low flute and loud orchestra
@itznoxy71938 ай бұрын
“Secret concerto” - only the performer will know what it sounds like
@rodrigosierra43224 ай бұрын
Genious
@DenisPuscaOfficial9 ай бұрын
Thank you for all these incredibly wonderful videos you have been uploading for years. For me, yor are really one of the most reliable music educators here on youtube. Thank you!😊
@jenleelind9 ай бұрын
Thank you for calling this out! As a flute and oboe player, I see poor flute writing/range from inexperienced composers and arrangers far too often. Your points are spot on, as always.
@OrchestrationOnline9 ай бұрын
Great to hear, Jen! I learned a lot of what I know from listening to the concerns of players, and it means so much to hear from a player when I get it right. Thanks so much!
@starwolven2 ай бұрын
Solution: Give the alto/bass/contrabass an advantage by supplying them with a personal amp and speaker system designed to project low notes. Simply add it to the musicians toolkit in situations where they are inevitably buried in the orchestra.
@javiermedina53132 ай бұрын
it doesn't sound very good, like it's not natural. That only works with the celesta and other special instruments.
@mishapurser44393 ай бұрын
There are times where I think an overwhelmed flute still provides a lovely bit of softness to the overall sound
@Unfunny_VR9 ай бұрын
Wow, these videos are amazing! I’m a self-taught composer and these videos really help me understand the music itself!
@GorechierComposer9 ай бұрын
My knowledge is always sharpened when you post a video!
@stevenswapp47689 ай бұрын
To do so is flute-ile
@DenisPuscaOfficial9 ай бұрын
Thank you very much Thomas!❤ I recently rewached the video about harp-scoring and there were some quite intresting things in it. And I would be delighted, and I thing other people would be also intrested, if you would make a video somewhat expanding on what you said in that other video. For example, where it is useful to use a harp and where one could have the strings or woodwinds to support it or just have the harp effectevly enhance the texture. Also touching on diffrent texures that one is able to have on the harp.
@JoelEverettComposer9 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your valuable insight as always Thomas!
@kovachito9 ай бұрын
Great video and good to know that the "last orchestrations tips" book is coming. I'm already eager to get one copy. Thank you,Thomas, for the amazing job you have been doing. Grettings from Chile.!!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@galenbrubaker56039 ай бұрын
This video was really thought provoking and helpful. Thank you so much Thomas!
@herveorus74329 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot Thomas for sharing tips ! I will revisit my scores to align when needed !
@enriquesanchez20019 ай бұрын
Thank you, Thomas ♥
@gabidroege49679 ай бұрын
Great to see your health is getting better😊 Excellent video, love all the helpful examples!
@Justus_Berger9 ай бұрын
Great video! Very much looking forward to the two follow up videos. 😊
@doublesharp43257 ай бұрын
What do you think of the flute writing in Chopin's First Piano Concerto? The flute lines in b.296-298 and 424-429 of the first movement seem hard to project in practice over the orchestra - do you think it's a miscalculation by Chopin, or would it have worked better on the instruments of his time?
@dgmullin19 ай бұрын
Ending excerpt for flute, harp and cough. 😆 Great video though, thanks for this!
@OrchestrationOnline9 ай бұрын
...and orchestra. It's the Menetto from one of Bizet's L'Arlesienne suites - as the opening was from Carmen. Both examples of first-rate solo flute settings.
@mal2ksc16 күн бұрын
When I write for flutes _as supporting harmony_ I tend to imagine them an octave lower than they actually are, and this aligns pretty well with how well they're going to sit in the texture. As an extreme example, if I'm writing a salsa arrangement and the "horn section" is a flute, a trumpet, and a trombone, I let the trumpet still lead, and the flute gets what amounts to the second trumpet or sax part, but played an octave higher so it can actually be heard. Even though it's the highest pitched instrument in the stack, I don't consider it the "lead". Then I make sure there are the usual clichés of charanga flute in there somewhere or what's the point of using the instrument?
@josiahtobas91729 ай бұрын
Lovely, idea and break through making ❤
@FlorianPi9 ай бұрын
Great video! Thanks a lot!
@SteVanPvt9 ай бұрын
Check out the filmscore main theme to DEATH AND THE MAIDEN by Woijchec Kilar. Alto Flute at its best
@wigwagstudios24749 ай бұрын
11:23 11:35 YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
@martinsaroch35122 ай бұрын
Brilliant video! There is only one thing I am missing. What about doubling (or tripling) flute in the lowest register. Is it even useful to do it? Does it helps anyhow?
@cdsteig9 ай бұрын
Would you consider an addendum video balancing flutes and soprano/alto saxophones, as orchestrating for wind orchestra settings is a topic I don't think is well mastered by band composers?
@NidusFormicarum9 ай бұрын
So how careful do I need to be in a chamber musical setting? I mean, each instrument should be easier audible. But I have an allegro for piano, flute and basson and sometimes the flute is in its middle or even low register below the right hand in the piano. But I mean, the dyamics are easy to balance on a piano and the tone fades away after you have stricken a string which might compensate a little bit. The contrast in tone quality creates variety and may help making the individual lines more distinct. (Also, the basson is often in a high register, but again it should be easier when there are only three instuments. I love the singing quality of the tenor register, but maybe I have overused this feature.) I have a very soft and calm passage in a largo for the brass section in a (large) wind band, but I want the upper line end on the third of the chord (G sharp), but I still wanted the upper B ablove to be there. If I use a brass instrument that upper voice will sound to much and I want a heavy weight on the upper voice in the brass so I put a flute softly on the B (below middle C) instead. I hope that should work. The entire point is that I want it to sound as if the B is almost played below even if it technically isn't so it should be much weaker than the rest of the voices. (8 voices) The passage is played pianissimo. Maybe upwards arpeggios can be suitable for the flute from its lowest register taking advantage of its agility and the fact that fast moving notes are generally more aubile in any register. I have such a passage, dubbled by clarinets. It is a gradual crescendo which also fits the flute. The disadvantage is perhaps that the lowest notes are not balanced with the clarinets, but weak, but it might work fine anyway taking everything into consideration.
@OrchestrationOnline9 ай бұрын
The answer: score-read, score-read, score-read! There are many fine wind quintets you can download for free at imslp dot org and read along to performances here on KZbin. Quintet players will balance so that the flute is more audible; but at louder dynamics, the first octave will always be at a disadvantage.
@NidusFormicarum9 ай бұрын
@@OrchestrationOnline Thanks for your reply! Downloading is great, but I really love having real paper scores in my hand, but nowdays you usually have to order them online. I have bought scores in a bookstore in Hamburg (there are none here in Sweden anymore selling) and I know there is one in Berlin as well, but it is rare nowdays. I wonder how the case is in other parts of the world like where you are in New Zealand for instance?! It's just not the same feeling to order online as going to a real bookstore.
@mal2ksc16 күн бұрын
Bear in mind that this will differ also by the specific instruments used, but a _modern_ concert flute can keep up with just about all the other woodwinds except for saxophones, once you get out of that lowest octave. However, that modern sound may not be what you're going for, and an instrument that sounds "rounder" is also going to get lost in the mix more.
@tomaswestholm49939 ай бұрын
In the case of the dissapearing flute. Is it possible to mark this effect on the part of the flutist? For example could you use mezza voce to convey to not play with a "full" sound.
@MrInitialMan9 ай бұрын
It is also unwise to bury a garklein recorder. Someone might dig it up again. :-D
@DerpDerp3001_plays9 ай бұрын
It's far easier to bury a clarinet than a flute. Most of the time, I can well darn hear the flute.
@sebastian-benedictflore2 ай бұрын
Whilst I'm inclined to agree, I think the tone of the flute is far purer and so the character of the clarinet tends to come out far better
@mal2ksc16 күн бұрын
B♭ clarinet, yes. But the little eefer cuts through more than any flute in the same range.