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🛑STOP🛑 Buying BAD PSUs! Best Power Supply for PC 2023

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@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 10 ай бұрын
▶Sponsor: Edit PDF with UPDF, Now 61% Discount: bit.ly/46P6hUW *Note: be quiet! 12M currently listed as "speculative" on PSU Cultist List was fully reviewed in October and appears to confirm A tier rating* What are you building? What PSU are you looking at? Tell your story in a new comment below!
@graysun1929
@graysun1929 10 ай бұрын
I’m kinda with the guy above me 7800x3d and 4090 or 7900xtx I have a msi mpg a850gf do you think I could get away with keeping the psu without undervolting and should I undervolt (I know I’m fine with the 7900xtx but I’m concerned with the 4090 still making up my mine there).
@samxware
@samxware 10 ай бұрын
The cultist page is not loading :c
@ge69rh
@ge69rh 10 ай бұрын
I'm working on an AM5 Snow build with a Ryzen 5 7600, Sapphire Pure 7800XT, ASRock B650M Pro RS WiFi R, 32GB (16x2) Teamgroup T-Force Delta Alpha R 6000Mcycles at 38CL
@kelley09162
@kelley09162 10 ай бұрын
@@-ixNay- if in the US go with the MSI X670E Tomahawk. It was 300 now it's only 260.
@kelley09162
@kelley09162 10 ай бұрын
@@graysun1929 you're fine with if you go 7900XTX, but if you go 4090 you'd want a higher watt one.
@nandospc
@nandospc 10 ай бұрын
That's the way to educate people about hardware. You show knowledge, articles, explaining the core of the matter and then linking practical examples with real products. As always, great video Jason. Keep it up! A side note: I guess I will get the Focus GX 850 or the XPG Core Reactor 850 as next PSU for my new build. I'm so excited to get my hands on it lol
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 10 ай бұрын
Thank you! Really appreciate that
@westerwald78
@westerwald78 10 ай бұрын
That Gamers Nexus Deep Dive Video about 80+ is awesome. Most inexperienced don't know this. Also the PSU-Cultist-List is pretty great. It shows greatness that you point to others who have dealt with such topics wonderfully and can be a great help to many beginners. That's one reason why I enjoy watching your channel after 30 years of building my own computers. Here I am always made aware of things that are obvious to me but a big mystery to beginners. Keep up the good work!
@Karldin83
@Karldin83 10 ай бұрын
Was it Aris that came up with the new "80+" rating system? Corsair has adopted it on their website at least
@xavierroyer5044
@xavierroyer5044 10 ай бұрын
He's quickly taking away my views from LTT.
@sammiller6631
@sammiller6631 10 ай бұрын
@@Karldin83 Aris does the Cybenetics PSU test ratings for both power and sound.
@jamesm568
@jamesm568 10 ай бұрын
In reality the average person can walk into a Best Buy and walk out with a decent power supply with minimum issues.
@CaptainScorpio24
@CaptainScorpio24 7 ай бұрын
link pls
@jerrycurls88
@jerrycurls88 10 ай бұрын
I've been building pc's for over 30 years. My advice for anyone new to it - never cheap out on a PSU. Buy a bit more than you think you'll need and you will not regret it. Luckily these days there are so many quality PSU's for reasonable prices.
@aaronmcneal1698
@aaronmcneal1698 10 ай бұрын
Best advice you could possibly give someone.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 10 ай бұрын
Yes, there's lots of good deals! Thanks for sharing the advice and tuning in, too!
@Hezquick
@Hezquick 10 ай бұрын
fuck. I bought a used $20 psu 😂
@bengonzales1182
@bengonzales1182 9 ай бұрын
Seasonic is my favorite, 12 year warranty on their "Prime" units.
@jerrycurls88
@jerrycurls88 9 ай бұрын
@@bengonzales1182 yup, love seasonic PSU's. i have a 850w unit on my main rig now. my old pc is like 11 years old with a seasonic and never had a single power issue. still using as a file server and it's been the most stable pc ive ever built.
@StefanEtienneTheVerrgeRep
@StefanEtienneTheVerrgeRep 9 ай бұрын
the human eye can't even see more than 240 watts
@boboboy8189
@boboboy8189 8 ай бұрын
Is this meme or something? Because wattage is electric
@thelionman97
@thelionman97 5 ай бұрын
​@@boboboy8189 wow you are a genius
@VitFury
@VitFury 5 ай бұрын
😂😂
@PranjalC301
@PranjalC301 5 ай бұрын
@@thelionman97 his genius scares me
@PhillBogart
@PhillBogart 3 ай бұрын
"No one should ever need more than 640 Kilowatts." - Bill Gates Ok, I'm obviously kidding. He actually never said that - nor the false quote I got the idea from about 640KB of RAM, either.
@miguelfg93
@miguelfg93 10 ай бұрын
Lol I was watching your 2022 PSU video yesterday and you come up with this today.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 10 ай бұрын
haha! It was time (:
@MSCardinal
@MSCardinal 10 ай бұрын
Bruh, i also watched his 2022 PSU video yesterday xD
@gizmo104drives7
@gizmo104drives7 10 ай бұрын
Same!
@Ezyx0209
@Ezyx0209 10 ай бұрын
Same bro i spent the night searching a psu for my msi 2080ti gaming x trio
@elyb1494
@elyb1494 10 ай бұрын
Same here lmao
@praetorxyn
@praetorxyn 9 ай бұрын
I didn't know about this list, so thanks for pointing me at it. Back in 2019 when I built my PC, I went with an EVGA SuperNOVA 1200 P2, which is still in A-tier on there. I actually had a scare with it, as my computer died last April, and just wouldn't boot. My friend brought his PSU over for me to test with it, and while his PSU only had two PCIe connectors and not 3, things spun up fine other than that, so we thought the PSU had died. So I RMAd my PSU to EVGA, and ordered one of the be quiet! ones as a replacement, thinking then I'd have the RMAd EVGA as a backup. Super nice unit, I did not like some of the pinouts on it, but the individually sleeved cables were nice. Either way, it wouldn't boot with that PSU either! I got to experimenting and figured out what had actually died was the third PCIe power connector on my Strix 3080. If it was plugged in, it wouldn't boot. Without it plugged in, it would, but it wouldn't POST as the GPU wasn't fully powered. So it turned out both PSUs were using overcurrent protection to keep the faulty GPU from breaking anything else. So I sent back the be quiet! unit to Amazon for a refund, RMAd my GPU to ASUS, and when I got a replacement PSU from EVGA, everything booted fine and has been going strong ever since. This was my second ever hardware failure, and oddly enough it was the GPU both times. The first was an ATI X1300, which died because I was a lazy college student and dust clogged up the fan until it overheated and died.
@beerwatts3994
@beerwatts3994 5 ай бұрын
Same happened to me with the same power supply.
@matyeus3142
@matyeus3142 9 ай бұрын
For PSUs I usually went with x 1.33 instead of x 1.5. This is because most PSUs from their instruction manual seem to most efficiently deliver power at about 75% of their full load. But last time I build was 5 years ago.
@Wolffy68
@Wolffy68 9 ай бұрын
Just commenting to thank you for how simply and clearly you explain things. I really enjoy learning the *why* behind the parts I’m researching and you nail it every single video
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 9 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for the feedback! That’s great to know. So glad it’s helpful
@Venlorz
@Venlorz 5 ай бұрын
I like how Jason still refer or provide other sources of other YT Videos. No heavy competition and just provide education for building PC. Thank you!
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 5 ай бұрын
You're very welcome! Gotta help the PC-building community all around :)
@MultiSciGeek
@MultiSciGeek 10 ай бұрын
This is simply amazing! So many tips and information, I felt like I was bombarded with knowledge. Like you get so many videos talking about CPUs and GPUs, but never the finer details like cables, which could be a huge issue if ignored.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 10 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@cr90553
@cr90553 10 ай бұрын
Awesome timing on this video. I've been working on a new computer for a bit now and the only thing I had left was a PSU and my GPU. I wouldn't have given the Super Flower unit a second look until your recommendation and I'm so glad I caught it on sale!
@Jwalker76
@Jwalker76 10 ай бұрын
Super flower are a experienced PSU manufacturer. Most companies don't make their own PSUs they buy them from a manufacturer like super flower then rebrand it as their own product.
@aaronmcneal1698
@aaronmcneal1698 10 ай бұрын
Super Flower is an amazing PSU
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 10 ай бұрын
Well that worked out well! Happy to hear it, thanks for watching!
@-darkangelic-
@-darkangelic- 10 ай бұрын
Best thing about that Lian Li SFX PSU is that even though it’s not ATX 3.0, it comes with a 12VHPWR connector adapter.
@jamesm568
@jamesm568 10 ай бұрын
I don't want to use an adapter as I want the actual cable and connections.
@niemoikein4330
@niemoikein4330 8 ай бұрын
I can’t stand the stupid name. Lian-Li, come on.
@TurboFrieza
@TurboFrieza 6 ай бұрын
@@niemoikein4330 cry about it 😂
@PatientXero607
@PatientXero607 2 ай бұрын
@@niemoikein4330 It's not Lian-Li nomenclature, it's NVIDIA's. Every PSU vendor uses it with their ATX 3.0 power supply offerings.
@MSCardinal
@MSCardinal 10 ай бұрын
Yesterday I decided on the Seasonic FOCUS GX-750 for my build. Glad to see my choice being also one of your recommendations :)
@tryfergoodra552
@tryfergoodra552 10 ай бұрын
How is it so far? and what gpu u have bud
@thenext9537
@thenext9537 10 ай бұрын
I have a Sama 850w PSU and SAMA case. The Sama psu is fully modular, and so far works great. It's 80 plat rated (oops) but we will see. It's running a 5700x and a 3080 for a budget build I did for someone. I had no idea about the psu cultist, they go nuts over there. Next PSU on my personal and others will be to consult that list!
@DavidRegaL-lw5xz
@DavidRegaL-lw5xz 9 ай бұрын
The problem I have with the cultist rankings and videos like this is they don't tell you enough in details. For example I want nothing more than the best 850w or 750w and nothing higher but all the A tier seem to be 1000 above, I get it that they're supposed to be more expensive hence better but what if I want the best of the lower wattage, nowhere to know that I guess
@VYM
@VYM 8 ай бұрын
RTX3080 Max power consumption is 350 watts, 5700x is 144 watts. So you need 550 watts PSU. How the heck you bought 850 watts PSU?! 350+144=850? Jesus...
@Chebornek
@Chebornek 9 ай бұрын
I've been a SeaSonic devotee since 2000 (when I could first find them locally available). They are the manufacturer for many brand names who just slap a sticker on their PSUs and hand out the warranties on these well designed and manufactured power supplies.
@Serandi1987
@Serandi1987 7 ай бұрын
The best of the best PSUs of the whole world! 👍🏼✅
@angrydlc
@angrydlc 6 ай бұрын
Had 3 of them, one doa other two coil whine , fuck seasonic
@Shadowangel09
@Shadowangel09 10 ай бұрын
Got the Rm1000X Shift. Absolutely love it and it's A tier rated with a gold name on the cultist tier list. Just gotta make sure you have a compatible case
@o0Silverwolf0o
@o0Silverwolf0o 10 ай бұрын
Got that one as well before knowing about the cultist list. Was very happy to see it was A tier. And yes, making sure the case is compatible is important. I had to mount it upside down until I got a new case with the full cutout for cable passthrough.
@picanha694
@picanha694 Ай бұрын
Is it noisy?
@jamesc6112
@jamesc6112 10 ай бұрын
Really happy I found you thank you so much for your hardwork. Always hated bias seller's but your builds focus so much on price vs what you get and someone who works in the server industry only making 30k a year thank you so much!. I am subscribed for life!!!!
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 10 ай бұрын
So glad its helpful and thank you for the sub!
@Trisstan20
@Trisstan20 10 ай бұрын
sometimes you can get A tier PSU and it will be also very budgety price option... here in EU BitFenix A rated units are often sold at very good prices, same goes for ADATA/XPG (ADATA XPG CORE REACTOR 850W is beast)
@Thetechgeek2100
@Thetechgeek2100 10 ай бұрын
I just bought the "be quiet!" Pure Power 1200W ATX 3.0 PSU for my build two days ago. It'll be rocking a Gigabyte 4090 (that I'm about to leave and go pick up) and a i7-14700k on an MSI 7Z90 mobo. It may be overkill, but I think I made a good choice with my PSU! Like someone else just mentioned in another comment, I was recently just watching your 2022 PSU video on top of ALL your other videos and I just want to say THANK YOU for providing me/us with the best crash courses on everything related to building PCs! Seriously, your video formats are absolutely perfect and you are very well articulated. I can't recommend any other channel for people to first go to if they have PC questions. Thanks again!
@furieux6742
@furieux6742 10 ай бұрын
1200w for games? LOOL 750w its enought on this spec with good power supply. and good power consumption. 1200w its waste power consumption than 750/850w when usage only 5%/10% wattage
@auntiepha8343
@auntiepha8343 10 ай бұрын
13:32 Peter Griffin is going to have a real problem with you recomnending a MEG PSU.... 😀
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! Peter Griffin: Who is Meg? :D
@cokeaddict1663
@cokeaddict1663 10 ай бұрын
Corsair psu’s for the win. My 2007 HX620W is still in use today. Hasn’t skipped a beat. Now I’m running a Corsair mx1000w in my new build
@nate__6871
@nate__6871 6 ай бұрын
I have a RM1000e right now and has atrocious coil whine when not running games and just on chrome/youtube. How is the mx1000 unit in that aspect with coil whine?
@ffarewell
@ffarewell 10 ай бұрын
Hey Jason, regarding the SFX power supplies its worth noting that a lot of the ones you recommended are SFX-L and not SFX like the SF850L (L denoting that the power supply is slightly larger and therefore may not fit in certain cases, not the generation of PSU as an SF850 never existed unfortunately!)
@iqcool
@iqcool 10 ай бұрын
Reminds me of those huge E-ATX motherbaords; if you miss that E prefix, you won't fit that big, expensive part into your case
@ffarewell
@ffarewell 10 ай бұрын
@@_M.... there are! non-L PSU's are still essential in many sff builds, such as corsair's SF600 and SF750, as well as some offerings from Lian-Li, Silverstone, and Cooler Master
@richardbixler
@richardbixler 7 ай бұрын
One really important aspect I recently discovered is cable compatibility. Only a handful of really popular PSU’s have good aftermarket options for cables. I unfortunately have a really nice PSU that has the several meters of bulky stiff cables about a dozen pigtails I don’t need. Cable management was nearly impossible.
@dimagg2703
@dimagg2703 10 ай бұрын
I got the Thermaltake Toughpower PF3 1050W (80 plus platinum) for 58€!!!! There was an amazon price error and managed to grab it. It costs 200€+ atm here in europe. Using it rn for my new build that i got a month ago.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 10 ай бұрын
Nice!
@bigmacntings7451
@bigmacntings7451 10 ай бұрын
yeah i got fractal design ion 2+ platinum £60( half price) too good to miss. No regrets there it's a fantastic unit.
@bigmacntings7451
@bigmacntings7451 10 ай бұрын
definitely a saving on power bills too. Running a rtx3070+ R7 3800x but did have an overkill PSU (thermaltake toughpower 750w 80+w.... changed to fractal 560w 80P+ and it shaves about 10% off the bill every month..some efficiency but some also better tuned on the power curve....setup should be about 300w base load...400w surge!) makes a big differece when in heavy use.
@ASIAHORSE_Global
@ASIAHORSE_Global 9 ай бұрын
Extremely detailed guide! It's a pleasure to see you mention us; truly an honor.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 9 ай бұрын
Thank you very much! Happy to :) Thanks for tuning in.
@Jason-ol1ty
@Jason-ol1ty 10 ай бұрын
I have had a few PSU die on me, but the one that is going the longest for me is the one that is highest on the tier list of my owned units, my old reliable EVGA Supernova from like 8ish years ago. And while I expect all PSU to eventually die, I prefer them not to take out the rest of my rig when they do, and at least last long enough in the system until the cpu/mobo becomes obsolete. So the first video I watched that sourced the tier list is very helpful, and one component I will always buy with proven ratings.
@eracer1111
@eracer1111 10 ай бұрын
I did a lot of research before building my gaming (MSFS) rig two years ago, and decided on the EVGA 850 G6 Supernova. It's been a solid PSU. But as I've added components and upgraded others I've found that I've been seeing power draws over 720W at full load. So I just swapped in a new EVGA 1000 G7 to give the system a little more headroom. I'm convinced that many simmer's instability problems are due to 'cheaping out' on their PSU. Videos like this are very important, as they help guide folks as they design their systems.
@zymxz
@zymxz 9 ай бұрын
@@eracer1111would you say that the G7 is worth getting? I’m making a new build and debating on a few power supplies and that is one of them.
@alfredoespinoza6541
@alfredoespinoza6541 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for your videos I was able to build my first PC 3 days ago and I'm loving it. Greetings from Bolivia
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 10 ай бұрын
That's great, congrats on your first build!! And saludos from the States!
@herbertbarron4068
@herbertbarron4068 10 ай бұрын
Love the content Jason!!! Keep up the great work!!!!
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 10 ай бұрын
Thank you! Hope you enjoy!
@jeremyniels
@jeremyniels 19 күн бұрын
By far the most knowledgeable person in the IT space, and you actually do your research to stay on top of whats actual. I do wish to comment on the be quiet 13 series. I have actually read quite some negative reviews on this unit..turns out The way the fan is designed it makes an annoying buzzing noise on low rpm and is quiet on higher rpms. Kind of ironic for a brand called be quiet that focuses on noise profile. I dont know if they fixed it but i would not buy that unit for its noise profile, despite being A Tier rated. 😅
@faiqsyahbani
@faiqsyahbani 10 ай бұрын
Super Flower Leadex VII should be the #1 reccomendation overall. Its the cheapest and reasonable price for a Tier A PSU. Just bought the 850W version last week, cant find anything better than Leadex VII in terms of value tbh.
@SpoonHurler
@SpoonHurler 10 ай бұрын
I agree. The 750w has been around 75 usd and it's a great value at that price. Has a great warranty and Super Flower isn't getting out of the psu space unless the whole company sinks unlike companies that dabble in everything, so you will more than likely have actual support fir the life of the psu.
@koolio_
@koolio_ 3 ай бұрын
i actually got nervous seeing your video in my feed because its so detailed, im currently building a new pc piece by piece and i have accidentally selected one of the psu you reccomended, great video alot of information especially for people who aren't aware of the differences. legend
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 3 ай бұрын
Glad to help!
@sharkey9
@sharkey9 10 ай бұрын
Great video and great advice Jason. Can't stress enough how useless and actually misleading 80+ is. In fact, 80+ labels can actually be bought. If your "newly released" PSU is based on an already certified OEM model, you just pay a fee and get that same label without testing. Even if it has cheaper components (in case you told your OEM to save costs). So there are loads of "gold" off-brand units out there that wouldn't even meet 80+ white standards if tested. There is Cybenetics though, they actually test for everything. Their certification is trustworthy.
@bigmacntings7451
@bigmacntings7451 10 ай бұрын
yeah lots of random PSU makers doing "gold" rated stuff that really isn't. if you have the money to spend on high end components,then absolutely get a good quality PSU to match. never had any issues with bequiet/EVGA/Corsair/Fractal design or seasonic.All of them very solid and will last you for ever. 80 plus gold (and over) really is the real deal on these.you WILL get what it says on the box. For a component that is used every bit as much as the cpu,it is totally worth paying the little bit extra for lower noise levels and better efficiency. as for power specs, go by theoretical power usage, and then multiply by 1.3. (rule of thirds is good 2/3 as base load and 1/3 as insurance), but is a bit hit and miss.you really want peak load to be hitting about 60-70 % of PSU rating..it will never get anywhere near that in real life, but you don't want to be having system idle at below 10% of PSU either as you're wasting energy. sweet zone for all work is 20-70%
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 10 ай бұрын
Thanks so much, glad you appreciated it! Happy to spread some learning :)
@jaredcrawford8370
@jaredcrawford8370 10 ай бұрын
I have no reason to be watching this video as I am not currently in the market for a PSU, but I love your videos Jason and always learn something, so here I am. I picked up the MSI MPG A850G PCIE5 850 Watt 80 Plus Gold ATX Fully Modular PSU back in August.
@Nalianna
@Nalianna 10 ай бұрын
As well as educational, I find Jason's videos entertaining.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 10 ай бұрын
Glad you're enjoying it anyway! Thanks for watching.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 10 ай бұрын
Love to hear it, thanks! Happy you're enjoying all the content.
@infinity2z3r07
@infinity2z3r07 10 ай бұрын
The worst is when you spend extra for a modular psu and it STILL has daisy chained pcie cables!
@ItsDazoe
@ItsDazoe 7 ай бұрын
I’m new to building pc and this guy is explaining everything in details🙏🏿 Protect him at all cost!!!
@darkfeeels
@darkfeeels 6 ай бұрын
You are the best person for newbies like me. I wanted to build a PC after 12 years and got so lost. Binged watched so many of your videos and now I feel like I am educated enough to make a decision. Thank you so much for your contribution to the community 🙏🏻
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 6 ай бұрын
This is great to hear! Thanks so much for watching, you got this! So happy to help. Make sure to check out our How To Build a PC video when you're ready :)
@Ro7770
@Ro7770 10 ай бұрын
Keep it up jason!!! Can you do a video showcasing PC builds for creator use?
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 10 ай бұрын
So glad you are enjoying! Check out our Best GPU/CPU Combo 2023 video, we go over the adjustments I would make for production/creator pcs!
@eracer1111
@eracer1111 10 ай бұрын
Jason...thank you for sharing the important information about how power cable pinouts differ from one PSU to the next. I just learned about this on the MSFS forum, so when I upgraded from an EVGA 850 G6 to an EVGA 1000 G7, I emailed EVGA before swapping them out. The response was that the pinouts were the same for everything but the SATA cables, and they recommended that I use the ones that came with the G7. I wonder how many people have installed a new modular PSU, used all their existing cables, and damaged their computer. I would have done that without thinking about it. Who wants to reroute mainboard and VGA cables? Great video.
@eliminationgame
@eliminationgame 10 ай бұрын
I just bought a white Phanteks AMP V2 for my 7900xtx build and got it installed yesterday thanks to a previous video of yours 💪
@MultiSciGeek
@MultiSciGeek 10 ай бұрын
Hi, can you make a video on RGB lighting and fan speeds? What motherboards support, with controller or without, how to daisy chain, software side control etc.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 10 ай бұрын
We have thought about doing that kind of video yes, but to be honest its so complicated to sum up I haven't had time to tackle it yet. Perhaps after the Black Friday rush (:
@DragunnitumGaming
@DragunnitumGaming 10 ай бұрын
ok, that UPDF sponsor is actually cool!! i have been looking for something like that!! edit: it's 45$?!!! and has a subscription? naaaaaah fam 😭😭😭😭
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 10 ай бұрын
It was pretty cool when I was checking it out!
@CheesyPotat0
@CheesyPotat0 4 ай бұрын
I recently got a SeaSonic PRIME 1300W Platinum and it started killing every motherboard it was connected to. It totally killed my new Z790 and messed up my old Z370. I now have to emergency buy a laptop just to make sure I have a working PC and have to replace the motherboard in my only two month old very high end build. My old PC isn't worth fixing and is now junk. My very old Corsair CX is around 12 years old and still works perfectly fine. So much for buying high end expensive power supplies. I need to stick to Corsair for PSUs. I have bad luck with SeaSonic.🙄
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 4 ай бұрын
Yikes!
@anorax001
@anorax001 9 ай бұрын
Just an additional important note regarding power transients. Not all PSU's - even good or premium PSU's - can handle the power transients you mentioned in your video. I have a three year old Seasonic Prime Titanium TX-1000 (it is a relabelled SSR-1000TR) and it cannot handle the power transients caused by some of my older games when there are wild swings in GPU load due to loading inventory screens, etc. on my RTX3090. The symptom is black screen and 100% fans on the GPU and sometimes the PSU will go into OCP mode and reset the PC. My friend with the exact same Seasonic model had the exact same issues on his PC using an RTX3080Ti. I feel a bit shitty as I was the person who recommended Seasonic to him. To resolve the issue I had to upgrade to a new BeQuiet Straight Power 12 1200W power supply which is ATX 3.0 complaint. Apparently Seasonic was sending out 24-pin replacement motherboard power cables to resolve the issue on their older Seasonic models for free but I don't know if this option is still available.
@X320riginal
@X320riginal 7 ай бұрын
I bought the Straight Power 12 1000 Watts two days ago 😊
@DrDemolition
@DrDemolition 8 ай бұрын
i thought jason just did build guides while explaining some basic stuff, but he also recommends we check out other channels like gamers nexus for indepth explanations?! dude is an absolute GOAT
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 8 ай бұрын
So glad its helpful! And for sure people should also check out the other fabulous channels out there like Gamers Nexus and Hardware Unboxed. (:
@NebulaMK
@NebulaMK 7 ай бұрын
This is someone that has a lot of experience that doesn't pit fall into being an elitist and it's really great to see. I really appreciate the non-bias, here's information and do what you will with it mindset. This video was really informative. I haven't had to purchase a PSU or really any pc parts since coffee lake and this video reminded me about things I forgot to think about. I really appreciate this content and I really hope you're around 5-7 years later when I want to upgrade again.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 7 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for the feedback! So glad you're enjoying the content.
@jamesyoung151
@jamesyoung151 10 ай бұрын
I bough tthe the Corsair HXi 1200w PSU (had a rebate which came out cheaper than the 1000w version). Very quiet. I don't think I've ever heard the power supply once, even while rendering video. My fridge is louder.
@SmockMonkey1
@SmockMonkey1 10 ай бұрын
Love your content! Your wife does an exceptional job with the editing!
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 10 ай бұрын
Love to hear it, thank you so much for tuning in! Teamwork makes the dream work :D
@jeffreygleaves2931
@jeffreygleaves2931 6 ай бұрын
You forgot to mention which units don't come with cables so they can charge you $60 more.
@caroline_sm
@caroline_sm 10 ай бұрын
i was watching your 2022 psu video literally last night. ur timing is incredible
@morgan3392
@morgan3392 10 ай бұрын
I'm feeling pretty good. I just got the rm1000e a couple weeks ago, and now here it is as the thumbnail. Very happy with it.
@Treestorm
@Treestorm 10 күн бұрын
Still using a 2017 Corsair CM750 lolol. It's old but it serves me well. I got a spare new one sealed, when amazon send me back in 2017 when I ordered my current one for free. Gonna use it in my upgrade later this year. Solid power supply.
@NMS2005
@NMS2005 6 ай бұрын
I once bought Seasonic Gold and after 1 year it was shutting down my computer randomly. The warranty was useless because they test the power supply synthetically and not in a real PC. I put back my old and cheap Super Flower and the computer works fine to this day.
@xxlee1019
@xxlee1019 3 ай бұрын
Very informative video and I got a slight dopamine hit when I saw my PSU choice in A list section.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 3 ай бұрын
Great to hear!
@Snafu2346
@Snafu2346 9 ай бұрын
watching these videos are going to make me self conscious about the parts I picked. I got an EVGA Supernova GT 1000 for my current build but plan on picking up the 4090 or successor in the future, like an 5090 or whatever it'll be called. It was $138 during black friday and it seemed like a good deal. I bough it purely based on review ratings on the site (I know that is hit or miss) and using evga in the past. Though I've only really used CM, EVGA, Antec, in the past. I though to getting a seasonic this time around or a phantek amp. But the seasonics were around 250-300 price, and I couldn't find the phantek amp white in stock. this was for a white build and I ended up just buying white cable mods. Its not now that I realized I could have just spent a bit more on some other white psu's that I'm not familiar with and it would have been roughly the same since the psu + cable mod extensions made it roughly the same price as these higher end white units. I'm hoping the EVGA GT1000 supernova is decent.
@vishalvan3317
@vishalvan3317 9 ай бұрын
I am building a new pc for entry level 3d animations and video editing and gaming as well I am thinking to build with 13500 + RTX 3060(12GB) I wanna future proof as much components as i can because i will upgrade my setup after 3 years with RTX 4070 or 4080 (not water cooler though just normal 2 Fan GPU) may be so should i buy regular 750W 80+ gold psu or an ATX 3.0 psu right now
@dystopia-usa
@dystopia-usa 9 ай бұрын
I used a SEASONIC PRIME Ultra 650W 80+ Platinum 140mm Compact ATX (SSR-650PD2) in my last PC build (late 2019, 1080p AMD 3700X system, 32gb, GTX1660Ti, Intel Enterprise SSD) & it is still going strong today 4 years later. The PC is turned on & running for 4-12 hours per day, pretty much every day.
@ReVNahual66
@ReVNahual66 10 ай бұрын
Glad i picked up the RM1000X shift series for my new MB
@CocoDave37
@CocoDave37 9 ай бұрын
Came back to watch this a second time before I made a decision. I'm in Spain and just bought a Seasonic Focus GX 850w for 105 euros and comes with a 10 year warranty. Thank you for the great insight!
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 9 ай бұрын
So happy we could help! Thanks so much for watching! :)
@PhillBogart
@PhillBogart 3 ай бұрын
I'm living life on the edge. I have an upgraded build that includes a Ryzen 7 7800X3D, XFX RX 6800 GPU, 2 sticks of Kingston Fury 8GB DDR5 RAM, a 512GB WD Black M.2 NVMe Win 11 boot drive, a secondary 2TB Samsung 970 EVO Plus NVMe, an older 6TB WD 5400 RPM backup drive, a "vintage" LG HD-DVD and BD-ROM combo drive that are all being powered by a 15-year-old Corsair HX750W Pro Series PSU!!! I also have an equally ancient Rosewill 1Kw PSU from an older build that is unused but was still going strong before dismantling THAT system. I'm really getting the impression that I should upgrade to a new PSU - either sticking with a new Corsair of the same rating or trying a BeQuiet unit. EDIT: If anyone is interested, Newegg has a PSU calculator where you select either your current components (minus any fans) or ones you might be considering for a new build and it will give you the cumulative wattage that they'll all need.
@AR-bj5et
@AR-bj5et 10 ай бұрын
Fractal ion 2s are crazy good too. Fractal's really killing it lately whatever they're putting out.
@AQAVAR
@AQAVAR 6 ай бұрын
Very useful. I have 10 year old Corsair HX 750 and works well. Question is will it still support todays high end cards like RX 7900 XT(X) or similar?
@blackened144
@blackened144 9 ай бұрын
Im kinda partial to the ThermalTake ToughPower GF1 units from the A Tier. They tend to be the cheapest A Tier units at any given power level when Im ready to buy and have served me very well.
@platyhelminthes2877
@platyhelminthes2877 9 ай бұрын
Got any thoughts on the GF3 1200w? I ordered one for $130 after tax. I had been planning on buying a Super Flower Leadex 7 XG 1000w for roughly $185 after tax, but the price on the GF3 seemed too good to pass up...
@brandonbrandon2893
@brandonbrandon2893 9 ай бұрын
To those this may help, I just recently acquired an EVGA RTX-3080Ti FTW Ultra. It's TDP is said to be 320W. However, at some point EVGA adjusted the VBIOS so that it might actually pull up to 450W. I had no idea when I got it. My existing PSU was a Corsair HX850, which has served me excellently for 2 years. While using GPU-Z to monitor my GPU on a game, I saw it start rising to 420+ W, and BOOM - a shutdown. No parts were harmed, but I was pretty disappointed. Have a Corsair RM1200X Shift arriving today. Looking forward to letting the GPU spread its wings and fly. I've put a custom shroud on the GPU that allows case fans to be used. It's much quieter and has lower temps (5-10C). Will likely pull huge power to OC it.
@al3nmicl
@al3nmicl 8 ай бұрын
Always save a backup of your factory VBIOS. With most newer enthusiast cards this is not such an issue as they have a dual bios switch (you can revert to factory by flicking a physical switch on the GPU). But cards like the old EVGA 30 series don't have this, so if you upgrade the firmware your SOL.
@Arelias95
@Arelias95 8 ай бұрын
Cheers for the video, picking out parts is simple enough for most of them, but choosing a PSU got complicated recently
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 8 ай бұрын
It can be tricky for sure! Glad to help!
@zetsumeinaito
@zetsumeinaito 8 ай бұрын
I have a 20 yr old $100(that'd be $200 today) Roswell modular 80+bronze 80 watt PSU. Damn thing still runs and even still works for a modern mobo with more than the two usual connections. Sometimes you just can't beat over buying on computer parts that aren't dependent on Moore's Law.
@boboboy8189
@boboboy8189 8 ай бұрын
I use cheap cooler Master that not certified with 80%, i use that from November 2010 to September 2019. This is Proof as long as its branded one, Just make sure PC wattage is low and we can use it more than 8 years. The reason why my PSU explode because i forgot to clean up my PC case that full of my cat fur...... My spec back then only use 250 watt. My PSU is 550watt that can produced 400 watt
@ge69rh
@ge69rh 10 ай бұрын
I like the Thermaltake GF1 850 Snow, A tier rated on the PSU Cultist List
@xXturbo86Xx
@xXturbo86Xx 9 ай бұрын
I bought a dirt cheap 650w no brand from a local store. It has been running for 12 years almost non-stop, without issues other than a fan that died this year and i replaced it and it's all good. It has been through a lot of power outages and unstable currents, but never failed and never damaged any of the hardware it powered. Also, do not trust the calculators and the "experts". Calculators and "experts" said that my GPU alone needs 450w and my entire PC at least 650. I bought a power consumption meter and it shows just above 250w at full load. So, don't waste your money on expensive PSUs. But, make sure that even the cheap PSU you're buying, has all the safety features it needs to protect the hardware. That's it. Everything else is just....bling to make you waste money.
@susconyar4815
@susconyar4815 10 ай бұрын
The Corsair SF750 is THE gold standard for ITX builds… I don’t know why you would not mention this
@bigmacntings7451
@bigmacntings7451 10 ай бұрын
the corsairs are excellent sfx supplies for sure, but how much kit are you stuffing in a SFF build? if you are just running IGPU then the SF450 or bequiet 80+B 300's are the place to go.
@mrclean234
@mrclean234 9 ай бұрын
I just ordered the components for my pc. All new parts. Ryzen 5 3600, rx 6600, 16 gb 3200mhz cl16,asus prime b550m a, a550bn c tier psu, deepcool cc360 case. 1tb kingston pcie 4.0 ssd. All for 560 dollars. I could not get this price to performance without you, Pc Builder! My love and respect for you from Romania!
@gnogz2668
@gnogz2668 10 ай бұрын
Hey PC Builder, just wanted to say thank you for making all your Pc building videos. Your videos literally helped me build my first ever Gaming PC that I just finished last week. I knew nothing about building a computer since I’ve only played consoles my whole life and thanks to you I guess I’m part of the PC master race 😂😂 Side note: my siblings say I betrayed them cause I don’t play my PS5 with them online anymore 😂
@kelley09162
@kelley09162 10 ай бұрын
You just have to convince them to build a PC. Haha.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 10 ай бұрын
Love to hear this, congrats on your first build--you did it! It's why we share, cause if you build it, it will run. Yes, bring them over! :D
@X320riginal
@X320riginal 7 ай бұрын
Welcome 😊
@ryanpower1291
@ryanpower1291 5 ай бұрын
Was like "my power supply should be fine" until all thr parts arrived and my old psu didn't have enough 6+2 pins for my new graphics card. But to be fair from what I've read they last about 10 years and it was about that time. I also cheaped out when I bought it way back then
@moisescordero7776
@moisescordero7776 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. I got my PSU from your recommendations. What do you think of the Asus Rog Strix B-650A Gaming Wi-Fi 6E currently at Newegg for $199 for a 7800x3d build with a 7900xt or xtx?
@kelley09162
@kelley09162 10 ай бұрын
Good Motherboard if going for White build but if not I like the B650 Tomahawk more.
@dancaudell6699
@dancaudell6699 10 ай бұрын
This couldn't have come at a better time!! My PSU is starting to go haywire and I just rewatched the 2022 video....When the student is ready, the teacher appears...
@txchristopherreed
@txchristopherreed 10 ай бұрын
My build last Christmas had the Corsair RM1000e (tier A on Cultist) to power a 16 GB RX6800XT card, never had any issues with it at all.
@KrazzeeKane
@KrazzeeKane 7 ай бұрын
I managed to snag a Be Quiet! 1200W Straight Power 12 PSU for only $189.99, so I snapped it up immediately. They seem to be a really good brand, and the PSU itself is by far the quietest I have ever owned. I have yet to hear it lol
@Serandi1987
@Serandi1987 7 ай бұрын
I've just sent back my Seasonic PX 1300 watts Platinum back because of a loud fan turning on Hybrid Mode even at idle and got replaced it by a Seasonic TX 850 watts Titanium and MAN this is so much quieter and more efficient! Using a 4090 undervolted and a 5800X3D uv on -30 I wont draw more than 350-500 watts and most of time just 350-380 watts on average so the 850 watts PSU is just perfect for me! Thank you so much Seasonic! You're just awesome 👍🏼❤
@Kebaben2000
@Kebaben2000 9 ай бұрын
- Sitting on a 750w psu that is 10+ years old -Just upgraded to 7800x3d - Picking parts in Pcpartspicker to see wattage out of curiousity - Multiply and see estimated number, 1000w - Starts to sweat prefusely....
@JosePerez-ns8jz
@JosePerez-ns8jz 10 ай бұрын
Greetings from Texas👋 loving the recent content. I'm building another pc soon and these videos are making my life so much easier😳
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 10 ай бұрын
Hi there, love to hear it! Good luck with your next build :)
@vivisimonvi
@vivisimonvi 9 ай бұрын
Still rocking my two Antec 750 watt PSUs for the last 10+ years in various builds (from a Phenom II 965, FX8350 to i9 CPUs, 970, 1080 and 3080 Nvidia cards, even two Radeon 6970s). I'm sure there's a few of us guilty of recycling PSUs in new bulids. I would definitely get something brand new if the system has more expensive components. I paid $35 and $50 for these PSUs originally.
@X320riginal
@X320riginal 7 ай бұрын
I've replaced my Seasonic PSU two days ago, I also was running it with the Phenom II back then, switched to i7 3720 and later Ryzen 7 😊 Different cases and GPUs as well :) It always stayed with me 🥹 But now it had to go 🥺 It was still working but it was running for 13 years or so. I don't know if I should keep it bring it or bring it in the store for recycling? 🥺
@VYM
@VYM 8 ай бұрын
All my life I was using only Corsair PSUs. And this time I decided to try Thermaltake PSU. It was a huge mistake. I've never ever heard such a noisy, coils whining, fan howling, hissing PSU before. One week of nightmare and I swapped it to Corsair CV. BTW really great, informative and useful video. Everything clear and fair. Thank you.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 8 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed and thanks for sharing!
@walley2637
@walley2637 6 ай бұрын
I am still using a Seasonic 80+ gold 550w psu that i bought in 2010. it was 2x the cost of others at the time but totally worth it!
@mtbarr64
@mtbarr64 7 ай бұрын
I have been building PCs since the CLONE days (81-82) and need to comment on the 80+ rating. THEY ARE MEANINGFUL about the electrical EFFICIENCY of the unit! It is like an SEER rating on Air Conditioners. Higher is BETTER, it means LESS Kwh consumed for the same power supplied. For the SAME INPUT power it tells what percentage of that is converted to USABLE power. Titanium means 90+%. Platinum, 80+%. Gold, 70+%. Silver, 60+%. Bronze, 50+%. Bronze is HALF the power to the computer compared to 90+. So that RATING is important. It is MORE MILES per every gallon or in this case less Kwh consumed for the same pc performance. That saves on the ELECTRIC BILL.
@hansonchen6491
@hansonchen6491 10 ай бұрын
Literally just watched the PSU video from last year. So glad see the update before my black Friday build😊
@AnonymousUser-ww6ns
@AnonymousUser-ww6ns 5 ай бұрын
Here is what I do to decide an appropriate wattage, use a PSU calculator to get estimated wattage. After that I take the estimated wattage and multiply it by 1.5. The reason I do this is in case I want add more things to the pc in the future or upgrade to a powerful GPU. In addition if one overclocks having a little extra wattage helps as well By doing this you ensure you get enough while allowing for futureproofness if I were to decide to add more components to it.
@AnonymousUser-ww6ns
@AnonymousUser-ww6ns 5 ай бұрын
Also a very important rule Never cheap out on the PSU. Use the PSU tier list to guide. Never go below C tier. If possible I would try and get either a B or A tier PSU.
@bayuchandrasukma820
@bayuchandrasukma820 5 ай бұрын
Just wanna say thank you to you for this video. I just had my cheapo PSU (that I bought out of necessity due to my limited budget a year ago) eat up 1 HDD and 2 NVMe SSD. Thankfully the MSI MAG A550BN is available for very cheap and the distributor on my land is also very supportive. Beyond that specific point, the video is also very informative, telling us a real lot of what we need to know about the parts.
@ritvikagarwal3846
@ritvikagarwal3846 8 ай бұрын
did you guys know that when he says subscribe ot the channel at 0:45, the subscribe button acctually changes to rainbow around the edge.
@PatientXero607
@PatientXero607 2 ай бұрын
For 20+ years, the three S's have been the tried and true brands. Super Flower, Seasonic, and Sparkle Power/FSP. You have to go by who built the power supply, not the company it was sold to for re-branding. 10 years ago, Corsair changed from CWT to Seasonic on their TX series power supplies, which was more for QA. When doing the research, use the UL labs tag to determine who made the internals. The RM's from Corsair are made by CWT, which is NOT a top-tier company.
@curtismariani6303
@curtismariani6303 10 ай бұрын
Great video, very comprehensive. PSU pricing in the uk is a little funky, often there is only £5-£10 difference between 750w and 850w units (£5 difference with the Be quiet one you recommend). If the difference is this little then always worth considering the 850w unit if budget allows, as it gives a little extra headroom for future gpu changes.
@ando5053
@ando5053 9 ай бұрын
unfortunately that's the same thinking like 20 years ago, (just take 100W more and you will be save). If it's from the same crappy brand, it makes no difference, besides it will just use more power
@PM-oq6ku
@PM-oq6ku 5 ай бұрын
Hey Jason. First of all. Thank you so much for your content and information. It's worth gold like we use to say in my language. I always pick a be quiet! psu.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 5 ай бұрын
My pleasure! Thank you for watching
@OnokamiSenju
@OnokamiSenju 6 ай бұрын
That's a great deal on the Super Flower Leadex VII XG. $219.99 with a $35 off discount code. I need that right now
@aaronbraun
@aaronbraun 5 ай бұрын
Just found your channel and loving the format and content! The memory episode on DDR4 vs DDR5 fantastic
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 5 ай бұрын
So glad you found us! Glad you're enjoying the content, thanks so much for tuning in.
@SomeOldGamers
@SomeOldGamers 10 ай бұрын
Well done making the most important point right out of the gate! You can engineer a PSU to pass the 80 Platinum rating that dies 10 minutes later. Why waste money on a modular PSU when it is all going to be hidden in that massive and otherwise useless (these days) basement? You can get extensions if you want the custom look. I'd suggest just staying away from current gen Nvidia GPUs. The problems with the connector say they didn't design it correctly. They're trying to shove twice as much current through a much smaller surface area. That can never work out well. The better solution to enhanced power control would be to add a separate data line that plugs into the PCIe 1x slot nobody ever uses because it is blocked by the GPU and retain the proven 2x8pin. The MB can already communicate with the PSU via the 24 pin connector. All you have to do is modulate the PG signal to actually send data. Why design proprietary hardware to do something that can be done in software already, with off the shelf components? The only new thing you need is a smart PSU and that really isn't new. You just put a microcontroller, that already exists, inside your PSU and teach it some new tricks. At the end of the day, all Nvidia is doing is trying to justify the cost of their GPUs with shiny baubles. It is a solution in search of a problem. I'm quite sure I will never buy a 1000W PSU for a gaming PC🤦‍♂🤦‍♂ Nothing worth having a premium PC for these days anyway. You pay all that money and you're still running the latest releases at 50fps🤦‍♂🤦‍♂ If I spend $2k on a GPU, I expect 120fps at 4k ultra, with native rendering. I get more enjoyment from gaming for next to nothing anyway. With my current system, everything I get from here on out is gravy because I already got my money's worth out of it because I didn't spend any more than I had to. I don't get pissed off when my framerate is low because it essentially cost me nothing at this point to get what I get. Current GPU was basically free because I mined on it before I threw it in a gaming rig.
@Mr.Humble623
@Mr.Humble623 7 ай бұрын
I built a PC with a corsair rm1000w psu , tried to power it on and only the Ram lights up. Ended up taking it to PC repair to find out what’s wrong. They said it was a bad psu. Got a replacement psu and same exact thing happened. I don’t understand what’s wrong. Gonna try a lower watt and different brand I think.
@nikyclau3966
@nikyclau3966 10 ай бұрын
Exactly the video what I needed thank you Jason ❤
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 10 ай бұрын
So glad the timing is good!
@GnatTheGnome
@GnatTheGnome 10 ай бұрын
For the power draw estimations, I've found that different sites give vastly different estimates as well. I have the EXACT same system put together in pcpartpicker and in newegg system builder. One lists the power draw at 437W, and the other at 590W. Thats a MASSIVE difference once you factor in the 1.5x estimation.
@_M....
@_M.... 10 ай бұрын
neither of them are accurate, if they're close to accurate it's sheer luck. they literally just add up stated or alleged tdp/power figures given by manufacturers with zero testing or verification done.
@fatidicusaeternus6498
@fatidicusaeternus6498 10 ай бұрын
The Newegg system builder seems to take the cushion into account, because the parts I put into their PSU calculator gives the same answer as their system builder.
@g.waits4gainz205
@g.waits4gainz205 10 ай бұрын
like mannnnn this is too perfect timing! seriously, again, thank you! been great content for the year nad ton s of learning, but PSU and just getting that fact checked was critical before i just buy any corsair or evga psu, but cooooooooool tytytytyty. its the last part of my build i need ot lock in for my am5 system cause im just going all out so thnaks again
@YasserS19
@YasserS19 10 ай бұрын
Perfect timing with this video, I just looked up available PSUs and did not know what to pick!
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 10 ай бұрын
Amazing! Glad you tuned in ;)
@YasserS19
@YasserS19 10 ай бұрын
@@PCBuilderChannel I know this is out of topic but what mobo should I get ? The Gigabyte B550M Aorus Elite at 79 euros or the DS3H which is 10 euros cheaper. Is there any performance or reliability difference ? Thanks!
@Noblyuntruthful
@Noblyuntruthful 7 ай бұрын
just got msi meg 1300W psu. i can finally have another little trinket to look at on my hardware monitor -- output wattage and weekly power consumption
@selgan9968
@selgan9968 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the video "Jason"(who is totally not Saul Goodman hiding from the law), very informative
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel Ай бұрын
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